"Just When You Thought..."

[AndThat'sTheBottomLine]

True, but the same can be said for "just" claiming he is better than me.

Are you in the NBA? No? Thought so. Did you play HS ball? If yes, then did you get immediately drafted into the NBA? No on both counts? Again, thought so.

By some, not all.

By all except you and Skip Bayless and both of you are ******ed.

No. I am one of few people that have seen both of us play. I've seen him play, & I've also seen me play. My ability is leaps & bounds beyond his.

But no one on here has ever seen you play therefore you fail to provide proof.

You can do one or the other, but not both.... And the latter only if I throw the game.

Right....liar.

I don't "have to balls"?! On the contrary, I have t(w)o, & while I can't be sure, I'm betting he does too. Why don't we each keep our anatomical balls, & each get an actual ball to shoot simultaneously?! That's the only way he'd make a shot against me.

I meant that you don't have THE balls. And as for the rest of that I just have one, very important thing to say....

Liar.

 

[Moon Knight]

No. I am one of few people that have seen both of us play. I've seen him play, & I've also seen me play. My ability is leaps & bounds beyond his.

And yet he is making millions with pussy lined up around the block, while you are crying like a bitch on wrestling forum. Why don't you try out for an NBA if you are so great? I am sure the Clippers could use some shooters.

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

He made the claim that he is a better Basketball player than LeBron James and people are trying to have a rational conversation with him about that? You can't convince him of anything. All of his arguments are based upon absolutely nothing. 'I'm better than LeBron James because I've seen him and me play and I say I'm better'. You can't tackle a statement like that like it's rational. You can't tackle a statement like that at all because it's based upon nothing save for the kids' delusions.

You could have every single person in the world telling him that's he's wrong and explaining why, and he would still protest the opposite even in the face of unambiguous evidence. This guy IS Todd, but a bit more well spoken.

 

[Moon Knight]

He made the claim that he is a better Basketball player than LeBron James and people are trying to have a rational conversation with him about that? You can't convince him of anything. All of his arguments are based upon absolutely nothing. 'I'm better than LeBron James because I've seen him and me play and I say I'm better'. You can't tackle a statement like that like it's rational. You can't tackle a statement like that at all because it's based upon nothing save for the kids' delusions.

You could have every single person in the world telling him that's he's wrong and explaining why, and he would still protest the opposite even in the face of unambiguous evidence. This guy IS Todd, but a bit more well spoken.

He could prove his claims, all it takes is a computer, internet connection, video camera and Youtube account. Unless he already posted a video I missed.

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

He could prove his claims, all it takes is a computer, internet connection, video camera and Youtube account. Unless he already posted a video I missed.

Yeah. But I think we'd probably be waiting a while for that video.

I mean, even Todd was able to post a link or two, even if they weren't always contextually related to the matter at hand. It would be nice to see an argument from this guy that went something other than 'I'm right and I know I'm right becoz IT'S OBVIOUS DUH!'.

 

[Rayne]

Yes. It is very unlikely we can be objective when you demand that the test we apply is "you have to accept Lebron is a below average basketball player because I say so."

 

[BaconBits]

I will dominate everybody in the entire population of the world at every sport ever invented. I know this to be true because I've seen myself play PS3 games.

 

[Lying Retarded Crybaby Troll Bitch]

Yes. It is very unlikely we can be objective when you demand that the test we apply is "you have to accept Lebron is a below average basketball player because I say so."

I am not demanding you apply ANY test whatsoever! I'm guessing everyone that makes statements in this thread about this topic has actually seen Lebron play. Therefore, you know how little talent it takes to be better than he is. Odds are good, then, that I (as well as many others) am/are better.

As for BaconBits' claim, PS3 is not the same as actually playing it, just as Lebron winning a ton of MVP awards is not the same as him actually being the Most-Valuable/Best player.

 

[Rayne]

I am not demanding you apply ANY test whatsoever! I'm guessing everyone that makes statements in this thread about this topic has actually seen Lebron play. Therefore, you know how little talent it takes to be better than he is. Odds are good, then, that I (as well as many others) am/are better.

On the contrary, you simply don't understand that you're trying to apply a test. You are asking people to compare Lebron James to other basketball players, and also demanding that they have to agree with your assessment.

Your argument fails when you insist your argument is self-evident, and attempt to end debate there instead of recognizing that your entire audience disputes this assertion- by further insisting that your argument is self-evident. It's called "circular logic", you can look it up on the Wikipedia if you'd like, but I'll spare you the fifteen seconds further and tell you it's considered bullshit.

Since your argument about Lebron James' skills vs. other players as "self-evident" has been rejected by your audience, do you have any objective evidence to present? For instance, your NBA statistics versus his, videos of you playing basketball (we've all seen Lebron on SportsCenter- I don't know you, again, maybe you're Kobe.)

