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Marty2Hotty
Getting Noticed By Management
You probably took up half the views
i can actually imagine y2jake saying that
Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
Mr-excitement
Pre-Show Stalwart
Funny thing is in the Olympic Auditorium years ago, Mando put over the Invisible Man gimmick, losing to him one and coming back a week later to pin him. True story, and he got a standing ovation for the performance.
Its been done in other places also.
This has also been done in Japan. A guy having a feud with an invisible wrestler. I think there's footage of it on youtube or somewhere.
Mr-excitement
Pre-Show Stalwart
Months ago I would have disagreed with you Disco, now i don't. Vince can do just about anything and Internet fans will hail it as brilliant - The return of Sid, Million Dollar giveaway?? Cena, Cena, Cena and the same recycled superstar vs. general manager angle.
Fans are complaining that Foley to TNA won't help it, but what exactly is Sid supposed to do in the wwe??
I am beginning to enjoy TNA and WWE less, well RAW less, but Smackdown is not bad. Overall, wrestling is a lot better now that I am realizing I know nothing about the business. I dont care about the ratings, just entertain me. That's what the territory days were all about and those were the best days of wrestling.
Fans are complaining that Foley to TNA won't help it, but what exactly is Sid supposed to do in the wwe??
I am beginning to enjoy TNA and WWE less, well RAW less, but Smackdown is not bad. Overall, wrestling is a lot better now that I am realizing I know nothing about the business. I dont care about the ratings, just entertain me. That's what the territory days were all about and those were the best days of wrestling.
"Do you like the work of Vince Russo? I think his early work is the best, but Shark Boy is really just an example of the IWC's incapability to keep a good booker down."
Marty2Hotty
Getting Noticed By Management
If Russo had his way, Shark Boy would be stunning people every week and raising hell.
Personally, as much as you people may hate it, I find it hard to diss Russo too much, he was a main writer of some of my fave WWF/E periods and he made a hell of a lot of sense in the shoot intwerviews I've seen of him. Yeah that goes against smark opinions and what he's "supposedly" been responsible for in TNA, but that's just totally from a viwers point of view of what I understand as to be his past work and my opinion of that at the time I was watching it as it happened. But saying that, I didn't like the on-screen Russo WCW era.
GreenEyedDevil
Dark Match Winner
Vince Russo and company put on a b@d@ss product, that is steeped in realism, and rooted in professional wrestling. If you cant relate to anything in TNA, get a life. Live a normal life for a while, away from wrestling. Have friends, go out, get in fights, get married, have sex. Go jogging, go to the gym, compete for jobs, encounter jealousy, and biases. Live in the real world for a while...then watch TNA. You will find something to grasp on to. You will relate.
You will understand why the characters act the way they do. You'll see the necessicity
to cross the line, to accomplish what you need.
If you cant grasp the dialouge, the characters, or the story lines, then shut the hell up and enjoy the break neck, fast paced, total non stop action. Theres enough good wrestling on one episode of impact to get me through the week. Why would you need a combined 5 hours of sportsentertainment to get your rocks off?
I cant believe Gilberti even tries to interact with the IWC. Somebody get this guy a Nobel Peace Prize. (btw, i know some fans are normal human beings, but come on, you freaks know who im aiming at in this post)
You will understand why the characters act the way they do. You'll see the necessicity
to cross the line, to accomplish what you need.
If you cant grasp the dialouge, the characters, or the story lines, then shut the hell up and enjoy the break neck, fast paced, total non stop action. Theres enough good wrestling on one episode of impact to get me through the week. Why would you need a combined 5 hours of sportsentertainment to get your rocks off?
