Matt Hardy is Gone from TNA, but...

[dwith]

Why in the hell does JEFF HARDY still have a job? It makes no sense to me that MATT is gone this quickly while JEFF is still sitting at home doing his thing and still has a job to go back to.

Now JEFF is a drug user, and a dealer, and it literall has effected his job, and lively hood as a wrestler.

MATT on the other hand seem's to be a bit more stable, maybe he was on suppension for whatever reason's but the DWI was on his time not TNA'S. JEFF'S on the other hand was actually in a ring, and embarrassed the company and all wrestling fan's alike, and he still has his job.

There must be more to MATT HARDY'S story than anyone know's..

What's your guy's take on this HARDY BOY'S saga?

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

Who cares? The time when they were both good has long past.

The Hardy's are both trash, Matt's the bigger piece in the pile. good riddance

 

[yeerandee]

they both lost it after they got the split. they never should have let that happen. although they had some good storylines after, they were at their best and will always be at their best when they were the hardy boyz.

jeff should have never been able to come back in the first place. i dont know why tna wastes their time with jeff. geting all these former wwe guys and letting them be on top right when they get there doesnt help. they think they could do whatever they want.

 

[theshiz8108]

Personaly i think jeff hardy is 10 fold better than matt id give jeff a little more leway firing matt sets a firm example hopefully it sets jeff straight

 

[Carpathian Florist]

Jeff is a legitimate star, whereas Matt is a no one.
If this helps put the fear into Jeff that he might be gone if he doesn't start getting his shit together, it was a wise move on TNA's part.

Remember when Syxx was fired by WCW to try and keep Hall and Nash in check?
It didn't work then and something tells me this kinda thing won't work now either, but I am praying it does.

Who knows if it is kayfabe or not, but there are a lot of positive comments about Jeff as a person, besides the references to his "issues"...
Jeff has problems, it's obvious and they need to be addressed. Hopefully the shock factor of Matt being fired is a step in the right direction.

To me Jeff seemed a lot worse during his TNA tenure when Matt was around, hopefully he'll be back soon without Matt and be able to stay on the right track.

 

[This Is My Name Thank You]

I wonder now if it could be a work or something. And they could have him and Jeff return as the Hardy's and become a tag team again. Something here don't add up. It seem's like this can or could be an example to TNA for what they did to Matt.

But remember Bischoff is famous or infamous for Controversy creates Cash!?!
I won't be surprised if this a work/scam and that we will see them BOTH back in TNA around or after Bound For Glory.

 

[Iversen]

To be honest you could say that for several people in TNA... It wasn't that long ago that Kurt Angle was caught up in a DUI and he didn't get fired, in fact he's the current champ, plus it's not like Angle didn't have previous and hasn't had issues in the past.

I'm by no means saying that Angle should be fired I'm not on either side but it just reeks of inconsistency on TNAs part. It was said in the huge thread about this that it just seemed like an excuse to get rid of someone they wanted to get rid of anyway, and I've got to agree with that.

 

[themusicman]

Surely it was just the excuse that TNA were looking for. There are a number of things we know for sure, first, when both are 'straight' Jeff is much better in the ring than Matt, second, Matt's attitude stinks and by all accounts Jeff is a good guy, thirdly, where would Matt fit into TNA currently, look at the guys stuck in the mid-card, is he really better than Styles? Daniels? Pope? Either member of Beer Money? Of course he isnt, why would they want to keep around a guy who's ring skills are now sub-par and is a pain in the ass and brings down his much more talented brother (who is potentially a M.E. player) this incident just gave them an opportunity to tidy up a mistake they made. Good riddence, the guy is a bloated, self promoting waste of space.

 

[The Shadow Lynx]

To be honest you could say that for several people in TNA... It wasn't that long ago that Kurt Angle was caught up in a DUI and he didn't get fired, in fact he's the current champ, plus it's not like Angle didn't have previous and hasn't had issues in the past.

I'm by no means saying that Angle should be fired I'm not on either side but it just reeks of inconsistency on TNAs part. It was said in the huge thread about this that it just seemed like an excuse to get rid of someone they wanted to get rid of anyway, and I've got to agree with that.

I said this this morning on a different forum that TNA was waiting for an excuse to fire Matt Hardy.

I also stated i only think they brought him in to try and support Jeff in his problems.I personally think they assumed Matt could keep him in check and clean.They've clearly been waiting for Matt to fuck up to ditch the piece of shit !!

