**Merged** Daniel Bryan Discussion

[UndisputedChump]

Oh wow, you started posting here? I remember you from Bloop, years ago.

Anyway, you're not really giving DBBD a chance, here. You've seen the explosive personality when he went after both Michael Cole and the Miz, during NXT1. It's not like he's incapable of having a personality. My guess is, they're giving him a "generic wrestling personality #72" and seeing where his mat skills will take him.

Anonymous, you hit the nail with the personality of Bryan's gimmick. Anyone ripping on him for being bland needs to realize that the whole generic look seems to have booking all over it. Cole ripping on him and the whole gimmick seems to reflect on the WWE's perception on the independent scene, or the "minor leagues" as Cole likes to call it, typically guys who work more on their ring work and not enough emphasis on personality and promos.

The problem with that is, nobody is paying attention.

I missed the PPV, but from what my friend told me and what everyone said, the match seemed to be pretty good, and my friend said that Bryan had a good reaction. Plus, throughout season 1 of NXT he was the only one with the storyline and even had Cole ripping on him every minute he was seen there and on Raw. Unless someone muted the tv, or constantly changed the channel, it would be hard to not pay attention.

Having him lose every single match he was in during NXT1 made him appear weak,

Don't forget at 1 point when he was winless, he was ranked 1st by the pros amongst the other rookies. If he was ranked 1st without any wins, then I would hardly say that he was booked at being weak. Plus, the losing streak was also used to help the heel turn for Michael Cole as Bryan was his prime target, by ripping him after every loss.

and now he looks like someone who can just barely beat The Miz, if he really, really, REALLY tried. He just doesn't look like the threat he was made out to be during his feud with Michael Cole.

Well, here's the thing, there was just a report that Miz lost the title because they needed to free him from it to focus on the MITB case and have a better chance of going into the main event, and to make Bryan look good. The full report is here: http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/art...ge-news-on-the-miz-losing-the-us-title-112209. With WWE wanting Miz to go into the main event, Bryan doesn't look weak by barely beating Miz. Bryan gets a push, while Miz still has credibility to be in the Main Event. I don't think HHH lost any credibility when he lost to Shelton Benjamin right after the WWE split the World's Greatest Tag Team.

He just doesn't look like the threat he was made out to be during his feud with Michael Cole.

Actually, when he returned, Miz and Riley were beating on him, then around the time Miz revealed himself on the cover of WWE magazine, Bryan outwitted them, and put both Miz and Riley in the LeBell Lock multiple times at the end of the build up towards the PPV. By letting Bryan do that, the bookers were making him look like a threat.

The fact that they're letting him use the cross-face finisher isn't going to help with his bad-ass-improvement plan, seeing as the WWE has erased Chris Benoit from history.

I think the fact that they're letting him use it might be more of an inside joke as to why they released him from the contract after NXT, since the tie choking incident reminded them a little too much of Benoit. Plus, Bryan is more of a submission specialist, all it does is add 1 more move to his set. I doubt adding another move is interfering with his improvement.

 

[Branden]

Looks like Daniel Bryan has beaten the Miz and won his first WWE title...

How long do you think he'll hold it and who would you like to see him fued with next?

Is the US title more important the the IC title?

I hope they drop the feud between him and Miz right away. We saw it on NXT already. Miz needs to focus on using that MITB contract and a storyline revolving around that.

I'd like to see Daniel Bryan feud with Nexus. Him vs his old NXT competitors could end up being something fairly interesting. Bryan/Slater or Bryan/Gabriel imparticular.

And I think any title on RAW is more important than its opposite on Smackdown. RAW is the flagship show, so when the US title and the IC title change shows it seems like they change importance. I had always thought the IC was more important, just because of tradition and prestiege, but on Smackdown it seems to have lost some of that.

 

[daniel bryan mark]

YES!!! YES!!! YES!!!

I marked out big time! That was match of the night. The Miz impressed me, but it was all about Daniel Bryan. The crowd reactions he got were crazy. I want to see Bryan/Bourne or Bryan/Morrison.

Now, the US Title can be defended and the Miz can focus on the MITB.

 

[SpoodBeest]

By far my favorite match and moment from last night's show. First off this was probably The Miz's best pay-per-view match to date and I thought the two worked very well together. Bryan showed us just how silky smooth he can be when it comes to his performances in the ring. The match had a great flow, the crowd was into it, and enjoyed every minute of it. I thought it was better than the main event and was definitely match of the night.

