Kane...What happened?

[Mr. Showtime]

I'm still excited to see the outcome of all this. But as hard as I try I can't push the thought out of my head, that no matter what's in the bag it's not going to save Kane's career. It's a sad but true fact. Ring attire does NOT improve your wrestling abillity. None the less it should make for some entertaining promo's for the near future. At least Kane can still kick ass.

 

[TheTruNoLimit]

I don't think the angle has necessarily been going on too long. My beef with the entire thing is that Kane went from being the focal point of Raw to an afterthought this past Monday.

The angle started with Batista beating Kane and Kane screaming is he alive or dead and going psycho on the announcers. During the 2nd week of the angle, Kane demanded that he face CM Punk, and walked around with a bag in his hand, and after he lost to Punk via countout, he snapped again, and was going to take Punk out before Batista could make the save. During the 3rd week, Kane comes out at the Bash and takes out both Punk and Batista and then asks the same question. On Raw, a confrontation has Kane getting the better of Batista. The fourth week, Kane comes to the ring to mix it up with JBL and Punk and later in the night Kane and JBL lose to Cena and Batista in tag action.

Now, with Kane mixing it up with Punk EVERY SINGLE WEEK and even mixing it up with JBL, I thought it was only logical that there would be a 3-way for the title at Summerslam to keep Kane fresh in everyone's mind. If Kane stayed involved in the World Title hunt then the contents of the bag could very well be delayed because Kane would have bigger fish to fry so to speak.

But the curious part is, after giving Kane a push with all the main eventers on the brand for a solid month, WHY DID WWE just DROP KANE OUT OF THE MAIN EVENT PICTURE ENTIRELY when all signs pointed to Kane being in a title match at Summerslam?

Instead, he destroys Matt Striker and that's it?

To me, that is the most annoying part is that when WWE tries to push Kane, they always manage to somehow screw up the upward momentum they at first create for him.

 

[slimmshady]

I think wwe were going to push Kane and the original plan seemed to result in a feud with batista or/and cm punk but I think what wwe are trying to do is to first expose whats in the sack before they go for the big push and the rumors that are going around this forum, its got to be the mask so maybe they want to push the masked kane instead of the original one. But like I stated previously, I think wwe will show the struggle between the two sides of kane in the form of the masked kane vs normal kane but it will be more mentally than physically. However, the end result will be like I said before, some matches kane will appear as his original self and some he will appear with the mask on representing the struggle inside of his head. Its quite similar to the storyline of the green goblin in spiderman. Where there was a constant struggle between the good side of peter's best friend harry and the evil green goblin side. And Basically, I think that this is the only true way of bringing back the masked kane, even if it is for a brief period. Also I think that wwe tried to bring back the masked kane in 2006 when the original kane ripped of the masked from the fake kane and threw him out of the ring. But it seemed that there was no actual purpose for kane to where his mask again back then but now the story seems to be plotting out OK.

 

[a7xoff]

Nice twist tonight on Raw. Rey Mysterio vs Kane seems to be the next feud that Kane will be involved in. Something still remains to be seen though.... When Kane says Is he alive or is he dead" is he really talking about Mysterio. I mean what's going to happen if he is? Is he going to learn that he is actually alive and freak out for the 100th time? See the problem with Kane is that WWE seemingly does not know what they want to do with the guy. One minute he's crazy, the next he's down and out for the three count. I can see Rey coming back to have a match with Kane, beat him, and then Kane basically fade away. I really can't figure out what they plan on doing with this. I guess we will see...

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

Did anyone else think immediately that this just screams "WWE had no idea what to do, so at the last minute, they just made something up, and now we've had the build up to a conclusion that makes no sense just so we can get some mediocre (or failing) angle in the next few weeks and in retrospect we'll all think it was ridiculous"?

Smell like the Bastard Son storyline, much?

Not only does it not make sense, but its going to result in MATCHES that don't make sense. Mysterio is just too small to be taken seriously when he's the opponent of the bigger guys. So this will just proceed to make Kane look bad. Say goodbye to the prospect that "Kane might have a second shot at a real world title reign" lol.