The Hardys are their own worst enemy.between posting videos of them tasering people, Matts online slagging off of other performers on his youtube channel, Matts recent TNA suspension that he claimed he was unwell when he was infact suspended and telling TNA fans to ask for a refund as he wasnt at a house show, Jeffs ongoing court case for drug related stuff youd think they should keep a low profile and stay out of trouble.Both think they are bigshot wrestlers when in reality they are junked up alchoholics that are seriously deluded !!

 

[theshiz8108]

Simply put jeff is great ive had a bad taste for matt ever sence i think it was him n christian with that version 2 crap or whatever

 

[Awesome_Miz]

Jeff should have long gone but now that Matt is fired that lights a fire under Jeff's ass.So I guess we will have to wait what happens to Jeff.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Three reasons:

1. Jeff is a superstar. Matt is not.

2. Jeff screwed up showing up in no condition to work a PPV main event. Matt showed up to everything late, was suspended for it and then wrecked his car under the influence on top of it after already being on thin ice.

3. There is no indication that Jeff has a poor attitude backstage. Matt reportedly did.

 

[Nate DaMac]

3. There is no indication that Jeff has a poor attitude backstage. Matt reportedly did.

It's hard to determine someone's attitude when they're shitfaced all the time.

But yeah, you're pretty much spot on. Angle and Jeff can get a pass here and there because they're actual commodities and they may be worth the trouble if they can straighten the fuck out. Whether Matt straightened up or not, he was still Matt Hardy. I really hope this is a humbling experience for him. He has such a high opinion of himself, maybe being fired by fucking TNA will bring his ass back down to earth.

Jeff's name earns him another chance. Everyone thinks that people should be on an even keel but that's just not the way the world works. If John Cena got a DUI, he'd probably get some sort of "fine" and it would never be brought up again. If Trent Baretta got a DUI he'd probably get canned.

 

[mlp420]

Jeff Hardy is one of the biggest stars in pro wrestling. Because he's a big star, he's worth the headaches and Matt isn't. If Jeff can get clean and turn himself around, he'll be the best asset TNA has ever had. That's probably why TNA is hanging on to him.

And I don't get people who lump Jeff Hardy in with guys like Hogan/Flair/Sting being "washed up". The guys about the same age as AJ Styles and Samoa Joe. And he's fairly new to the main event scene too. He's only been a top guy for about 3 years.

 

[lancir]

The answer to this question is actually quite simple. Matt a complete asshole who likes to run his mouth and bad talk the company hes working for online where as jeff has shut his mouth and taken his suspension and has not said anything..same with Angle. Bottom line is this Matt screwed himself on this one hes a complete jerk and thinks hes this world famous wrestler where in my opinion he hasn't been good since well team extreme broke up.

 

[onewayleeway69]

TNA should take Matts money and give it to Chavo Guerrero hes solid in the ring good on the mic in shape a vetran that has his his head on straight and deserves more then WWE gave him.

 

[triplehbk23]

Here are 2 men that in my opinion had it made in WWE. I rememeber back when ECW was still around and Matt was the ECW Champ and Jeff was the World Heavyweight Champ. These guys were beating everyone. Matt was always beating the bigger guys like Mark Henry and Kane and Jeff had several pinfall victories including on PPV over Triple H. They had it all. WWE gave them their super stardom and dont get me wrong their epic ladder matches and tlc matches with the dudleys and E&C were nothing short of amazing. But then it was as if they felt well hey WWE what can you do for us now. Make us invinceable and let us do what we want. And lest face it no one does that to the McMahons. So after they were given numerous Tag Team titles, Ecw Titles, World Heavyweight Ttitles, The US Ttitle The I-C Title they wanted more and thought they could walk into TNA and be the greatest acquisition since Kurt Angle. WRONGGGGGG!!!! Since that time you have Jeff in court every month because he is addicted to a million different drugs, Matts suspension and now the DWI. I think the Hardy legacy is all but over. They can not re-create what they once had in WWE. Matt asked for his release because he said he was going no where, well i say its because he ended up gaining 25 lbs. , he couldnt do in that ring what he once used to and he figured that he could go hang out in TNA with his brother Jeff, ride his coattails agaian and live the kind of extra curriclar life that WWE wouldnt allow them too. Well look where it got them now. Its a shame and I hope Im wrong but the way these 2 are going I hope to god that it doesnt end up tragic for one of them in next couple of years but it seems that the only direction these 2 are headed is down!!!

 

[Depakote]

I dont know why the OP is so confused about all this. Matt Hardy is the Marty Jannety of the Hardy Boyz. Jeff is the HBK of the two. Jeff has the look, the ability, and the fan base which makes it worth it to give him a chance to get his act together. Marty Hardy is a fat blowhard with an over inflated sense of self worth. He doesnt have the look or the ability or the fan base or the potential to be anything more than a footnote in Jeff Hardy's history, just like Marty was to HBK.

