**MERGED** Royal Rumble 2013 & Aftermath Discussion (Keep it in here!!!!)

Which Would You Like?

  • CM Punk vs. The Rock

  • John Cena vs. The Rock

  • Not Sure: It's Too Early To Decide


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I love it, and i could see it set up Brock vs Rock, maybe have the WWE championship main event the PPV and have Brock win the rumble and at the end of the show have Brock come out and get face to face with the rock? I think that would be pretty damn memorable.
 
It's nice to see a legend like The Rock return for a match.. Again.

WWE wants to keep the belt on people longer now, so its safe to say that by the Rumble, the title may change hands once. Even then, its safe to assume that there will not be any revolutionary new champions holding the belt for the next 6 months because to have The Rock face someone like Ziggler will not sell. So it is very likely that either Cena, Punk and maybe Bryan will be in the picture. The way WWE is going, I don't see them pushing anyone new by means of The Rock putting "him" over at the Rumble.

It was already said and I smell Cena being all over this as he doesn't need to prove anything and is in his veteran ages. Bottom line, this will be a predictable incident with no surprises. Once we see The Rock in the ring with whoever the champ is, then we will realize why we arent too excited for some reason. That reason is that it's all not a big deal with no new blood developing in the company and another year of the same ol'-same ol'.

I also want to add that it is a waste to have someone who is already established win a Rumble match. It's an opportunity to push talent over, those who deserve it. To have Cena or Brock win the Rumble now mean 2013 will be full of the same stuff we saw in 2012.
 
The only returning legend that is worthy of getting a title shot is Jericho. Hes returned and stayed for 8 months, hes PPV'ed, Done RAW's, Smackdowns, House Shows, International tours and hes done whats been asked of him, He has put talent over, CLEANLY! HHH cant even sell for a fkn UFC champion and Rock wont job to Cena even though Hogan did it for him.

Its infuriating.
 
what i find funny is they give a poll of who you would like to see The Rock face - Cena, Punk or Big Show. Big Show? did i doze off somewhere when Big Show came out to face Rocky? i understand they are trying to push the Big Show again but come one, enough already. they might as well have thrown Ryder or Santino into it. personally, i think Rock vs Bryan could be interesting but i don't see any way for the Rock to win and keep Bryan strong other than cheating and being the heel for Mania match. people are just so behind Bryan that if he was to lose to the Rock, it would be like Mania and people would just love him more.
 
I agree with Grandsword. I said to my wife when Rock announced it that Rock would win then Cena would win Royal Rumble. Rock/Cena 2 at Mania with Cena winning the title. I can see why some people wouldn't like this, but it seemed inevitable that Cena would beat The Rock at some point. Rock keeps his promise to win title, and Cena gets his revenge on The Rock for the last 2 Manias.
 
I called it on here a few weeks ago. Rock would challenge for the Title at The Rumble and be our WWE Champion for the RTWM. High ratings = more PPV buys.

Rock will defend at WM29 against Cena. Cena will get his revenge and that will be 1-1 in the series. This is Rocks 'thank you' to Cena for putting him over in Miami.

Cena doesnt have to win the Rumble either. That can be Brock Lesnar and in a MAJOR SWERVE Brock can say he wants a shot at The Deadman. Have Brock eliminate cena last to 'right his wrongs' from Extreme Rules.
 
As I was reading through forums on here something came to me in my mind. We have all been complaining how John Cena matches are ALWAYS top billing ahead of title matches, well with The Rock coming back at the Royal Rumble could we potentially see his match AFTER the Rumble match itself?
 
As I was reading through forums on here something came to me in my mind. We have all been complaining how John Cena matches are ALWAYS top billing ahead of title matches, well with The Rock coming back at the Royal Rumble could we potentially see his match AFTER the Rumble match itself?

WWE is stuck in a predicament with this. They know that if they have the WWE title match before the Rumble match itself, if Rock wins, we'll know Cena will win the Rumble. On the flip side, if they do the Rumble first and Cena wins, we'll know The Rock wins the belt. They're going to have to have someone other than Cena win the Royal Rumble to "suprise" us.
 
The way i see it, there are three major options. Since we heard that the rock will battle for the wwe title at royal rumble, they arent gonna have an up and comer win it, this year, it will be someone from raw. And everything depends on rock, cena, lesnar, and undertaker.

Option 1- Brock Lesnar. Have brock lesnar challenge the rock at wrestlemania for the belt, with cena and taker goin at it.