 

[Suneeboy]

LOL. WWE screws us again and builds up a story to give us something that will just result in mediocore matches. I really didn't see that coming though, so it was a good surprise...but the build up to it made no sense. LOL@myself for thinking the WWE would give the fans what they've been asking for since the start of the angle. Just bring back the damn mask and give Kane one last good run and a World Title then let the guy retire with dignity and go into the Hall of Fame...Now we get another Rey Mysterio underdog feud or an Odd Couple Tag Team Championship run with Kane and Mysterio.

 

[Ozzy33090]

This is yet another example of Creative's spontaneous booking. It just never seems like they PLAN anything. They've been toying with a big Kane push for how many years now? It never comes into fruition.

I really doubt this leads into a Kane/Mysterio program. I'm inclined to think that Mysterio returns and vaults himself into the IC title scene, while Kane fizzles away in trademark fashion. But hey, there's always Striker or Noble to beat up on.

Heck, Kane segments may turn into comedy hour, and he'll be a joke face. A win over Kane nowadays is just as good as one over Jim Duggan.

 

[ryantheking07]

A few people in the live RAW thread think that Kane switched out the bag, since WWE knew the whole bag idea would be spoiled (like the Save_Us thing, and etc as said before) to swerve us/the fans. But, honestly..I don't know..after tonight..something tells me..this is it..We won't get to see Kane in his mask. But, even if we don't..he doesn't need the damn thing to be a monster psycho..

 

[DeadmanInc.]

Well, it was unexpected but rather anti-climatic. To me, this reeks of spontaneous writing by Creative. It seems like they wrote themselves into a corner and didn't know what direction to take with his storyline.

It could be interesting to see where they go with this though. I mean, why the hell would Kane be so concerned about Rey Mysterio? Maybe this is a possible heel turn for Rey.

 

[ryantheking07]

I don't think Rey would turn heel, as the last time we saw him, he had a mini fued with Santino, and Rey wasn't anywhere near Kane..so..why and how would Kane end up burning Rey and killing him?..Rey has done nothing to upset him. An interesting fact to note was that the announcers were pretty much silent when Rey's mask was pulled out, and Adam-aleerwhatever looked on oddly as Kane laughed. I for one, think WWE knew the smarks would find out what was in the bag, so maybe to swerve the fans, they switched the bag out..Perhaps Kane will come out at SS, or Raw next week and say that he tricked Adam-ale, and all of us. Thus, again, having Adam-ale take the real bag from Kane. He snaps, and chokeslams him to hell, and is "suspended" for awhile. Then comes back with this mask. It would be a cool thought, but something inside me, tells me it's not gonna happen, and that will possibly see Rey show up sometime soon with bandages on his face, calling out Kane for hurting him, and then they fued, unfortunately. I doubt WWE would cut him off the roster, as he's a pretty popular draw with the kids. But, if they don't resign him, maybe this is the way they'll write him off..

 

[D.I.S 202]

I still don't think Kane was referring to Mysterio with the "Is he Dead or Alive" comments since it would be very pointless to create all this suspense just for a Kane/Mysterio feud.

However if this is the route their going with Kane than thats proof that creative really has nothing for him and he was better off on ECW where atleast he's in the title picture.

 

[simeon63]

What is the WWE's problem lately? They had two story lines that totally got shot down the crapper. First Adamle as GM of RAW, how lame was that ? Now Kane carrying around Rey Mysterios mask, can anyone say stupid ? Why would Kane care if Rey is dead or not, considering Rey has been on Monday night raw since this lame storyline started. This had allot of potential, it had promise and the WWE failed again. Whoever is writing these big let downs for the WWE should be fired immediately! What is wrong with you people do you want TNA to catch you in the ratings ? This gimmick started of awesome and you allowed it to become some stupid angle to bring the midget back into wrestling.
By the way. you can't turn Kane heel, don't you hear the people cheer for him not matter what you do to him ? For years you have been trying to kill Glenn Jacobs character, but yet he still delivers and keeps the character alive. Yo Vince move on Kane is an icon stop screwing with it.

