[OFFICIAL] NXT Aftermath, Review, and Ratings Thread

[Dirty Spamchez]

I mean, will the superstars on NXT be able to compete on the WWE Drafts and other WWE specials? I mean, it's supposed to be a brand for rising stars until they are able to stand on their own. Will the NXT superstars be competing brand vs brand like in WWE Draft shows because SmackDown and Raw stars are already developed stars and can work better than the "rising stars" unless none of the NXT stars win their respective matches.

Will the NXT stars have PPV matches because, again, they are "rising stars" and not everyone would know them and may not be that into them.

Off-topic: What will happen to the ECW Championship? Will it become the NXT Championship?

 

[Schizophrenic]

I think it's time to let ECW rest in peach and be done with it. Now on to "NXT" I dont see the big deal considering it will be alot of FCW guys in place of guys like Christian & Regal. Now because I watch FCW I will watch NXT (hell I will watch any wrestling on TV) and I will enjoy it, but as I stated in a thread in the TNA Section. NO ONE watches a show that shows off people that nobody knows. I enjoy their work but I'm sorry, "Joe Hennig vs Justin Angel" is not going to get people to go, "New WWE Brand! I Must Watch" Sadly most fans nowadays are gonna go, "Who are these two jobbers?" and switch the channel/ Mainly do to ignorance but I digress. They need to have a few guys that are established to be there, even guys like Ryder or Tatsu that still could use some work before moving to RAW or SmackDown but are still "newish" that could be seen as the "Future Superstars". Then again if "NXT" is supposed to be just that then shouldn't half of each roster be there are well. Guys like McIntyre, Morrison, Punk and others are still touted as "The Future Superstars".

 

[Davi323]

"The popularity of developmental leagues of anything is directly proportional to the popularity of the actual product that it is the developmental of."

Isn't Monday Night Raw the highest rated cable TV show every week, and has been consistently for years? I would take that to indicate that Pro Wrestling is quite popular. Besides, I think you are missing a key element. Unless you live in specific areas, there are no "minor league" wrestling events that you can attend. There are hundreds and hundreds of minor league baseball teams that you can attend in person. There are thousands and thousands of high school and collegiate level football games. There are relatively few pro wrestling events.

Or, think of it this way...Despite the saturation of music acts, whether its rock, soul, country, hip hop, whatever, there are still highly successful shows like American Idol. Why? They could just buy the "proven" acts that have recording contracts, and have some polish to their voices. Yet, they watch, because people don't mind seeing young talent blossom. Why should pro wrestling be any different?

 

[TheFOUR]

Now I am for one, a huge pro-young talent utilizer. But NXT coming on 02/23/2010 just doesn't make sense. After all, Christian is ECW Champion. Now where does that leave him? He is not exactly a spring chicken when it comes to new talent. Why couldn't the WWE wait until after WM26 to debut NXT? I mean to me it seems that waiting makes more sense. You get to have WM26 and have one last ECW Championship match at WM26. Christian could lose the title, then the next night on Raw you hold the draft immediately. It has to be the next night so that when Christian gets drafted to Raw or Smackdown! It makes more sense with him having lost the title the night before, then on Tuesday you debut NXT and have Tiffany come out and bring out the NEW Champion, he comes out with the ECW title, she takes it from him and announces the NXT Champion an debuts the new title and the show and champion all in one night. From that moment on you could mold the show into being new and fresh and full of young talent and all the "veteran" talent be drafted off the show. Also to me it seems as if with this new debut of a show NXT might suffer in ratings. I mean at least with ECW you had Tommy Dreamer, with this NXT show, you're pushing the NEXT Generation of WWE Superstars. Will it work out? I am not a fortune teller. BUT, I do think that waiting til after WM26 is the way to go with this new show, and it gives fans of Christian what we want by bringing him home to Raw or Smackdown.

Now this is not a thread that is going to be trashing NXT. But bringing in this show so soon an close to WM26 just seems like its shitting on Christian as a champion. NOW, you have to strip Christian of the title cause he wasn't the NXT Champion, he was ECW Champion, and now there is no more ECW so there is no need for Christian to have the title, so they'll have to start a tournament to crown a NEW Champion. Now I will admit this give the WWE room to "draft" or "trade" Christian to one of the bigger shows and send someone "new" to NXT. But like a lot of times in the past, I for one am sure that the WWE will drop the ball on this one just like they have done with the HBK/Taker storyline. And the Bret "Hitman" Hart return, and the Hart Dynasty and Kofi's main event push, and Swagger, and MVP. And other things that I am not going to go into.

