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*Merged* All 2012 Speculation About New Champions, Future Stars, Etc.

Same answers over and over will be Cody Rhodes, Wade Barret, and Dolph Ziggler.

But i say this is the year of CURT HAWKINS!

I don't care what you say, if Ryder can do it.... anyone can.

Hawkins is a solid talent. He is learning on the mic (watch NXT) and he is a good in-ring performer.
 
well obviously FDoplh Ziggler, he is the next guy to hit the main event level on a regualr basis. Cody Rhodes will have a bit to wait, but probably by the end of the year he will be on the top of the card. Wade Barrett has had main event predicted for him since he debutted, hes ready. DiBIASE SHOULD ALREADY BE THERE, HE DROPPED THE BALL. dITTO mCiNTYRE, THESE GUYS ARE FINISHED.

Brodus Clay......i dont think so, the ball has already been dropped on him. Thinking outside the square, Im thinking 2012 will be the year of Justin Gabriel, I see him being at the top of the mid card holding weither US or IC title by years end.
 
For the past several weeks there has been a significant change in the WWE. And it's not just that the IWC is getting what they've wanted for so long (see current champions), no. What I'm talking about is the re-birth of an interesting product. Now, I for one always thought that the WWE delivered when it came to story-lines; and ever since their horrible year in 2009, the WWE has picked up their game and put focus into the area where they really should've had focus all this time: the youth movement.

We look at 2010 and 2011 and we saw the growth of this youth movement as guys like Sheamus, Miz, R-Truth, Punk, Ziggler, Cody, Barret, Del-Rio, and Bryan all got a chance at glory. At first, all these guys had their haters--some still do--but something that should be taken notice of--especially in the past few weeks--is exactly how much they've grown. Not just them, however; this includes the then-current crop as well such as Kane and Henry. Nonetheless, all these guys have formed their own persona that works just right for them turning into what will ultimately lead them to becoming larger than life characters joining the leagues of John Cena and Triple H.


Starting from the top:


The Great White Sheamus - The Irish fella that looks like a legitimate bad-ass. This guy's head is in the right place and seems to value his moral judgement above all. Fighting for what's right and never backing down from a challenge. This kind of persona works great for Sheamus as it's exactly the kind of image he gives upon first notice.


Mr. Awesome, the Miz - Miz carries on this impression that he's worth more than what people give him and deserves to have all the glory; yet, despite this, his fists don't back up his mouth. Miz is not afraid to beat you down, but when you attack him, you're a maniac for doing so and deserve to be punished. This persona shows Miz as something he can play best. Sometimes his vocabulary and in-ring ability can be limited, but because he is a cowardly egotist, it does not matter because he's more awesome than you'll ever be.


Coo-coo for Coco Puffs, R-Truth - Dude's got some issues that not even Vince McMahon himself could solve. R-Truth really seems to portray a man that has gone insane as a result of thinking too much about stuff. Little Jimmy thinks so, and so do the rest of us all. This guy plays an amazing maniac that makes me want to sometimes believe that he really has gone mad; irregardless, the dude is fucking hilarious. Don't "WHAT" me, bitches.


The Cult of Personality, CM Punk - A dear favorite to all. CM Punk is a guy everyone can relate to because he looks so average. But looks can be deceiving as the dude is a phenomenal wrestler who is not restricted by boundaries. He'll say whatever he wants, whenever he wants; and ain't no one--not even the interim general manager of Raw and the executive vice-president of talent relations, Mr. John Llaurinaitis can stop him from speaking his mind.


The Show-off, Dolph Ziggler - Cocky can only be described so much. Here's a guy who is in love with himself more than anything else and enjoys showing people how good he is, even if it means acting like a douche in front everyone. His song says it all: "I'm here to show the world." -- the look Ziggler has works perfect to the personality Ziggler has managed to perfect. It's him; it's always been him.


A Re-formed Cody Rhodes - First he was boring, then he was dashing; got broken, and then re-formed. I am in fricken love with Cody Rhodes right now. He's taken off that mask that made him emo and has shown himself to be one confidently dashing, son of a bitch who has restored glory to the IC title. He has an interesting set of ideals and truly believes that the future is here in him. Of course, the stupid'll never understand this.


