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Legacy is boring.

what would really be good for legacy would be to have added another member and have ted win the u.s title. have cody and another member chase the tag titles but keep it off them, giving colons and the tag team titles a bit more credability.

having shane face off against all other 3 members didnt make them look tough atal, just made it seem like orton really needs them to make it to the top.

ted and cody need to break up or feud to get people really intrested in them but neither seem like they are suited to being face right now. maybe cody but his last face run was dull and boring. yea maybe it was coz he was stuck with hardcore holly but i was totaly unintrested in that.
 
What is wrong with you people?? Why does everyone feel the need to complain about EVERYTHING in professional wrestling? No matter what storylines they come up with, all of you think they're "stale." You know what's stale?? ALL OF YOU THAT CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PRODUCT.

I completely disagree that Legacy is boring. They are the top heel faction on Raw. When you tune into Raw every Monday, all of you are waiting to see superstars like HHH, Batista, Shane, and others beat the hell out of Legacy just so they will shut up. If that's true, Legacy has done their job. They bring out real emotion in all of you, just like Vickie Guerrero. You begin to hate them so much while they're in character that you begin to just hate them PERIOD. It's a great formula for a true heel. This is the goal that the WWE is trying to reach. If it wasn't for Legacy, Batista, HHH, and Shane would have no one to elevate them. They're all doing their jobs well.

All of you need to go grab a box of tissues and cry yourselves a river somewhere else.. Stop bitching on this website about the same old crap because in my opinion, that's the only thing that is becoming STALE.
 
They are the top heel faction on Raw

They are the only heel faction. If the WWE branched DiBiasi and Rhodes out and let them develop programs with other wrestlers, it wouldn't be as bad.
 
yes true dat ma brother...not only are they boring but they suck as a faction...cody for now is still a jobber and has no notable feud at all...they should've put him in an angle with shane and he should be having lots of heat with shane..(sad but shane could make him look good) and for fucks sake they should have teddy run a promo with batista ...by now he should have at least one clear victory over batista and batista should be frustrated with him....perhaps from ring rust..culminating with the animal destroying him at like summerslam...the problem really is that these guys have 0 arsenal..and no individualatiy..all stables have that ..horsemen had the enforcer and a great tag team tully and arn-ole and arn pillman and arn windham and arn...roma just kidding. evoloution too. they're boring and nobody cares ...people are focused more on cena when they're trying to push orton/mcmahon.. HUGE PROBLEM..this is THE WORST ANGLE with the BEST POTENTIAL but i think too much time has passed already...in a perfect world cody and teddy would've already been the tag champs instead they're thrusted into the main event time and time again just for run ins and to be shamefully pummled by shane o mac..stephanie should turned on the mcmahons and HHH and sided with legacy at WM. i m still watching on pure instinct..it's boring and a huge disappointment..i'll take katie vick and wildman marc mero in 2 seconds.
 
further more i agree with THE D-MANin the sence that yes people do wanna see HHH and batista over legacy..but thats cause thy're bad guys....in hind sight there IS NO LEGACY..it's randy and friends...wtf is truly the difference between teddy and cody and the beverly brothers...NOTHING they're equally bad to watch...ill say it again...THIS IS ORTON'S MEAN STREET POSSE it's embarassing.
 
What is wrong with you people?? Why does everyone feel the need to complain about EVERYTHING in professional wrestling? No matter what storylines they come up with, all of you think they're "stale." You know what's stale?? ALL OF YOU THAT CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PRODUCT.

What's stale is someone who doesn't know the point of a forum. It's to express OPINIONS. Sure, you think Legacy's fine. Fair enough. I personally, think it IS boring. Look at past heel factions. They all posed fear in the opposite side of the spectrum. Legacy doesn't.

I completely disagree that Legacy is boring. They are the top heel faction on Raw.

Someone already beat me to it, but it's because they're the ONLY ONE on Raw. It's the fact they keep getting their ass kicked by Shane McMahon. So they're really a good heel faction, when it takes THREE of them to put Shane O' Mac out of commission.