 

[Lying Retarded Crybaby Troll Bitch]

On the contrary, you simply don't understand that you're trying to apply a test. You are asking people to compare Lebron James to other basketball players, and also demanding that they have to agree with your assessment.

On the contrary, I have already compared his ability with mine. Comparing Persons/Items A & B repeatedly is highly unlikely to get new results. So agree with my results, & no new re-test need be applied.

Your argument fails when you insist your argument is self-evident, and attempt to end debate there instead of recognizing that your entire audience disputes this assertion- by further insisting that your argument is self-evident.

There, you are saying my "argument fails when...", & then go on to describe a situation that is not happening. Talk about bullsh**... Well, maybe not, but certainly a waste of time & space.

Since your argument about Lebron James' skills vs. other players as "self-evident" has been rejected by your audience, do you have any objective evidence to present?

Why bother? As I said previosuly, I've seen him play & seen myself play, & ergo, have the results of both. You all are admittedly rejecting my comparison without any evidence of (at least) one side.

For instance, your NBA statistics versus his, videos of you playing basketball (we've all seen Lebron on SportsCenter- I don't know you, again, maybe you're Kobe.)

You don't know who I am, & you likewise don't know what any others may/may not have seen... Stop pretending otherwise. (This is certainly more BS; If such isn't right for me to use, it is just as wrong for the other side.)

 

[AhSpicyDrop]

The only question that comes to mind after reading this time wasting thread is....

Why the fuck are you debating online if you're the second coming in Basketball?

Maybe I'm wrong but it would seem like slam-dunking a basketball in Lebron's face and hearing the cheers from the crowd would be more rewarding than being the equivalent of a monkey in the zoo.

 

[Wally Dangerously]

Waterboarding should be replaced with forced, out-loud readings of this thread.

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

Waterboarding should be replaced with forced, out-loud readings of this thread.

I think even the officers on Guantanamo would deem that far beyond cruel and unusual punishment.

 

[Lying Retarded Crybaby Troll Bitch]

I think even the officers on Guantanamo would deem that far beyond cruel and unusual punishment.

1] I thought Gitmo was closed (same as the minds of staffers here).

2] Want "beyond cruel & unusual punishment"?! That would be being imprisoned by the ******s that rule this place!

 

[Rayne]

Yes, we are rejecting your comparison. Glad you've finally caught up. We've been down the road where I explain to you that when you don't provide any evidence of your own skills, we are forced to make assumptions that you are an average-level basketball player; and people have rejected your subjective opinion that Lebron is a below-average level basketball player. Can you offer any evidence that doesn't start with "but first you have to agree with what I'm saying?"

I am asking you for objective evidence, and you keep offering your subjective opinion- and then demand people agree with it. If you don't know what objective vs. subjective means, you can just say so and I'll help you out.

 

[Lying Retarded Crybaby Troll Bitch]

Yes, we are rejecting your comparison. Glad you've finally caught up. We've been down the road where I explain to you that when you don't provide any evidence of your own skills, we are forced to make assumptions that you are an average-level basketball player; and people have rejected your subjective opinion that Lebron is a below-average level basketball player. Can you offer any evidence that doesn't start with "but first you have to agree with what I'm saying?"

I am asking you for objective evidence, and you keep offering your subjective opinion- and then demand people agree with it. If you don't know what objective vs. subjective means, you can just say so and I'll help you out.

1] I didn't just catch up; Can't be possible when I started ahead of you.

2] Nothing objective or subjective about it. I'm stating facts, & whether any of you agree or not is inconsequential.

 

[Remix]

Facts are meaningless without data to back them up. If Jesus claimed to be the son of God, he's got miracles to back up his claim. I mean, can you turn water into wine?

If it's a fact, there should be something that proves it to be true.

 

[The Brain]

The guy says he's a better basketball player than LeBron James. Why is anyone still talking about this? Rayne, this guy is incapable of providing evidence for any of his arguments. I don't know if you've read any of his nonsense before this but his answer is always the same. It's either so obvious he doesn't need to provide evidence or you have to do the research yourself. I realize you're having fun with him now. I've had my share of fun with him too. I assumed he was always the troll that he is but I thought maybe, just maybe he was just really stupid and believed the ridiculous things he said. With this stuff about LeBron he's exposed himself as a blatant troll. No one can be THAT stupid.

Take it as a compliment TJ. Being a troll is better than being stupid. Although it's very likely that you are both.