Now the reason this is such a good move is because finally the US title is off of The Miz's waist. For the longest time I could not understand why he was champion, and when he won it back so fast from R-Truth I really couldn't imagine why they had him win it back so quickly. I now understand it was too develop this feud but both of The Miz's US title reigns always had him put little to no attention on his mid-card belt so now that Bryan has the title maybe it will actually be defended on a regular basis *gasp*. I would like to see another reign similar to Kofi Kingston's reign with it last year as he defended pretty well on a weekly basis and the title being in the spotlight on regular basis will do the mid-card a lot of good. Also The Miz is now set to take his steps up toward the top of the card. This is truly a win-win scenario for all involved

 

[AlwaysHasBeen]

I'm trying to like this guy, I am. But week by week it just seems like there are more things holding me back from enjoying his presence in the WWE.

One thing that bothers me the most is how he always looks like he's suppressing laughter...I thought Shelton Benjamin had it bad.

Second, he doesn't sell moves particularly well. By this I mean for someone his size (smaller than most WWE superstars).

Third, he's lanky in the ring and although I know he has an impressive move repertoire, he's not very impactful in ring.

I've never heard him cut a decent promo, especially seeing that he's supposed to be a face and an underdog face at that, he is horrible at working a crowd.

So...is it me? Is it WWE? Is it Bryan?

PS. If he had any say in his theme music (that debuted on RAW tonight) then add that to my list.

 

[I_got_bant_for_idiocy]

i agree this guy is sooooo dammmmn overrated.. "the guys a goof, the guys a nerd hes a vegan he doesnt own a tv set does he realize hes in the entertainment business, hes on television but he doesnt own one" micheal cole hahah n his promo with edge tonite was sooo stupid n hopeless... THE US belt has lost alll its prestige by giving it to this guy

 

[Joe's Gonna Kill You]

Daniel Bryan is definitely not overrated as he is one of the best wrestlers in world and he definitely has no problem selling moves as he did a excellent job yesterday selling MIZ offense He is not overrated and he deserves the praise he gets.

 

[hatehabsforever]

I'm trying to like this guy, I am. But week by week it just seems like there are more things holding me back from enjoying his presence in the WWE.

One thing that bothers me the most is how he always looks like he's suppressing laughter...I thought Shelton Benjamin had it bad.

Second, he doesn't sell moves particularly well. By this I mean for someone his size (smaller than most WWE superstars).

Third, he's lanky in the ring and although I know he has an impressive move repertoire, he's not very impactful in ring.

I've never heard him cut a decent promo, especially seeing that he's supposed to be a face and an underdog face at that, he is horrible at working a crowd.

So...is it me? Is it WWE? Is it Bryan?

PS. If he had any say in his theme music (that debuted on RAW tonight) then add that to my list.

With all due respect, I think it's you. It isn't Daniel Bryan. It isn't WWE. it's all you.

I think he looks like he's suppressing laughter because he probably is. The way Cole constantly berates him (kayfabe) must really amuse him. The fact that with his history, with his legacy in the indies, he is portrayed as a newbie, an upstart, an underdog, while in all likelihood, he is better than pretty much any of the guys he has been interacting with since arriving in NXT or WWE.

Doesn't sell his moves well? Did you see last night's PPV? The way he sold his arm injury was absolutely stellar. I was really starting to believe that he had injured his arm for real. I agree with you that he's quite small by WWE standards. I think he has shown a tremendous ability to withstand a lot of "punishment" for this reason, and sell it extremely well. Look at how well he sold his injuries after being beat down by the Miz and Riley tonight.

I don't even understand your point about the third paragraph. Not very impactful? He's shown himself to be a tremendous submissions wrestler with a diverse repertoire. And he's just getting started in the WWE. Give him some time to prove himself in the WWE ring before you dismiss his abilities and talents in the ring.

He hasn't really had an opportunity to cut an effective promo, yet. Again give him time. Thus far I find his mic skills to be better than I anticipated. And they'll get better. Horrible at working a crowd? Did you hear the pop tonight when he came out for his match with Edge?

With regards to the theme music, I have to agree with you here, I can only assume that was some sort of a joke.

 

[TheProfessional]

Yeah, while everyone is Entitled to their own opinion...
How can you say the Guy doesn't know how to Sell Moves!

After his match last night with Miz, he continued to hold his Arm in Pain, in during his Victory.
For a moment I thought he had Legitimately injured it.

