**MERGED** All Wyatt Family Discussion

[Jack-Hammer]

At the end of Raw this past Monday, Michael Cole revealed that The Wyatt Family will be making their WWE debut on the next Raw. After weeks of build up with the various vignettes and glowing reviews from WWE developmental, especially Bray Wyatt's work in NXT, their arrival on the main roster has been highly anticipated.

So what are you expecting will happen with them this Monday?

For me personally, I'm thinking they'll pop up in the midst of the segment featuring Vickie Guerrero's performance evaluation. I'm sure it'll be plugged at various times through the night and it's likely that Vince, Stephanie & Triple H will all be in the ring. As a result, it'll probably be one of the top drawing segments of the show and I'd say WWE is counting on that. In my eyes, that makes it a perfect opportunity to bring them out. Interacting with all the various authority figures and possibly even terrorizing them would be an interesting way for them to make an impact on the show. I could see Bray tearing into any of them on the mic as he spouts his rhetoric and it'd come off quite well, again in my opinion, if Vince, Stephanie & Vickie displayed concern or unease in their presence. After all, WWE has billed the vignettes as "disturbing", so selling intimidation in their presence is a nice way of keeping up that vibe. After all, if Vince is intimidated then that'll generate interest I think.

As for Triple H, I think it'd be best if they left him laying, just have Harper & Rowan especially devastate him with Wyatt himself joining in. I think Triple H should show some level of dismay at their appearance, but not nearly to the point of the others in the ring. After all, he's Triple H and he's feuded with every top name to pass through WWE in the last 20 years. As a result of Triple H being beaten down, Vickie gets out of Dodge while Vince & Stephanie maybe being a little too taken aback to try and help. Or, maybe Vince is holding Stephanie back in an effort to protect her. If Bayley accompanies them, she's the female member that's been seen in the last couple of vignettes, I could see them having her attack Stephanie and taking her out, leaving Vince all alone, possibly backed into a corner. In which case, Vince himself might be beaten down, or someone could try coming to his aid, maybe John Cena for instance, only to wind up being taken out as well.

At least, that's at least something along the lines of what I think will go down.

 

[MCMG]

Well The Shield was mentioned so that is a possibility they are involved with them. Perhaps appearing during one of their matches. The three of them in the crowd wearing masks without doing much. Let them creep everyone out for a few weeks before getting physical or even speaking.

I like them getting involved during the job evaluation. It will be an interesting debut and I wonder how far they go with the gimmick.

To be honest, I'm not too excited. Wyatt is good and I like the gimmick but I'm really not convinced by Harper and Rowan. I just don't feel they are that impressive as a tag-team. I can still be won over though.

 

[fafa1021]

I don't know if they will actually physically get involved with anything at this point. It's kind of odd timing with Money in the Bank that Sunday. They will probably come out on the ramp, cut a promo foreshadowing something that is going to happen and then their big move will be on Sunday at the PPV. The way they have been building them up, I have a feeling it will be something huge.

 

[thenextbigthing]

I completely agree with you, Hammer.

I feel the only way to make a big enough impact for the faction with out drawing a huge similarity to the Shield would be to have them interrupt the job evaluation and take out the McMahon family.

The McMahon Family vs. The Wyatt Family has a nice ring to it.
I also can't help but think the whole "the sheep don't realize they outnumber the wolves" angle could be geared toward the McMahons.

Also, MCMG, I agree that I'm more sold on Bray than the other two. Although, I don't think we need to be sold on Harper and Rowan as a TEAM... yet. Let them be henchmen for a bit. Let them put over this family unit, and ultimately Wyatt in their first several showings. If the faction works and the Family gets over, the team of Harper and Rowan will be over by association. This isn't the Nexus. This is a small enough group that it could work.