 

[Lying Retarded Crybaby Troll Bitch]

The guy says he's a better basketball player than LeBron James. Why is anyone still talking about this? Rayne, this guy is incapable of providing evidence for any of his arguments. I don't know if you've read any of his nonsense before this but his answer is always the same. It's either so obvious he doesn't need to provide evidence or you have to do the research yourself. I realize you're having fun with him now. I've had my share of fun with him too. I assumed he was always the troll that he is but I thought maybe, just maybe he was just really stupid and believed the ridiculous things he said. With this stuff about LeBron he's exposed himself as a blatant troll. No one can be THAT stupid.

Take it as a compliment TJ. Being a troll is better than being stupid. Although it's very likely that you are both.

Actually, I'm neither, & you're both. Want proof? Read your posts... Oh, & you yourself are that stupid.

While we're at it, NSN inspired me: Prove yourself to have a properly-working brain, let alone be "The Brain".

 

[The Brain]

Actually, I'm neither, & you're both. Want proof? Read your posts... Oh, & you yourself are that stupid.

While we're at it, NSN inspired me: Prove yourself to have a properly-working brain, let alone be "The Brain".

No problem. If I did not have a working brain I would not be capable of typing this very post. My brain tells my fingers the words to type and they appear on your screen. I can be "The Brain" because that's the name I chose when I signed up. Anyone can pick any name they want. Well almost anyone, Lying ******ed Crybaby Troll Bitch. It just so happens both of our current user names happen to describe us quite well.

See, you asked me one time to prove something and I easily did it in a few seconds. Why can't you ever provide any proof of anything when asked?

 

[Lying Retarded Crybaby Troll Bitch]

No problem. If I did not have a working brain I would not be capable of typing this very post. My brain tells my fingers the words to type and they appear on your screen. I can be "The Brain" because that's the name I chose when I signed up. Anyone can pick any name they want. Well almost anyone, Lying ******ed Crybaby Troll Bitch. It just so happens both of our current user names happen to describe us quite well.

See, you asked me one time to prove something and I easily did it in a few seconds. Why can't you ever provide any proof of anything when asked?

As a matter of fact, I can, & simply choose not to. However, the irony of that is you actually proved neither of our names correctly describes us.

 

[CleverName51]

1] I didn't just catch up; Can't be possible when I started ahead of you.

That is, theoretically possible. Let's devise a T-test. It's something used by statisticians to determine whether or not a statistic is legitimate or an anomaly.

There are over 10K members of WZ forums, this is a fact.

10K is a large enough sample of the general population that we can assume that a standard IQ bell curve applies, meaning the average IQ of a WZ Forum user is 110 with a 10 point range.

So, you have roughly a 1/10K chance of being the smartest person on these forums, or "starting ahead" of us.

Now, that's fine. Let's test this against the non-WZ population.

You say: Lebron James has no talent for basketball and the people who vote for awards are stupid and delusional.

Well: here's the thing, yes fluke award votes can happen, the thing is, these awards are voted on by 100s if not 1000s of people, Lebron consistently winning awards for his basketball playing abilities mean, by the law of averages, he's very good at basketball because, by just sheer odds alone, if he wasn't good, he'd never repeat his results on the court as he does.

He makes ~45% of his shots which is pretty good, and his coach KEEPS trusting him to play big minutes every game.

There is NO way that every single person connected to Lebron could be fooled this often.

An important saying: "you can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time but you CANNOT fool ALL of the people, ALL of the time."

If Lebron was bad at basketball, someone would have found out and benched him by now.


Since these test proves you're not ahead of us, we can assume, you did NOT start out ahead of those of us on the forums.

1]
2] Nothing objective or subjective about it. I'm stating facts, & whether any of you agree or not is inconsequential.

Facts are objective. Opinion is subjective. Anything objective requires evidence to prove or disprove it.

Fact: "The sky is blue."

How do we know it's a fact: I can post pictures of a blue sky.


Fact: The freezing point of water is 0 degrees Celsius.

How can I prove it: a science experiment, I can fill a glass of water that's 10 Celsius and a liquid, then freeze it out 0 degrees over time in my freezer.


Opinion: "Apples taste better than cherries"

I can't prove this. For me, apples do taste better than cherries, but my girlfriend LOVES cherries.







To everyone else that isn't our prisoner:

This is my proof that he is, in fact, ******ed. Does it meet with the scientific approval of the forum? Or can we just call it self-evident by reading any of his posts?

 

[CleverName51]

As a matter of fact, I can, & simply choose not to. However, the irony of that is you actually proved neither of our names correctly describes us.

Why do you choose not to?

 

[The Brain]

As a matter of fact, I can, & simply choose not to. However, the irony of that is you actually proved neither of our names correctly describes us.

Why do you choose not to? It's not irony as you never asked me to prove that either of our names describe us. So now we know you don't even pay attention to what you say.

 

[CleverName51]

Why do you choose not to?

Why do you choose not to?

Isn't there a saying, "Great minds think alike" and if so, does it apply here?