I do however think that at this moment in time, it is a great time to bring up Karavel, and The American Dragon. Throw them in the title tournament and there you have your new NXT show that is based solely on NEW Superstars, no veteran talent around, no veteran champion, no fake ECW name, and most importantly, since they are brought along with the Smackdown taping they can learn from the veterans on that show without having to put any of the veterans over and give up their spotlight.

 

[Decarow]

As most of us know, ECW is becoming NXT in around 3 weeks. That means a total brand make-over. But this is my question:

Will the ECW Championship become the NXT Championship? Will they debunk the ECW title and hold a tournament for the NXT title? What do you think will happen?

 

[Crippler CrossFace]

I think it's more of a name change for the immediate future, but I think they will eventually make a change in who gets to be champion, like the new guys getting a chance to shine.

Personally I would like to see Shelton Benjamin become champion, he has been busting his ass for a long time now and not much to show for it, I mean he's been in a ton of MIB matches but he hasn't won one yet and he consistently puts on good matches, I mean he did beat Sheamus, lets give Sisqo a push for God's sake

 

[Calderownz]

Personally, I think Christian is a solid fit for the NXT champion.

What I assume will happen is that they will turn it into some sort of angle to make it as he has to reearn the gold or that they award it to the winner of a tourney. Personally, I think just transforming the title would be bad as they'd miss out on an opportunity to build a program with a younger wrestler. Test him out.

The best idea would be to strip Christian and have him enter a big tourney and crown the champion at WrestleMania for example. Christian would be in the finals with some unexpected up and comer who beats him. Either good guy or bad guy, you can build a program on CHristian thinking it was wrong and on their feuding over the belt.

 

[JDavis328]

Honestly I think Christian has done all he can in ECW without becoming another Dreamer,Goldust or Regal Aka a vet they use to job with the younger guys to help them get over as a star. I think come the draft he should get drafted. Edge is back and I heard they had a thing on tv this week with Christian and Edge running into each other. Maybe put him on smackdown and have him and edge do ether a partnership to go after 1 common rival or have them fued. Ether one have them work together so maybe Christian will put on the big great match and get the shove to the Real main event. With this new NXT being focused on young up and commer I would say Christian has no place there. Hes a vet that has been in the biz for a bit and in no way needs to be showcased in a show focused on the up and comming stars.

 

[RockNWag]

I'm pretty sure Christian will lose it. They're not advertising it as a "Name Change" It's a whole new brand, so it wouldn't make sense for him to "keep" the title. That title will probably just retire with him as the last ECW champ.

 

[Kayoh]

Is Christian too old to be the NXT Champion? I personally think that they should strip (or at least get him to lose it somehow) the title from Christian and bring him to Smackdown (so he can be with Edge) or Raw (because I'm sick of the constant Cena this, Cena that BS, Raw needs a new big time face). I'd like to see a more fit NXT champion like Dolph Ziggler, Cody Rhodes, or even Zack Ryder. Somebody who isn't necessarily ready for a big title reign on Raw or SD but is definitely talented enough for a push.

 

[proofinlife]

Is Christian too old to be the NXT Champion? I personally think that they should strip (or at least get him to lose it somehow) the title from Christian and bring him to Smackdown (so he can be with Edge) or Raw (because I'm sick of the constant Cena this, Cena that BS, Raw needs a new big time face). I'd like to see a more fit NXT champion like Dolph Ziggler, Cody Rhodes, or even Zack Ryder. Somebody who isn't necessarily ready for a big title reign on Raw or SD but is definitely talented enough for a push.

The easiest way to have him part with the ECW title and not look weak would be to have him drop the belt due to technicality. ECW does not exist, thus the belt does not exist, thus he is no longer a champion.

I highly doubt they'll ever pair Edge and Christian again. It's the pipe dream of many, but to put them together would drag both men down and put them 10 steps back in their career. They are both fantastic singles workers, and they worked hard enough to get out of the shadow of tag team wrestling. However, MAYBE they could have a feud down the line, but a feud requires a story, and they won't just throw them against one another upon being on the same show. It'll ease it's way into it to maximize reaction and buyrates.