Wade Barrett and The Barret Barrage - A bare-knuckle fighter from jolly old England, Wade has continued his Barret Barrage show-casing exactly how much of a force to be reckoned with he can really be. Crawling under the skin of the Viper, Barret has raised his once dying fame back to where it should be: rising. The kind of character Barret has now really highlights the legitimacy his looks carry. Barrett's not someone to take lightly, and if ticked off, he'll give you the beating of your life.


The Mexican Aristocrat, Alberto Del Rio - He ended 2011 with a harsh bang by getting injured; but that's alright, cause when he comes back, he'll be richer than ever. The gimmick this man carries has been done before--that's been said a million times--but you gotta give the man credit, he's worked rather well with it. Besides, his hairstyle and facial appearance just scream "snobby narcissist."


Soon to be douche, Daniel Bryan - Ever since he won the world-title, his ego has grown passed the line of cocky. Bryan believes in himself more than anyone ever could--but that's not necessarily a good thing. He likes to rub his victories in our faces by stepping on top of the barricade every time and screaming "YES! YES! YES!" And well, I guess he has the right to scream it; after all, he is champion. Bryan reminds of that kind of kid that you hate when he brags about how good he is, but when you stop and think, he backs up what he says every time. I sense a potential heel in the making.


Kane and Henry, although having been in the business quite a while, have also changed up their character. Kane has returned to his roots embracing "Hate" and becoming, once again, the demonic monster from hell he once was. Henry built a "House of Pain" in which he vowed everyone will eventually suffer from it. Henry looks like one scary motherfucker you never want to piss off--he's playing that part now and he really makes it believable.


The point in me explaining all this, though, is to show exactly how much all these superstars have grown within the past months. They have all started 2012 strong, and one can only assume that as 2012 continues, their characters will improve thus making them the larger than life characters that they are meant to be. At one point or another, we came to think: these guys aren't ready to become main-eventers; they're too bland--they're just not interesting enough. Where's Shawn Michaels? Where's Stone Cold? Eddie? Benoit? -- That's all in the past. 2012 will show a re-start in which the youth's we have now will make the WWE thrive in glory once again.


But enough about what I think, what say you?

Do you think that the aforementioned crop is enough to keep one interested in WWE for the upcoming years?

What's your take on their progress? Too early to speak, or are they meeting expectations?

Who of them do you think will be larger than life?


You don't have to answer all of them--or any of them for that matter--just say what you think about these guys' development. Oh, and if I missed anyone feel free to add them to the discussion.
 
He has absolutely no momentum or focus, though, he's a jobber. Ryder got popular with his web show, which led, gradually, to him getting a push.


So your saying Hawkins cant do the same thing?
He can get a personality (which he is building now.) and givin the Right push, you could have the breakout star.

Changing the momentum!
 
The WWE is doing great at building stars and making good product vis story lines at this time.
But, they have a huge problem... The ENDING to these good story lines!

I hope they don't screw up the Jericho, Jonny Ace/Punk, and Kane/Cena storylines.

Do you think that the aforementioned crop is enough to keep one interested in WWE for the upcoming years?
-No, they need to continue building new and different stars.

What's your take on their progress? Too early to speak, or are they meeting expectations?
-GREAT Progress. It still is early, but i love these guys and their characters right now.

Who of them do you think will be larger than life?
-All but Del Rio (boring), and Truth, Kane, Henry (older, wont get too big)
I mean, they all have the opportunity... its just a matter of if they work like Cena dd to get there.
 
Do you think that the aforementioned crop is enough to keep one interested in WWE for the upcoming years?
Absolutely. I think you have a great group of guys there who can really form a nice core for the company, along with Cena and Orton who both aren't going anywhere. However, as the poster above me said, you should always be working on building new stars so as to not let the product go stale.