 

[Rug3r]

Cody Rhodes has great mic skills.

I know this is a bit off topic but I can't wait for Orton to come back, he got injured as soon as Raw started getting good and went through all those changes. I really do hope though that either Y2J or Orton take the title off Punk.

As for Kane, I'm interested to see where they are going with this like the others. Kane can't make up his mind whether he's alive or dead and it seems that the creative team can't make up their mind on whether Kane is a face or a heel. I've seen a lot of good explanations in this thread and I'm pretty sure that he has the mask in the bag. I wonder if he is only going to wear the mask or is his whole attire going to change if it is indeed the mask.

Fucking jinxed ass post.... I knew he wouldn't just wear that mask with no shirt and the same attire


I really want to see why Kane is interested in Rey Mysterio... at first it was Paul Bearer (ruled out), then undertaker (ruled out), then Vince McMahon (never went with that one from the start), then his old self. It seems he got his old persona back but with no mask. They knew we thought it was going to be his mask, then when I heard him say there's a mask in this bag... I was like oh shit... so is he gonna put it on or what? Then when he said it wasn't his mask... I instantly knew it was Rey Mysterio.

What is the WWE's problem lately? They had two story lines that totally got shot down the crapper. First Adamle as GM of RAW, how lame was that ? Now Kane carrying around Rey Mysterios mask, can anyone say stupid ? Why would Kane care if Rey is dead or not, considering Rey has been on Monday night raw since this lame storyline started. This had allot of potential, it had promise and the WWE failed again. Whoever is writing these big let downs for the WWE should be fired immediately! What is wrong with you people do you want TNA to catch you in the ratings ? This gimmick started of awesome and you allowed it to become some stupid angle to bring the midget back into wrestling.
By the way. you can't turn Kane heel, don't you hear the people cheer for him not matter what you do to him ? For years you have been trying to kill Glenn Jacobs character, but yet he still delivers and keeps the character alive. Yo Vince move on Kane is an icon stop screwing with it.

Damn, chill the hell out. I like Mike Adamle as GM so far. The Kane angle kept us tuned in and kept us guessing. The bag did it's job well. If he didn't say shit until he took out Rey Mysterio's mask... it would have had a better effect but that didn't happen. I still want to see where they are going with this. His character has gotten a lot better.

 

[Monkey_Mania]

After sitting back and letting my inner mark take a breather. I have come to the conclusion that this is a very interesting way to go about it. It may not have been the best, but it surely is very interesting. I'm curious to know what Kane did to Rey Mysterio, and I still want to know why he had said "Is he alive or dead".

What I really think people need to do though is sit back, and watch this unfold. give it a little more time to see what happens. It's called a storyline, the story isnt over yet. I digress though. I'm very intrigued to see where this goes. Hopefully they can maintain my interest.

 

[iwin122]

im thinking summerslam is going to reveal rey mysterio all bandaged up and stuff and kane is probably going to take a heel turn....although i liked him as heel better cause hes awesome when hes psychotic. Anyways as for why he did this to rey i hope its something good and not ******ed like "HES MY BROTHER!!!!" or im just quitting raw right there. And i think someone else shoul dget involved in this too i cant see them making such a big deal with just kane vs rey-rey or thatd be disappointing. Kane still can bring his mask back too its not like he said it was gone, as for them faking rey, i highly doubt it was a "fake bag". Something is going to happen at unforgiven because that seems to be kanes ppv as of the last years plus hes on one of the posters. WWE finally surprised me again. *clap clap* to the writers of raw finally

 

[phat_inallthegoodplaces]

people, come on! he knew adamle was going to take his bag so he put a mysterio mask in the bag instead. he's NOT concerned about rey. the story line has NOTHING to do with rey. everyone needs to forget that kane mentioned rey, it's just a trick by creative to remind everyone that rey is on raw and he will be coming back, but not due to anything with kane or involving kane. rey hasn't been on the show because he's still recovering. he just did a two match stint with santino because he didn't show up at the draft show for anything. so everyone, stop worrying. kane with mysterio mask=joke.

