John Morrison... How does he have a job?

[TheKingHustla]

I'm split on John Morrison. i like him more now then i did when he was with mnm, and even when he was with miz, but i'm still not fully sold on him. There's just something about him that isnt there. he doesnt have that extra ingredient. that thing that you really cant explain, but you know it when its there.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

I'm split on John Morrison. i like him more now then i did when he was with mnm, and even when he was with miz, but i'm still not fully sold on him. There's just something about him that isnt there. he doesnt have that extra ingredient. that thing that you really cant explain, but you know it when its there.

It's promo skills. You don't feel fully connected because he doesn't have the promo skills to communicate it. As a midcard babyface this is okay, he'll just never be a mega star. You can almost compare wrestlers to baseball players with "five tools". You have promo ability, in ring charisma, ability to carry a character, ability to carry a feud, and ability to carry a match (doesn't mean technical proficience, just that you can force your opponent into telling a compelling in ring story with you). I'd say Morrison is pretty solid is 3 or 4 of those categories. Guys like Cena, Austin, Rock, and almost Miz can do all 5.

 

[Dwayne_Jason]

What in the hell are you smoking?

Morrison's right behind Cena and Orton right now as the Raw face. Who else gets more pops then him cept for the Bonafide ME'rs?

Saying that he's had an awful career is quite ignorant of you considering his accolades.

I think Morrison should be the way he is and continue on his path to eventual success. Just because he isn't a household phenomenon by 23 doesn't mean he wont win the title. He most likely will. And I think many people will mark out when he does.

 

[Blade]

I don't think he'll ever be over enough to win the World Title. The crowd just doesn't give a shit apart from a few women. As entertaining as he can be in the ring, he just doesn't have the it factor to get him to the next level. He was surprisingly close to reaching that level in the summer of 2009, when Punk and Jeff Hardy made him look awesome. But since then, he's just gotten less and less over. It's like what happened with Kofi and his feud with Orton. For a moment, you believed he could be a big deal. But bad booking erased all that.

But he shouldn't be fired. At least not any time soon, when he can still perform like he can. WWE will always need for-life upper midcarders. Where would the business be without the likes of Owen Hart, Jake Roberts, The Big Show etc. They're a huge part of WWE and while they may not be the big draws, they still put on solid matches to entertain the crowd.

 

[CuddleBuns84]

In the NFL, they have the draft.... Not like the WWE's version.

See, a lot of teams pick up a QB in the first round. If he pans out, and the team wins a lot. It is consider a boom.

Now, some QBs, take a little longer. They need some time to develop. So teams go out and find want he needs, and build a team up for him.

Now, after a team builds this guy up. Puts talent around him. And still doesn't win. Then that team has a QB problem.

In pro wrestling, if you keep on giving someone, opportunity after opportunity, and they keep on not delivering. Then you have some cause to say goodbye.

Shelton Benjamin got let go. He was about, oh.... 3 in a half times the performing as JoMo. So, I can see this happening.

 

[Nate DaMac]

In the NFL, they have the draft.... Not like the WWE's version.

See, a lot of teams pick up a QB in the first round. If he pans out, and the team wins a lot. It is consider a boom.

Now, some QBs, take a little longer. They need some time to develop. So teams go out and find want he needs, and build a team up for him.

Now, after a team builds this guy up. Puts talent around him. And still doesn't win. Then that team has a QB problem.

In pro wrestling, if you keep on giving someone, opportunity after opportunity, and they keep on not delivering. Then you have some cause to say goodbye.

Shelton Benjamin got let go. He was about, oh.... 3 in a half times the performing as JoMo. So, I can see this happening.

Any credibility you had was just instantly shot to shit the instant you suggested that Shelton Benjamin is better than John Morrison. You have got to be fucking kidding me. Shelton Benjamin isn't 1/16th the performer John Morrison is. You see, when John Morrison comes out and you hear the crowd make noise, that's called a pop. Now look back and watch Shelton Benjamin come out to the ring. You hear that? No? I thought so.

Shelton Benjamin makes John Morrison look like fucking Hulk Hogan when it comes to charisma. Not to mention that when it comes to in ring skills, the only thing Shelton could do better was jump higher. His technical skills are roughly the same, they both did crazy spots though Morrison botches his way less often, and Morrison has him trounced in striking and flexibility. Morrison>>>Shelton Benjamin. Not even by a close margin.

Morrison has a value to the company, evident by his consistent pops and reactions when he comes to the ring. Benjamin had absolutely no value, which is quite evident since no one cares that he's gone and has been for the better part of a year.

 

[DarkLordFett]

I think the writers are just lost on how to push him, they may need to lose the Jim Morrison gimmick repackage him and push him doing all those high risk whacked out moves. To me that might work, also a good program with a veteran would take some more of the green that might be left in him out. Maybe a program against Kane or Edge?
torch pass....??

Happens to too many guys. If they don't fit into the little main event mold that creative writes for, they end up lost in the shuffle. He does need some more "seasoning" but working some angles with a couple top level guys (maybe even HHH?) would really help him out. I think you're right about the rock star gimmick. It's just not working out. I really like Morrison and would love to see him excel in the company. Another poster said that a larger problem is that he's just not Vince's "guy". And if you're not, you get left behind. Creative needs to loosen up the grip a bit, let the talent really create their own characters.

 

[Singin' in the Reyn]

I really like JoMo for his in-ring ability. His flashy gimmick (except the boots) also works great for him (IMHO). I also think he needs to stay face, because we can't have EVERY superstar being heel. And him nailing Starship Pain is one of the coolest things in the WWE!