 

[MattyBoy30]

I'm so sick and tired of The Miz abusing Daniel Bryan, trying to think he is some big man. And after the sickening beating he gave to Daneil tonight, its a wonder the guy is still employed. I was so very happy that Daniel beat Mizery last night, and the way he made Miz tap out was beautiful ~ its about time someone brought Miz down off of his pedestal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rammsteinerteen]

The man can't cut a decent promo? I enjoyed his promo with Michael Cole on NXT, Daniel Bryan was great. Same goes with his promo with The Miz. Daniel Bryan sells well, it actually looks like he's injured. He's awesome, he's great in the ring. He's new, he's different, Sheamus and Wade Barrett is same old same. Daniel Bryan is what WWE needs. The man has came from ROH, he was there for seven years. Please watch his match with KENTA, Paul London, Takeshi Morishima, or Nigel McGuiness. You'll see why he has no flaws while wrestling his matches. The man is great, I'm glad he's in WWE, we need technicals in WWE like Daniel Bryan or Puro Styles like Kaval.

 

[Heartachetonight926]

I've never heard him cut a decent promo, especially seeing that he's supposed to be a face and an underdog face at that, he is horrible at working a crowd.

Never cut a decent promo? don't make me laugh.....

Check it out- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PLOW6EsN0E

This guy is not Stone cold on the mic, but he's something different and in my opinion is a break from the norm. Your entitled to your opinion, but I really don't see how he has never cut a "Decent" promo.

Look, in my opinion it doesn't matter how good you are on the mic, if you don't have good wrestling talent like bryan does, Usually the person doesn't do it for me. The Miz has improved a lot in the ring over the past year, that's why I don't think he's overrated. But Bryan has done a lot in his short time in the WWE, and I think he deserves credit for that.

 

[pessimism101]

In general, I'd say Daniel Bryan is not overrated because the majority of WWE fans know little about him. In the IWC, I'd say he is greatly overrated. And I don't mean that in a disparaging way, I'm just saying that the IWC treats Daniel Bryan like a wrestling god, a title which I don't think he's even close to earning yet.

Let's not forget that he spent 10 years in the minor leagues. There's a reason for that... he simply wasn't good enough for the major league. Sure, he's there now, but it's going to take quite some time for me to believe the hype.

 

[Rammsteinerteen]

In general, I'd say Daniel Bryan is not overrated because the majority of WWE fans know little about him. In the IWC, I'd say he is greatly overrated. And I don't mean that in a disparaging way, I'm just saying that the IWC treats Daniel Bryan like a wrestling god, a title which I don't think he's even close to earning yet.

Let's not forget that he spent 10 years in the minor leagues. There's a reason for that... he simply wasn't good enough for the major league. Sure, he's there now, but it's going to take quite some time for me to believe the hype.

Stop calling ROH the minor leagues, honestly. Your like Michael Cole, you have no clue what the hell ROH is. WWE is great, I love it. ROH is also great, if it was on cable televison during the last ten years, then you'd see Daniel Bryan was more then a rookie.

 

[MattyBoy30]

I don't see how just because someone was wrestling in the minors for quite a few years, that it doesn't mean they were never good enough for the big time. I think Daniel Bryan is a great asset to the WWE, and considering that he was trained by one of the all-time greats (Shawn Michaels), he's obviously destined for greatness!

 

[The Ram]

I'm trying to like this guy, I am. But week by week it just seems like there are more things holding me back from enjoying his presence in the WWE.

One thing that bothers me the most is how he always looks like he's suppressing laughter...I thought Shelton Benjamin had it bad.

Second, he doesn't sell moves particularly well. By this I mean for someone his size (smaller than most WWE superstars).

Third, he's lanky in the ring and although I know he has an impressive move repertoire, he's not very impactful in ring.

I've never heard him cut a decent promo, especially seeing that he's supposed to be a face and an underdog face at that, he is horrible at working a crowd.

So...is it me? Is it WWE? Is it Bryan?

PS. If he had any say in his theme music (that debuted on RAW tonight) then add that to my list.

Listen to guy!! Daniel Bryan.... I have never seen anyone as overated as him. He does not interest me at all. I'm glad that Miz comes out and kicks his ass because he needs his ass kicked. Listen to Michael Cole he doesn't listen to how the crowd reacts. I mean what is so special about this guy because he's nothing special to me.

 

[K4P-Unleashed]

Daniel Bryan.. fuck that.. Bryan Danielson is one of the best wrestlers to ever step foot inside a square ring. I don't care for his WWE gimmick, I wish there was more depth to it, but as far as raw talent is concerned, no one has more. If you have never seen any of his independent work, I would check it out. The reason is, WWE really cuts his move set back and everything is so much more scripted. So if you don't know AmDrag, then it's you. But you can't help WWE because if they let Danielson wrestle full out with any of their main eventers, Danielson would make them look horribly bad. Horribly.