 

[Soul Reaper]

I think him pulling out the Mysterio mask is just a way for Mysterio to be released without it being acknowledged on TV because of his contract dispute. Or maybe he took out his mask so Adamle wouldn't find it. I thought this angle was going to end with Kane getting burned by someone and putting his mask back on. He really doesn't even need the mask again. When he use to have the mask all I wanted was to see what his face would look lie. Now that people have seen his face I don't see the point of putting the mask back on. I guess they're trying to reawaken the monster inside of him or something. Anyway I really don't care. This angle was really hit or miss and in my opinion it missed. This angle needs come to an end soon.

 

[Bap]

I hope to God they are going somewhere with this. I am a major Kane fan and have been for years. He needs something more and I thought this was going to be it. But then maybe then can still go somwhere. Maybe Rey returning at Summerslam with scars wrap around his face which is somehow because of Kane. Then Rey in turn ruins Kanes face making him return to wearing a mask too... Anything that keeps Kane intresting satisfys me so please creative don't be lazy and stupid with this!!!


Ideally I would prefer Kane to have made a fool of Adamle and brought the wrong mask out cause he knew he couldn't get away with not showing what was in the bag...... We shall see I suppose....

 

[slimmshady]

Damn wwe, those idiots, there was an opportunity and reason probably for the masked kane to return but they f*cked it up and instead its rey mysterio. This is probably an attempt for kane to become fully heel and stop the crowd from cheering for him therefore sticking in an underdog that the crowd loves they are hoping for a change in response of the crowd against kane. Seems to be another lame story but I was really sure that kane's mask was in the bag, maybe it was another last minute change of plans and they decided to stick mysterio's mask inside the sack. Think about it, why would kane knock out ring announcers and cameramen and say is he alive if it is mysterio. Now I can understand it if it was the undertaker kane was referring to as it shows that he is scared of him but mysterio is half the size of kane. So I think it was a last minute change of plans that lead to this story. Damn, things were shaping out themselves as the masked kane could have re-debuted at hell in a cell at summerslam and once again attack the undertaker.

 

[chezzvegas]

Maybe this will lead to a weekly segment where Kane brings out another bag every week with other wrestlers masks in? Like Mankind's mask, Ultimo Dragon? Tiger Mask? I wont even try and find a bag big enough for Jyushin Thunder Liger's mask! WWE writers have really screwed this one up. I still hope that Kane swapped the bag and will come down at Summerslam into the HIAC match, rip the door off and repeat his actions from Bad Blood '97.

 

[mr_shwiggy]

here's my complete unsubstanciated guess work, now that the mysterio mask has been brought into the mix. I think this would be a sweet idea, but it probably wont happen.

Last week GM Adamle, threatened to force Kane to reveal the contents of his bag, so Kane thought to himself 'hmm... if i want to keep *real contents* hidden and *eventually build to rewarding payoff* I should put something completely inconsequential in my bag, just to confuse that American Gladiators A-Hole.

(and of course continuing to hide whatever is 'really' in the bag makes perfect sence to a psychopath who was hiding something in a burlap sack by bringing it to his cut throat, bloodsport job, and then leaving it unattended during his matches continuously for around a month)

So Kane plants mysterio's mask in the bag to throw Adamle off and then some sort of swerve happens and kane goes back under the mask and kills all of Adamle's Bodyguards and then adamle recruits some heels to be in a stable to protect him and all of a sudden Kane is the new Steve Austin...but huge....and under a mask....and crazy....and not nearly as drunk...

Long story short, its a swerve, and the best is yet to come.............
at least thats what Im praying to THE WRESTLING GOD for.

 

[Sparky]

here's my complete unsubstanciated guess work, now that the mysterio mask has been brought into the mix. I think this would be a sweet idea, but it probably wont happen.