When you tune into Raw every Monday, all of you are waiting to see superstars like HHH, Batista, Shane, and others beat the hell out of Legacy just so they will shut up. If that's true, Legacy has done their job.

Umm...no they haven't, because no one cares either way. No one cares if someone comes out to beat them up.


They bring out real emotion in all of you, just like Vickie Guerrero. You begin to hate them so much while they're in character that you begin to just hate them PERIOD.

You're seriously using the Vickie Gurrerro argument? First of all, Vickie generates ten times more heat than Legacy...and the thing is NO ONE hates Legacy...they're just boring.

It's a great formula for a true heel. This is the goal that the WWE is trying to reach. If it wasn't for Legacy, Batista, HHH, and Shane would have no one to elevate them. They're all doing their jobs well.

Wow. Just wow. You haven't watched Raw lately have you?

All of you need to go grab a box of tissues and cry yourselves a river somewhere else.. Stop bitching on this website about the same old crap because in my opinion, that's the only thing that is becoming STALE.

What's becoming stale is people like you who try to come in here on your damn high horse because you're satisfied with the product. If you are, then fine. If you don't like the bitching, there are plenty of forums that would suit your poor taste in wrestling programming.
 
I can see a little bit of a personality in DiBiasi. He seems to be a bit better on the mike when given the opportunity and I believe he was further along in his training than Rhodes. It's almost like they forced Rhodes into the spotlight after he and Dustin inducted his dad into the Hall of Fame.
 
AND THIS IS THE GREATEST POINT EVER ON THIS SUBJECT a "stable" is suppossed to pose a threat to the roster right?! these guys dont pose a threat to anyone but shane who is not a wrestler..sure as shit dont pose one to batista..they should..but the way wwe paints muscle heads thats not even a possibility.. inclosing this is the problem concerning ratrings right?! lets be honest..it's not exciting..the build up for the ppv in two weeks is horrible..and the only thing that can save the angle is or at least make it a little more interesting,ironicly enough, the same reason why it sucks..TRIPLE H returns :(
 
All of you need to go grab a box of tissues and cry yourselves a river somewhere else.. Stop bitching on this website about the same old crap because in my opinion, that's the only thing that is becoming STALE.[/QUOTE]

WHAT?! that is soooooo stupid. thats what fourms are for..not for holding hands btw. you cant honestly say that with any prior knowledge you have of the way other factions worked, that this is even in you're top 50 stables..thats assuming you know anything about wrestling stables...but if you do think this is even good you should never watch wrestling ever agian. if you think this is cool then its you who are responsible for lack of watchable wwe programing.
 
I absolutely love Legacy. But I do believe that the people who say the group is boring has hit on the key reason why Legacy isn't getting over as well as it should.

The problem is that the group isn't dominate. When a new faction is established the first thing they should do is dominate their initial feud. They were well on their way to doing that. They took out Vince. They won the Royal Rumble. They took out Shane. They took out Stephanie. All that was left was Hunter and I'm willing to bet that if they would have done that at 'Mania and moved on to a returning Batista everyone would be behind them.

Instead, Vince and Shane returned the week prior to 'Mania. Stephanie helped Hunter on RAW. Hunter actually retained the friggin' title at 'Mania. Shane and Batista helped Hunter at Backlash and it still took a convoluted match for Legacy to take the WWE title. Instead of being dominate the group just looked like typical chickenshit heels who had a problem taking on an old man and his graying son. Even when they beat up Shane now it takes all three of them.

Orton is trying to cement his Legacy and instead they look pathetic. The only reason why I'm able to look past that and love the group is because I see a lot of potential. I think DiBiase is going to be a breakout start and once Orton can finally get away from Hunter I expect him to be a fairly dominate champion. This is going to be the problem for any heel on RAW. With Batista, Cena and Hunter around it's going to be insanely difficult for anyone else to get a foothold.