However, I do like the idea of Christian being put on RAW. Before he left for TNA, his work against Cena was GOOOOOLLLLLLDDDDDD. I've never seen Christian so over with the 20+ Crowd in ANY arena before that feud began, and I'm sure they can pick that up right where it left off. Cena's a better actor than he was back then, Christian has improved a fair amount since switching to TNA (and generally carrying the company for a few months), and coming back to the WWE and generally carrying ECW for a few months, so to put these two together again would be fantastic. They can both talk great on the mic, and Vince knows if you just let these two go free and "have at it" on WWE Television, they'd get a great reaction from all audiences.

 

[Kayoh]

The easiest way to have him part with the ECW title and not look weak would be to have him drop the belt due to technicality. ECW does not exist, thus the belt does not exist, thus he is no longer a champion.

I highly doubt they'll ever pair Edge and Christian again. It's the pipe dream of many, but to put them together would drag both men down and put them 10 steps back in their career. They are both fantastic singles workers, and they worked hard enough to get out of the shadow of tag team wrestling. However, MAYBE they could have a feud down the line, but a feud requires a story, and they won't just throw them against one another upon being on the same show. It'll ease it's way into it to maximize reaction and buyrates.

However, I do like the idea of Christian being put on RAW. Before he left for TNA, his work against Cena was GOOOOOLLLLLLDDDDDD. I've never seen Christian so over with the 20+ Crowd in ANY arena before that feud began, and I'm sure they can pick that up right where it left off. Cena's a better actor than he was back then, Christian has improved a fair amount since switching to TNA (and generally carrying the company for a few months), and coming back to the WWE and generally carrying ECW for a few months, so to put these two together again would be fantastic. They can both talk great on the mic, and Vince knows if you just let these two go free and "have at it" on WWE Television, they'd get a great reaction from all audiences.

Good point on the singles thing. I definitely agree with you there. Christian as a HEEL would even be cool to see, although I don't think he could pull it off with the likes of Orton and DiBiase being on Raw. Maybe if Orton turns face and starts a feud with DiBiase it'll leave an opening for Christian to start a nice feud with Cena. That would be pretty awesome to see on both counts.

 

[Crippler CrossFace]

I've long wondered what exactly Christian was doing on the ECW/NXT brand, he put on some of the most memorable matches, I think he's just too good for that brand, I'd like to see him come to Raw and give either Zach Ryder or Yoshi Tatsu a chance for the title, I know they both might not be ready just yet but sometimes it's good to have a trial by fire, have a tournament like Calderownz said,

also a note how does this affect the whole Ezekial Jackson/ Christian feud

 

[2xtreme09]

Nxt will be fun to see what they do. I hope WWE will have a tournement for the Nxt championship and the likes of Evan Bourne and Dolph Ziggler in the match and give them a chance with the belt. WWE should also bring back the cruserweight championship to help devolep new superstars like Yoshi. O and about the Christian and Ezikeal Jackson thing, I think Ezekial should eliminate Christian and then he gets elimanted by a up comer such as Evan Bourne or Dolph Ziggler. Hell il even be happy with Shelton Benjerman or Zack Ryder.




All CM PUNK!!! SOCIETY!!

 

[Pone]

The NXT champ has to be "Big Zeke". I personally wanted to see him take the title at the RR, but with this new show on the horizion it seems only fit for Jackson to take the belt. He's a big guy who can actually put on a good match and is decent enough on the mic to carry a brand. Especially with Regal as his manager he could go a long way.


BTW...what happened to Kozlov?

 

[Y2J420RKO420]

I called it that christain would be the last ecw champ ever. i think if it were up to me i would have christian stay on tuesday nights till wm. hold a big 16-32 man tourny that last from nxt debut till wm and have the winner of the tourny get a title shot at the nxt title against christian and have christian job to him and leave tuesday nights for good. this would also be a GREAT time to turn christian heel.

 

[boozinjedi]

I think a big tourney is the answer...ala WrestleMania IV,
Like Hogan & Andre got the 1st round bye,Christian should given the bye in this one.
Have take place over the course of weeks between NXT's debut with it all leading up to the finals at WrestleMania XXVI.
Could make for some great matches you would normally NEVER think of!

 

[The Reaction]

Will the NXT show still have those ugly looking Silver ring ropes? They should be known as "the white show". Remember the red, white and blue ring topes the WWF used to use? Red became RAW; Blue became Smackdown; and for some reason, silver was used for ECW. I hope they give them the white ring ropes. It just makes sense and it's long overdue.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

As far as Christian goes, he's really done all he can as ECW Champion. I think it's time to either move him to Smackdown or Raw because if NXT is going to be a show featuring only young WWE talent, then Christian is going to feel out of place. While Christian is still a young guy in many respects, he's in his mid 30s and he's been a legitimate superstar in in wrestling for a long time now.