Option 2- John cena. Cena win the rumble, for the second time, and challenges the rock at wrestlemania, because he wants to redeem himself for wmania 28.

Option 3- The Rock. The rock fails to win the wwe title, but then comes out for the royal rumble and wins it.

Anyway it goes, it looks like the rock will be in the wwe title picture at and going into wrestlemania. I think it will be john cena who wins. Either way, wrestlemania 29 looks pretty good right now.
 
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Haven't seen this yet.. but if already exists I apologize.

So The Rock's strollin into the Royal Rumble on January 27th with a WWE Championship match and hopes of becoming a 10 time World Champion. If you ask this viewer, the chances of Rocky winning the title are about 99.99%.. unless they go for the swerve and have someone cost him and have him face them and Mania and so on and so forth. But if he wins or whether you even want him to win isn't the question here. The questions be..

1. Who do you THINK he will challenge at the Royal Rumble?
2. Who do you WANT to see him challenge at the Royal Rumble?



Now what I'm thinkin.. is he'll challenge CM Punk and attempt to end a title reign that by that point will have reached 434 days (62 weeks). If so, I think he then goes on and loses the title to John Cena at WrestleMania, meaning Cena would be the champion again for the first time since losing the title to Alberto Del Rio on October 2nd, 2011.. a gap of 553 days (79 weeks). Lotta big numbers here!

Statistics aside..

Personally.. I WANT to see him roll into Phoenix that night and do battle with BROCK LESNAR! A fight of epic proportions and a rematch over 10 years in the making. Don't care how Brock gets the title. Don't care that Brock then The Rock being champion would be two people not on full time television. I want this match darn it.



So.. who you got?
 
Honestly I think he will end up facing Cena or Punk at this point.. and whichever one he doesn't face at the rumble will most likely be his Wrestlemania opponent.. and I don't really know who I would like the rock to face personally... I would love to see Rock vs Punk/Brock at Wrestlemania mostly... and whoever doesn't face him at Wrestlemania should face him at Rumble.. which I would really hope for Rock vs Punk and Taker vs Lesner
 
It's gotta be Punk. If it's not, I might have to start saying that ol' WWE is starting to look a lot like 2001 episodes of Monday Nitro. Hot shot bumble fuck angle city, where we'll build a program around Big Johnny for months, forgetting we had an Anon GM, even stack up a convincing enough stable with Eve and Otunga. Only to drop him cold turkey and give that whole program the boot, a few weeks of Grab Bag GM where we learn Hornswaggle was #Anon #LOL #RT, and now a hot girl is our GM because she had a couple of good promos.

And don't get me wrong. I like what AJ's been doing ever since her and Bryan first got together. I like a whole lot more of the WWE product now days than I don't like. What I don't like is the slapdash hot shot angles all over the place, like Vince is still trying to beat Turner.

Yet through this all, the bright shining glimmer of hope has been CM Punk. Sure, his program with Jericho was a train wreck and a half of uncomfortable television that nobody was interested in seeing. But the matches were great. And then the weeks of Punk vs. Henry? Stellar matches that told a great story, Jericho was actually getting in to the head of CM Punk, when he needed to focus on the World's Strongest Man giving him a hell of beating. Only for Punk to Rise Above the Hate and put Y2J away clean. And the longer his reign has went on, the more stock it puts in that belt. It needs it. He needs it. His opponents need it.

If HHH - Taker was the end of an era, then the whole damn WWE needs it for the next era of Wrestlemania.

And the way you do that is you keep that belt on Punk like he's the weird tattooed son who doesn't use drugs that we all knew the Leave It to Beaver nice guy like Bob Backlund would create. No bullshit. No hot potato. No TNA PPV style run ins where half the locker room empties out to give Punk the DQ title save because everyone is feuding in some wired circle jerk over on Impact Wrestling. No, you keep that belt firmly around his waist, and you keep it clean and decisive. Keep turning out solid title defenses like he has against Jericho, Daniels, and Henry. Have Rocky chime in every now and again like he did for Cena, keep it at a simmer.

Until people start having serious conversations about weight, and prestige, and main events. And about what gets to close the Rumble? The Royal Rumble match, as has almost always has? Or have we again created a match of a caliber so grand that it could even be discussed in whispers to unseat it? People start really wondering who is going to head in to Wrestlemania as the champion? The Rock, because they said they'd give him a big pay day at Mania against another big opponent, but he said only for the belt? Or will it stay on Punk, because this reign in length would by then have already entered in to the realm of legend.