This all goes back to the point that I think almost everyone agreed on at the time. Orton absolutely had to win the WWE title at Wrestlemania 25. Anything less was unacceptable and it'd take one hell of an effort for him to solidfy himself as RAW's premiere heel if he didn't get the job done. Surprise, surprise. Hunter wanted a 'Mania win so his ego was more important than smart booking. Orton and Legacy in general now have a LONG road in front of them if they want to get people behind them.
 
I like Legacy and they really are one of my main reasons for watching RAW. I personally wouldn't say they were boring but I can see why some people's view may sway that way...but I feel the problem is, Cody or Ted have not been allowed to truly shine. I think both have a lot of potential and I think both will eventually carve out great careers (on a side note, yeh I think Dibiase has potential but I'm sick of certain circles talking like he's the second coming or something, certainly at this point Rhodes has accomplished more and looks better to me, but that's my opinion anyway). But back to the original point, neither Rhodes or Dibiase have been allowed to get a career defining victory as yet (e.g. on the last RAW neither got a clean win, had they pinned MVP or Batista respectively that would have done wonders for them but alas that wasn't allowed to happen!!!!) Essentially, up until now they have been Orton's bitches and I'm guilty of trying to say otherwise at times but truth is that's all they have been. Legacy needs to be more than just about Orton, Rhodes and Dibiase need a program of their own, the commentators shouln't be telling us they are like carbon copies of Orton because we don't need another 2 Orton's, I want them to be their own people. Both need more mike time of their own and maybe even a feud of their own as well. Mere association with Orton is not going to get these guys over and again if truth be told they are not over yet..they are defo getting there but there's a lot of work to be done yet. Sorry about the long rambling on but it's only because I believe it's the truth about the Legacy...I want them to succeed but I just hope WWE doesn't ruin what could still be a great faction. Don't get me wrong, I like what they're doing but I'm just suggesting what I think needs to happen in order for them to truly succeed...
 
I like the idea of the Legacy. I just don't think they've pulled it off quite yet. I still think they're trying to build it slowly for a change. At least, that's what I hope. I think they should have Vickie and Chavo Guerrero in it too. Talk about a heel faction! The heat Vickie gets transfers directly to the Legacy. They also need one more big guy to be the bruiser and I.C champion and have Priceless be a dominant tag team, then you have the perfect stable/faction to run rampant on Raw. Maybe hire Umaga's cousin, or was it brother, back to the WWE. I think his name was Rosie, or it could be Jamal. I'm not sure. Or let Sim Snuka back in again. He was a bigger man. Or maybe the Big Show since he's Andre the Giant's son(kayfabe). Or they could just create a character that's the son of someone(again, kayfabe) Create someone that is Harley Race's son or someone that is Jake the Snake's son. That would cure the "boring" sentiments for sure. That's only if the WWE writers can get it right.
 
The IDEA for Legacy is there. It just doesn't flow with me though because I feel Orton is still slightly wooden, I'm sorry, I don't buy him with his frothing at the mouth all crazy lookin bullshit thing he does. Dibiase has potential and Rhodes just looks like a 12 year told kid.


The concept is there, the execution kind of sucks.
 
I keep hearing that Heel factions are suppose to be feared, Heel are cowards so a faction would be a bunch of cowards no one fears them. They can destroy people but no one is gonna fear them. The horsemen weren't feard dusty took them on all the time. D-x werent feared no one feared the hart foundation. Who feared evolution....not goldberg, hell randy orton was apart of the group knew what they could do and didn't fear them. only stable that was kinda fear IMO was the corporation and the ministry. That because you could either get fired at any time or sacrificed and brainwashed.

