Kane...What happened?

[iwin122]

iii think kane is talking about his old self when he wore the mask they might be bringing the mask back and thats whats in his little bag
and hes wondering if the mask is dead or alive....like th emask is talknig to him or something

 

[SpiralHands]

I was really intrigued into this storyline and I had to think that when he mentioned it the first time it was the Undertaker. Or perhaps that Kane was trying to kill Vince and Vince would have to bring Taker back to stop him. But now since hes had the little Burlap bag with him I have to believe that it is Kanes mask and that Kane is talking somehow about himself and will be remasked. Correct if im wrong but its coming up to Summerslam where Kane first lost the mask against Taker in a match so perhaps this Summerslam he will gain it back obviously not by facing Taker though. But this is a great storyline and I cant wait to see where it ends.

 

[Suneeboy]

He has to attack someone and that person accidentally throws something in his face. Maybe hot coffee backstage or something like that. He can't just put it on as we know what his face looks like. He has to become deformed again to add mystery, misery, and suffering to the character.

Also Paul Bearer would be a great touch. His promos are priceless.

 

[simpsons_fanatic742]

I agree. It would be pretty hard to accept the mask without something happening to Kane's face. Granted, people would mark out hard when they first see the mask, but after a couple times of seeing it the effect would fizzle out. But if something were to deform his face and we don't see what that looks like before he puts the mask on then that would add suspence to the character and thus a longer reaction time.

 

[Razz]

I read on this post someone said something about Kane showing his old traits. On this weeks RAW 7-28-08 if you notice when Kane came out and hit JBL then they stared at each other..Kane sort of tilted his head and looked at him in a weird way. Exactly how the old masked Kane would. I think they are definitely going the mask angle in some shape or form...

 

[48.7 is Approximately 49 Times Better Than You]

Well, at first, I thought the mask.. I still do.. But, the way Dub Dub E is going right now, anything could happen. My second guess is HBK's hair..
No, for real. It's got to be the mask. Has to. He is starting to kill things again. He hasn't been pushed this much in a looong time and the mask and WHC will be the final touch of the rebirth of a monster.. I think something will have to happen to his face.. Maybe a GTS really, really screwing up his nose? I don't know. I personally can't wait.

 

[MasterDebator]

Well, at first, I thought the mask.. I still do.. But, the way Dub Dub E is going right now, anything could happen. My second guess is HBK's hair..
No, for real. It's got to be the mask. Has to. He is starting to kill things again. He hasn't been pushed this much in a looong time and the mask and WHC will be the final touch of the rebirth of a monster.. I think something will have to happen to his face.. Maybe a GTS really, really screwing up his nose? I don't know. I personally can't wait.

HILARIOUS!

Seriously, this angle is getting old. If it's not done by or at SS, this burlap sack/alive or dead thing is going to go the way of Jericho's return. The contents will either leak or people will get tired. I love the fact that WWE is giving us storylines with everyone and not just to main-eventers but at some point storylines have to end. I mean, what has he done on the past two Raws that has furthered the story? Get on with it WWE.

 

[Dead Kennedy]

The program has been a bit weird and confusing at times, but I'm definitely psyched to see Kane turning heel again. Ever since he lost his mask to Triple H, he's lost his momentum. He became just a deranged bald guy with a loopy eye and a laughter that would make Warren T. Rat envious. He became an afterthought, and although still a great worker, Kane's character stopped appealing to me the way it did from the day he entered WWF.

Kane can work a good match with just about anyone, and he is one of WWF's most loyal and devoted workers. Heck, he even says he doesn't need a title run, he just wants to put new guys over! Employee of the year Championship to this guy.

Shilling aside, I really hope the secret of the bag is solved soon, because just as Master Debator said, it's gonna get stale and become more obvious than Jericho's return. But we would all still mark out.

 

[RBH]

While I like that he is heel again, I am more annoyed that his story has not progressed yet and he does not even have a proper feud with anyone. The Kane storyline needs to move on or this will end up like the Jericho debut. WWE has gotta learn that they cannot drag a storyline out for 2 months and expect us to care. Fans have short attention spans these days and this storyline is proving it to be true. We want to know what is in that bag and frankly at this point I do not think it is the mask because if you all remember Glen Jacobs did not want to wear the mask anymore due to health reasons. WWE would not force it on him if it could kill him. I simply do not know but thing is for sure, I am getting tired of waiting.

 

[48.7 is Approximately 49 Times Better Than You]

You know, everyone is going to cheer Kane when he walks out wearing his mask. The only way for him to effectively turn heel would be to just walk out and kill someone like Shawn Michaels. Even then, even after Kane decimates my favorite guy, I wouldn't find it in me to boo him. Though, on RAW I think people finally realized that he was heel because there were quite a few boos.. More so than cheers. I'm excited for his heel turn. I hope it brings him a WHC at Summerslam.

