Michael Cole Is Seriously An Idiot

[TM Punk]

I'm sorry, I just feel I need to rant for a second. I've been a cole supporter in the past...welll I felt he deserved a chance. But it seems like EVER WEEK he's forgetting the names of moves, or just calling them the wrong thing all together! During the Miz vs Rey match he called a CLEAR flying head scissors a hurracanrana. And I know maybe they can get mixed up once in a while, and that's fine. But when you're calling one of the biggest main events in years in cm punk vs john cena, and cm punk does a body scissors and you "oh!!! Anaconda vice!!! Anaconda vice!!!" There's something wrong. And then 25 minutes later when cm punk actually gets cena in THE anaconda vice and you say "oh!!! Cm punk has a submission move on him!!!" It makes you sound fucking stupid. Seriously, the guy has been in WWE at least 14 years, and he doesn't know these things? Is he not trying anymore? I mean, the anaconda vice is cm punks finishing submission. Horrible.

Has anyone else noticed anything else like this?

Do you feel like he just isn't trying anymore?

 

[KoC417]

If you watched Money in the Bank he called a CM Punk kick a "straight right hand" or something of the sort when Punk kicked ADR's head off. Cole has been getting VERY sloppy as of late. I remember a while back he called a chokeslam a Tombstone. Don't know how you could get THOSE mixed up. I could see the right hand/foot getting...no wait I really can't 1 is up and 1 is down. Cole is plainly an idiot.

 

[Helmut Spargel]

I think Michael Cole is very good in his repartee with Lawler. He does a good job selling the heels while not appearing tremendously delusional. However, I agree that his technical knowledge is mediocre at best and it is obvious he has never taken the time to learn much about the craft he announces. His Ryder rumble further cemented my views, because he looked like absolute garbage in the ring. There's a reason most of the great announcers in any sport are ex-participants. They know the most about the game (no pun intended.)

 

[KitInaka]

Oh No! Michael Cole messed up the name of two moves in a match! Please...Michael Cole is really and truthfully an amazing heel right now. He can get heat in an instant and is really good at it. Take when JR came back. His expressions told the story more than his words did. And then when he used actual words, they were golden. He is obviously no JR but he's obviously not trying to be.

TLDR Cole is a heel magnet and does exactly what he needs to... /thread

 

[KoC417]

Oh No! Michael Cole messed up the name of two moves in a match! Please...Michael Cole is really and truthfully an amazing heel right now. He can get heat in an instant and is really good at it. Take when JR came back. His expressions told the story more than his words did. And then when he used actual words, they were golden. He is obviously no JR but he's obviously not trying to be.

TLDR Cole is a heel magnet and does exactly what he needs to... /thread

His expressions!? Everytime that moron gets the camera on him I think he takes a massive dump. Michael Cole is TERRIBLE. How do you mess up a KICK/PUNCH!? If i actually watched Raw which I don't even bother anymore I simply YouTube matches if they sound interesting I would take note on the countless errors Cole has. Isn't the duty of a PLAY BY PLAY guy to CALL THE CORRECT MOVES!?

Imagine you are watching a game of football and Madden or someone else calls a HANDOFF a hail mary. Or a pitch a TE option.

Cole is failing to call basic moves. I do remember him calling either a drop toe hold or an arm bar a crossface as well. NOT Crippler crossface obviously. But the guy constantly makes errors. I don't believe he can go a full show without making a handful of errors. He's no JR which SUCKS because if he had JR's knowledge and his own heel ability whooooo man would he be valuable! THEN I could enjoy him playing a heel but I can't enjoy watching when he constantly makes errors.

 

[king4day]

Oh No! Michael Cole messed up the name of two moves in a match! Please...Michael Cole is really and truthfully an amazing heel right now. He can get heat in an instant and is really good at it. Take when JR came back. His expressions told the story more than his words did. And then when he used actual words, they were golden. He is obviously no JR but he's obviously not trying to be.

