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Official: No Surrender Thread 2007

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If you insist on making card predictions give reasons. If you dont give reasons you post will get deleated and you will recieve an infraction. So it's a waste of everybodys time.
 
Honestly the only few predictions I can make are...

Cage vs Angle for the TNA championship.
Abyss vs Mitchel's new monster
Daniels vs Angle for X division.
Or...
X division gone= XXX vs Angle and his partner for Tag belts.

I think the DCOB match at tonight's Hard Justice has stipulation that the winner gets a title shot. The fact Abyss is on the poster might just be because he is going to start his feud with James Mitchel's new monster. Doesn't neccasairly *sp?* mean Abyss vs Angle imo. I picked Christian as I don't really know whom else I can see facing Angle in a month..

I think it'll be interesting to see what they do with the X Division belt, I mean Daniels did win number one contendership at the VR ppv, although him winning might've just been to re-form XXX and hope people forgot about that "perk". Maybe all the x division title being cancelled out rumors are untrue and angle will have 2 or even 3 title matches? Sounds like overkill, but then again, so did dropping the titles on 2 guys then even 1 for 2 months...

Anyways, if the X Division title is gone, then maybe Daniels X division contendership will transfer into Tag belt contendership for XXX?

Hope to see a good card, I usually come out satisfied with having given them my $30, I hope to see that trend continue :D

Alex~Vab
 
Based on what happened with T.N.A. Hard Justice I have the following predictions & reasons...

T.N.A. Championship: Kurt Angle v. Abyss
Reason: Obviously, Abyss won the Doomsday match & Angle won over Joe.. so thats it. I see Angle winning to fight Sting or Jarrett at Bound For Glory, & Abyss losing because of the final debut (or revealing) of Mitchell's monster.

#1. Contender's Match: Jeff Jarrett v. Christian Cage
Reaon: Bound for Glory in October will have a huge main event with Angle most likely facing Jarrett or Sting. Whomever it is, may be the first to 'officially' pin/submit Christian Cage.

Tag Team Championships: Team 3D v. LAX v. Steiners v. VKM
Reason: In all honesty, I can see this match being to declare the *NEW* Tag Team champions after Kurt somehow doesn't defend, or find a partner.. OR tries to give the titles to 3D? I'd love for it to be elimination, or even a version of Tag Team Turmoil.. but also, if this were to happen, I can see it more for Bound for Glory.

#1. Contender's Match: X-Division: Christopher Daniels v. Jay Lethal
Reason: Coming off the pinfall victory Lethal got over Daniels at Hard Justice, unfortunately, I can see this happening to determine who'll get the shot at T.N.A.'s version of Wrestlemania. (Bound for Glory)

Gimmick match: Rhino v. James Storm
Reason: Ending to their Barroom Brawl was unsettled, leaving Rhino looking like hes lost more than just a match.

Gimmick match: Dustin Rhodes v. Chris Harris
Reason: Rhodes absolutely destroyed Harris before Harris even had a chance. Put them inside 6 sides of steel.

(side note for the above two matches: I'd rather they had Storm & Rhodes v. Harris & Rhino, inside 6 sides of steel)
 
Well, its been confirmed in the spoilers for Impact. I hit it dead on. (in the post about what Angle would do with the Tag belts, by saying I thought he'd fight 3 times in one night) And I am NOT happy about being right. I may of liked seeing Kurt Angle wrestle 3 times in one night, if those 3 matches were worth something.. however..

X-Division Championship: Kurt Angle v. Jay Lethal (after Lethal somehow screws Daniels outta the contender spot) = this is clearly NOT a match-up. Angle will chew Lethal up, & spit him out.

Tag Team Championships: Kurt Angle (alone?) v. Ron Killings & Pacman = Okay, Pacman can't touch anyone. He's about as worthless in wrestling as a "unick" is in a brothel. And Killings being his partner? What the hell, "Oh, sorry about wanting to fight you. Lets team up, so I can fight Angle alone."

T.N.A. World Championship: Kurt Angle v. Abyss = Best of the three, except Abyss won't win due to the assumed long awaited debut of Mitchell's monster.

All in all, if Kurt Angle retains all three championships, I think its incredibly stupid. One man holding all the titles is NOT good for business. But when you look at the options.. Pacman/Killings isn't better, & Lethal may be worthy, but doubtful against someone like Angle.
 
Humm well looks like No Surrender will be the night of Angle. But any way you look at it Angle will lose the X and Tag Team belts but somehow manage to retain his World Championship with Mitchell's new guy attacking Abyss and costing him the gold. I think Lethal will get some cheap roll up for win the same with Team Pacman vs Angle be some cheap roll up for the win.
 