 

[Mexican Mark Henry]

No, John Morrison shouldn't be future endeavored. He has too much potential. I am not a John Morrison fan, but I am smart enough to realize that he is one of the best in the ring today.

The only problem with Morrison is, the mic skills. When he talks, it sounds like his voice is cracking or he is lisping. Even Daniel Bryan's mic skills are better than his. His mic skills were a LITTLE better when he was a heel, but still, not much different.

Eventually, he will receive a few more pushes... all of them will fail, and he will be a permanent mid-carder, AKA Matt Hardy and Mark Henry.

 

[DeadmanFan]

Well, here is one of my crazy ideas. Yes, I know I'm posting in my own thread...

What Morrison needs is...

Michael Cole. And this is why.

Michael Cole is now starting to join forces with the Miz. It's a interesting partnership. Jack Swagger might be getting involved. Miz and Michael Cole are starting a good stable in my opinion.

Morrison needs that group. A lot of fans have been cheering, and wanting a new power stable. I hear people talk about, how they miss the Four Horsemen. Well, The WWE has it right there.

If Morrison can go back heel, join this stable, because it's looking like they are forming this stable. Have Michael as the manager. This stable, this group. Can be the next evolution. Swagger needs it. Alex Riley needs it. And John Morrison needs it. It can work.

I like this idea. A lot. A brash, young stable of heels 'taking over' the WWE and making it into their image, because they are simply better than anyone else. It would help Morrison.

Even if Morrison stays face, he can change his gimmick a bit to be the rebel rocker against this heel stable.

And no, he should definitely not be future endeavored.

 

[Wrestling is Storytelling]

I can't help but think back to Jeff Hardy, in particular Jeff Hardy's Raw ladder match against the Undertaker. For that matter, but to a lesser extent, I think of Austin losing to Bret Hart at Wrestlemania 13, or any other type of match that JR would sell with the "he gave it all he had and has been absolutely beaten down" angle. The loser usually lays in the ring for an extra 5-10 minutes unable to recover, but he has won the fans over with his effort.

I haven't followed Morrison closely enough (grew up in the pre-Attitude and Attitude eras...stopped watching a little after Cena became top dog...watch on and off now), to know if he has already had this type of match. But if not, I think it would do his character a whole lot of good. Given his athleticism, it's sometimes hard to tell whether he's really taking a great deal of punishment or putting forth 110% (both of which I'm sure he is). Even so, if he loses a typical match and walks away from the ring looking healthy, it's hard to associate that with "Morrison really gave it his all tonight." Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think an epic loss could do him about as much good as suddenly developing great mic skills.

 

[berlinbrawler]

No, Morrison hasn't been "made" yet by someone in that sense.
He has had a few very good (just not epic) matches, like the one with the Miz earlier this year, and he keeps incorporating some very creative elements in his matches, like the way he avoided elimination at the Rumble, and he seeks out the high risk spots and seeks out places no one has jumped off yet (the big thing up the ramp). He falls a little short in some regards and excels in others. All in all he does have what it takes to play in the upper ranks, in my opinion. But his biggest problem is probably his backstage attitude, which doesn't endear him to anyone at the moment and apparently has him on Vince's sh*tlist.

 

[Lucid]

It all depends on what Morrison is like backstage.
I get the feeling that what comes across as a lack of connection to the fans, the "it factor", is actually the guy being his honest self. An unsympathetic, robotic performer who may deliver some moves but cannot deliver the story.
If he carries himself backstage like a person who is owed something and is always difficult to work with no matter who he is put together with, than I'd have no problem letting him go.

 

[berlinbrawler]

He is getting a lot of heat lately for his bad backstage attitude. And there maybe something to it. Acting unprofessionally before and at Wrestlemania, being a dick to one of the respected greats of the business. Things like that. Sounds like he still has some growing up to do.

However I remember when very similar things were being said about Randy Orton. Orton being a dick to fans, not signing autographs, destroying their cameras and just being overall rude, and also being unpopular backstage with his attitude and poor taste pranks (he once shat in a diva's purse) and disobeying the rules (marihuana) and authority figures. Back then a lot of people said the WWE should fire Orton. Instead they took some disciplinary actions, he matured and learned to take the good with the bad and became one of the greats.

 

[hollowpoint]

He is getting a lot of heat lately for his bad backstage attitude. And there maybe something to it. Acting unprofessionally before and at Wrestlemania, being a dick to one of the respected greats of the business. Things like that. Sounds like he still has some growing up to do.

However I remember when very similar things were being said about Randy Orton. Orton being a dick to fans, not signing autographs, destroying their cameras and just being overall rude, and also being unpopular backstage with his attitude and poor taste pranks (he once shat in a diva's purse) and disobeying the rules (marihuana) and authority figures. Back then a lot of people said the WWE should fire Orton. Instead they took some disciplinary actions, he matured and learned to take the good with the bad and became one of the greats.

This is one of the only things that is keeping him down. He needs to start getting out of his own way when it comes to the backstage attitude. Randy Orton is a good example of this. It's kinda sad though that no one seems to learn from others' mistakes. They just keep repeating them over and over again.

Do I think he needs to be future endeavored? Not a chance. he has so much talent and potential to be great. As soon as he matures, he will be a top tier guy in the business. He has the charisma, and believe it or not, his mic skills are as bad as people may think.

 

[sabataged]

Morrison's look at mannerisms scream cowardly pretty boy heel but his flashy move set screams face. I think that is his main issue.