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Speaking of offending my audience, im shocked no one has commented on the Dolph Ziggler exchange Ty and I had. It was a heater, for sure.


Perhaps people care just that little for DZ

I agreed and disagreed with you at the same time.

Ziggler's selling can be a big attribute for his opponents, but he shouldn't sell like that every chance he gets. Against Roman Reigns for example, it's great if Ziggler "oversells" to make him look strong. But at the same time, on the next Smackdown, don't do the exact same kind of selling for Daniel Bryan. He needs to only do that big time selling for the bigger, stronger opponents. And that's when people won't be in awe of Ziggler's selling as they would be for his opponent's strength and power. Shawn Michaels was a master at this.

You should've heard me when I'd be drinking with my friend Linden while he was up here. He was from New Orleans and my Midwest accent would start slipping badly into mimicking his accent and the slang would start getting heavy. For whatever reason I have this impeccable ability to switch my speaking style and accent to match whomever I'm speaking to.

It's why you could hear my customer service voice, and then I suddenly start talking with a street mentality and slang, and followed up with a faux cajun accent if my friend is around.

Haha.... that's awesome.
 
I agreed and disagreed with you at the same time.

Ziggler's selling can be a big attribute for his opponents, but he shouldn't sell like that every chance he gets. Against Roman Reigns for example, it's great if Ziggler "oversells" to make him look strong. But at the same time, on the next Smackdown, don't do the exact same kind of selling for Daniel Bryan. He needs to only do that big time selling for the bigger, stronger opponents. And that's when people won't be in awe of Ziggler's selling as they would be for his opponent's strength and power. Shawn Michaels was a master at this.

Kind of still missing the point.

If Ziggler's selling was so great and he was doing such a great job of making his opponent look amazing, you would be talking about his opponent, not Ziggler.


Sly is gonna get a hard-on when he reads this post.
 
If Ziggler's selling was so great and he was doing such a great job of making his opponent look amazing, you would be talking about his opponent, not Ziggler.

No I get you, and I agree it's like that when he sells for smaller wrestlers where it's not believable they would have that kind of impact. But for guys like Reigns and Rusev, for example, I think it's a great attribute to be able to bump huge for those guys for their high impact moves. Obviously there can be a Jack Evans level of over doing it where a guy does three fucking flips off a clothesline, but Ziggler's never been that bad about it. His problem is that he sells big for everyone, when it should be reserved for certain opponents.
 
Yeah I still think he sells Reigns' spear better than anyone else. But he sells a standard front kick from Ryback the same damn way.
 
No I get you, and I agree it's like that when he sells for smaller wrestlers where it's not believable they would have that kind of impact. But for guys like Reigns and Rusev, for example, I think it's a great attribute to be able to bump huge for those guys for their high impact moves. Obviously there can be a Jack Evans level of over doing it where a guy does three fucking flips off a clothesline, but Ziggler's never been that bad about it. His problem is that he sells big for everyone, when it should be reserved for certain opponents.

he is reknowned for it.


The way you can tell someone is great seller if you see a trend of people he has wrestled being known to be powerful and badass....


not everyone talking about how he is just the greatest seller.
 
I know I'm behind, and just now giving these a listen, but seriously- quality stuff guys, and I expected nothing less.

And I drop far more F bombs than NorCal is here during day-to-day casual conversation, so the use of them in the podcast isn't distracting to me at all.
 
Do you know who was an underrated seller? Trish Stratus.

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For reals.

That literally may be the only time Edge's Spear looked good. She was amazing in every aspect.

he is reknowned for it.

The way you can tell someone is great seller if you see a trend of people he has wrestled being known to be powerful and badass....

not everyone talking about how he is just the greatest seller.

I see what you mean and definitely agree tenfold.

I just think Dolph's selling would be considered great if he didn't do it every single match and saved it for big opponents or really big time matches. He would still be credited as a great seller by the ultra smarks, but it wouldn't be his defining attribute like it is now.
 
I've the day off work still but I'm too frightened by all this football talk to check out the Ty episode. Are you happy, NorCal? Huh? Are ya?
 
We still need to work on the quick backstories as we didn't really make it clear what the gimmick for Sheamus vs. Ziggler is. It was mentioned in passing but it's not easy to understand.
 
Alright, just got done listening.

