"New Rules" with IDR

[hurleyworld4]

But that's not his point. If you contribute to the discussion, it's different. Look at the example IDR gave of a red rep worthy post. mr brownstone basically says that they will have a crap match and no logical follow thru simply because it's TNA. No supporting details; no better suggestions; NOTHING. If you want your opinion to be respected, support it with facts. Otherwise, browny shouldn't have posted.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

But that's not his point. If you contribute to the discussion, it's different. Look at the example IDR gave of a red rep worthy post. mr brownstone basically says that they will have a crap match and no logical follow thru simply because it's TNA. No supporting details; no better suggestions; NOTHING. If you want your opinion to be respected, support it with facts. Otherwise, browny shouldn't have posted.

DING DING DING DING DING!

What do we have for him, Johnny?

Why it's GREEN REP!

 

[nightmare]

paint 'em red IDR!

im all for a good debate but its hard to have a discussion w\ people who blindly use the same argument w\ every post. most of which arent even their opinions, but rather words used by other posters. i see people everyday posting the same things over again in different places, but saying the same thing. some people see a well thought out post & just say the exact same thing as the other, but somehow in a less intelligent way.

it goes both ways. tna posters & wwe posters are loyal to their brand. thats all well & good, but fucking make a good point as to why. dont just copy & paste others statements or say'(blank) sucks because their (blank)'....

IDR is just saying give reasons why if your opinion is different than someones, dont blindly say dumb shit because you dont know any better.


i love tna more than wwe. but if someone says 'tna is ******ed, they do the same shit over again'- im nt gonna just say fuck you & bash the wwe & say 'well cena sucks so, blah'. its childish & dosent make points for discussion. its counter productive& just creates a thread fueled by a big pissing contest by un-intelligent parrots.

 

[JenksIX]

I haven't been posting in the TNA section because discussion is shit there. Aside from IDR, there really don't seem to be that many good posters whatsoever. And the people who actually put thought into their posts, their way of thinking is completely opposite to that of mine (If you think WWE RAW has been better then TNA Impact the last couple of weeks, I have a feeling your blinded by your markness.)

I mean the posters come in there and don't have a clue what they're talking about half the time. I'll make a long thought out post and get responses like "I think "they" is Rhino, Samoa Joe and the Wolf Pac and Chris Jericho will be revealed as the leader ... or Shane McMahon." And then yeah, they'll end that by saying "It will probably be something like the reforming of MEM, b/c TNA always ruins things."

I usually don't even agree with the TNA marks most of the time because they're always bashing Bischoff and anyone whose not a TNA "original" which Samoa Joe is? but he's been there a shorter period of time then guys like Nash/Rhino.

The TNA fans at that section are all indy fans it seems and don't appreciate Sting, Nash, Rhino or any of the established WWE/WCW guys who've helped build the company as well.

Anyway, TNA is going very fucking well right now and everything thing they are showing is a big storyline (KO's, Tag Team, Hogan/Sting, EV2/Four, Fatal Four) and this PPV is stacked with great matches. And we still have surprises, good or bad, waiting in the wings.

 

[Via Armbar]

Abuse of power – what power? I'm not banning them for it, or even warning or infracting—I'm doing what every user on this forum has the "right" to do in repping someone for their post. It being good or bad is at my discretion as a user, it has no bearing on my being a mod, unless mods are now held to the rule of not red-repping other users and I simply wasn't told or hadn't noticed?

Abuse of power may not be the best term to use, apologies. I just meant that it wouldn't be met with as much attitude or backlash for red repping people for opposing views because you are a mod. Really, would people bitch about being red repped by a mod as they would for being repped by a random poster? No.

Logic is certainly relative as well, as is all things we discuss here. In fact, anything posted is relative, relatively speaking, but that doesn't mean that a general concept of what is logical and what isn't can't be applied (as it often is anyway).

My point is logic should not be determined by an obvious bias. I have a clear idea of what you mean by logic. It just seems like heading into things with such a bias could be detrimental to what you consider logic. Maybe it's just me.

Are you telling me that someone who presumed, logically, that the Great Khali is a better wrestler than Desmond Wolfe isn't considered wrong by the majority of the forum?