I cant believe Gilberti even tries to interact with the IWC. Somebody get this guy a Nobel Peace Prize. (btw, i know some fans are normal human beings, but come on, you freaks know who im aiming at in this post)
Marty2Hotty
Getting Noticed By Management
damn straight. i mean, if you watch his wcw 2000 shows, you'll see one hell of a product. I think TNA is a shell of what he can really do. Sometimes, Russo gets his way, TNA can be awesome, but if you're filling up the show with just wrestling for the most part and everyone talkinga bout their wrestling matches (although the pretapes can be done and written well) it becomes tedious
Russo knows how to write badass wrestling and he needs to be writing.. like he used to do back in the day, but bring it to 2008. I hate a slow predictable product. i want to see some fast paced, badass wrestling stories, with lots of twists and turns on the shows
but if he does that i can imagine the IWC going "my head hurts, i can't remember what i just saw". Im sure they do that to all shows like 24, prison break, and heroes
Russo knows how to write badass wrestling and he needs to be writing.. like he used to do back in the day, but bring it to 2008. I hate a slow predictable product. i want to see some fast paced, badass wrestling stories, with lots of twists and turns on the shows
but if he does that i can imagine the IWC going "my head hurts, i can't remember what i just saw". Im sure they do that to all shows like 24, prison break, and heroes
GreenEyedDevil
Dark Match Winner
Thats just it. TNA is geared towards grown ups, and a more masculine audience. Even CurryMan,etc etc, is acceptable, because its smart to diversify the product.
But i have to imagine its hard for people who are used to being spoon fed extremely slow paced, predictable, sports entertainment, to appreciate TNA.
TNA is supposed to have a lot going on. What does the name stand for: TOTAL NONSTOP ACTION. A lot is going to happen. I cant stand it when people act all confused and beffudled by the product. The acronym TNA doesnt translate to WORLD WRESTLING ENTERTAINMENT. Theyre different products. Get used to it.
But i have to imagine its hard for people who are used to being spoon fed extremely slow paced, predictable, sports entertainment, to appreciate TNA.
TNA is supposed to have a lot going on. What does the name stand for: TOTAL NONSTOP ACTION. A lot is going to happen. I cant stand it when people act all confused and beffudled by the product. The acronym TNA doesnt translate to WORLD WRESTLING ENTERTAINMENT. Theyre different products. Get used to it.
Sometimes I change it to poet or lover.
I'm not going to point anything out to you right now Marty. Not a damn thing.
Why not? Worst they can say Is ''Euugh, Jake penis''.
dzonewrestle1
Dark Match Winner
Agreed Glen on dumbass low-life wrestling fans star-rating matches. I hate that stuff. John Cena is good, agreed. Agree with ya that guys gotta sell more and show some charisma.
However, u talked of how the booker can't really create a star by his pen. But here's the thing, if the booker is incompetent, then the wrestlers' potential is weakened. Russo 70% of the time does decent writing for TNA, but there's the 30% of him that doesn't make sence. Russo once booked a no DQ match on Nitro in 1999 with a DQ finish. Russo also once booked a no countout match on WCW that ended with a COUNTOUT! So how did those wrestlers benefit? They looked like fools because of the booking. Joe got over on his own. He's been booked as a general face for months, while he's been booked as a whiner and complainer, and the fans have turned on him because of the booking. On TNA, the heels are cool and do things that make sence, and the faces are such idiots, that they end up being booed. Ain't that backwards? Here's the thing with the Sting promo, from Lance Storms' column this week.