I was completely with you both on being very disappointed with the way Extreme Rules comes across on paper. That show has been one of my favorites the past 4 years or so and I just think on paper the show looks mediocre at best (as KB pointed out though, so did Wrestlemania and I loved the way 'Mania turned out).

That said, you two now have me actually looking forward to it, basically because you kept bringing up that the show is in Chicago (something I hadn't paid attention to before). Nearly every match you talked about, you brought up, "How will the Chicago crowd react to this?" And you know what? It's got me really curious to see as well. Chicago is the best wrestling crowd in the country so even if the event is absolute shit, those fans will put on a show for us. Definitely order that pizza for you and your lady, Norcs.

KB, your disrespect of Tommy Dreamer was bang out of order.

Also KB, you're terrible at putting Norcs jokes over, man. He had some funny stuff on this show (the Sheamus/Irish gags, for example) and you just sat there quietly. Kind of awkward, lol. Got to put your co-host over better, KB.

Overall though another good show guys. Glad you were actually able to wrap it up properly this time, and I love the closing line, Norcs, of "Card Subject to Change." Great stuff.
 
KB, your disrespect of Tommy Dreamer was bang out of order.

Now I'm just more anxious to listen cause FUUUUUUUCK TOMMY DREAMER!

Next to Dixie, he's done more to make me hate TNA then any other person on the face of this fucking planet, I'm tired of him cutting the same boring stupid shitty promo everytime he gets a damn mic in his hand, & I'm sick of his wrestling the same shitty "hardcore" match, dude is fucking terrible, & needs to step away from the ring, far far away.
 
KB, your disrespect of Tommy Dreamer was bang out of order.

Also KB, you're terrible at putting Norcs jokes over, man. He had some funny stuff on this show (the Sheamus/Irish gags, for example) and you just sat there quietly. Kind of awkward, lol. Got to put your co-host over better, KB.

Overall though another good show guys. Glad you were actually able to wrap it up properly this time, and I love the closing line, Norcs, of "Card Subject to Change." Great stuff.

I had a feeling this would come up. I have zero issue with Dreamer being a promoter, agent, backstage guy etc. That's the extent of my desire to ever see him again and he comes off as someone milking every single thing he can out of the memory of a long dead company because it's all he knows, which is clearly not true. Between that and some of the stories I've heard him tell and sitting through the same match over and over again, he's ruined every bit of good feelings he earned in ECW.

Yeah I was bad about that, though in my defense, I had been awake going on 25 hours and could barely see straight. I'll try to get better on that.
 
I'm up to you guys talking about the Show/Reigns match. I can't wait for the Chicago crowd to tear that Show/Reigns Last Man Standing match apart, that shit is gonna be hilarious.
 
I had a feeling this would come up. I have zero issue with Dreamer being a promoter, agent, backstage guy etc. That's the extent of my desire to ever see him again and he comes off as someone milking every single thing he can out of the memory of a long dead company because it's all he knows, which is clearly not true. Between that and some of the stories I've heard him tell and sitting through the same match over and over again, he's ruined every bit of good feelings he earned in ECW.

A lot of his modern-day stuff makes me cringe these days as well. But he works so hard and is such a good, genuine person that I could never turn my back on him. Plus I consider him a legend of sorts in this sport/business, so there's that as well.
 
A lot of his modern-day stuff makes me cringe these days as well. But he works so hard and is such a good, genuine person that I could never turn my back on him. Plus I consider him a legend of sorts in this sport/business, so there's that as well.

90% of my issues with him are for his modern stuff. He was one of my favorites in the original ECW. I'll leave the legend part alone as that's something that's kind of hard to argue one way or another.
 
I thought the podcast was good, though I would like to hear at least one more co-host in there for some of these future PPV preview shows, like maybe add a third co-host on the Summer Slam, Royal Rumble, & Wrestlemania preview pods.
 
Also KB, you're terrible at putting Norcs jokes over, man. He had some funny stuff on this show (the Sheamus/Irish gags, for example) and you just sat there quietly. Kind of awkward, lol. Got to put your co-host over better, KB.

Overall though another good show guys. Glad you were actually able to wrap it up properly this time, and I love the closing line, Norcs, of "Card Subject to Change." Great stuff.

Hey man, if KB doesn't find me funny, he is under no obligation to laugh. As long as you guys laugh, its alll good.


and the best part of that line is that I decided to go with it about 5 minutes before the close of the show, when I used it in reference to something in the show.
 

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