TLDR Cole is a heel magnet and does exactly what he needs to... /thread

Agreed. People are anal about an announcer. He's been doing this for over a decade. I'm sure he knows the difference between a head scissors and hurricane-rama. Mistakes happen.

And to knock his inring talent is just a joke. He's not a wrestler and he wasn't there to look good. He was there to get squashed by Ryder.

This thread is a laugher.

 

[XXJJ]

His actual play by play skills are average at best. He still calls the powerslam Orton does a scoop slam. Its amazing that no one is correcting him either.They are much better off having JR doing the play by play. Would of loved hearing JR call MITB ppv.

I like Cole. I think he could be a great manager. He would get Vickie type of heat from the crowd. Or he would be very good as the heel announcer. I can see him being very entertaining ripping JR and King. He just isn't meant to be a play by play guy.

 

[drobs85]

That's weird, although I've never heard all the commentary for Cole's matches i have never heard him make mistakes like that. Wonder what's going on with him. For the most part he was always good when i heard his matches. At least he doesn't talk about "trapezius" muscles and sternums all day like good ole jim ross.

 

[KitInaka]

His expressions!? Everytime that moron gets the camera on him I think he takes a massive dump. Michael Cole is TERRIBLE. How do you mess up a KICK/PUNCH!? If i actually watched Raw which I don't even bother anymore I simply YouTube matches if they sound interesting I would take note on the countless errors Cole has. Isn't the duty of a PLAY BY PLAY guy to CALL THE CORRECT MOVES!?

Imagine you are watching a game of football and Madden or someone else calls a HANDOFF a hail mary. Or a pitch a TE option.

Cole is failing to call basic moves. I do remember him calling either a drop toe hold or an arm bar a crossface as well. NOT Crippler crossface obviously. But the guy constantly makes errors. I don't believe he can go a full show without making a handful of errors. He's no JR which SUCKS because if he had JR's knowledge and his own heel ability whooooo man would he be valuable! THEN I could enjoy him playing a heel but I can't enjoy watching when he constantly makes errors.

Are you watching the same show I am? Oh wait, no your not. Your watching half the show I am...

Let me put it to you this way? When was the last time Booker T called something wrong during a match. Actually he never really has apart from once or twice. By your logic Booker T is a better Announcer than Michael Cole...

Here's another thing? If Michael Cole is so bad, why is he on two shows? Even better! Why was he specifically picked to be the third guy on Smackdown? They could've easily gone to JR but they didn't. They chose Michael Cole.

I'm probably feeding a Troll with this but honestly I don't care. Michael Cole has been great. His character was falling flat and with JR, he's now got some fresh meat.

 

[KoC417]

Are you watching the same show I am? Oh wait, no your not. Your watching half the show I am...

Let me put it to you this way? When was the last time Booker T called something wrong during a match. Actually he never really has apart from once or twice. By your logic Booker T is a better Announcer than Michael Cole...

Here's another thing? If Michael Cole is so bad, why is he on two shows? Even better! Why was he specifically picked to be the third guy on Smackdown? They could've easily gone to JR but they didn't. They chose Michael Cole.

I'm probably feeding a Troll with this but honestly I don't care. Michael Cole has been great. His character was falling flat and with JR, he's now got some fresh meat.

Feeding a Troll. Dude your post count is rather low to be calling ME a troll

Is Booker T the play by play guy that WWE was "polishing" for us?
Bring back Josh on play by play. Let Cole do regular commentary or just be there to annoy people. Don't have him calling PLAY BY PLAY. HIS JOB AS A PLAY BY PLAY COMMENTATOR IS TO CALL THE MOVES CORRECTLY! THAT'S IT! That is your job. You are play by play you CALL the moves.

They could've easily gone to JR!? Dude are you a f*cking moron? JR has been suffering MEDICAL problems which has prevented him from returning to a FULL TIME schedule. My god is this guy for real!?