------------Now lets look at TNA, where Im going to focus on one angle in particular. The big angle on Impact during my time off was Stings black bat. Stings black bat kept being used by heels to KO baby faces, and everyone assumed that it had to be Sting. No one considered the fact that people other than Sting could use a black bat; it was an absolute given that Sting was behind these dastardly deeds and must have turned heel. That in itself was a bit of a leap of faith but this week on Impact Sting did a big speech and admitted that he was in fact the one behind all of the black bat / heel, shenanigans. Sting then offered an explanation for his actions and listed a bunch of disrespectful things AJ Style and Samoa Joe had done to him, which motivated his heel turn. This was all well and good except for one MONSTEROUS plot hole. All of the actions Sting listed occurred after the first black bat interference. Perhaps Sting has been studying with the Amazing Kreskin in his time off, because he preemptively turned heel in response to events that hadnt occurred yet. Way to go Stinger; or rather way to go Russo! On top of Stings new psychic powers, the confrontation between Sting and AJ styles that closed Impact this week, had fans cheering the newly turned heel Sting and booing baby face AJ Styles. TNA creative managed to book a illogical angle that produced the complete opposite reaction they desired. Truly Amazing!---------------
NEWSFLASH - The New Blood vs. Millionaries failed to draw money in WCW. Again, I like TNA and sometimes they do awesome stuff, but repeating an angle that failed to make money in 2000 is stupid.
However, u talked of how the booker can't really create a star by his pen. But here's the thing, if the booker is incompetent, then the wrestlers' potential is weakened. Russo 70% of the time does decent writing for TNA, but there's the 30% of him that doesn't make sence. Russo once booked a no DQ match on Nitro in 1999 with a DQ finish. Russo also once booked a no countout match on WCW that ended with a COUNTOUT! So how did those wrestlers benefit? They looked like fools because of the booking. Joe got over on his own. He's been booked as a general face for months, while he's been booked as a whiner and complainer, and the fans have turned on him because of the booking. On TNA, the heels are cool and do things that make sence, and the faces are such idiots, that they end up being booed. Ain't that backwards? Here's the thing with the Sting promo, from Lance Storms' column this week.
------------Now lets look at TNA, where Im going to focus on one angle in particular. The big angle on Impact during my time off was Stings black bat. Stings black bat kept being used by heels to KO baby faces, and everyone assumed that it had to be Sting. No one considered the fact that people other than Sting could use a black bat; it was an absolute given that Sting was behind these dastardly deeds and must have turned heel. That in itself was a bit of a leap of faith but this week on Impact Sting did a big speech and admitted that he was in fact the one behind all of the black bat / heel, shenanigans. Sting then offered an explanation for his actions and listed a bunch of disrespectful things AJ Style and Samoa Joe had done to him, which motivated his heel turn. This was all well and good except for one MONSTEROUS plot hole. All of the actions Sting listed occurred after the first black bat interference. Perhaps Sting has been studying with the Amazing Kreskin in his time off, because he preemptively turned heel in response to events that hadnt occurred yet. Way to go Stinger; or rather way to go Russo! On top of Stings new psychic powers, the confrontation between Sting and AJ styles that closed Impact this week, had fans cheering the newly turned heel Sting and booing baby face AJ Styles. TNA creative managed to book a illogical angle that produced the complete opposite reaction they desired. Truly Amazing!---------------
NEWSFLASH - The New Blood vs. Millionaries failed to draw money in WCW. Again, I like TNA and sometimes they do awesome stuff, but repeating an angle that failed to make money in 2000 is stupid.
Marty2Hotty
Getting Noticed By Management
Glenn's new artcle is out dated 8.31.2008:
I think Cena should play off the boos. I wathced WM 22 from the library - borrowed for free, and he cut this cheesy ass promo the next night thanking chicago, etc, when he should have told the people that boo'd him to kiss his ass. that's how you play off a crowd.
In regards to the article...
- wrestling matches. I admire how wrestlers can go through all the choreography, and if there's a lot of interesting stuff happening thorughout the match, i admire it more. it's an artform. I think the public knows it's scripted, so they don't pay too much attention to "why isn't this wrestler down long", but if you do x division matches and it's too fast, people might question it.. i dunno..
- In regards to Austin and Rock, them getting popular had very little to do with their wrestling ability. Same with Foley. Them wrestling the Raws in the main event is good. they need to be able to throw the punches, the moves, the power moves that get the crowd revved up - the sock, the elbow, the stunner, the rock bottom. These power moves and the action and the story get the fans into it.