Of course I would disagree with that statement. What you're saying though is that you disapproved of the above statement and that is what would make you rep them for it. Not because there is a lack of logic. Does that not show an immediate bias before the post is even written? To me, that is not a fair and equal mind.

 

[Remy LaCroix]

Haha, I own that book in the title.

Anyway, I can totally see where IDR! is coming from. It's a nuisance reading "Oh but it's TNA, what can THEY do right" as a cop-out. I'd join in painting the town red if if I weren't stuck grey-reppin'.

...and I totally didn't mean the "THEY" play-on-words in my post.

 

[Via Armbar]

paint 'em red IDR!

im all for a good debate but its hard to have a discussion w\ people who blindly use the same argument w\ every post. most of which arent even their opinions, but rather words used by other posters. i see people everyday posting the same things over again in different places, but saying the same thing. some people see a well thought out post & just say the exact same thing as the other, but somehow in a less intelligent way.

I have never used the words of any other poster here, ever. I say whatever the fuck I think every time I post without the desire to impress anyone. What you seem to be saying is a boatload of nothing so don't criticize what other people say.

it goes both ways. tna posters & wwe posters are loyal to their brand. thats all well & good, but fucking make a good point as to why. dont just copy & paste others statements or say'(blank) sucks because their (blank)'....

I get what you are attempting to say, but I am not discussing this point at all. I'm talking about being negative about someones post not because it is a shit post but because it is in disagreement with what someone else believes. I'm all for red repping completely terrible posts.

IDR is just saying give reasons why if your opinion is different than someones, dont blindly say dumb shit because you dont know any better.

I sincerely hope this is directed towards someone else and not me.

i love tna more than wwe. but if someone says 'tna is ******ed, they do the same shit over again'- im nt gonna just say fuck you & bash the wwe & say 'well cena sucks so, blah'. its childish & dosent make points for discussion. its counter productive& just creates a thread fueled by a big pissing contest by un-intelligent parrots.

Well good thing I've never done as such and that isn't what my arguments pertain to in the first place.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

I get what you are attempting to say, but I am not discussing this point at all. I'm talking about being negative about someones post not because it is a shit post but because it is in disagreement with what someone else believes. I'm all for red repping completely terrible posts.

But that's just it, Armbar, how do you determine what constitutes a "completely terrible" post and what doesn't? To me, "completely terrible" is any post that uses a cop out argument like "well, it's TNA, so it's expected" to validate your complaint. It's not good enough.

You seem to think that I'm red-repping anyone who says TNA sucks — I'm not. Believe me, I read about four dozen posts that say that in one way or another a day, and none of them get red-repped for it, unless of course, they say so in a very particular manner that comes off as a cop out like Browns post in my OP here.

Instead of discussing Sting & Nash or Jarrett & Joe, he briefly touched on all four in one fell swoop as a means to say that the match has no point because it's what TNA does, not because this particular feud doesn't have the proper ground work to really mean anything, or any other logical deduction. Instead of giving a reason, a blanket is provided, and anyone who does that is going to get red-repped by me for it.

 

[Rhonda Rousey's Sports Bra]

I red rep for less..... Much less.

 

[DirtyJosé]

I know, right?

 

[Hazardous]

I red rep for less..... Much less.

And you're not kidding on that. Felt that sting before. I do see where IDR is coming from. Hell I'm not even a TNA fan myself, and I get sick of people with the one line shot about how they suck, and not explain how or why they think that.

 

[Via Armbar]

But that's just it, Armbar, how do you determine what constitutes a "completely terrible" post and what doesn't? To me, "completely terrible" is any post that uses a cop out argument like "well, it's TNA, so it's expected" to validate your complaint. It's not good enough.

You seem to think that I'm red-repping anyone who says TNA sucks — I'm not. Believe me, I read about four dozen posts that say that in one way or another a day, and none of them get red-repped for it, unless of course, they say so in a very particular manner that comes off as a cop out like Browns post in my OP here.

Instead of discussing Sting & Nash or Jarrett & Joe, he briefly touched on all four in one fell swoop as a means to say that the match has no point because it's what TNA does, not because this particular feud doesn't have the proper ground work to really mean anything, or any other logical deduction. Instead of giving a reason, a blanket is provided, and anyone who does that is going to get red-repped by me for it.