 

[whoopin' ass]

i said this to a friend yesterday - the hardy's never evolved. look at say edge and christian - their characters now are pretty different than their tag-team characters back in the late 90's. in many ways, the Hardy's are still the same characters they were when they started. there have been little changes but not a big evolution. not a problem if they were still the only ones doing their style but pretty much the whole X Division wrestles like the Hardy`s did back in the day only they are still young where they Hardy`s aren`t kids anymore. i think they are not as special as they once were in wrestling and maybe that is why we see them screwing up like they are. i think tna will probably release jeff sooner than later too but i doubt wwe will be in a hurry to resign either of them.

 

[LSN80]

they both lost it after they got the split. they never should have let that happen. although they had some good storylines after, they were at their best and will always be at their best when they were the hardy boyz.

And they wouldnt have both turned into pieces of excrament if they stayed together, why? I dont follow this. Both were pushed rather high for some time, obviously the more talented Jeff getting the bigger push. But keeping them together? They would both be best, in AND out of the ring, away from each other. Watching his brother get arrested and make a fool of himself on TV, along with his best friend in Gregory Helms almost get killed due to drinking and driving, you think Matt would have learned.

As for Jeff, he's still a star. The company isnt exactly known as a place to be strict on their drug policies, see Kurt Angle at Genesis for reference. Further, Jeff can still look good in the ring while he's loaded. Its a sad, dangerous fact, but the point is, Jeff could still work when trashed. Matt in TNA, wasted or not(and theres neer been reports he was),was freaking horrendous. Whether it be ring rust, extra weight, or not having the WWE Machine behind him, Matt simply contributed nothing to TNA. Jeff did, his match with Sting not withstanding. Jeff, sadly, is worth the risk. Matt isn't. There's your difference.

 

[Murder/City]

It's quite simple, friend. Jeff is marketable and Matt is not. Even if he's totally fucked up, people are going to buy his merchandise and go to see him at a show. TNA is in no position to lose someone of a high caliber, Matt Hardy is just water off their backs.

 

[Dizzy]

Because....

1. Jeff is still on the level of popularity and draw power of John Cena. He is currently listed in Top 3 of TNA merchandise best sellers along with Sting and Anderson.

2. He had a great run in 2010. He actually did something and made a career out of it. Say what you want about TNA, they actually made Jeff Hardy a legit main eventer and not another Rey Mysterio Token Champ like WWE had him at the time.

3. Jeff didn't disrespect the company by showing up late, telling fans on Twitter to ask for refunds because Matt isn't on the Impact Wrestling World Tour match cards.

Jeff never fucked up by getting suspended then fucking up on top of that.

Sure, Jeff made HUGE mistakes that will piss off anyone but he still did alot of good things for the company, for fans and he put in his time and effort when it came to traveling to see his wife, daughter and doing shows as World Champion.

He should have asked for time off instead of getting high or drinking before a match. But the point still stand, he didn't make a ass out of himself like Matt.

I was told, TNA signed Matt to also keep Jeff on a straight path and to keep his family support system alive considering Jeff has personal relationships with Shannon Moore, Velvet Sky. His wife, Beth is friends with alot of Knockouts there as well.

It was practically the perfect scenario for any pro-wrestler. Family, Friends, Pay, Less Stress, character freedom, etc. Matt Hardy found a way to ruin it for himself.

 

[Rayne]

1. Jeff is still on the level of popularity and draw power of John Cena. He is currently listed in Top 3 of TNA merchandise best sellers along with Sting and Anderson.

OK. We get that you slobber all over what TNA/IW does. Jeff Hardy's name on a marquee while in TNA has put a few thousand asses in seats at a time. Do we need to start running the attendance figures for Wrestlemanias where Cena was the top draw? Seriously? Exaggerate much? If at any time in the future or past you and I get to choose between whose t-shirt money we'd take, you can have Jeff Hardy.

2. He had a great run in 2010. He actually did something and made a career out of it. Say what you want about TNA, they actually made Jeff Hardy a legit main eventer and not another Rey Mysterio Token Champ like WWE had him at the time.

He had a three month reign where he was given very little microphone time and didn't raise the ratings one drop. (Yes, we know, that's everyone's fault but TNA's, if people say it on the internet then it can't be true, blah blah blah.) They made him a main eventer because that's who they thought they had that they could sell. Turns out they couldn't.

