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Jericho New IC Champ

How do you think Y2J's return has been?

  • Great - His return couldn't have been better

  • Decent - It still can improve

  • Horrible - he should have went to TNA instead


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After last night I have no complaints with them putting the title on Jericho. He had a pretty good TV match with Hardy and I think he'll continue to have great matches with guys like Kennedy, Umaga, HBK, etc.

Of course he probably only got the title by default since Hardy screwed up, but I still like him with the strap.
 
Winning the IC title can only help turn Jericho’s return around, giving him some fresh feuds and allowing him to look strong again. Although I too prefer a heel Y2J, I’m not so sure that is the best way to go just yet. I’m thinking of potential match-ups here: Jericho vs. Santino and Jericho vs. Kennedy would be good. All three can work the mic and would provide some us entertaining moments. I’m just not sure how it would work if all three guys are heels though. Based on the crowd’s reaction last night and the fact there are not that many faces on Raw at the moment, I say they keep Jericho a face a bit longer.

Also having the IC belt on Jericho will hopefully restore its value as it may now begin being defended again regularly, heck maybe even on a PPV. With him winning the IC though, I now don’t see him going to Smackdown in the draft as some, including myself, may have hoped.
 
This goes to show how little WWE cares about Y2J. He debuted as a main eventer on RAW, and has now fallen to the mid - card status. WWE hyped him up, and them gave us a huge let down. Y2J got one title match, that didn't even end cleanly Then he was put in a pointless feud with JBL. Now he's the IC champ. And to give an even bigger blow, the only reason why he won the title was because Jeff Hardy was about to get suspended.

Sure Y2J is can give the IC title a credibility boost, but he himself has no profit from it. He already won the title seven times before, and elevated to the main event scene. The only profit is that the IC title will finally be defended, and have some credibility. Hopefully he can improve the title, as for the last few years, it's been worthless.

Back to Y2J. He's in the MITB match at 'Mania, and might win it. So, that would drastically help Y2J. He needs to get back in the main event scene, because as needed as he is in the mid - card, he's needed more on the main event scene. The only possible challengers for the WWE title are HHH, Cena, Umaga, (sadly) Snitsky, JBL, and that's about it. Five challengers, and about half of them will not get a chance at the gold. The IC title is missing competitors, but the division is already dead, so WWE might as well save the main event.

Hopefully Y2J will win the MITB, because he needs it more than anybody else, right now.
 
i was dissapointed in him winning the IC belt...isnt it his seventh time winning it? it really brings him nowhere but down...i mean he debuted at the top and quickly fell down...hopefully something good comes about...cause i know jericho needs it...
 
Im sorry but you are all just dissapointed that he beat Jeff Hardy for it, I bet you if he beat JBL, you guys would be singing his praise. . but just because he beat Jeff, you guys are calling it a "dissapointment"
 
I was happy as hell to see Jericho win last night. I would obviously love to see Y2J with the WWE or World Heavyweight strap, but I think having the IC title could help move him back into the main event scene down the road. I know some think this is a move down but at least now he has some sort of direction to go in, where as just a week ago we were all scratching our heads. Let's just hope the feuds/storylines they whip up for him are decent. There are a couple I wouldn't mind seeing..Kennedy, Umaga, Carlito, Santino, maybe even Snitsky, and of course Jeff will probably have to work his way back up after his suspension so I could see something starting up there again. We'll see what happens.
 
Y2J's return has been a case of little show and no go. Not to say that he can't go, but the hype certainly hasn't matched what's been produced thus far. His title win over Hardy might be the spark that his return needs. Nevermind the fact that he probably wouldn't have gotten it if Jeff hadn't been dumb enough to get suspended again.

Did I enjoy Y2J in the past? Yes, he was entertaining and he generally put on good matches. Do I enjoy Y2J at the present? No, because to me he hasn't been entertaining and he hasn't been putting on good matches for the most part. For Chris to really shine, he's going to have to really want to perform again and judging by the mixed bag thus far, (and I hate to say this) it's almost as if he's just collecting a paycheck.

I agree that right now Chris is just kind of stuck out there, without anything really setting him apart as a good guy and that's the kiss of death for a wrestler. He's always been better as the bad guy and the WWE should turn him at the MITB match but who against? Jericho's the only babyface in the match since Hardy's been pulled!

Maybe he wins the MITB match, then cuts a vicious promo the next night on Raw about how he's been abandoned by the fans since his return and that his winning the MITB was his way of getting the only thing that he wants, the undisputed heavyweight title, sending out a challenge to both world champions?
 