 

[chibet]

whatever they do, it better not be half assed. They can't go half way with the gimmick or they are destined to be the " weird" family friendly wrestlers who would likely be destined for a future as comedy jobbers ( like the oddities) OR go ALL the way with the "disturbing". Make them truly disturbing, how, not too sure, I hope creative does.

 

[I_Am_Electro_Boy]

I don't see them doing too much on Raw, less is more. One thing they have to do is make sure everyone knows they'll be at MITB so more people will buy the PPV. For me this is the main reason they're debuting on Raw this week and not the night after MITB.

They could even just come out (hopefully with the rocking chair) and say see you at MITB or something, it can literally be something as little as that. Whatever they do they can't do much of, there's so much intrigue that the less they say or do on Raw the more intrigue they will create. It's similar to Jericho coming back, there was so much intrigue with the promos that when he came back and did little it caused more intrigue, then he did a little more every week which I see happening with The Wyatt Family.

I think I would've preferred them to be a surprise but I understand why they're not. They've been the main reason I watch NXT and have been very entertaining so I'm really looking forward to seeing their debut!

 

[CmPunker]

Jack hammer that is an excellent idea. unfortunately, it will not happen. how many times in the past did wwe hype the fuck out of something, and we have very high hopes. and then they let us down? many times i remember. just like the rock vs john cena, failed to live up to the hype. randy orton's tease heel turn at payback, many more but i just cannot tell from the front of my head.

 

[berlinbrawler]

Am I the only one who feels somewhat underwhelmed by the Wyatts? I mean, sure, the viginettes are different from the usual hype. Not sure what to make of them, though. Kinda Texas chainsaw massacre meets Donnie Darko. Dunno. Cryptic, but ultimately it's just two big guys who want to make it in wrestling. The mystery won't last long and before you know it they'll be feuding with the Funkasaurus and Albert. At least that's my impression. I may be too negative or maybe I just don't get it. Everyone else seems to be expecting the second coming of Jesus. I may just be blind. Let's see where the Wyatts are one year from now.

 

[The Butcher]

Am I the only one who feels somewhat underwhelmed by the Wyatts? I mean, sure, the viginettes are different from the usual hype. Not sure what to make of them, though. Kinda Texas chainsaw massacre meets Donnie Darko. Dunno. Cryptic, but ultimately it's just two big guys who want to make it in wrestling. The mystery won't last long and before you know it they'll be feuding with the Funkasaurus and Albert. At least that's my impression. I may be too negative or maybe I just don't get it. Everyone else seems to be expecting the second coming of Jesus. I may just be blind. Let's see where the Wyatts are one year from now.

You can never put anything past WWE, which is why I've greatly tempered my expectations. When these vignettes first started airing, my imagination delighted with possibilities, but they'll likely just be an odd, renegade menace like they are on NXT. You're not being overly negative, I don't think. Chances are you've just been watching WWE long enough to know that everything gets marginalized.

As for their debut this Monday, my prediction is that it'll be simple. Their lights out, rocking chair on the ramp entrance, Bray introduces himself and his bearded kin, and a badass promo will ensue. WWE's not going to give anything away up front. They'll be mysterious and possibly not even lay their hands on anyone until we get closer to SummerSlam.

Or maybe a disco ball will drop from the ceiling, and they'll be the Funkagators- a smiling, jiving trio of fun loving boys from the Everglades. The precedent is there.

 

[TempestH]

I don't think the Wyatt Family should be pushed that hard. While Bray Wyatt himself may have star potential, his two lackeys Rowan and Harper are nowhere near close to that level and they shouldn't be pushed to that point.

Part of the problem with WWE nowadays is that they're trying to make too many people into "big deals". The roster is too top heavy, which makes everyone else look that much weaker by comparison, because everyone who isn't a "main eventer" is made out to be a jobber. Trying to make the Wyatt Family a "big deal fairly quick" will only make it worse.