Oh goody, I hope this does not happen.

Last week GM Adamle, threatened to force Kane to reveal the contents of his bag, so Kane thought to himself 'hmm... if i want to keep *real contents* hidden

Yes becouse Kane seems to be that smart. Why would he want it hidden it has been over a month now since he started it. Now would be the best time for it to happen.

and *eventually build to rewarding payoff*

How could putting the mask back on and keep it hidden until then resort to a rewarding Pay Off

I should put something completely inconsequential in my bag, just to confuse that American Gladiators A-Hole.

Your right this will not happen this is the most absurd thing i have heard. Why would he want to confuse him if he is indeed returning to be a monster he once was.? It dont make sense you would think he would want to destroy him instead.

(and of course continuing to hide whatever is 'really' in the bag makes perfect sence to a psychopath who was hiding something in a burlap sack by bringing it to his cut throat, bloodsport job, and then leaving it unattended during his matches continuously for around a month)

It does? really since when? if you ask me he wasnt hiding it to me hiding it is keeping it hidden not leaving it lying around where everybody can see it.

So Kane plants mysterio's mask in the bag to throw Adamle off and then some sort of swerve happens

No just no it aint going to happen

and kane goes back under the mask and kills all of Adamle's Bodyguards and then adamle recruits some heels to be in a stable to protect him and all of a sudden Kane is the new Steve Austin...but huge....and under a mask....and crazy....and not nearly as drunk...

Right becouse that would really fall under the pg rating they are going for, "heres an idea lets have kane kill people" Are you on drugs? really i mean come on this is stupid.

Long story short, its a swerve, and the best is yet to come.............
at least thats what Im praying to THE WRESTLING GOD for.

Your praying for this to happen? Lord no. Im praying for this not to happen its not possible this is the most stupidest thing i have ever seen. This is worse then the idea of having kane have his old mask in there.


All in all the way this is going its perfect. and makes sense its unpredictable and puts rey into a good fued with rey i cant wait to see where this is going no i KNOW it aint got NOTHING to do with his mask.

 

[Bobby B]

What about a Mask Vs Mask match?

Anyway , I don't think this angle is dead yet. Lest we not forget that Kane interfered in the main event of the Great American Bash. Maybe they'll do the push without the mask. But Kane said that - "He is dead" - has he killed Mysterio? I think theres along way to go with this , although I don't think Kane will wear a mask again.

I agree about creative , they don't seem to have a clue what to do with him. The imposter Kane angle sucked , because it died on its backside. I just hope this is a wider ranging fued than a Kane Vs Mysterio fued. It certainly kept me intruiged - although seemingly asever at the moment , had the WWE Comedy let down.

 

[agentm005]

Your praying for this to happen? Lord no. Im praying for this not to happen its not possible this is the most stupidest thing i have ever seen.

Heh, that's ironic.

Anyways, what a build up...and what a let down. Unless creative hits this out of the park and delivers the best storyline we have ever seen, I just don't see this working. Unless this whole build up was to simply mark the return of Rey Mysterio, I don't see how Rey could be involved. And if Rey is dead how can he return? Just doesn't add up...there has to be something more.

By the way, did anyone else's first think when Kane was talking about the mask that it was going to be Mankind's mask? Wouldn't have made the outcome much better but at least it would have made a bit more sense.

 

[slimmshady]

The thing that makes this current situation stupid is when the hell did kane attack mysterio as I can't recall an incident. Over the last few weeks kane has attacked matt striker, batista, cm punk, jericho, jbl but no mysterio. And then he is saying every week 'is he alive or dead', why would he be referring to mysterio its not like he is the undertaker. There is no damn reason for kane to attack mysterio behind the cameras except for probably exposing mysterios face but the world has already seen it anyway. I have no clue what wwe are going to try to achieve with this new storyline. Unless, like what some of you people are saying in this forum, every week or 2 kane will come out with something new in his sack until eventually he brings his own mask out. Is this story meant to help kane's reputation?