Thing that everyone is forgetting - Morrison CAN talk...it's just giving him the right level of fire. Same with Kofi. The two of them CAN talk, they've PROVEN they can. Perhaps for Morrison it's a matter of alignment though and he NEEDS to stop forcing it.
My feel with Morrison is when he talks, it's not "his voice". It feels like he's putting a voice on for the camera. You know like when a kid talks to a camera and puts on a "cool voice"? Well that's what Morrison sounds like. Now remember, this is the guy that CARRIED the palace of wisdom team. During him and Miz's reign as tag champs, the vignettes on the internet etc were ALL Carried by him. Miz was just annoying, Morrison had all the substance to his speech.
WWE is more in a bind with Morrison because Morrison lends himself with his moves to being face. You can't pull off the stuff he does and get booed for it. Kids, girls, HELL, even WE, the internet wrestling community get drawn in by it when you see it...so he'd need a TOTAL overhaul to become heel. The issue is though, his personality seems to lend itself to him being heel. Morrison is a better heel than he is a face; FACT.
WWE is also laden with heels, so they would need to turn a few heels face before he turns heel. But it's what Morrison NEEDS. Turn him heel and give him more mic time...because you know guys, you ALL complain that he's no good on the mic - but how many shots on the mic on WWE TV has he REALLY been given? And how much time in reality has he been given? A few minutes here and there. Hell in the WHOLE Sheamus angle, was he not given...umm...about 2 minutes?
See my problem is time with Morrison. They're pushing his athletic acumen but it doesn't show ANYTHING in terms of his mic skill. I can almost guarantee though - the right person and the right feud will MAKE John Morrison. He just needs to be given the RIGHT chance to further himself.
In response to the argument above about "right feud, right opponent, right time" etc. It's both to a degree. He needs to further himself - but he needs the right fuel to do it with. Sheamus was a good starting point - a great feud between those guys...Truth will be a good feud too but he needs something more to prove to everyone he CAN do it.
No he can't talk. You said the "IF" thing again. It's always "if given the right story" "if given the right opponent" "if given the right moment" "if given the right fire". Roddy could make you think he hates a bologna sandwich and wants to beat the shit out of it. There are no "if given" situations with main eventers. You're given a situation, you make the most out of it, it doesn't make the most out of you. Second, Kofi can't talk very well either. He gets too nervous, he may say his lines without stuttering and say them with decent vocalization, but he doesn't look at the camera which conveys a lack of confidence. Morrison sounds nervous, talks awardly (like it's not natural) and his voice is kinda shaky at times.
If Morrison was a better talker than Miz, then how come I sat live when Miz turned a mediocre entrance pop into the loudest noise of the night through a promo? Miz is good on the mic, extremely good actually. Morrison doesn't do any of the little things. "Substance" in a promo, like meaning, is probably up to the script writers who work with the wrestlers.
I like how you say "even WE get drawn into his flips" as if it's some mystery that a guy gets over on flips. I mean on the tag thread people are clamoring for a Gabriel/Bourne team JUST TO SEE 2 FLIPS AT ONCE. Just funny to me.
Maybe his personality lends toward a heel and maybe his in ring lends itself towards being a face, he's a professional wrestler, he gets paid to do this, he'd better figure it out. In the ring he can look sloppy and fake or spontaneous and spectacular all depending on his opponent. I would think if heels can carry him to look good as a face, good babyfaces can carry him to look good as a heel. Then again, if he ever wants to main event, he needs to look good against any level of opponent.
Again "he needs to be given the right opponent, the right feud, the right opportunity", main eventers don't get made by opportunity, they make the most of it and they make the feud and the opponent. Morrison has never shown the ability to do any, not even get more over. I'm not saying guys don't help others get over, I'm saying it's a 2 sided street and Morrison has been given opportunities and not risen to the occasion (vs Miz).
Like I said, if he's more over after beating Truth, give him a guy like Del Rio who is further up. If he's just as over as before, run Truth again and give him another chance, if he's less over, move him down the card and give him the chance to rise up. That's how it works. WWE isn't going to push him to the moon unless he shows them it will be justified.
honestly everybody has trouble getting over and there is always people bashing new stars just because they are not familiar with him being in a main event i get that but no talent?try doing the sh*t he does
no charisma?why does he get a reaction from the crowd if he had no charisma
no mic skills?he has trouble with that we all know that but so did hardy and batista mic skills certainly can help but it aint everything
all and all i can see him in a main event maybe change his finisher maybe not but main event potential yes and i do see him going places especially after last night its always good to have sympathy with the crowd
I agree that everyone has trouble getting over. As far as the "try doing the shit he does" well, that's cool and all but you try doing what Cena does. No, I don't mean his moves, I mean getting 15,000 people to all care strongly about everything you do. I say that because, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you do 2 moves for 2,000 moves, the guy who gets pushed and the guy who gets paid more is the guy who gets those people to care. If athleticism and flippity schmippity got you over, they'd be hiring gymnasts.
He actually does have charisma, it's in ring charisma. It's because he's confident in the ring. On the mic, he lacks charisma because he lacks confidence.
Batista's mic skills got dramatically better. He clearly went to the Triple H "slow everything down and use cliches mixed with a few jokes that halfway break the 4th wall" school of promos, but Batista got better. As for Jeff Hardy (I'm assuming you're talking about the only Hardy to ever get main event over), it's a great comparison. If you appeal to teen girls by being cute or whatever and jump off high shit, eventually you will get over.
I see Morrison as a main eventer if he keeps growing. He's still young in wrestling terms. Typically a guy can get over on athleticism early when their body isn't beat up, in the middle their body can still go and their mind is peaking too. Morrison just needs to "hit the books" so to speak and be more cerebral about everything he does.