Every stable doesn't HAVE to be a "biggest threat to the company". They shouldn't be thrown at Cena, Punk, Sheamus, Orton, etc. right away, because then there's nowhere to go but down and we'd just complain that they've been "buried" because they aren't World Champions and won't be any time soon. We've already seen that with The Shield to some extent.

If all they do is squash Zack Ryder or whomever for the first few weeks and then immediately go into a feud with a main eventer, all they've served to do is further perpetuate the "Non-main event faces don't matter" environment that we've been subjected to for the past few years, and thus their presence is no real improvement to the product.

Ideally, they should be firmly in the midcard, but they should be feud with the midcard faces. Not squashing them, but always winning. Put them over as a force in the midcard, with midcard faces stepping UP to challenge them. Just keep attacking guys like Tons of Funk, Ryder, Gabriel, Yoshi, A-Ry, etc. until they band together and try to take on the Wyatt Family in various six man tags, where the Family just keeps winning. Wyatt has his gimmick and his weird promos to keep him afloat, and thus doesn't need the rub from beating up Cena off the bat.

 

[rge2010]

I can't believe people are calling for these to be heels. ANOTHER 3 man stable who have to be a threat? zzzzz

I hope the Wyatt Family come in as faces. If they are going down the Vince vs Triple H route then how about Vince and The Shield (who Vince has cosied up to) vs Triple H and The Wyatts? The Wyatts would get way over alligning with Triple H.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Not sure how I actually want the debut to happen. OP is a pretty good idea tho. The McMahons helping anyone get over is always going to work. I just need it to continue to be creepy. Even if it scares some of the kiddies in the audience. That's all the better.

It cant be the same as the Shield, in the fact that they wrestled in 6-man tag matches & nothing else for a really long time. It needs to be known that Bray is the man, and the other 2 are his "helpers", but are also a tag-team. So the minions help Bray win matches. Bray helps them win tag-team matches.

What I really want to get out of this besides the creepy factor is: Paige being part of the family. I think she would be perfect for the role. She seems to be the most ready of the NXT girls...and she is the anit-diva. To me, it would make sense for her to come in as the sociopathic female "sister" of the Wyatt Family somewhere along the way. Maybe not to start- but somewhere.

I'm excited for this debut on Monday. But I'm more excited for the next few months, to see what actually happens with them along the way.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

I don't think the Wyatt Family should be pushed that hard. While Bray Wyatt himself may have star potential, his two lackeys Rowan and Harper are nowhere near close to that level and they shouldn't be pushed to that point.

Part of the problem with WWE nowadays is that they're trying to make too many people into "big deals". The roster is too top heavy, which makes everyone else look that much weaker by comparison, because everyone who isn't a "main eventer" is made out to be a jobber. Trying to make the Wyatt Family a "big deal fairly quick" will only make it worse.

Every stable doesn't HAVE to be a "biggest threat to the company". They shouldn't be thrown at Cena, Punk, Sheamus, Orton, etc. right away, because then there's nowhere to go but down and we'd just complain that they've been "buried" because they aren't World Champions and won't be any time soon. We've already seen that with The Shield to some extent.

If all they do is squash Zack Ryder or whomever for the first few weeks and then immediately go into a feud with a main eventer, all they've served to do is further perpetuate the "Non-main event faces don't matter" environment that we've been subjected to for the past few years, and thus their presence is no real improvement to the product.

Ideally, they should be firmly in the midcard, but they should be feud with the midcard faces. Not squashing them, but always winning. Put them over as a force in the midcard, with midcard faces stepping UP to challenge them. Just keep attacking guys like Tons of Funk, Ryder, Gabriel, Yoshi, A-Ry, etc. until they band together and try to take on the Wyatt Family in various six man tags, where the Family just keeps winning. Wyatt has his gimmick and his weird promos to keep him afloat, and thus doesn't need the rub from beating up Cena off the bat.

Every stable doesn't need to be the biggest threat, but a stable that has built itself on vignettes telling people to "Run" and basically implying that the roster will be lambs to the slaughter do...