Ok so let me get this straight, No Surrender is now the night of Angle, shit I guess that TNA really does stand for Total Non-stop Angle, anyway it looks like we have three of our matches for the ppv, Machismo vs. Angle for the X-Division title, this is just stupid, Daniels wins a 10 man Ultimate X matchto become #1 Contender then before he can even get his title shot he has to fight for it again because Machismo pins him in a tag match, hmmm, here's an idea why not just make it a triple threat match, then you could have Angle lose the belt without being pinned, Second we have the tag belts, OK here's a question why the fuck are the tag belts being defended in a singles match?, that too is just stupid, why not make Angle find a partner and lose the titles on Impact in the weeks leading up to the ppv, they could have Abyss cost Angle the tag titles adding further fuel to the fire for their match at No Surrender, and then we got our Main Event which looks promising, Angle vs. Abyss, the only problem with this match is we all know Angle won't lose, the most likely scenario will be Jim Mitchell comes out and unleashes his "new monster" on Abyss, costing Abyss the title, bottem line if your an Angle fan than No Surrender is the ppv you've been waiting for, oh and one last question what happens if Angle suffers an injury in one of his first two matches of the night?, hmm TNA would kinda be screwed then wouldn't they, gotta say putting all the gold on one guy was a really bad idea
 
Well Justin I am one huge Angle mark so i love this night of Angle :). But I doubt that Angle will do anything major in his first two matches of the evening to injury himself as i see the X and Tag Team match each being no more than 5 minutes. But I can see they hype the main event as can Angle win he has lost twice already this evening and will the third time be the charm or the curse as Angle can hold his World title or lose it all. Of course Angle will win he is going to main event BFG it just that simple.

But from what we saw om inpact looks like a Samoa Joe/Christian Cage feud is in the making and this is good for Joe but i think he will lose at No Surrender with some help by AJ or Tomko. But I think they have the rematch at BFG with Joe being the first to pin or submit Cage.
 
I suppose I wasn't truly thinking of it, mainly because I can't see Kurt Angle losing to Ron Killings OR Jay Lethal.. but...

I can't clearly see T.N.A. being stupid enough to keep all their Championships on a man that from what reports have said.. barely makes it through one match without becoming disoriented. (sp?) So I can somehow see interference costing Angle the X-Division & Tag Team Championships. Plus, as its been said above.. I can also see Angle losing the X-Division & Tag Team Championships without actually losing them..

Think of this.. Lethal v. Daniels v. Angle.. Daniels wins over Lethal, Angle never technically loses.

Then.. since its been reported that Karen Angle has signed a contract.. I can clearly see Kurt & Karen v. Ron Killings & Pacman for the tag titles. (WORST Tag Team Champions, with either the Angle's or Team Pacman.. since W.C.W.'s Rick Steiner & Judy Bagwell) However, I can once again see Karen losing the match.. & for the second time, Angle never technically loses.

W.W.E. (F then) did this as Wrestlemania 2000 when Benoit & Jericho pinned each other to win the Intercontinental & European Championships from Angle, who never lost in the match & still walked away without either Championship he entered with.
 
vs. Abyss: I'm looking forward to the match. I dont doubt it will be quality. It's been on T.V. but I've given up on iMPACT. So this is a new PPV match. Certainly better than another Angle vs. Joe match. Should be good. I wouldn't be surprised if Angle takes a bump into some tac's.

vs. Black Machismo: I'm afraid this will be a squash. It's a shame because I really want to see this. But I just cant see them letting Lethal look competative. Especially because he has that comedy gimmick. I'm predicting a minute squash.

vs. Ron Killings & That NFL Dude: I dont know what to think about this match. It'll be worthless.
 
I don't know what TNA will do in the three Angle matches. But here is what I would do. I would have Samoa Joe think of ingenius ways to screw Angle out of the X Division and Tag Team Championships. And in the main event, as Angle is being decimated by Abyss b/c this is Angle's third match, Joe shows up and helps Angle retain. His motivation in helping Angle retain, is so he can take the title off him at Bound For Glory.
 
^ I had the somewhat similiar train of thought before my post got deleted a while ago for some reason....

Joe comes out and screws angle out of X and Tag belts, attempts to do it in the 3rd title match...cue the new monster coming out and destroying abyss allowing angle to retain and setting up the new monster vs abyss storyline.

Alex~Vab

Edit: hard for me to see that now though with the christian/joe storyline..
 
T.N.A. No Surrender: Predictions:

T.N.A. Championship: Kurt Angle v. Abyss
Reason: Obviously, Abyss won the Doomsday match & Angle won over Joe.. so thats it. I see Angle winning to fight Sting or Lesnar at Bound For Glory, & Abyss losing because of the final debut (or revealing) of Mitchell's monster, Judas.