What's your take on their progress? Too early to speak, or are they meeting expectations?
The vast majority of them are. Del Rio is a disappointment as a character and I don't think he should be prioritized as much as he was when he comes back. I think Bryan is kind of overrated too but his heel gimmick definitely has potential. Punk, Miz, Truth, Sheamus, Barrett, and Rhodes are all fantastic. Ziggler has definitely grown on me as well.

Who of them do you think will be larger than life?
Depends on what your definition is. Punk is already the number two guy in the company. Sheamus is well on his way to being a major babyface. Miz will also be a huge face eventually, and I'm glad they haven't turned him too soon. Barrett, Rhodes, and Ziggler can all hold down the heel side really well in the future. So a lot of them can be. It's hard to predict things like that without knowing what factors will either boost or possibly hamper their careers.
 
We have had Hogan, Austin, and Cena carry the WWE company. I for one hope this year the torch gets passed again to the next giant name. I just dont know for sure who it should be. Is Punk good enough to be the top guy. I think he deserve a real shot to prove himself and 2012 is the time to let him do it. Like the other three, I think cm punk could be larger than life, if given the proper chance and story lines to do so.
 
Cody Rhodes, I don't see him challenging for the Heavyweight Championship this year. But I do think he will hold the Intercontintal Title for the next 12months beaking the The Honky Tonk Mans record of longest reigning IC champion.

Sheamus vs. Wade Barrett, will lead to them both becoming huge stars and headlining Smackdown towards the end of the year. Expect Barrett to pick up the World Heavyweight Championship just before Summerslam, resulting Sheamus becoming the number one contender and creating a long term feud.

Alberto Del Rio, sure he is the Royal Rumble winner and held the title in 2011. But I expect Del Rio to finally cement his character and place as top heel on Raw, and long term title prospects.
 
There are a few obvious choices: Cody Rhodes, Dolph Ziggler, Wade Barrett. Cody with all due respect to his old man Dusty, I think he's already better then he ever was. That's not a knock on Dusty its a compliment to Cody. Dolph is already poised to have a big year as well as Wade. Dolph and Wade will most likely have a world strap this year. Cody maybe late in the year or next year.

Less obvious choices mentioned: Zack Ryder, Justin Gabriel, Curt Hawkins, Ted DiBiase, Drew McIntyre, Brodus Clay, Truth, Miz. As much as I enjoy Zack Ryder I don't see him being anything more then he is now. Gabriel I have loved from day one. He's great in the ring but a little gren on the mic which with some air time can and will improve. Much like Cody and Dolph being of the small variety, he has a hell of a hill to climb. Could very well see him with the IC title by the end of the year. Curt Hawkins is not that good. I don't see him doing anything. Ted DiBiase is okay in the ring, not spectacular. Don't see him as anything more then a mid to upper midcard guy. Drew it is debatable whether WWE Creative dropped the ball or if he did. None of it matters because he begins his climb right now. He'll start to be dominant again by years end. Brodus Clay as much as I am torn between entertained and apalled at his re-debut I don't see him suceeding with this gimmick in the long run. As far Truth I think he has already peaked and don't see him getting any farther. Miz is tricky. I like him, but I fear his obnoxious and cocky heel crap is stale. At this point I'd rather see Truth then Miz. And I'm not a huge Truth fan. Time for a change.

I'm not AGAINST any of those names really breaking through to the next level. They are the ones that got to pull it off. They have to make all of you and me tune in and WANT to see them. They all have talent in one form or another it's a matter of getting the air time and capitalizing on it.
 
I think WWE is always great! I am very sorry to all the (TNA Marks) out there but TNA fucking sucks! It always has and always will! WWE is doing great with building stars! i love all the names the OP mentioned and expect all of them to be great things in the future! I expect Punk to be the new face after Cena and i think he deserves it! I also expect Rhodes to be the top heel soon and i also think he deserves it!
 
I see a tag team revival, because the WWE has a built in super team with Zack Ryder and Funkasaurus Bro-dus Clay. Think about it, that would be a team to make tag teams relevant.

As for single stars, The Barrett Barrage will be the huge break out star of this year. He is a total package.
 