It has to be Punk, and it has to be a now and still reigning Punk. No interruptions. Besides, there's already shots fired by Punk, and as far as we know Rock won't be back to answer them until the Rumble. Rolling through the doors the day of the Rumble with his sunglasses on, chewing bubble gum, asking who the champion is and when the match starts.

Besides, I've already seen A Rock v. B Rock. Summerslam 2002. That's old news now.
 
Who do you THINK he will challenge at the Royal Rumble?

It's anyones guess but I'm pretty sure he'll end up going against Cena. Yes Cena lost to him last year but the thing is Cena is not the Hogan/Stone Cold type. He's a guy like Orton/Kane/Rey/Maybe Punk who has no trouble putting people over (if creative lets him do that) I see him getting the upperhand over Rock and just when he's about to win, cena's WM opponent costs him the match. Rock wins and headlines Mania with either UT/Brock etc. But I seriously don't think WWE has decided who the Rock is gonna face yet. It wont be till December till creative decide on the opponent. If CM punk picks us steam again - expect a Punk v Rock match. Or it could be someone else like Brock or Orton. And NO there's no way they're gonna pit Rock against a up comer like Ziggler. Rock is too big for that.

Who do you WANT to see him challenge at the Royal Rumble?

Randy Orton - I remember when they had an awesome inring segment with Rock saying how he met a young Randy and how his family has always whooped Orton's family's asses. two 3G wrestlers going at each other with both in their prime and Orton (provided he doesnt screw up again) being the #2 guy behind Cena. And for a guy who has put over Rhodes, Barrett, Henry, Kane, Ziggler, Miz - I don't think he'll have a problem putting over a much bigger superstar than him. It would also be awesome if we can have a Legend v legendkiller match for one night only.

Brock Lesnar - Rock lost the WWE to Lesnar in SS 2002 so there's no better way than to win from Lesnar the WWE championship. But given Lesnar's limited dates, there's no way he's gonna be champ.
 
I know a lot of people have guessed The Rock vs Brock Lesnar if happened would be at Wrestlemania but why not give the fans something they want for Royal Rumble? This would allow the match to happen and still let them face whomever down the road at Wrestlemania. Let CM Punk carry the title for a while longer and then have him drop it to Cena. Leading into a three way feud with Brock Lesnar, CM Punk, and John Cena. Punk would form an alliance with Brock Lesnar and Paul Heyman. Punk lays down for Lesnar. From there have Brock as champion. Paul Heyman insures Punk he will help him win the Royal Rumble so both Brock and Punk can headline Wrestlemania. Cena still trying to win back the WWE championship. Brock Lesnar loses the title to The Rock. The Royal Rumble comes down to John Cena and CM Punk. Some how Cena over comes the odds and wins. Wrestlemania being John Cena vs The Rock in a rematch. Then from there some how setup Brock Lesnar vs Undertaker and CM Punk vs whoever.
 
Leading into a three way feud with Brock Lesnar, CM Punk, and John Cena. Punk would form an alliance with Brock Lesnar and Paul Heyman.


Everybody wants that Punk/Lesnar/Heyman stable, but it's not going to happen. We should be thankful that they were all smart enough to make money together in this program with Lesnar and Heyman so far, but that's as far as the current paperwork goes.

Don't forget the fresh round of McMahon delivered on live TV revisionist history on #RAW1000 that Paul had to eat in the middle of the ring. Heyman is an accessory to Lesnar. They're both drawing some checks, and then they're gone.

See? This is fun again, to have this conversation. It's fun again, just like Punk said it would be. And that's why it still has to be Punk going in to the Rumble, still your WWE Champion.
 
personally, i see it being Rock vs Cena at the rumble, then Rock vs Punk at mania.. perhaps, if nothing happens with Austin, which i doubt will happen - then taker vs either brock/cena.

otherwise, the last 5 manias will have had 6 repeat matches - taker michaels, taker hunter, rock cena.
 