Storyline wise it would make nom sense for any one in the latest fued to fear legacy. Why would the Mcmahons fear Legacy , They are the most powerful Wrestling Family in the world Why would they fear Orton and his boys. They can cheat into domination but they can't be feared. Theyre cowards.
 
yes but the horsemen also beat some ass all be it usually a 4 on 1 or 2 but it didn't matter they were feared because they were bad asses and they had titles all of them at one point..they weren't cowards they were cheaters...the fact is, yes, the idea of legacy is good but not what they are...i dont even understand why they even picked these 2...cause there dads were cool? icon dude, you gotta watch some old school horsemen stuff they punked everybody and some for no reason at all (Ricky Morton)
 
I think what it boils down to is that people are impossible to please. Instead of waiting for things to build slowly or for long term storylines (and stables) they want everything quickly. Now, now, now. The WWE, in my opinion, has done a fine job with Legacy and is building them up very nicely. I don't find them boring at all, but I don't have a short attention span or impossible expectations, either. People seem to forget that Evolution also revolved entirely around Triple H and his quest for (or to keep) the Heavyweight championship. Evolution was made out to be the past, the present, and the future.. and it certainly became that, no doubt, in its lasting legacy. But at the time of the stable Batista was nothing but muscle and a lackey, Ric Flair was nothing but a shadow of what he use to be and a lackey for Triple H, praising and doing everything for him. Aside from a brief, short tag team title reign neither of those two did anything but aide Triple H in every main event feud he had as he dominated the Heavyweight title picture. Orton held the Intercontinental championship and was becoming a break out star during that time, becoming a top heel with huge momentum and when he became a threat to Triple H as that impressive heel the WWE turned him face, took away all his momentum, and made him lose to Triple H. Its a testament to Orton's ability that he regrouped and rebounded so well and is in the place he's at now, once again as a top heel.

But the fact is, Batista and Orton only became the main eventers and big stars they are now after they broke ties with the Evolution stable, which is the way its suppose to be. So why would anyone expect anything less in terms of Legacy? So far everything's revolved around Orton's hunt to capture the championship, his feud with the McMahons, and now that that is seemingly over you may very well see things spread out a bit and go in other directions. People just need to watch things play out. But to say Dibiase and Rhodes are ONLY lackeys to Orton and have not shown anything else impressive at all, to me, is highly short sighted and I have to wonder if anyone whose bitching is even watching the shows. Dibiase and Rhodes have been feuding with the tag team champions the Colons and could easily be getting a title shot soon. Dibiase has had several matches with Batista and in neither of them did he get dominated but instead he held his own. This is Batista! The animal, a former champion, a main eventer and Dibiase has competed and done well against him. He even got a victory over Batista, didn't he? That's not the image of a lackey to me, that's the image of a young, rising star who has enough ability to compete with a main eventer. I think Dibiase and Rhodes have both been impressive (Dibiase more to me) and I think as things continue to build you'll see more and more from the other members of Legacy, but this is meant to be a long term thing and its not going to all unfold right now. No different then Evolution, and I bet tons of fans back then bitched and moaned about Evolution for the same exact reasons. Now people realize the benefit of Evolution and what came out of it, and I bet it'll be the same with Legacy down the road.
 
i agree legacy is boring!! Legacy is all about Orton and to me Orton has become a very boring character...WWE needs to do something crazy to spice things up...first i think they need to bring steph back cause i hate vicki and she is not a good GM..then i think that ted and cody should turn their backs on randy and become there own characters..that will help them build their own names cause right now no one cares about them!! i just think this storyline needs to end or they do something to make it intersting again!! Oh and triple h needs to come back hes the only reason i watch and sense hes not on im def. bored...
 
Legacy to me, is just another Evolution type storyline in the making. I'm willing to bet that in the end, Rhodes and DiBiase will win a tag title or two, maybe the US title, etc.

Then Triple H and the McMahons will come and demolish Legacy and disband them, etc, etc. Seen it all before.
 
legacy is not boring. raw is boring. the storylines suck, main eventers are stale, and boring it is time for some younger guys to step up. if raw had the new hart foundation and let them debut 2-3 months ago, they could be in a feud with rhodes and ted jr. and make the tag team division mean something again. rhodes and ted jr have a name priceless but no titles. dumb move.put gold on them. hhh and orton has already wrestled before and every night on raw before wrestlemania and the last pay per view. i don't even know the name because it was so lame. who wants to see a three on three with the same people who just wrestled on the raw the monday before the pay per view. sos. send hhh to smackdown, batista to ecw, orton champ on raw, priceless tag champs. morrison, mvp, christian, and the hart foundation on raw. and get rid of the damn pg. have pg on your other shows. ecw, raw and smackdown never pg they are all latenight, 9-11 pm. superstars and the other show should be on in the mornings on sat and sun and should be pg. in the late 80s and early 90s wwe had a show on usa on sundays at around 12 noon. and it was recap and fresh matches. do something like that.
 