Here's what I think...

1) Tyson Kidd - He has a look that works. Same build as Cody and Dolf and is very athletic in the ring. Plus he is the last to train in the dungeon under Stu Hart.

2) Seth Rollins - Maybe not right away, but come end of summer/early fall into the end of the year, its his year. He'll be in the same position as Cody and Dolf by the end of the year.

3) Zack Ryder - He may not get a major title, but look how many legends never got a title. He already came through in 2011 and 2012 is his time to shine. Watch for a character tweak as the year progresses...it's his next step to getting over.

4) Wade Barrett - He's slow rising. 2011 could've been his year but WWE dropped the ball after his Nexus run and he got lost in the shuffle for awhile.

Cody and Dolf already had a breakout year...it was last year, in 2011. Sure they didn't win a WWE or WHC, but they proved they deserved it. Cody has a great feud lined up with his brother if they pull the trigger on it, which could lead to Dusty coming in.

Dolf is already in the ME and has had some great feuds. Eventually I see Punk dropping the title to him, or someone else before Dolf gets his WrestleMania moment. Just like Rock/Cena, Jericho/Punk doesn't NEED the title, so give it to Dolf or let him win it on the grandest stage.

I just hope WWE doesn't use the MITB bank to get either of these guys the title...they dont need that, they are already established.
 
We have had Hogan, Austin, and Cena carry the WWE company. I for one hope this year the torch gets passed again to the next giant name. I just dont know for sure who it should be. Is Punk good enough to be the top guy. I think he deserve a real shot to prove himself and 2012 is the time to let him do it. Like the other three, I think cm punk could be larger than life, if given the proper chance and story lines to do so.

Punk could have been it, this last summer, if they'd hadn't his Summer of Punk II story right. I'm not joking when I say that for a few weeks, he could have been the next Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Course they botched that completely and made it all about HHH. Still, Punk is over, and a main event fixture now, and he may break out as a megastar that can carry the company yet.
 
Punk will be the top guy in 12!! I love his work his ethic and he is over with the crowd big time!!! Punk is this close to being a huge megastar and i for one dont think Cena will let anything stop punk from rising to the top!! Cena is not a glory hound like trips hogan nash you get the idea!
 
Well, I will both agree and disagree. Bare with me here, I'm just talking parallells here for purposes of comparison of character trajectory; not "how good they are" at this particular moment.......................

MIZ = Rock. Will eventually become THE crowd pop'er as a face and will not need the title to be relevant. Easily adaptable at the drop of the hat to be put into a fued with anyone or hold the title if necessary until the next guy is ready.

CODY RHODES / DOLPH ZIGGLER = Ted Dibiase or Hacksaw Jim Duggan. All depends on how booked. Potential to be the next legend, potential to be the next wollower in mediocrity. Very talented none the less.

PUNK = Austin. But needs to revist the the "tweener" mentality to sustain. Definately can carry the company.

Shameus = HHH. I've always hated Preperation H and I hate Shameus. They are identical. They will stay popular with or without a title and because he's a jacked up roid head that Vinnie seems to love and shove down everyone's throats, so will always be relevant. But to me, the character is el' barfo.

Kane = Kane. A legend in his own. Nuff said.

Mark Henry = Big Show. Very diverse. Will always be there when needed as a face or heel.

Truth, Del Rio, Bryan, Barrett = Ken Shamrock. The flavor of the month, with no long lasting capability past mid card status. Pathetic mic skills and a boring approach. All will be gone by WM30. They all suck moose cock.

And yes, THANK YOU for not mentioning that fucking ****** Zack Ryder. What a fucking moron. Who he blew and who's load he swollowed to get where he is, I dont know. I'm a Long Islander and I cringe everytime he calls himself the Long Island Iced Z.
 
It depends if you're talking about mid-carders becoming champions or jobbers getting some mid-card feuds. Main eventers this year I think the obvious ones like Dolph, Rhodes and Barrett will all be there. In terms of possible IC or US champs it looks like Mahal, Dibiase, Brodus will all be about. I see Justin Gabriel breaking and hopefully the Usos. Looks like Tamina's also getting a push...for all it's worth
 
Don't forget people coming in from FCW. Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins and Antonio Cesare all have already done some test house shows and dark matches, they're all going to be coming up this year.