Guaranteed to be CM Punk. They started the ball rollin at Raw 1000 for an eventual match. The only logical reason we have for Punk turning heel is to fued with The Rock. They will not have another face vs face feud involving The Rock and Punk with his brilliant promo and honest approach will surely be solid gold. Punk will be pissed for being an afterthought at Wrestlemania to Dwayne returning, he will be pissed that Rock already has a guaranteed title shot when he had to work his ass off for years on the independant scene etc to get where he is,. It will be a perfect feud between the guy who was brought up in the business vs a guy who worked his tail to the bone to rise to the top. It looks pretty evident that Punk will retain at Summerslam againt Cena, then probably drop the WWE Title to Cena at Night of Champions, whicvh happens to be in Boston, Cenas home town. Punk will regain the belt at Survivor Series, possibly involving The Rock running in to lead to their two month build up to Royal Rumble. Cena vs Rock 2 at Royal Rumble just wont happen, especially as now Punk has turned heel, Cena wont be. I am sure The Rock will go over at Royal Rumble, and I see WWE pulling a red herring and having Punk win the Royal Rumble match later in the card to challenge Rock. John Cena will be pushed into a feud more than likely with Undertaker, or possibly a triple threat with Rock and Punk. They wont have Brock Lesnar, a heel, take the WWE title off Punk in the latter half of the year,.
 
On Raw 1,000, The Rock announced that he would face whomever the WWE Champion is at the 2013 Royal Rumble for the WWE Championship. Since this past Monday on Raw, the WWE has started down the road towards another feud between John Cena and CM Punk. Big Show is involved right now as sort of a buffer, making it a three way feud at the moment, and the three have a match for the title at SummerSlam.

According to the latest reports, allegedly, the WWE wants to downplay Rock's upcoming title match so as not to take away from the current programs going on. Also allegedly, the idea is to really kick in hype for the title match after Survivor Series, which takes place on November 18th this year.

We all know the history between John Cena and The Rock, so the renewal of their feud won't take much effort at all. On Raw 1,000, however, CM Punk began what looks like a slow heel turn by delivering a clothesline to Rock and delivering the GTS. Couple that with Punk's recent Raw promo, the WWE is building the possibility of going with Punk vs. Rock instead.

So which would you prefer to see go down?

Personally, I'd rather see Punk and The Rock go at it. Not that Cena vs. Rock wasn't a great match that didn't live up to the hype, but I don't think it'll have quite the same "magical" feeling as their first match. Also, allegedly, it's being reported that The Rock might not be able to wrestle at WrestleMania 29 due to obligations surrounding the release of the upcoming G.I. Joe movie. The movie opens a week before WM, which means the hype & promotion of the movie will only be intensified and The Rock will have to be part of that. That means he'll probably be traveling all over the country and even out of the country promoting the movie at premieres, doing interviews on television & radio, etc.

Again, personally, I almost hope that it turns out that way because I'm not all that wild about the notion of Punk dropping the title to The Rock just so Rock can have a vanity reign with the WWE Championship. Also, Rock winning the title at RR, whether it's against Punk or Cena, all but gives away the ending to the WWE Championship match at WM with Rock dropping the title to whomever challenges him. Punk could deliver an awesome match against The Rock and a win over The Rock could truly cement Punk's star power. In the aftermath of the match, I could see WWE doing a storyline in which Cena somehow seeks "redemption" in a way at WrestleMania in defeating Punk for the title. After all, if Punk defeats The Rock, he'll have done the one thing that Cena has never done in his entire career. By that time, Punk would have been WWE Champion for almost 1.5 years. We all know that Cena will get another run, that's just how it is. It might just be pure fantasy booking on my part, I understand that. For me, however, it looks like a way for everyone to win. The Rock gets to do his thing while promoting his movie, WWE gets further exposure from The Rock & pretty much guaranteed ppv buys, CM Punk gets a huge rub by going over The Rock and Cena beats Punk at WM to regain his spot at the "top of the mountain" where he hasn't been in a very long time.
 
Absolutely would prefer CM Punk vs. The Rock. It would be something new and interesting for both men. These two have the charisma and mic work to carry such a compelling feud if this is the match they decide to go with heading into the Royal Rumble.

With Cena vs. Rock there was so much Rock could mock and make fun of about Cena, his appeal to kids, his vibrantly colored "fruity pebble" shirts, some of his slogans, what he stood for, etc. I really don't know how Rock's comedy shtick could work on CM Punk. So maybe they go for a more serious route with Rock's character in this feud. I mean he was blindsided with an attack by Punk that he didn't see coming and obviously thats not going to sit well with The Great One.

We're all just awaiting for his return come January seemingly to put Punk in his place right? But then again everything Punk said about "Dwayne" is true and that despite being a successful movie star that shouldn't allow you to place yourself in title matches at marquee events. Punk's point is that these shots need to be earned and technically speaking Rock didn't earn anything. Punk is sick of him and his championship playing second fiddle to The Rock and Cena show and that is where this bitter turn for Punk all stems from.