This is the best thing WWE has done for the Intercontinental Championship in ages and it delighted me to witness credibility restored to a championship that was only straped around Jeff Hardy's waist, not being defended or contested or anything. And as that belt is possessed by Chris Jericho at this time, my expectations are to see it defended on a regular basis, whether on RAW or a PPV, bring it back to life, build it up and then you have the up and comers come around and win the championship like Mr. Kennedy, maybe even Cody Rhodes soon because I see big things for him soon, and others. Even an idea here, if anyone wins the championship from this day forward, they automatically gain a contender's spot for the WWE Championship. Things like that could restore it's value and make people have high regards for the championship again.

Now, as for the material benefiting Jericho. Well what I perceive is that it really rallied the fans behind Jericho, who looked to somewhat be turning heel in my eyes after Jeff Hardy gave him the "Twist of Fate" on his Highlight Reel show. And who gives if Jeff Hardy lost the belt because he failed the drug test, his business for making such a stupid mistake, all respect to him though because I want him to finally mount the WWE but if he's gonna screw around, he's to blame for his own misfortunate. Back to Y2J, Y2J is deserving of that championship and more, and now perhaps, he and the belt will assist one another in becoming huge again and will catapult Jericho back up into the main event card status, where he belongs.

The problem certainly is that they seem to not know what to do with Jericho because he'd recently returned, had some ring rust and felt he wouldn't be ready to run with the primary belt, so he didn't beat Orton. Instead, they threw him into a pointless feud with JBL, it didn't really work. And so now, Jericho was just floating above sea level. Well, the IC Championship I believe just pushed him some distance. Yeah he won it seven times, what's so wrong in him winning it again? Run with it Jericho, set some standard for it!
 
Im sorry but you are all just dissapointed that he beat Jeff Hardy for it, I bet you if he beat JBL, you guys would be singing his praise. . but just because he beat Jeff, you guys are calling it a "dissapointment"

What? That doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.

Most posters on these forums hate Jeff Hardy. And if they don't, they think he's mediocre at best. And for that matter, everyone hates JBL.

What are you even trying to say here? Nobody was disappointed by this for any other reason then that it's the millionth time Jericho has had the belt.

I for one like the idea. The WWE royally fucked Jericho hardcore, without even a drop of lube. Fed to Randy Orton promptly on arrival, then put into a lackluster midcard feud with no conclusion whatsoever.

Atleast with the title now they'll have to do something with Jericho. Shit, the idea of him having a few solid IC Title feuds for a while would be great for the IC Title, and wouldn't hurt to bring Jericho back to the newer fans. They just need to either turn him heel, or give him some god damn time to be funny on the mic. Stop writing Chris Jericho serious promos. Nobody remembers a single serious Chris Jericho promo---they remember his humor; they remember the Man of 1004 Holds and the Stephanie McMahon is a Ho series of vignettes. Give the guy some jokes and he'll be hardcore over again, more so then Hardy is now.

Still, I really hope Jericho wins the MITB. He probably won't, but I'll mark right on out if he does.
 
The only possible challengers for the WWE title are HHH, Cena, Umaga, (sadly) Snitsky, JBL, and that's about it. Five challengers, and about half of them will not get a chance at the gold.

How do you see him as being a challenger for the WWE Title? He has done nothing.


At first, I was skeptical. However, putting the strap on Jericho was really the only choice that Vince had given the situation. Jericho was the only person who could cleanly go over Hardy with any credibility, considering his recent victory over Hardy.

I hope that this is a short reign, and they screw him over and put the belt on someone more deserving. Jericho is long past being an IC title contender. He should only be going after world titles.
 
How do you see him as being a challenger for the WWE Title? He has done nothing.


At first, I was skeptical. However, putting the strap on Jericho was really the only choice that Vince had given the situation. Jericho was the only person who could cleanly go over Hardy with any credibility, considering his recent victory over Hardy.

I hope that this is a short reign, and they screw him over and put the belt on someone more deserving. Jericho is long past being an IC title contender. He should only be going after world titles.

He's the monster heel on RAW. He's always an option. Plus, he was rumoured to face Cena for the title last fall. So, it looks like eventually he'll have a feud with the WWE champ. Even though, it doesn't look too possible, I wanted to put up any possible challenger. Snitsky, believe it or not, is a possible challenger.
 
He's the monster heel on RAW. He's always an option. Plus, he was rumoured to face Cena for the title last fall. So, it looks like eventually he'll have a feud with the WWE champ. Even though, it doesn't look too possible, I wanted to put up any possible challenger. Snitsky, believe it or not, is a possible challenger.

Wouldn't that be reserved to YOU MANE GUH?

I would seriously be surprised to ever see Snitsky go for any world title. He sucks on the mic, he's crappy in the ring, and now that Big Show is back in the mix, it would just be very unlikely for Snitsky to even be put into the category of "possible" challenger. He wasn't even in the RAW chamber.
 
Wouldn't that be reserved to YOU MANE GUH?