- It was their characters, their weekly segments they had in the ring, backstage, them feeding off the hot rowdy fans in the revved up arenas, the language, the swerves, the feuds with McMahon, the feuds with Hart Foundation. Foley's climb to greatness was a combination of his crazy stunts, and his character, his humour, his stories.
I agree with glenn about the internet keep saying "they were themselves". If it was that easy, why isn't 95% of the WWE current roster over by being themselves? A lot of it had to do with the key points of dialogue, situations, what happens in the story on a week by week basis taht Russo was a huge part of giving these guys. Rock/Austin worked with the writers, gained confidence and grew and got better and better as the weeks went by. They got over as the weeks went by on a well written, exciting, edgy product.
Neither WWE or TNA really has a product that really "stands out" to the public at this point in time, although TNA can do it whenever they want to, I strongly believe.
During matches, wrestlers work it out themsevles. Well, you saw a TNA sample script. The key points of the matches, say "Angle makes a run-in, AJ does the styles clash, Booker T ducks the chair, Sharmell low blows AJ" - i'm sure all those are scripted to perfection on script.. but the stuff in between can be worked out unless the writer really wants the match to be done a certain way.
Disco talks about ECW a lot here. Well, I didn't watch ECW, but I'm sure they loved the quick chair shots, chanting "you fucked up" "holy shit" - to be honest, I never found taht stuff entertaining.
I like good entertainment in matches. I like good twists, and I don't even want to see super long matches when watching a wrestling show. An example of sheer boredom is Saturday Night's Main Event that WWE tried to do. Damn, I hate WWE's product. Their wrestling product is just so goddamn boring and it's the same shit...
In regards to the paragraph about Sting and the kids, I want to see what happens and I hope it results in great stories. But what is it going to take for TNA to have that "big angle".
In regards to creating stars, AJ STYLES was a star when he was goofy, when he was in the thanksgiving segments, when he was between Christian and Kurt. He was hilarious. That humour showed us a different side of him. He's kinda struggling again being serious, but it's fine.... Maybe samoa joe needs some humour too.. I mean, Rock, Austin, Foley all used humour and interaction with the fans to get over. Nobody likes to cheer a total serious guy - look at Benoit, even though they shoved the title on him, nobody really gave a rat's ass about him.. sure he's a great techincal wrestler, but he was boring and wasn't given an entertaining push
Lance Storm was boring, but the creative team in WCW made him entertaining by poking fun of his boring character, and they let him rename the 3 belts and let him say/do interesting stuff every week.
Thats' how you develop stars. Even Positively Kanyon kanyon uctting peopel every week. that's entertaining, and it made me laugh. Why can't Shark Boy do the same? Kanyon did that for months and I dont even think DDP came back for months. Shark Boy can just stun people too....
I think wrestlers need time to cut promos in the ring, do segments - entertaining segmetns in the ring, and just have fun with wrestling. Don't take it so goddamn seriously. A lot of the show can be fun.. you can have the main ones being the more serious ones but even the main angles can use humour. that's my take..
It's just wrestling.. have fun with the show!. if you're having fun writing the show and wrestlers are having fun wrestling/performing, the fans will have fun watching and enjoy the characters as well!!!!
I wasn't sure who to cheer, but I would cheer sting as a heel.. But i wanted more to go on and hopefully most of the show can be based on this huge angle, if this is the angle.
I think Cena should play off the boos. I wathced WM 22 from the library - borrowed for free, and he cut this cheesy ass promo the next night thanking chicago, etc, when he should have told the people that boo'd him to kiss his ass. that's how you play off a crowd.
In regards to the article...
- wrestling matches. I admire how wrestlers can go through all the choreography, and if there's a lot of interesting stuff happening thorughout the match, i admire it more. it's an artform. I think the public knows it's scripted, so they don't pay too much attention to "why isn't this wrestler down long", but if you do x division matches and it's too fast, people might question it.. i dunno..