Not saying they're all gonna be instant successes, not in their first year, but one might hit it big in the mid card quickly enough. They're all very skilled and talented.
 
Breakout star suggests someone who is low on the roster or still in development. I agree with Seth Rollins as one of them, but the guy to eclipse them all is the next Ric Flair....Dean Ambrose.

The sooner they pull the trigger on this guy the better. His character is what the word 'heel' was created for. He's an absolute nutjob.

Husky Harris and Richie Steamboat deserve a shot too. As does (Rachel?) Diaz/Guerrero. She is already better than 80% of the Divas. She can do 3 amigos, gory bomb, frog splash etc, pretty impressive...and she's hot too.

As for TNA, I see big things for Austin Aries. He may beat the X div record held by Daniels and maybe even a TV title on the horizon. I see him being on the verge of upper card by the end of the year.

Magnus and Zema Ion will impress this year too.

I would also like to see MCMG split (they can still tag) so Shelley and Sabin can be in the hunt for a World Title, but I doubt this will happen as the Tag div really needs an MCMG boost till more teams emerge.

Hopefully there are some gems in OVW who can make the step up too.
 
This is my first thread, so hello to everyone here. Everyone is saying that this year, Ziggler, Barrett, and Rhodes will probably win heavyweight championships at some point, and I most likely agree. But I thought it would be fun to make a few bold predictions, and see what your thoughts are and see some potential darkhorse candidates of your own. i'm going to go on a stretch and make some lesser known, not obvious predictions:

1.) Drew Macintyre- he is the chosen one, he's already held the IC and tag belts, sure he spent most of 2011 jobbing and MIA, but this is a new year, he's back on smackdown where he belongs, is getting more air time, and definitely within the span of 12 months he can turn his career around and get the heavyweight championship at some point.

2.) William Regal- If they give the heavyweight championship to someone as lame and boring as Daniel Bryan, then why not give it to a guy who is a legend and is about to retire? Work an angle with him and Bryan, let Regal hold the belt, even if it's only for a day or a few weeks, he deserves to add that to his resume.

3.) Sin Cara- once he comes back from injury, they are going to promote the hell out of this guy again, I could see him potentially winning a money in the bank, but honestly if he does get a belt this year, it will be the intercontinental belt probably, but once again, if they gave it to bryan, then i think sin cara is more deserving than bryan is. Only problem with sin cara, he doesnt talk...how can you have a champion that barely talks? Think he might need a manager....hey...turn ricardo rodrieguez face and have him manager / personal ring announce sin cara...excellent idea....ricardo does wrestle...have him break away from alberto, have them right once or twice, then ricardo turns face and goes with sin cara, then you can have sin cara and alberto fued...perfect.

4.) Jerry Lawler- The King, i believe, has the record of holding the most belts in the history of wrestling. Unfortunately, none of those were ever the WWF / WWE title. I know they gave him a title shot at a PPV last year with the Miz, but I think the King deserves the belt for a short period of time for all the hard work he has put in over the years.

Will any of these 4 get the belt? Probably not, but maybe, crazier things have happened. Last year alone, we saw Mark Henry, Daniel Bryan, and Christian (twice) get the WHC belt. The year before we saw Jack Swagger. Just figured i'd make some bold predictions instead of saying the obvious like Barrett will be champion this year. Let me know your thoughts and if you have any other "darkhorses" possibly getting the title this year
 
Awesome idea for a first thread. I have to agree with Drew McIntyre as a possible darkhorse champion. He was built up as the next big thing. My other choice would be Justin Gabriel as a WHC by very late 2012. I've always thought he was WWE's answer to AJ Styles. I thought Brodus Clay was a possibility but after that unique debut, I would have to say no on that one. My last choice for darkhorse champion is unfortunately R Truth. WWE is building him up right now to be a major player. I see him going to SD! in the draft and being in a top spot.
 