I completely understand what you're saying, trust me I do. It would bug the fuck out of me if people posted like that constantly. I understand your frustration. I also wasn't speaking of only you in particular. It seemed like you were going into a post with the mindset of repping them for having a difference in opinion rather than the post being bad, and there is a huge difference. Like you said in the comment about a poster stating that Khali is a better wrestler than Wolfe; you are disapproving of the comment rather than the manner in which it's delivered. Something like that shows no regard to the quality of the post, no matter if it's in disagreement with an opinion of yours.

Honestly it isn't a big deal to me, something just seemed off about the OP. I get what you're saying and for the most part I agree. I just think there is a difference in a post being bad and a post being bad because it disagrees with what you say.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

I completely understand what you're saying, trust me I do. It would bug the fuck out of me if people posted like that constantly. I understand your frustration. I also wasn't speaking of only you in particular. It seemed like you were going into a post with the mindset of repping them for having a difference in opinion rather than the post being bad, and there is a huge difference. Like you said in the comment about a poster stating that Khali is a better wrestler than Wolfe; you are disapproving of the comment rather than the manner in which it's delivered. Something like that shows no regard to the quality of the post, no matter if it's in disagreement with an opinion of yours.

Honestly it isn't a big deal to me, something just seemed off about the OP. I get what you're saying and for the most part I agree. I just think there is a difference in a post being bad and a post being bad because it disagrees with what you say.

We're in agreement here.

I actually provide a real reason in my red rep (instead of just periods or gibberish like I often get in the ones sent to me) if I'm repping the post for something I disagree with.

For example, a user this morning posted about how TNA is shit and how it's booking is trash, yadda yadda yadda, and then wrote something about how Russo and Dutch are destroying it. My red rep went to him for failing to even realize that Mantell was fired months ago, not because he shit on TNA.

 

[Via Armbar]

Yeah if you're going to bitch, know what you are bitching about at least.

 

[D-Man]

All this for red rep? Come on, guys.

 

[nightmare]

I sincerely hope this is directed towards someone else and not me

whoa, hold on buddy. in no way was i referring 2 you in my post. in fact u are one of the intelligent people i referenced that seem to get ripped off by some of the ******s on wz. i respect your posts based on the fact u write well thought out posts & stand by ur words. armbar...-you, dman, IDR, & nor-cal are some of the people i respect most on these forums because your all smart & stand behind your posts. so i apologize if you thought i was reffering to you. you might nt have the same ideas\opinions as me, but i respect the hell out of you for being real in your stance.

 

[Via Armbar]

I like the way your lips feel on my ass Nightmare, proceed.

Oh and IDR, I would have at least chuckled if you red repped me.

 

[Clark Kent]

Even though I also find many problems with TNA, I never make posts just to call the product shit. Just saying, there are some good things about the company, so it isn't hard to make a logical, well thought out, positive post. So I see where IDR is coming from. I'm in no way a TNA mark either btw.

 

[nightmare]

I like the way your lips feel on my ass Nightmare, proceed.
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ha! i dont kiss ass, i put my size 13 steel-toe to action. i was just giving credit to those where credit is due.

but seriously man, i just wanted to clarify that up. i hate it when my words are mis-used or someone gets defensive when i wasnt even talking bout them. trust me, if i meant you, i would have said so. i didnt list names of the guilty because their numbers are many. typing out the names of the useless just gives their existence meaning. i meant the dumbasses w\ 10-15 posts who think they know paul heyman or how to run a fucking company.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

I like the way your lips feel on my ass Nightmare, proceed.

Oh and IDR, I would have at least chuckled if you red repped me.

HA! I regret not doing it now. LOL.

 

[Merwin]

i hate it when people say shit like it is TNA Its like they want TNA to fail if you don't like don't watch

 

[D-Man]

i hate it when people say shit like it is TNA Its like they want TNA to fail if you don't like don't watch

They don't teach proper English to 14 year olds?

 

[Rhonda Rousey's Sports Bra]

Not on PS3

 

[Via Armbar]

No worries.

 

[Merwin]

Fuck spell check abd grammar