And when Rock gets back, he is going to be angry, vengeful and determined to make good word on his vow to all the "people" that he will be their WWE Champion. And the war of words while I'm not sure what the content will be for the both of them that makes all the more intriguing. The mic work between the two heading into this big title match is what everyone is excited to see unfold.

As for the match itself it'll be decent but what's big about is that CM Punk getting to compete against one of the business's all time biggest stars in The Rock at one of WWE's most important pay-per-views Royal Rumble would be quite a career jumping move for him, even in loss the rub from competing against The Rock in a hard fought match for the title would do wonders for Punk and since everyone would expect him to lose, a swerve in having him keep the title would perhaps send him to superstardom.
 
Personally, while I know it's not an option, I choose neither. I don't want Punk wasted in a subpar match with a guy who's gassed in 2 minutes. If I want that, we can just book him against Vader. I'd much rather wait for Punk/Austin, because Austin won't lace the boots unless he's sure he can go.

I'd rather see Miz vs Rock at the RR. There is a backstory, Miz could use the rub more than Punk, and it frees Punk to have a classic spot elsewhere on the card. A close loss to the Rock would legitimize Miz in a way even beating Cena didn't and the Miz is looking more and more like on of the few guys who actually have "it" on the roster. He can talk, his new look is working well, he's surprised me by having a few decent matches, and most importantly he draws a reaction.

I just think wasting the Rock on a guy who's already established in Punk just isn't a good idea. Punk was the #1 merch mover at one point, has held the title for quite a while, what else does he need? Since losing the belt to Cena, Miz has become a glorified midcarder which is a waste of all the time and effort they put into him.
 
I would like to see Cena vs Rock happen at the Rumble and have Punk vs. Cena @ WrestleMania. I wasn't all that impressed with Cena-Rock I and a thought of Cena-Rock II at Mania again just doesn't interest me. I dislike the idea of The Rock in a WWE Championship Match. If he would be there every week and wrestle at PPV's it would be one thing, but I am willing to be he wins the title at RR and then shows up the next night to be informed of who his challenger will be. Then for the next 8+ weeks we will have "backstage segments", "live via satelitte", or pretaped segments for most of the Raws leading up to Mania. I think it would degrade the title that Punk has attempted to restore for the past 8+ months.
 
If those are the only choices, then i guess i would like to see CM Punk vs The Rock, it's just that i don't like the Rock, and the fact that he's back and all of a sudden he gets a title shot? That's the part i hate, but the reason i picked up CM Punk to face him, because of the pipe bomb promos Punk will deliver, he would definitly burn the Rock, unlike Cena, CM Punk will not hold anything back, i just want him to humiliate the Rock, hopefully him mic doesn't get shut off this time........
 
I much rather see Punk Vs Rock! Rock Vs Cena was great very well done and the match lived up to the hype IMO!! What happened at Raw 1000 i didnt see coming at all. Rock announcing he will challenge for the title at RR and punk doing what he did was just spellbinding.

This is where is gets hazy though for me. I agree with Punk 100% first and foremost the rock disrespected punk while punk was in the ring. Punk is also correct that the rock yet once again wanted to make the show all about him. All about Dewayne Johnson and punk just leveled him out! The rock shouldn't be in a marquee matchup whenever he feels like it. Thats where Punk is correct.

The rock will not be able to cut down Punk on the mic like he did with cena. Punk will not fall for it at all. But that being said later on the mic work between these two will be epic. I cant wait for it and if punk loses the title in a hardfought fashion that will propel punk in his career. Imagine if punk retains his title WOW.
 
I'd rather see Punk vs Rock at RR because Rock is going to win and drop the title to Cena at WM. It's the most logical choice because Cena needs redemption at WM. I think it's going to be Cena vs Punk switching the title for the rest of the year with Punk going in the PPV as champion. Cena will win the RR challenge the man who cost him the title at WM27 and the man he couldn't beat at WM28 after a year long build up.

Punk vs Rock at RR sounds good just the thought of a Punk worked shoot on Dwayne is just too appealing, the match should be good I see Rock winning by countering the GTS into a Rock Bottom.
 
Punk vs Rock by a landslide for me. Oh the promos these 2 would produce. Awesomeness. We've seen Cena vs Rock already and to me it really didn't live up to the hype. I want something different is all.
 

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