- In regards to Austin and Rock, them getting popular had very little to do with their wrestling ability. Same with Foley. Them wrestling the Raws in the main event is good. they need to be able to throw the punches, the moves, the power moves that get the crowd revved up - the sock, the elbow, the stunner, the rock bottom. These power moves and the action and the story get the fans into it.
- It was their characters, their weekly segments they had in the ring, backstage, them feeding off the hot rowdy fans in the revved up arenas, the language, the swerves, the feuds with McMahon, the feuds with Hart Foundation. Foley's climb to greatness was a combination of his crazy stunts, and his character, his humour, his stories.
I agree with glenn about the internet keep saying "they were themselves". If it was that easy, why isn't 95% of the WWE current roster over by being themselves? A lot of it had to do with the key points of dialogue, situations, what happens in the story on a week by week basis taht Russo was a huge part of giving these guys. Rock/Austin worked with the writers, gained confidence and grew and got better and better as the weeks went by. They got over as the weeks went by on a well written, exciting, edgy product.
Neither WWE or TNA really has a product that really "stands out" to the public at this point in time, although TNA can do it whenever they want to, I strongly believe.
During matches, wrestlers work it out themsevles. Well, you saw a TNA sample script. The key points of the matches, say "Angle makes a run-in, AJ does the styles clash, Booker T ducks the chair, Sharmell low blows AJ" - i'm sure all those are scripted to perfection on script.. but the stuff in between can be worked out unless the writer really wants the match to be done a certain way.
Disco talks about ECW a lot here. Well, I didn't watch ECW, but I'm sure they loved the quick chair shots, chanting "you fucked up" "holy shit" - to be honest, I never found taht stuff entertaining.
I like good entertainment in matches. I like good twists, and I don't even want to see super long matches when watching a wrestling show. An example of sheer boredom is Saturday Night's Main Event that WWE tried to do. Damn, I hate WWE's product. Their wrestling product is just so goddamn boring and it's the same shit...
In regards to the paragraph about Sting and the kids, I want to see what happens and I hope it results in great stories. But what is it going to take for TNA to have that "big angle".
In regards to creating stars, AJ STYLES was a star when he was goofy, when he was in the thanksgiving segments, when he was between Christian and Kurt. He was hilarious. That humour showed us a different side of him. He's kinda struggling again being serious, but it's fine.... Maybe samoa joe needs some humour too.. I mean, Rock, Austin, Foley all used humour and interaction with the fans to get over. Nobody likes to cheer a total serious guy - look at Benoit, even though they shoved the title on him, nobody really gave a rat's ass about him.. sure he's a great techincal wrestler, but he was boring and wasn't given an entertaining push
Lance Storm was boring, but the creative team in WCW made him entertaining by poking fun of his boring character, and they let him rename the 3 belts and let him say/do interesting stuff every week.
Thats' how you develop stars. Even Positively Kanyon kanyon uctting peopel every week. that's entertaining, and it made me laugh. Why can't Shark Boy do the same? Kanyon did that for months and I dont even think DDP came back for months. Shark Boy can just stun people too....
I think wrestlers need time to cut promos in the ring, do segments - entertaining segmetns in the ring, and just have fun with wrestling. Don't take it so goddamn seriously. A lot of the show can be fun.. you can have the main ones being the more serious ones but even the main angles can use humour. that's my take..
It's just wrestling.. have fun with the show!. if you're having fun writing the show and wrestlers are having fun wrestling/performing, the fans will have fun watching and enjoy the characters as well!!!!
gg inferno
Pre-Show Stalwart
storm's going to end up with a bunch of egg on his face-AGAIN- as this angle plays out. maybe we should have a discussion about how he throws punches that travel 2 mph, and slaps his other hand on his arm for the whole world to see to try to simulat the sound of a punch in the face. maybe it's just me, but where is the lack of logic that sting tells the truth and the fans cheer? the way this angle is being written, because i know where it's going, the fans are going to start out cheering sting, and storm is going to look like an imbecile-AGAIN
Hyorinmaru
Sit Upon The Frozen Heavens
I have a question for Glenn.