 

[savage138]

You know, everyone is going to cheer Kane when he walks out wearing his mask. The only way for him to effectively turn heel would be to just walk out and kill someone like Shawn Michaels. Even then, even after Kane decimates my favorite guy, I wouldn't find it in me to boo him. Though, on RAW I think people finally realized that he was heel because there were quite a few boos.. More so than cheers. I'm excited for his heel turn. I hope it brings him a WHC at Summerslam.

I agree. Kane has become a fan favorite over the years, and a lot of people are going to find it hard to boo him for anything short of maliciously or flagrantly injuring guys like HBK or John Cena.

I think a heel turn for Kane is long overdue, and I believe putting the mask back on him is a good move as well. For years Kane and that mask were synonimous with one another, and removing it from him never panned out as it should have. The mask is what set Kane apart from other wrestlers in the WWF/E, and it's what made him a star. With the mask Kane was more than just another big man, and since they've taken it away from him he's been nothing but.

At the end of the day the mask will at least give Kane an angle for a while, and that's better than pretty much anything he's been doing over the past few years. At least this angle is something, and Kane deserves some attention for putting over other wrestlers for so long.

A man of Kane's intimidating stature shouldn't be jobbing out to anyone, and putting his mask back on will revert his character back to what it once was. I can easily see a nearly unstoppable Kane pushing his way to a title reign in the near future, and he'll have the mask to thank for it.

Only time will tell though...

 

[latino_heat]

seeing as GAB has come and gone and bearer didnt return (as i wanted) and takers fueding with edge so i doubt its him i would love for kane to come out at summerslam with the old mask and just go on a monster heel run for months just destroying all superstars from hbk to rey mysterio to kofi kingston and it could hopefully lead to a second world title for kane which should last a lot longer than a day

 

[phat_inallthegoodplaces]

now that adamle is GM and he's making funky matches already, i see kane getting involved in an inferno match with someone. doesn't matter who, as long as he loses, or if he faces punk, he wins but punk knocks him into the fire anyway and gets his face burned. (it would also be a great promo for SDVR 09 since the inferno match has been added to the game).

 

[WrestlingDude]

ive noticed sumthing about this new change in kane. he using more grappling moves and being more of a technical wrestler. hes not giving ppl the normal beatdown, but a leg scissors and body shots. could this all be apart of it?

 

[Antleader]

Back when Kane first appeared, Undertaker was feuding with HBK because HBK had cost him his championship (Or kept him from getting it). I, personally see a resemblance, not only did Edge cost Undertaker his championship and his "career". And again, it is in a hell in a cell match, just like it was with HBK. So, is it possible that Kane will come out as the masked Kane again and attack the Undertaker or something like that?

 

[bunnyman1985]

it would be good if they built the suspense up of is he alive or dead every week an then like do a big shock at the end instead of doing it one week then 2 weeks later.

it cant be the undertaker cause it looks like he wil be on smackdown for the forseeable future

so that only leaves paul bearer,vince or the mask

it could be the mask in the bag BUT it would be a bit stupid if it was the mask and he went back to wearing it with a bald head cause it wouldnt go.

Now personally i think kane should get a manager someone who would be a great heel an that person who would be a match made in heaven with kane is james mitchell

 

[Razz]

it could be the mask in the bag BUT it would be a bit stupid if it was the mask and he went back to wearing it with a bald head cause it wouldnt go.

Well if you remember when Kane unmasked in the match against Triple H, it was revealed he was wearing a wig with the mask and only had a little spot of hair. I'm sure it was only for that day he was wearing a wig but he could wrestle with a wig until his real hair grows back heh..

Back when Kane first appeared, Undertaker was feuding with HBK because HBK had cost him his championship (Or kept him from getting it). I, personally see a resemblance, not only did Edge cost Undertaker his championship and his "career". And again, it is in a hell in a cell match, just like it was with HBK. So, is it possible that Kane will come out as the masked Kane again and attack the Undertaker or something like that?

Interesting, a possibility I haven't seen. But I'm not sure if they want to go a Kane vs Ut feud again and they are on different shows. Also I dunno if the Edge/UT feud will end for sure at Summerslam. It's possible we could have all sorts of intereference, now that Foley was attacked. Maybe Foley and others will get involved at Summerslam, or he will just retaliate on Smackdown.

 

[Dark Blaze]

Whatever this angle is building up to, I think WWE should start dropping more hints as I hope they're getting closer to pulling the trigger on whatever I is. Correct me if I'm wrong, but was there any new development in the storyline after Kane stared bringing out the burtlap sack? WWE needs to maintain interest in this, they have something going here, I missed psychotic Kane, and though he's a fan favorite, he is getting boos, and I hope the cheers he's getting currently will be converted to boos since I think WWE's probably waiting for him to get fully over as a heel in order to pull the trigger.

I almost hope it isn't the mask because that's what everyone's expecting and I wouldn't mind a pleasant surprise, they just need to pull it off correctly. And if it is the mask, then I hope they have a perfect explanation coming. All in all, I just hope I'm not disappointed to much when this story line concludes.

