What was the point of Carlito/Umaga? What is the point of any tag team? Not to mention I just got done explaining exactly why? They are both part of the wrestling legacy.
Who are you arguing with dude?
I just want to point some stuff out....
We the IWC know that Umaga is part of a Wrestling Legacy, but WWE have never mentioned it. If they did that, they'd probably have to mention he was Jamal in 3 Minute Warning as well. I'd skip mentioning Umaga for the rest of your argument if i were you.
I never said that all these men should come out together every week. However with three shows you could have a very large stable. Each stable would affect its own show. Look at how interesting the Royal Rumble would have been?
Everyone would help each other stay in and avoid eliminating their friends. So, they'd whittle down to the people who liked each other and the Rumble would go on for absolute ages. And please don't say 'it's everyman for himself' when not 3 weeks ago a stable secured victory by doing the esact opposite. I fail to see how multiple stables who work together occassionally squaring off in the Rumble would be more interesting than a usual Rumble where that didn't happen. Care to elaborate?
The idea was to stress how much this "legacy" is growing. Yes, I know Finlay and others were left off. And? Not every man or woman has to be in this stable. Besides there has to be some "face" next gen stars. Orton, Umaga, and Carlito are all friends backstage. They have all travelled with one antoher.
Totally irrelevant in the world of kayfabe.
Again Orton's character will stick to what he knows works and wouldn't extend his hand out to other heels whether they actually want to help him or not. The point of Legacy is not that EVERY 2nd gen talent become friends or ally themselves with other 2nd gen guys, it's to emulate the success (rip off) of Evolution which in turn was a rip off of the Four Horsemen. A small group of guys who dominated the organisation they were part of. Just like the NWO. 2 guys come to invade WCW, a 3rd more iconic member joins the ranks, they have a great run for a while, add the occassional guy to the numbers every so often until eventually you've got 2 NWO's which consist of like 20 guys each, and totally ruined the program.
As soon as that small dominant group grew larger, it became shit. Your suggesting that Legacy expand to EVERY show, but not everyone calls themselves Legacy, and they jump and switch shows at random to help each other out?
They are the most over of any of the stars that I mentioned thus far. In turn they are on the "A" show. I've already explained this, and it makes sense. This is something that has never been done before in wrestling, and no the NWO wasn't the same. This isn't a hostile takeover.
I don't know how you can say that Umaga is over when he hasn't been on TV in months, and since when has Carlito been one of the 'most over guys' outside of Mexico?
You're right Legacy isn't a hostile takeover of WWE like the NWO was to WCW, but it is a small group that kicks everyone's asses like the NWO isn't it?
It is an alliance of next gen stars who aware that they are part of wrestling history. This is the plus to the WWE having 3 seperate shows. Something like this can carry itself out.
The brand separation is supposed to make WWE seem like 3 different companies. Yes they get together for the PPVs, and yes talent appear all over the place and win each other's titles, but that's due to Teddy Long's 'Talent exchange' where guys go from ECW to Raw/SD the GMs aren't gong to come together and let each others talent run around on whatever show they like, and 3 separate stables with the exact same premise is just a total lack of imagination.
Would you be inclined to watch Umaga, Carlito, Primo and Jesse team up on SD banging on about being 2nd gen when Orton and Priceless do the exact same thing on Monday nights?
I would have enjoyed Orton walking these men out on RAW, and with these individuals giving them their 15 miutes of fame. Each and every wrestler state who they are, and what they plan on accomplishing while their in the WWE.
How would that have made fans care? Just walking out and saying 'hi, i'm Sim Snuka, i'm the son of Jimmy 'Superfly' Snuka, and i want everyone to forget i was in that gay greasers tag team, because i'm now going to be the face of the WWE'
I'm sure that would have equalled a lot of remotes being grabbed, and channels changed.
This would have allowed for something to develop each and every week. Spread this talent over the whole WWE, and you have something you have never seen in the WWE before.
For a good reason.
A union of men who have a legit tie with one another through the world of professional wrestling.
WWE may think it's the WORLD of pro wrestling, but it's not. You're saying they should use the same gimmick 3 times on 3 shows at once.
Even if they aren't close friends it can be scripted to say that they in fact are. No, they don't all have to be called Legacy, as I stated earlier each should have its own look, name, and music.
You can't have two guys who were face and heel turn around and say 'yeah he's lots of fun on the road', and then they team up every now and then. You certainly can't do that with Umaga, he doesn't speak any English, unless you're suggesting we have two guys become the 'Hans and Chewy' of WWE.
Own name, own music, own entrance, same premise.
Not to mention the feuds that could develop inside of this overwhelming squadron of next gen stars.
Fued time is only given to ME talent and nobody else, dude.
This allows for there to be a theme going on in the WWE with all of these men, while everything else carries on. Knowing that there is that bond between a large group of stars seems interesting.
It's only interesting to those of us who hold out hope for more cross brand stuff on TV, which ain't gonna happen. If we have anymore time dedicated to getting storylines over that are loosley held together, there'll be no wrestling at all!
Survivor Series could interesting. Interpromotional feuds could get better between the members. Something similar to the "Fight Club" theme. Every now and then they fight, but for the most part they function on their own show respectively.
Only if they have Raw v Smackdown, which the past 2 years they haven't. It's always been a mish mash of guys who are fueding beforehand. They wouldn't have stable members or 'frat bro's' against each other
Something of a fraternity, and not so much a stable. Get what I mean? This would be more of an organization, or society. Working their own gig on their own shows, but whenever they feel the need to gather together they become the most dominating force in the WWE's existence.
So, WWE would benefit from having something that resembles the Legion of Doom that only ever get together on PPV to take on random guys that have pissed them off during their individual runs on TV? Most of your PPVs would consist mainly of 10 man tag matches and 6 man HIAC's would they?