As far as the ECW Championship goes, I say retire it. If ECW is going the way of the dinosaur then it should become completely extinct. Retire the ECW Championship and don't simply change its name to the NXT Championship and keep it as part of the ECW Championship lineage. While ECW was not the return to hardcore glory as old ECW fans were hoping, ECW itself still proved to be a solid wrestling show that often featured very good matches.

However, this is a chance for the WWE to have a completely fresh start while leaving the past in the past. Having some connection to ECW, even if it's just sharing title lineage instead of creating a new title, renders half the purpose of NXT moot before anything even has a chance to begin.

As far as an NXT Championship goes, we're probably not going to see it come about for a while. I have a feeling that the WWE wants to get fans familiar with the show, let what it's about be stablized in the minds of the viewers, let them become familiar with the talent and all that before anything comes about regarding championships. Then again, I could be completely wrong. Either way, I'm intrigued to see what's gonna come about. I think the best way for the NXT Championship to make its debut would be a tournament spread out over the course of several weeks, maybe even a month. Guarantee a month of great wrestling, let the young guys show WWE viewers what the show is ultimately all about and just go from there.

 

[Theo Mays]

I think when the show debuts we will see the ECW title retired and Christian step out of ECW and move on to Raw or SD. Christian has been all about the youth (praising Tatsu and such) so he could bow out in their honor. Then I see some sort of tournament going down. Guys like Yoshi, Ryder, Big Zeke, Shelton, and Archer would all compete to become the NXT champion.

 

[BourneToFly]

So when ECW changes to NXT, what's going to happen to the vets that are on ECW now? Is there anyone on Raw or Smackdown who should go back to NXT? Should they bring Regal, Kozlov, Christian, Goldust, etc. up to the other shows, or should they keep them on there to job to the younger people?

I personally like the idea of dropping the ECW name since it's not ECW at all anymore, but since the vets aren't "next generation" talent, what's going to happen to them?

 

[Theo Mays]

I think they should keep some of the veteran guys on the brand for the purpose of helping put talent over. I think we might see Regal take over a managerial role with Big Zeke and see his ring time cut down. Goldust can continue to work with Yoshi and help put him over as well. Some veteran presence will be needed to guide the youth.

 

[Kanye South]

While I think its stupid for Vince to put a bunch of FCW no names to run a show that he's concerned about ratings for, It's genius marketing. No matter how much you hate the WWE and how much of a hiatus you've been taking from ECW, everyone is going to tune in to see what alternative NXT is going to be from ECW. Vince gets you everytime. You tune into Raw to see if anything interesting is going to happen, because thirteen years ago, it was the chitty chitty bang bang. But alas, every Monday, you are more or less disappointed, but you continue to watch, because you have that tiny little hope that Raw's gonna kick ass. And occasionally, we get a special gem, but those are very, very, very, very rare these days. And the same is going to happen with NXT. We could have a hit like Smackdown on our hands, or we could have a WWE Superstars on our hands, which only continues because of the dark matches that take place before Raw anyway (plus he gains advertising money).

NXT is somewhat of a mystery right now. And 9 times out of ten, it's going to suck major ass with a bendy straw. But you are going to tune in. That little monster in the back of your brain won't let you live without making you watch it. Vince has done that to you. While I may not agree with his creative skills as of late, Vince McMahon is one of the most intelligent businessmen ever.

 

[BourneToFly]

Well I didn't want to just jump out and start posting my thoughts without getting a view or two first, but I think they should keep around some of the people to make the younger talent look good. I also think every now and then they should have a "special guest," like Batista or Kane, or just someone with a bigger name, to come by and have a match with a top NXT talent like Vance Archer so that he doesn't just absolutely dominate every single opponent he has. I'm getting tired of the guy, really. Then again, I said the same thing about Sheamus, and look where he is now.

Christian and Shelton Benjamin, in my opinion, should get up to higher shows. They should both get their dues.

 

[byrnside]

They'll definitely have to keep the vets around for the soul purpose that everyone else has already mentioned, to put people over and give them the rub. My only question is, are they going to change the ECW title to the NXT championship? Doesn't quite have the same ring to it.