One of the reasons Legacy is so boring is because their leader is so boring. Whenever Randy Orton is on screen I wanna change the channel (half the time i do). He's not entertaining at all. His dialogue: Line .... wait for audience response ..... line ..... wait for audience response .... and so on. He doesn't flow, he doesnt say anything remotely entertaining. He is boring. I agree that Cody is a leech and Ted has a future as a singles competitor.
 
legacy is not boring. raw is boring. the storylines suck, main eventers are stale, and boring it is time for some younger guys to step up. if raw had the new hart foundation and let them debut 2-3 months ago, they could be in a feud with rhodes and ted jr. and make the tag team division mean something again. rhodes and ted jr have a name priceless but no titles. dumb move.put gold on them. hhh and orton has already wrestled before and every night on raw before wrestlemania and the last pay per view. i don't even know the name because it was so lame. who wants to see a three on three with the same people who just wrestled on the raw the monday before the pay per view. sos. send hhh to smackdown, batista to ecw, orton champ on raw, priceless tag champs. morrison, mvp, christian, and the hart foundation on raw. and get rid of the damn pg. have pg on your other shows. ecw, raw and smackdown never pg they are all latenight, 9-11 pm. superstars and the other show should be on in the mornings on sat and sun and should be pg. in the late 80s and early 90s wwe had a show on usa on sundays at around 12 noon. and it was recap and fresh matches. do something like that.

Agreed with you on the bolded parts.

Hart Foundation is way overdue. This is why I don't watch WWE alot. I'm a TNA guy, specifically for their tag division.

WWE really, REALLY, needs to take a few lessons from TNA, get ECW's tag division going, etc, etc. You get the idea.
 
Priceless just been made to look weak again by getting beaten down backstage and then simply destroyed by Batista who had just been in a match, despite it being 3 on 1.

Why are they being buried?

I agree with the above post, had the Hart Foundation 2.0 been debuted, they could have had a fantastic programme full of the young stars of tomorrow.

Instead, we're dreading tomorrow.
 
Well tonight was the first episode of RAW I've watched in close to 8 monthes, and I can see I've been missing absolutely nothing on RAW. The whole Legacy stable that came out was just...bleh. Maybe I'm just getting old, but it just seems so incredibly played out. We've seen the same cocky-young-guys stable ten million times before, do we really need it again? Though that's not really even the problem, the young-studs stable idea could easily still work, you just need a little spark of creativity and some talent in the stable. I mean, they're all talented wrestlers, but not one of them is very good when it comes to promos. When Orton started doing the whole insulting the audience thing, I was just thinking to myself, really? That's got to literally[/b] be the oldest trick in the heel-tactics book.

RAW and Legacy didn't quite impress me, hopefully Smackdown will live up to all the raves I've been reading about it recently.
 
i agree legacy is boring!!

How are they boring? They're one of the most interestring things at the moment; something the WWE brought in to please people, probably.

Legacy is all about Orton and to me Orton has become a very boring character...WWE needs to do something crazy to spice things up...first i think they need to bring steph back cause i hate vicki and she is not a good GM..

The whole point is/was to hate her - she's one of the best heels I've seen in a long time. And she's obviously worked you. Go Vickie.

then i think that ted and cody should turn their backs on randy and become there own characters..that will help them build their own names cause right now no one cares about them!!

Of course that will happen at some point. But if it happens straight away still no one will care. Orton > Them.

i just think this storyline needs to end or they do something to make it intersting again!!

But what, exactly? Everything the WWE does people claim it's 'boring'.


Oh and triple h needs to come back hes the only reason i watch and sense hes not on im def. bored...

Then don't watch it? Triple H is a great wrestler, but he's not the only thing WWE has to offer.
 

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