IF it goes how I think it will, I think Taker will be their target along with Kane, starting if BOD take on the Shield at Summerslam. The match between Bray and Taker doesn't need to be Mania, it could take place at Survivor Series or Hell in A Cell but I can see Bray knocking off Kane and Taker in quick succession, much how Mankind did in his early days.

Oh and Bateman, I can get a table at Dorsia...

 

[savage29]

Hopefully, they beat down a the top guy : Orton, Sheamus,kane etc. and right off the bat assert themselves as threat in the WWE.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Or maybe a disco ball will drop from the ceiling, and they'll be the Funkagators- a smiling, jiving trio of fun loving boys from the Everglades. The precedent is there.

Equally satisfactory, obviously.

Im not sure what im expecting, but i know what I hope....I hope it comes out of fucking NOWERE. I hope its utterly shocking. Some juice getting flowing would be all the better, given in this day and age in the WWE it would be especially impactful. Whomever they crush, they should drag them out of the arena by the arms. The way they have built this up, it has to be fucking shocking. I was actually sort of disappointed they announced it last week. guess they sent Cole an E-mail to tell him they were showing up this week.

What do I really expect? Something limp dick, like everything WWE does.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

This guy, Husky Harris, or Wyatt, or whatever his name is, has the creep factor going for him. I hope they stick with that.

I don't know how good he can be, or how long they can sustain this gimmick, but I think it can be a lot of fun, even for a short while. I don't care who they feud with to start, but they're creepy fucks, and they need to play that up, big time.

 

[Jessie Lynn DivaGirl]

I actually got to see Bray Wyatt at a house show in Wheeling about two months ago. I was very impressed by his preformance in the ring so I can suspect that he's going to be pushing a title threat early on. As for the rest of his family, I've said this before, I think they might some how piece them along with the Shield, as if toying our boys in black along until they meet head on. Until then they'll probably attack someone like *cough* Cena. Or even Ryder or other face mid-carders and jobbers, to get themselves started, then go for big dogs. I want something grand, but I'm not expecting much.

 

[Sid Schmid]

I seriously cannot fucking wait for this debut tonight. I really hope it's not a damp squib though, that is my main concern.

I agree with all of those that calling for it to be something epic. It's got to be something unpredictable. I don't want Harper/Rowan to win a 2 minute squash match against Justin Gabriel & partner whilst Bray sits in his rocking chair. I want them to come out and make a statement, something completely out the leftfield.

Come on WWE, shock us all, don't fuck this up. It has the potential to go down in history!

 

[#tamale]

What do I hope for tonight? An interruption by the Wyatt family against CM Punk, Sheamus, or Randy Orton. An interruption followed by a beatdown while Bray just looks on laughing and preaching. Simple, but effective.

What do I expect? Well, what I hope for. It would be very disappointing though if they squash some tag team jobbers with a quick promo from Bray. I don't think that will happen though.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Last night on Raw, the Wyatt Family debuted with Bray Wyatt guiding traffic while Rowan & Harper annihilated Kane. Given what happed during the attack, namely Kane's head being "slammed" between the ring steps, one would assume that this takes Kane out of the WWE Championship MITB match at the ppv. Also, as one would expect, Kane has never been the type of character in which WWE allows to suffer a beatdown with some sort of response.

I read an article on wrestlinginc.com hinting that WWE MIGHT be building a match between the Wyatt Family and the Brothers of Destruction for SummerSlam. However, according to the article, Taker is injured, the nature of the injury wasn't specified, but it's believed to have happened during Taker's angle involving The Shield. Either that aspect of the story isn't true, which I'm leaning towards as this is the first time I've heard anything regarding Taker suffering an injury as the result of an angle that took place a few months back, and is being used to throw some people off.