And yes I'm watching HALF THE SHOW. And in HALF the show I'm finding repeated ERRORS. So if he is making those errors in HALF the show I can't imagine having to sit thru a FULL SHOW

 

[drobs85]

Cole is incredible at calling the big spots in matches, just listen to when the undertaker got driven through the table by batista in their wrestlemania match. He also has been pure gold in his heel turn and his constantly dissing of colleagues. The man is around for a reason, he's good. He doesn't need to do play by play, he's bigger than that.

 

[TM Punk]

There are no trolls here. I was just simply stating that if they're going to have him be the main play by play guy he should know the difference between cm punks body scissors, AND HIS FINISHING SUBMISSION MOVE!!! Its been happening a lot recently, and I just wanted to know if anyone else has been noticing this. No one said he wasn't a good heel. He's a great heel, but I feel like they need to get him away from the booth and make him a manager, or straight up make him the heel color comentator. He's a horrible play by play guy. Anyone remember the god awful ROCK BOTTOM!!! ROCK BOTTOM!!! ROCK BOTTOM!!! ROCK BOTTOM!!! Calls?

 

[H33LTurn]

It just feels like nobody's trying anymore. Between King, JR, Cole, and Booker we have guys who have the experience and should be doing a better job at announcing. I miss Matt Striker, Josh Mathews, Todd Grisham. Those guys had a handle on what was going on in the ring. They made wrestling sound so much more sport like. Sure they dont have as much enthusiasm as the old guys but I would take them over Cole and Lawler any day of the week.

 

[sTyLnK]

Everyone messes up names once in a while. We're all human. Cole is great and does a good job most of the time. If you don't like him fair enough that's your opinion, but I feel since Vince made JR step away (for health/safety reasons) he has done a fantastic job in his place. Yes, no one is as good as JR, but give the guy credit for stepping up his game and playing his heel character down to perfection.

BTW I don't know why some people bash Jerry so much. He's not trying anymore? He does a great job still. You have to remember you can't have two heel announcers so King had to change to the nice guy. If you listen to his past stuff and compare it to now he's not that far off at all. The IWC love to make a mountain out of a mole I tell ya. Lord. Bitch and whine it's all they ever do and no I don't consider myself part of the IWC. I watch wrestling and I don't nit pick at crap. I just sit back, enjoy and get lost in the entertainment which I've been doing for 21 years.

 

[Klown_Karnage]

So far as I'm concerned, Michael Cole's sole purpose is to be hated and to find as many ways as possible to be hated. Does he get a lot of things wrong? Yes. Does he run his mouth about things he knows nothing about with annoying consistency? Absolutely. Does he still have the maturity of a four-year-old? Might be a little insulting to the four-year-old in question, but yeah, I'd say so. Does he give every indication that he does not belong in the WWE in everything he does or tries to do? Yes.

And yet, he manages to remain and this probably is the most annoying quality about him. It's one of the many qualities he has that gathers heat. In that, I'd say he's doing his job. Doesn't mean I personally like to watch/listen to him. I don't and the only joy I get out of seeing that pouting little twit is when somebody beats the crap out of him (which is happening more often now, much to my relief.) But the only thing that makes that satisfying is the garbage he spews and the stupidity he enacts leading up to such satisfying moments.

 

[Honkey_Kong]

I think people give Michael Cole a lot of shit. I bet most people would make a shitload of errors with some asshole screaming at them on their headset while they're talking. Sure Cole isn't the best play-by-play guy, but the guy is damn good at generating heat.

I think Cole would be best as a colour guy with Joey Styles on play-by-play. And to relieve stress you could have an idiot like Booker T as a third wheel in the announcing table. Cole could belittle him for being stupid throughout the show.

 

[ttdg]

Like Honkey Kong said, its a hard job to pay attention to the match and not make mistakes with someone screaming in your ears.