3. Jeff didn't disrespect the company by showing up late, telling fans on Twitter to ask for refunds because Matt isn't on the Impact Wrestling World Tour match cards.

No, he disrespected the company by showing up to a pay-per-view too fucked up to perform, went out anyways, and embarrassed the company on live television, causing them to give out free On Demand subscriptions to everyone who saw that. That's much better!

Jeff never fucked up by getting suspended then fucking up on top of that.

Um, grats? Still time on that ticking clock, btw. But Matt said he's been sober!

Matt is gone because he made even less money than Jeff did. They are both fuckups. Matt has been bled for everything that he is worth, and Jeff probably still has a couple pints left in him. Don't bullshit us all with this story about how Jeff's mistakes were so much more benign and his glories so mighty.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Because....

1. Jeff is still on the level of popularity and draw power of John Cena. He is currently listed in Top 3 of TNA merchandise best sellers along with Sting and Anderson.

2. He had a great run in 2010. He actually did something and made a career out of it. Say what you want about TNA, they actually made Jeff Hardy a legit main eventer and not another Rey Mysterio Token Champ like WWE had him at the time.

3. Jeff didn't disrespect the company by showing up late, telling fans on Twitter to ask for refunds because Matt isn't on the Impact Wrestling World Tour match cards.

Jeff never fucked up by getting suspended then fucking up on top of that.

Sure, Jeff made HUGE mistakes that will piss off anyone but he still did alot of good things for the company, for fans and he put in his time and effort when it came to traveling to see his wife, daughter and doing shows as World Champion.

He should have asked for time off instead of getting high or drinking before a match. But the point still stand, he didn't make a ass out of himself like Matt.

I was told, TNA signed Matt to also keep Jeff on a straight path and to keep his family support system alive considering Jeff has personal relationships with Shannon Moore, Velvet Sky. His wife, Beth is friends with alot of Knockouts there as well.

It was practically the perfect scenario for any pro-wrestler. Family, Friends, Pay, Less Stress, character freedom, etc. Matt Hardy found a way to ruin it for himself.

Lol no. If he was anywhere close to the draw that Cena is, he would be making a lot more money and WWE would have hired someone to be with him 24/7 to make sure he doesn't do drugs. Plus TNA would be a lot more over. Not only that but if you're "top 3" along with a WWE has been and a WCW legend (I love WCW but those guys aren't as over or prominent as the WWF/E legends) then you're NOT as over as the most over guy in the world.

I think I get what you're saying though. Jeff is still hired because he actually draws enough to pay for his contract and Matt doesn't draw anything.

 

[Melina]

Because....

1. Jeff is still on the level of popularity and draw power of John Cena. He is currently listed in Top 3 of TNA merchandise best sellers along with Sting and Anderson.

ROFL you have got to be kidding me. He is not the draw John Cena is and never has been. There was a time where he was a solid number 2, but never reached the John Cena Level.

2. He had a great run in 2010. He actually did something and made a career out of it. Say what you want about TNA, they actually made Jeff Hardy a legit main eventer and not another Rey Mysterio Token Champ like WWE had him at the time.

Again really WTF? If you mean by forced Heel Turn and defending the Belt twice against Matt Morgan, only to lose it to Anderson after he was in a match?

Also, he won the title again only to turn right around and lose it to Sting in like a 6 minute match. Really, and you are saying that is making a career of it?



3. Jeff didn't disrespect the company by showing up late, telling fans on Twitter to ask for refunds because Matt isn't on the Impact Wrestling World Tour match cards.

Jeff never fucked up by getting suspended then fucking up on top of that.

Sure, Jeff made HUGE mistakes that will piss off anyone but he still did alot of good things for the company, for fans and he put in his time and effort when it came to traveling to see his wife, daughter and doing shows as World Champion.

He should have asked for time off instead of getting high or drinking before a match. But the point still stand, he didn't make a ass out of himself like Matt.

I was told, TNA signed Matt to also keep Jeff on a straight path and to keep his family support system alive considering Jeff has personal relationships with Shannon Moore, Velvet Sky. His wife, Beth is friends with alot of Knockouts there as well.

It was practically the perfect scenario for any pro-wrestler. Family, Friends, Pay, Less Stress, character freedom, etc. Matt Hardy found a way to ruin it for himself.

Back to the topic at hand. I think they are keeping him under contract so WWE doesn't grab him if he ever cleans up. Jeff Hardy coming back to WWE if he stays straight is worth Millions upon Millions of dollars, and if he doesn't cost TNA anything besides a Roster Spot, then why let him have the chance to go back?

Matt Hardy is meh so it doesn't matter much either way.