 

[MWRedskins]

The man can't cut a decent promo? I enjoyed his promo with Michael Cole on NXT, Daniel Bryan was great. Same goes with his promo with The Miz. Daniel Bryan sells well, it actually looks like he's injured. He's awesome, he's great in the ring. He's new, he's different, Sheamus and Wade Barrett is same old same. Daniel Bryan is what WWE needs. QUOTE]
that is all that needs to be said honestly, to all the people who SAY he's overrated, think again. The only thing bad things about him is his new WWE name and his music, other than that, what Rammsteinerteen said is perfect. he's new, different, awesome and great in the ring. he can sell injuries and yes, he can cut promos. Is he CM Punk great with promos, no, but he can cut them, need proof, look at his NXT promos with Michael Cole, look at his promos with The Miz.

 

[Lionshare]

i agree this guy is sooooo dammmmn overrated.. "the guys a goof, the guys a nerd hes a vegan he doesnt own a tv set does he realize hes in the entertainment business, hes on television but he doesnt own one" micheal cole hahah n his promo with edge tonite was sooo stupid n hopeless... THE US belt has lost alll its prestige by giving it to this guy

This guys is brainwashed by michel cole in sooooo many ways, it makes me laugh so hard XD, onto the main topic, no bryan isnt overrated, i think hes developing nicely in raw and his feud with the miz is going to make wonder for both of them.

 

[wrestlebomb89]

Bryan's filled the role of the technical wrestler that the E has been missing since chris benoit.Hell ill even go above that and say he's better than benoit in being a technical wrestler.On his selling moves well,i think everyone can already tell you that Bryan really sold the injury to his arm quite well actually,as well as doing a great job of selling the 2 on 1 beatdown on raw.Thirdly,he's in the WWE which limits his moveset meaning you probably wont see some of his fancier moves in ROH which is quite a shame.As for his music i'd rather the WWE let him use The final countdown like he used to in ROH.

So in closing it probably is you,but to each his own opinion.

 

[Schizophrenic]

If I was greatly respected and did as much as Bryan has only to come somewhere where your two top trainers (HBK & William Regal) are as respected as they are I'd probably be supressing my laughter just as much as he. Plus he seems genuinely happy to be there. What's wrong with that? Better than these new guys who look pissed off. What the hell are you angry about? You're in the WWE? Be happy! Anyway, yeah the guy's promos are not the best but when he needs to they are very good. Look at his NXT promo against Michael Cole. I can't wait to see his promo against Miz after tonight. The guy is a better seller than probably a good 95% of the current roster. Hell even their golden child John Cena can't sell as good as him.

So is he overrated? Maybe by some but to most of us we give him the credit he deserves, but some simple minded fools who may not like him consider that being overrated, those people also enjoy Khali & Ryder matches, so take that for what it's worth. I'm also guessing the music had to do with Bryan's comment about coming out to music he can't even recognize. Maybe thats why he was laughing tonight.

 

[wwf1998]

first off, id love to see wwe get the rights to "final countdown" but theyre not gonna commit to that till danielson (yes "danielson") becomes atleast an uppercard guy. now wit that out of the way.....

it irks me when ppl just crap on ROH w/o ever watching a ROH match; ROH would be close to nothin if it wasnt for danielson; next, ppl have to understand that wwe is tremendously misusing his moveset and skills; i wouldve preferred to see danielson as a heel because he plays a great one, but for right now, hes just getting used to the new environment

 

[Palange420]

First off, it is very rare for any wwe superstar to have any say in their entrance music. With that being said, u complained on his selling? R u kidding me? U must've missed the ppv last night, because the way he sold the arm in his match was textbook selling, it was perfect. Now, I will say that I believe that the wwe is holding him back a bit when it comes to his move set. But in no way, shape or form is he overrated, and it is an atrocity to say that he belittles the U.S. championship. Come on, the miz defended the title like once in 8 years. Maybe now we can actually see good technical wrestling feuds over a midcard title like we used to back in the day. So, in closing, absolutely NOT overrated, and if u think he is, just keep watching, because if u like the actual wrestling part of the business, he will eventually win u over as well.

 

[K4P-Unleashed]

This guys is brainwashed by michel cole in sooooo many ways, it makes me laugh so hard XD.

Until you pointed it out...

I didn't even know that was possible..

Does this guy even realize that Michael Cole is probably a huge Bryan fan? It's his job to make Dani look less than what he really is, to basically make a joke out of him because he was an independent "scrub". Some people take what they hear on TV way too seriously.

Maybe that's why Danielson doesn't own a TV.

 

[CKguy217]

As a wrestler, I think Daniel Bryan is great. As far as technical goes, he's up there with Benoit.
Of the mic work I've seen, not very impressive, but I doubt I've seen all of his mic work.
I think the program between Danielson and Miz is great and I am looking forward to seeing how it plays out.