(I was watching TNA Turning Point '04 and this question came to my mind.)
Everyone knows you were Disco Inferno in WCW, but what some may not know is that in the early days of TNA you were a part of a stable called The New York Connection with Johnny Swinger, Vito, and Trinity. Being from NY myself I like the NYC charcter better, but I would like to know which you like better and why.
(I was watching TNA Turning Point '04 and this question came to my mind.)
Everyone knows you were Disco Inferno in WCW, but what some may not know is that in the early days of TNA you were a part of a stable called The New York Connection with Johnny Swinger, Vito, and Trinity. Being from NY myself I like the NYC charcter better, but I would like to know which you like better and why.
Storm is a bland wrestler who needs to get his friggin facts straight:
1) The bat happenings all happened after Victory Road therefore fitting into the timeframe, unlike what he said. Not watching TNA hurt your credibility Lance.
2) Sting never admitted to the bat attacks. All he admitted to was Victory Road and Hard Justice. I bet he wasn't even responsible for all the bat things going on but rather that was someone like Kevin Nash. That would be a good angle.
3) The Sting promo sounded very realistic. Also it seems like the angle is a Point of View one where the fans decide who is the face and who is the heel.
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AS FOR DISCO'S COLUMN:
1) When I refer to booking I mean booking/writing. For example when I say TNA isn't booking Samoa Joe strong, I mean the writing makes him out to be a complete dufus.
2) I completely agree on TNA's style of wrestling. I don't rate matches by stars if at all but will say that TNA's wrestling desensitizes their product. Every finisher kicked out of, desensitizes the finisher. Every move not sold well, desensitizes the move. Every spot done, desensitizes the spot. I would suggest slowing down the product to work on more "in-ring psychology" and character development.
3) I have thought for a while now that TNA should temporarily phase out the X Division. The X Division style is the worst of TNA's no sell style. The amazing talents need to work with new wrestlers who know bigger man style. Plus you could have new feuds and finally incorporate a TV Title.
The best way to do this is have a Unification Match between the X Division and World Champion, having the World Champion win. The X Champ comes out the next week on iMPACT and talks about that TNA is the X Division etc. Bring in a TV Title, allowing the X Stars to work as tag teams or towards the TV/World Titles. Eventually when you get more time on TV, you can bring back the X Division Title. That would allow TNA to revamp the division with some fresh faces and feuds. What do you think?
dzonewrestle1
Dark Match Winner
I don't agree with eliminating the X-Division. TNA's X division has been marketed well throughout it's history, it's one of their big things. Yes, some net fans might get mad that guys don't sell as much, or a James Caldwell will be bored w/ a TNA spotfest, but kids love that sh*t. The X spotfests get reactions, despite internet bashing. The X-division can be good, the bookers just suck in TNA.
And the Sting angle, I think you are right about the bat stuff. He never did admit to the secret bat attacks. It's not a horrible angle, it's just screams WCW re-run to so many people. Mabye it will get more interesting.
agentmichaelscarn
Old School
I just got done reading another one of GG articles while it was good, I just dont understand why in every one all he seems to do is criticize the internet fans. I mean I get it you hate "internet schmucks" and thats fine you're allowed to have your opinion. I just wish he would write more articles dealing with other things besides trying to shut up the IWC and make them look bad or rip on them. Which it seems like all his articles are about. It would be cool if you wrote more about things that happened behind the scenes or funny stories instead of constantly trying to take shots at the internet fans.