#1. Grudge Match: Samoa Joe v. Christian Cage
Reaon: Definately in need of a filler Main Event with Angle carrying 3 matches. This fits nicely, as its a rematch from a previous p.p.v. Main Event. I see Christian winning with help, setting up some type of rematch, or possible Triple Threat w/ Jeff Jarrett at BFG.

Tag Team Championships: Kurt Angle/Sting v. Team Pacman
Reason: There is no possible way this isn't the opening match. This shouldn't even be a p.p.v. match to begin with. If I'm paying $30.00, I expect to see what they advertise. "Total Non-Stop ACTION" not "The New A-hole." Sadly, I can see Angle turning on Sting, & Killings picking up the pin, or worse.. the guy who isn't technically suppose to be involved in anything wrestling to begin with. My only hope, is that before BFG, the Tag Titles are on a team who deserve them. Even if that team is 3D, VKM, L.A.X., or the Steiners. (which in my mind, none of them are terrible)

T.N.A. X-Division Championship: Kurt Angle v. Jay Lethal
Reason: First & foremost I wanna explain that its not because I dislike Lethal, but I can't see how T.N.A. thought this match would be far better than a Chrstopher Daniels/Kurt Angle showing. By far, I'd pay $30.00 just for that, okay.. an under-card would be nice.. but considering this IS the under-card, it'd be a great match-up. Instead, we possibly get an upset with Lethal taking the Championship, or Angle retaining? If Angle retains either the Tag Championships or the X-Division Championship, then he should retain all 3.

Grudge match: Rhino v. James Storm
Reason: I somehow must of missed this match being announced on iMPACT! Because Rhino (like Chris Harris, I suppose) has been a no-show for the previous 3-4 iMPACT!s, hasn't he? At any rate.. I see Rhino showing up "drunk" & then surprising Stom by faking it.. or, if they carry this on to BFG, Rhino will show up "drunk" & really be it, or he won't show at all. Depends on whether they'll fight a 3rd time at BFG on who wins this match.

Grudge match: Dustin Rhodes v. Chris Harris
Reason: Just like the above mentioned match, I'm surprised to see the rematch a month later, when to my knowledge Harris hasn't been seen since his beat-down at Hard Justice. But I believe Harris will show up & it'll actually become a match. Am I the only one seeing a possible Tag Team 6 Sides of Steel match set up for BFG with Harris/Rhino v. Storm/Rhodes? Granted, I've only been wishing for that, for over a month now.

Robert Roode v. Kaz:
Reason: Again with being the only one? Am I alone in thinking Ms. Brooks will turn on Kaz, to show her loyalty to Roode.. or could Ms. Brooks be in for a face turn & actually side with Kaz, similar to her days with Bentley? Bentley had the "bounce." What could Kaz have?

10 Team Gauntlet: Team 3D, L.A.X., V.K.M., Triple X, Motor City MachineGuns, A.J. Styles/Tomko, Petey Williams/Sonjay Dutt, Raven/Havok, Eric Young/Sharkboy, Lance Hoyt/Jimmy Rave:
Reason: Out of the 10 teams, how many are actually legit? I'm thinking 5. Team 3D, L.A.X., V.K.M., Triple X, & MCMGs. Styles & Tomko could be the dark horse in this match, as could Hoyt/Rave depending. I think ultimately it'll come down to L.A.X., Triple X, or Team 3D. I like 3D just to set up them & the Steiners for the Championships.. BUT!!!!!! It has been announced the winning team gets a Championship match, at BFG.. so.. I see it being L.A.X., or Triple X.
 
10 Team Gauntlet:I have to say LAX as they are the best team there and deserve the belts.

No DQ-Wildcat v Black Reign:Revenge for Harris as he needs to come a feud winning after a great performance against Christian.

Kaz v Roode:Roode because hes been losing alot to EY and could do with a W.

Storm v Rhino:War Machine as Storm won for the last 2 months.

Joe v Cage:Joe to continue gathering momentum, though Cage could keep his unbeaten streak.

Machismo v Angle:Machismo as he deserves it back after his short run last time.

Dream Team v Team PAC:Sting and Angle as they will probably use the titles going into B.F.G.

Abyss v Angle:Angle by interference from Mitchell.
 
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TNA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH:
Kurt Angle vs. Abyss


This match should be good. I expect Angle to take a bump into some tacs. It'll be his 3rd match so he'll be knackered and I expect him to take short cuts. There's no way Abyss is winning.

TNA WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH:
Kurt Angle & Sting vs. Ron “The Truth” Killings and Adam “Pacman” Jones


I still dont know who this Pacman is. If he's not going to wrestle than why give him the titles? That's exactly waht I expect TNA to do.