 

[Tim]

Has WWE drop this storyline? I can't remember the last time they did something with this storyline. Kane was at his best playing the psychotic deranged monster, it seemed to fit him so well. The only problem is whether he WWE will follow this through if it happens or just leave him to fade into the background, like a lot of their other superstars.

Kane needs to become this monster, because he doesn't have the personality not to be a monster. He is a tall dark figure and he nees to become it again.

 

[Suneeboy]

In my opinion:

He has to get scarred at Summerslam and he can't face the UT at WM because he will have to job to him and you can't have him job in his first match back in his new gimmick. He can come back at WM but have him interfere in someone's match. I agree with the time off so he can get back in shape and grow his hair.

 

[derkman7]

In my opinion, this storyline has been playing out ever since Kane first teamed with Punk in their attempt to win the Tag Team Championships. Kane has been on a losing streak since that time. He even lost the non-title match with Mark Henry the week before the paperview.
This explains why Kane needed the match with Punk. He needed to know if it was Punk's or his fault for the losses. Punk won their match, thus further angering Kane.
This streak put Kane into a frenzy, arising the old diabolical Kane. On this weeks RAW though, (and SNME) Kane picked up a victory. Afterward, Kane was happy and stated that his old self was dead.
This makes me believe that it must be the mask in the bag. Kane is in a psychological battle with himself, and we will apparently find out which side wins next week on RAW.

 

[Dark Blaze]

Well after tonight's RAW, I'm wondering where WWE is going exactly, Kane was apparently in some internal conflict, asking himself whether "he" was alive or dead and all of a sudden he comes out saying that he's dead? And now, Adamle is going to make Kane reveal what is in the bag now, can't wait.

Wouldn't be surprised if Kane goes all ballistic on Adamle and then revealing that "he" as in his former self was still alive and kicking. However, I don't think doing that would turn him heel, he's still getting alot of cheers as a fan favorite, he needs a truly disgusting thing to push him into heel-town and facing Adamle, who is detested by the audience, won't do that.

I'm highly interested to see where WWE is going with this.

 

[Davi323]

I don't believe for one second that this angle is done. Its just the calm before the real storm happens. It makes for better drama to tease something, back off of it, and then go full blast back into it, just when we relax our guard. I almost want to say that because Kane says he is okay now, that it is a guarantee that he won't be okay, and that as it turns out, "he" is really alive, and very pissed off. In my first post in this thread, I predicted he was referring to himself, in 3rd person, as the masked evil Kane. I have seen absolutely nothing to dissuade me from that. By Kane saying "he is dead", what is really going to happen is "he is alive", and it will be a surprise when he becomes unleashed again.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

After this latest episode of Raw, there were two segments that got me thinking about this topic.

1) Kane attacks Striker, a heel. He basically apologizes, then says "he's dead". But, he keeps the bag. If they were keeping him heel, wouldn't he have attacked someone like Paul London or whatever? Adamle, of all people, claims to want to force Kane into showing what's in the bag next week.

2) Batista sure as hell acted like the heel between himself and Cena tonight, didn't he? Refused the tag and such. Now, they're tag champions. Usually, tag champs that aren't a gimmick team (and even sometimes if they are) end up being one heel and one face, wherein they split up because the heel officially turns on the face, costing them the titles. MVP turns on Matt (though MVP was a heel the whole time, and clearly), Rhodes turns on Holly, Cade turns on Murdoch, blah blah blah. I can't see them being tag champs long, as Batista will cost them a title match down the line, hopefully to Rhodes/DiBiase again, as they're good champions.

These two things though, on top of the rumors that they want to turn Batista heel to become allies with Orton, has me wondering....are they going to pull a switcharoo and make it so Kane puts on the mask, attacks Adamle, and reverts back to a FACE monster, and at the same time, Batista turns heel against Cena? I can't see both of these guys being faces or both being heels. Maybe this is their way of compensating for how "masked Kane" would probably be cheered.

 

[phat_inallthegoodplaces]

i think kane was talking about his current self when he said "he's dead". he just decimated stryker (although i was hoping kane would put him through the chalkboard.lol.), and he had his maniacal grin on when he said it. i think he meant soft, face kane is dead.
i also think that since kelly kelly brought it up with adamle last night, she'll be there next week with adamle when they make kane reveal the contents of the bag, allowing kane to freak out and destroy kelly to make the full heel turn.


on a side note:
[/QUOTE] I can't see them being tag champs long, as Batista will cost them a title match down the line, hopefully to Rhodes/DiBiase again, as they're good champions. [/QUOTE]

i don't see how they were good champions, IMO. i mean, they ganged up on holly, beat some locals, picked on jim duggan, beat a couple of commentators, and lost the titles in a near squash match. and it would've been a squash if they didn't get cena in those consecutive sleepers. i just wasn't impressed with them all that much. (although i feel bad for cody. he'll never have good mic skills with that lisp of his.)


so anyway. kane destroys kelly = heel turn.