If Taker is injured then, over the coming weeks, the Wyatt Family might target someone else, after which this other wrestler aligns himself with Kane to take on the Wyatts at SummerSlam. If either of these particular angles go down, then it leaves you wondering what's going to happen with The Shield. WWE was initially planning Taker & Kane to take on The Shield at SummerSlam, but it's possible those plans have changed. If Taker is willing & physically able to work the event, but it's against The Wyatts rather than The Shield, then I think WWE will go a couple of ways with The Shield. The most obvious is that they extend their current feud with The Usos and have a tag title match at SummerSlam. Another scenario involves some sort of multi-team match, which is a possibility since Tons of Funk had a surprisingly good match against The Shield where they looked better than at any point since they've teamed up, and keep The Usos in the mix.

So, which would you prefer at this moment, if it's all able to work out where Taker can compete? The Brothers vs. The Shield or The Brothers vs. Family

 

[chicagokmc]

The Shield's early run has me exhausted with the 3 on 2 squashes. If the Wyatt family is really being pushed, then Taker/Kane would be squash victims over and over and that would get repetitive fast. Most importantly it would require commitment from the Undertaker that we only seem to get closer to WrestleMania. What I see happening is the same thing that happened with the Shield. The Wyatts will keep fighting individuals who eventually team up to take on the collective group.

 

[Jack G]

Undertaker returning would be good; they'd have to give it an amazing build but it can only happen if the Wyatt's win I think. The Undertaker can't win then dissapear again until WM season.

it would be AMAZING having all 3 factions in some sort of TLC match (see Hardy's, Edge & Christian, Dudley's)..but that's just me dreaming.

 

[MCMG]

It's an interesting one. I was certain that we would see The Undertaker and Kane face The Shield rather than the Wyatt Family. I'm not convinced that the Wyatt family is the right way to go. Harper and Rowan are yet to impress me. Bray Wyatt is good and I like the gimmick, it is unique; however, can we honestly say that Harper and Rowan should be in a match with the Brothers of Destruction. I'm not convinced.

This feud, if it does happen, would be interesting simply because it would be creepy and dark. The Undertaker from the late 90's, when I was only a kid, scared the fuck out of me. If they try to recapture some of that, mixed with The Big Red Machine there is potential.

While I think there are better options for The Undertaker and Kane, I think this feud could be entertaining. A tag-team match would almost certainly have to be a gimmick match (hell in a cell) because it is going to be very slow and potentially boring.

 

[theuk savior]

what about the brothers get someone join them maybe someone that is due a return or some not involved in anything and then have the brothes vs the family vs the shield am sure it is possible to get that story line going somewhere

 

[OneTooManyPunts]

I'd much rather see Shield vs Taker/Kane then The Wyatt Family vs Taker/Kane.

The Wyatt Family now has one official WWE appearance under their belt. As anyone could hear last night, fans still remember Bray Wyatt as Husky Harris. WWE needs to give Bray Wyatt time to establish his character more on television, and in ring to really help fans go 'all in' on the Wyatt Family. Luke Harper and Eric Rowan also need time both in ring, and in front of live WWE crowds in general to start leaving their own mark and impression on the fans, they are in critical piece of what will make The Wyatt Family work.

IF he's healthy enough to go at Summerslam, I can't see Taker coming back for his first Summerslam in years to lose. With that said, why immediately take the steam out of the Wyatt Family gimmick by having them lose on what would most likely be their first PPV match?

Their debut was a success in my eyes, but now they need the time to be established at the monster heel threat that WWE seems to be pushing them as.

The Shield has been around for a while now, and it's obvious that WWE no longer has any quarrel with letting them lose. While I don't think The Shield should necessarily be a default group to take a loss to Taker and Kane, I feel like they could do so and still maintain their credibility, given that they've had enough time to build up some good equity with fans. They could lose at Summerslam, in a non title match, keep their belts, an still possibly carry on in to another feud or possibly revisit Taker and Kane closer to WM.