TNA X DIVISION CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH:
Kurt Angle vs. “Black Machismo” Jay Lethal


I really want this to be competative. It wont be though. my prediction is a 30 second squash. Angle could make a star out of Lethal if he wanted.

“The Samoan Submission Machine” Samoa Joe vs. “The Instant Classic” Christian Cage

I didn't like the last match they had. I hope Joe wins. A loss wouldn't harm Cage but it would Joe. By definition Cage will therefore win.

“The War Machine” Rhino vs. “Cowboy” James Storm


Both of these should be main eventers. Should eb a good match. These are the two wrestlers that TNA should be pushing strongly instead of Sting, Tomko, Rhodes etc. Storm will win.

Kazarian vs. Robert Roode w/ Ms. Brooks


They should make a mid card title just for wrestlers like Roode. Not ready for a world title but improving week in and out. Needs to cut that hair though.

NO DISQUALIFICATION
“Wildcat” Chris Harris vs. Black Reign


Harris deserves better. Rhodes wins.

10-TEAM #1 CONTENDER'S GAUNTLET MATCH

The Voodoo Kin Mafia
The Latin American Xchange
Team 3D
The Motor City Machineguns
Triple X
AJ Styles & Tomko
“The Guru” Sonjay Dutt & Petey Williams
Raven & Havok
Eric Young & Shark Boy
Lance Hoyt & the debut of Jimmy Rave


This filler match could eb awesome given enough time. The only bad wrestlers are VKM, T3D, Tomko and Raven. Some are bad just because there past it and some have always sucked. But other than that there's some real quality. Again most deserve better. Styles and Tomko win.
 
T.N.A. No Surrender: Predictions:

T.N.A. Championship: Kurt Angle v. Abyss
There is no way that Angle will lose this match as we all know Mitchell's new guy will cost Abyss the match. Should be a good match up and I expect Angle to take a bump or two, but be a solid match.
Winner: Angle

Samoa Joe v. Christian Cage
They need they semi Main-event match and they have it here. They had a decent match at Destination X but i expect Cage to win with them having some kind of rematch next at BFG. Decent match with Cage cheating to win.

Tag Team Championships: Kurt Angle/Sting v. Team Pacman
Will TNA really put the gold on Team Pacman i sure hope not but they could. I dont think they will as it looks like they be building a Angle vs Sting match up at BFG but knowing TNA wants to be in the new i can see Team Pacman winning.

T.N.A. X-Division Championship: Kurt Angle v. Jay Lethal
This could a really short match that expect some fluke win for Lethal. I mean Angle could make Lethal look good and do wonder for his carrier but it be a quick match with Lethal getting a quick roll up for the win

Grudge match: Rhino v. James Storm

Meh. should be a solid match but i'm at the point of ending this feud and moving on so i say rhino wins since he been Storms' whipping boy

Grudge match: Dustin Rhodes v. Chris Harris
A match that should help Harris move up but i can see Rhodes winning and really is there a point to this feud i think not.

Robert Roode v. Kaz:
This one all comes down to what Ms.Brooks does and honestly I could not care anymore so i say she will help Roode to prove her loyalty to him

10 Team Gauntlet: Team 3D, L.A.X., V.K.M., Triple X, Motor City MachineGuns, A.J. Styles/Tomko, Petey Williams/Sonjay Dutt, Raven/Havok, Eric Young/Sharkboy, Lance Hoyt/Jimmy Rave:
Another damn filler match but i can see LAX winning if Team Pacman wins but if Angle and Sting retain i can see Styles and Tomko. Should be a nice filler
 
TNA World Heavyweight Championship
Kurt Angle (c) vs. Abyss - I think Angle will retain on account that Judas Mesias (Mitchell's new protégé) will finally debut to take out Abyss.

TNA X-Division Championship
Kurt Angle (c) vs. Jay Lethal - This match could possibly go either way but I'm hoping that Lethal can pull out the victory here to give the belt more credibility once again.

TNA World Tag Team Championship
Kurt Angle & Sting (c) vs. Team Pacman - As much as seeing Angle & Sting champs kinda bugs me, I really don't want to see Team Pacman win the belts.

Samoa Joe vs. Christian Cage - I think Cage will win this match with the help of his Coalition.

Rhino vs. James Storm - This is another tough one, but I feel Storm will win it on the account that Rhino will show up too drunk to compete.

Chris Harris vs. Black Reign - I think this will end up being a no contest. They will fight into the crowd and to the back and one will get so bloodied up that the much will get called off.

Kaz vs. Robert Roode - Roode will win this to set-up another match for the next PPV.

10- Tag Team Gauntlet Match
I think AJ Styles & Tomko will come out the winners of this match. Then they face Angle & Sting at iMPACT! or the next PPV where Tomko will finally turn on Styles to set up a feud with those two.
 

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