Also, did anyone ever think he's making mistakes on purpose, ya know, to get heat? If so, I'd say he's doing his job.

 

[Hazardous]

Seriously, Cole coming out to King of Kings, and doing the HHH entrance cracked me up. that was pretty funny.
He's not great at the table, but he isn't horrible either. At least you can hear what he is saying, unlike Booker. He actually has emotion, unlike Mathews. And he doesn't bore you with facts, like Striker.

 

[greygoose67]

All WWE announcers need to do what theyre supposed to do. ANNOUNCE the damn match! Im so happy JR is back because he atleast knows and will call moves what they clearly are and wont just put over wrestlers by saying the same thing week in, week out. I would love to NOT hear, even though I am a fan, Miz is the most must see WWE champion in history. Miz was champ for 5 and half months and everyone hated him. Now that Cole is on his bandwagon hes getting some of the bigger pops currently.

Side note: WWE needs to stop hiring people who just have a broadcasting background and atleast get people who are fans aswell. Fast forward to about 4:42 and listen to what Scott Stanford tries to call this move, only to have Punk correct him and Stanford saying he "misspoke"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT3IrseOOVw

 

[d_henderson1810]

Are you watching the same show I am? Oh wait, no your not. Your watching half the show I am...

Let me put it to you this way? When was the last time Booker T called something wrong during a match. Actually he never really has apart from once or twice. By your logic Booker T is a better Announcer than Michael Cole...

Here's another thing? If Michael Cole is so bad, why is he on two shows? Even better! Why was he specifically picked to be the third guy on Smackdown? They could've easily gone to JR but they didn't. They chose Michael Cole.

I'm probably feeding a Troll with this but honestly I don't care. Michael Cole has been great. His character was falling flat and with JR, he's now got some fresh meat.

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Michael Cole is on two shows because he is a Vince mark! Unlike JR, who actually does things his own way, and is humiliated by Vince McMahon constantly, Micheal Cole does whatever he is told, so he is rewarded for his loyalty.

You know, maybe the OP is harsh on Cole. Because, think about it. The commentators are fed what they have to say at the Gorilla Position by Vince himself. Someone like Michael Cole is probably being told, word-for-word, what to say (considering that Vince is so paranoid about one word of a promo being out of place, and being so pedantic as to have "Raw" re-written an hour before filming). So maybe Cole is only saying what he is told to say.

Besides, I think Cole should staop commentating. Why? Because it is silly to make him a massive heel, have him feud with Jerry Lawler, then sit next to him and commentate. I was sure that after his feud with Lawler was over, that Cole would reveal the true identity of the anonymous GM. It would actually be Michael Cole himself. Then I thought that he would be on-screen Raw GM, and would promote people like the Miz, while keeping people he didn't like down. I'm not saying this because of his commentary, but because he makes a good heel character, and I feel that they could take him in a whole new direction as an evil authority figure (like the new Mr McMahon).

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Cole's character is that of a dipshit kiss ass. If he knew the name of every move it wouldn't make sense would it? Sure Cole the person probably doesn't actually know the names of the moves either, but it fits his character.

I really don't see the problem. He's a heel commentator and his character fits how he calls a match. I think this is more just bitching to bitch. He's very over as a heel.

I actually dislike JR more than I dislike Cole. Especially when Stone Cold is around. JR is like John Madden. A parody of himself and when his mancrush is around it's unbareable.

 

[PWrath]

Here's the problem with Michael Cole:

1. The main issue is that he is too much of the focal point on both shows, to the point of being a distraction from the WWE Superstars. The Superstars/Divas, as WWE prefers to refer to them as, are who people tune in to see, not a guy doing commentary and taking up ring time from the likes of Zach Ryder & others who are "wrestlers". Announcers have their role, but I rather see less-used guys get something to do from creative or otherwise developed so they can be on TV instead of us tuning in to watch "RAW is Cole".