Of those four listed, Drew McIntyre is the only one with even a remote shot of being a World Champion in 2012.

McIntyre is a very young guy who has, in my view, greatly improved most of his overall game. He's still kind of weak on the mic, but he's showing more emotion and intensity whenever he does talk. I don't think 2012 will be the year of McIntyre, he's just not ready. I do think that 2012 will be the year in which McIntyre gets back on track and will do much better with a significant push this time around because of the improvements he's made.

I love William Regal but it's unlikely we'll see him on WWE television for any significant time. Off the top of my head, I can't recall the last time I saw Regal on television. Generally speaking, also, WWE is focusing mostly on much younger guys and build them into the money makers of the future. Regal simply doesn't fit into that. I won't say never because Mark Henry has taught me to never completely write someone off.

When it comes to Sin Cara, he's going to be out for most of this year due to his knee injury. Aside from that, there are issues regarding Sin Cara ranging from consistently botching moves to his near inability to speak English, the general one dimensional aspect of his character and flunking the Wellness Policy. To be honest, Sin Cara really hasn't worked out in the way WWE was hoping for. It's not all Cara's fault, maybe WWE brought up him to the roster too quickly and before some of these problems could be ironed out. At the same time, some of it is his fault as he just hasn't lived up to the hype.

As for Jerry Lawler, there are several reasons why it almost certainly won't happen. Just like Regal, Lawler is an older veteran whereas most of the attention is going to the younger guys. Also, Lawler is in his 60s and I think it will really devalue a title to have a 60+ year old World Champion. Lawler has shown that he can still put on a match that tells a great story, he did it with Miz back in late '10 and early '11, and is in very good shape for his age, but he's someone that I don't think anyone could take seriously as WWE or World Heavyweight Champion.
 
Just like Jack-Hammer stated, McIntyre is really the only guy in the group you listed that will get a chance at holding a world championship. Sin Cara is out for who knows long and they won't propel him into the main event scene until he can be trusted to carry a match and stay healthy for an extended period. King had his chance last year and they won't do that again, and as great as William Regal is, he likely won't wrestle much throughout the year.

I'll throw some other names out there. R-Truth, like someone mentioned above is definitely a guy to consider. I think of all the names out there is the best "dark horse" candidate. They seem to be selling him as a looney face and it hasn't hit on just yet but it's in the early stages. I expect a move to SD would benefit Truth. Two other names are Jinder Mahal and Ted Dibiase. Mahal has the looks and the mic skills to be a star, but his in ring work is shaky. He certainly looks threatening and he could really do well if they give him time to work on his imperfections. Now for Dibiase, he is getting over the Zack Ryder way (through the people). His Dibiase Posse seems to be a hit and he has a better look than Ryder and would be a believable champion.
 
I don't consider R-truth to be a darkhorse, he has already been in the main event scene most of this year, and had a title shot against Cena at a PPV. I am talking about lower / mid card guys that have a chance to become main event talent this year and get the big boy belt haha. I can see jinder and dibiase possibly getting to that point, but at this point i think both would be very good mid card wrestlers, going for the usa or IC belt. Imagine Jinder being the US champion, and then just making fun of the US while being it's champ? Would draw some great heel heat.
 
Who isn't really these days...

I mean in today's fast moving WWE if you haven't been atleast World Champion, you get released. Let's see who has been Champion lately: Bryan, Ziggler, Henry, Punk, Del Rio, Sheamus, Miz, Rey Mysterio, Kane, Christian, the Big Show and of course Orton and Cena.

It's indeed a crazy world we live in and if Miz can win the big one, or even Daniels Bryan in 18months, I'd say just about anyone can.

I feel really sorry for guys like Piper, Dibiase, Roberts, Rude, Steamboat, but then again, the fact they didn't hold the belt means it actually meant something. Unlike today.
 
Drew McIntyre will be world champion for sure. But i also think Mason Ryan & Ezekiel Jackson will both be in the mix. They wont take much of a push to be there just for there look & size. Hunico could also be there.
 

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