I dont know if Im understanding this right or not but if I am then I gotta disagree with this. In his last article did he say that writers like Meltzer or internet fans arent qualified to rate or judge a match and dont know what a good match is because they never were in the business? If thats the case I disagree whole heartedly. Now maybe we havent been in the business but that doesnt mean that we dont know what a good match is. Siskel(when he was alive) and Ebert are probably the two most famous and respected movie critics in the U.S. but neither has acted a day in their lives(to my knowledge). So does that mean that we shouldnt listen or take their reviews seriously because they arent actors? Cause after all wrestling is a form of entertainment just like movies.
On a side note I hope his prediction of Calvin Johnson being a top 3 WR this year holds up since Im a die hard Lions fan(unfortunately). Also it would be nice if Thomas Jones scored 10TDs too this year like he said since I drafted him again despite having him last year when he killed my team by only scoring 1TD.
I dont know if Im understanding this right or not but if I am then I gotta disagree with this. In his last article did he say that writers like Meltzer or internet fans arent qualified to rate or judge a match and dont know what a good match is because they never were in the business? If thats the case I disagree whole heartedly. Now maybe we havent been in the business but that doesnt mean that we dont know what a good match is. Siskel(when he was alive) and Ebert are probably the two most famous and respected movie critics in the U.S. but neither has acted a day in their lives(to my knowledge). So does that mean that we shouldnt listen or take their reviews seriously because they arent actors? Cause after all wrestling is a form of entertainment just like movies.
On a side note I hope his prediction of Calvin Johnson being a top 3 WR this year holds up since Im a die hard Lions fan(unfortunately). Also it would be nice if Thomas Jones scored 10TDs too this year like he said since I drafted him again despite having him last year when he killed my team by only scoring 1TD.
Disco Sucks
Dark Match Winner
I honestly wonder if Mr. Gilbertti is just doing that because he knows is gets under the skin of internet fans, or if he just truly believes that wrestling philosophy. It would make sense for the latter seeing as I don't remember him ever being apart of any 5-star matches or close to it. Perhaps pro wrestling is just one big joke to him and he saw it as an easy paycheck. Whatever the case may be, I certainly do not agree with the sentiment that internet fans mean nothing.
Internet fans are the ones buying PPV's, merchandise, tickets to events, and even partaking in fantasy wrestling. The most hardcore football fans do the same with fantasy football and I can guarantee you many of them know what they're talking about in regards to the NFL. He seems to make it out as internet fans are stupid when in reality I bet you some of us could write better shows in both TNA and the WWE.
dzonewrestle1
Dark Match Winner
Yea Glen basically backs Vince Russo every column cause their friends. Russo is a good guy, just not the best booker in history in my opinion. Basically, Glen seems to think all net fans are worthless, even though net fans are most likely the majority of TNA's paying audience. But f*ck them, right?! I agree that star ratings are dumb, and some net writers are worthless. Wade Keller & Bruce Mitchell are two guys I used to listen to, and no longer do because they're always negative. Star ratings are way too serious for fake entertainment.
gg inferno
Pre-Show Stalwart
when i refer to internet schmucks, i'm not referring to everyone as a whole. look at the bottom of marty 2 hotty's posts, and he has my quote as to what i describe as your basic internet fan. does ebert read about what happens in a movie from start to finish before he reviews it? guys like meltzer and his minions review impact after watching it after reading the spoilers. i'm not saying that meltzer isn't qualified to review a match, it's just that he's been wrong about the type of stuff that draws, yet will never admit it.
gg inferno
Pre-Show Stalwart
you make a blanket statement that internet fans are the ones buying ppv's and merchandise. since tna doesn't release their buyrate information, how could you possibly know this? my whole point is that people that post on message boards and read the internet pundit's "news" get wrapped up in their own self importance, when there has never really been any concrete evidence that they actually are. i wouldn't expect a brainwashed community to be able to comprehend that what i try to teach them is far more important than what they've learned. it'd be like trying to be the keynote speaker at a hari-krishna convention, and telling all of them that people think they're a bunch of wierdos.
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