2. It is well established that WWE "Brass" isn't interested in having a match called like a football game is called. The announcers are there to help tell the story (storyline). I enjoyed hearing Gordon Solie use the term, "solar plexis" during the 80's when calling a guy getting punched or kicked in the stomach. But, I accept WWE's approach of commentary on how they want Lawler, Booker, Cole, et al. to help tell the story, notwithstanding the obvious play-by-play foul-up's, if you will.

 

[highrishman420]

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Michael Cole is on two shows because he is a Vince mark! Unlike JR, who actually does things his own way, and is humiliated by Vince McMahon constantly, Micheal Cole does whatever he is told, so he is rewarded for his loyalty.

You know, maybe the OP is harsh on Cole. Because, think about it. The commentators are fed what they have to say at the Gorilla Position by Vince himself. Someone like Michael Cole is probably being told, word-for-word, what to say (considering that Vince is so paranoid about one word of a promo being out of place, and being so pedantic as to have "Raw" re-written an hour before filming). So maybe Cole is only saying what he is told to say.

Besides, I think Cole should staop commentating. Why? Because it is silly to make him a massive heel, have him feud with Jerry Lawler, then sit next to him and commentate. I was sure that after his feud with Lawler was over, that Cole would reveal the true identity of the anonymous GM. It would actually be Michael Cole himself. Then I thought that he would be on-screen Raw GM, and would promote people like the Miz, while keeping people he didn't like down. I'm not saying this because of his commentary, but because he makes a good heel character, and I feel that they could take him in a whole new direction as an evil authority figure (like the new Mr McMahon).

See what I think is funny, is that you say all of this as if it is fact. You only know about Cole and Vince McMahon from what you have read on the internet. That does not make it fact.

Michal Cole obviously is a successful commentator. Or else he wouldn't be on the dang show. Apparently everyone complaining can handle the WWE business better than McMahon himself. Geeze, why doesn't McMahon just hand the WWE over to the IWC already?

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Didn't you hear highrishman420? d_henderson1810 is secretly a pro wrestler in the WWE who knows everyone personally. I mean, Vince really is a control freak. Most highly successful people don't give a shit and let everyone else run their company for them. Vince is weird though, he wants every little bit of his billion dollar company to be perfect. Anything the internet says about him is true too.

As for Michael Cole, sure he was a mega over heel, sure he paid his dues, sure he was the most recognizeable voice other than JR and a decent choice to be the next guy when JR left because of how old JR was. Who cares though, he's only where he is because he kisses ass.


Goddamn people are stupid. If there's one thing I hate the IWC for most is a lack of critical thinking. There is a general consensus and then a bunch of parrots. I want to make a IWC logic tree. It'd start with an "event" then you ask "does the said event involve a net darling or a net nemesis?" if it's a net darling, it was the greatest thing ever, if it was a net nemesis then it sucked a dick and was only on TV, regardless of how over it was, because someone kissed someone else's ass. How to tell a net darling? He has to fit one of these qualifications: not over in any way, does a million moves, is small, was in a big indy promotion for a while. How to tell a net nemesis? He has to fit one of these qualifications: didn't start out in wrestling (this means he doesn't love it even if it was his lifelong dream and there are videos of him as a kid doing promos), he has a body-builder's physique (this means he isn't athletic and/or technically skilled), he is massively over and popular with the mainstream audience and presents a good company image (this means he's a kiss ass and does what the boss tells him too instead of being the unprofessional prick he should be by doing what he wants).

I probably got off topic there, but it's insane how many posts you could literally change out for others and you would think the same person was talking. THINK FOR YOUR SELVES!!!!

 

[nxtgeneration]

as much as i understand where your coming from, but the majority of wwe fans dont know and dont care what the difference is between a head scissors and a hurricarana. notice i said wwe - this is pure wrestling like say ring of honour, this is ENTERTAINMENT. cole is entertaining.