I would seriously be surprised to ever see Snitsky go for any world title. He sucks on the mic, he's crappy in the ring, and now that Big Show is back in the mix, it would just be very unlikely for Snitsky to even be put into the category of "possible" challenger. He wasn't even in the RAW chamber.

I don't count Umaga. Usually a monster heel has one feud with the world champ for the title and that's it. Face it, Umaga is a great wrestler, and by far is my favourite superheavyweight of the decade, but his push is over. He's put in matches like the Elimination Chamber to fill it up. Snitsky is the next guy. After his feud with the champ he'll be nothing more than a squash match wrestler, too. As for Big Show, I don't count him as well, as he's on Smackdown, and he's proven himself not only as a monster heel.
 
Im sorry but you are all just dissapointed that he beat Jeff Hardy for it, I bet you if he beat JBL, you guys would be singing his praise. . but just because he beat Jeff, you guys are calling it a "dissapointment"

i take it this was directed towards me...first of all i don't care if he beat jbl or not it would still be a disappointment the way hes been booked...
 
I totally agree with you Jake. If Jeff Hardy was gonna lose the title, he should have lost it to someone who could have benefited like Kennedy, Carlito or Umaga even....Santino would have been a better choice. To me this is a step back for Y2J and it seems like they dont see him as a main eventer. Jericho's return has been dissapointing to say the least and I knew right away that putting him in a program with Orton who barely won the title was a bad idea because we all know that title reigns are never short in WWE
 
If anything, the fact that Y2J was chosen to run with the title after Hardy only shows what they really think of him since he has been back. he came back looking better, feeling better, and with a huge following behind him. There is no reason why they should not have gotten 2 to 3 world title main events out of him before dumping him off into secondary feuds. But do you notice how fast his main event push came and went? Not that he didn't have some fierce feuds, but they still were not main event feuds.

If Y2J came back for the money, then he came back to the right place as he would have been pushed harder in TNA and would have at least tested his true star potential by seeing if his presence would have made for a ratings boost or not.
 
The loss of Hardy will be a godsend for Jericho, considering Raw was overbooked with faces. With the lack of legit upper tier heels, Jericho was stuck in booking purgatory, in between main event and midcard status. Jericho can run with the IC title for a while, adding prestige back to the belt, while raising someone like..say, Kennedy's value.
 
The reason, and the only reason I was happy about this is because it means Jeff will becoming a champion. The reason they put it on Chris is because he was the only who could 'legitimately' take the title without it looking stupid for Jeff. The matches they had are very good anyway, so it is not all bad. Though they deffinately should have the IC title change hands to someone who needs it. This should work out for everyone in time hopefully.

As a side not, the reason Y2J was not given the title was most likely cause of Triple Hoe and his backstage politics.
 
Would Jericho even win this belt if Hard hadn't gotten suspended? I think this was merely just a move by the management to dump off the title on someone else before Hardy makes his sixty day abense.

Hardy doesn't have the title, but they give it to Jericho to appeal to the fans. Not a horrible thing to do, but would much rather have him in the main event realm.
 
Jericho is above IC level, and if not feuding for the title should be feuding with main event level guys. They should have given the IC to someone fresh (who I don't know) and included a quick angle for the title at WM24
 
Chris Jericho is a great pick for Intercontinental Champion right now. Even if it was done because Hardy f'ed himself over. Jericho needs something that'll replace him on top, or at least on top of the middle. His name isn't doing it like it did before, and holding this Championship could give it a better look.

Like Shockey said in another thread, the Intercontinental Championship hasn't been used properly and deserves someone who'll make it look like something again. Jericho could likely introduce great feuds to that title.

He has more than enough opportunity to feud with guys like Mr. Kennedy, Umaga, Paul Burchill. Even others like C.M. Punk, Elijah Burke, John Morrison, and main event guys like Shawn Michaels and Edge. The fact is, placing the title on Jericho was good for both the Championship and the wrestler.
 
I totally agree with you Jake. If Jeff Hardy was gonna lose the title, he should have lost it to someone who could have benefited like Kennedy, Carlito or Umaga even....Santino would have been a better choice. To me this is a step back for Y2J and it seems like they dont see him as a main eventer. Jericho's return has been dissapointing to say the least and I knew right away that putting him in a program with Orton who barely won the title was a bad idea because we all know that title reigns are never short in WWE



But Jericho can benefit, I don't know if you realize this, but he just broke his own record with the belt. HBK got big of breaking and making records. So to can Y2J. He has the most reigns. In all honesty, that is his best title.
 
I agree that the IC may be Jerichos best title, but I hope he doesnt hold onto it for long. I'd love to see Carlito get his push and win the belt. It could be a memorable feud, and would get Carlito some credibility. Personally I think a guy like Jericho doesnt need to have a title involved to have a good feud. If he gets put in a story with another good mic worker, then I think he can carry that feud without needing any titles involved. And no, JBL, no matter what, is not the right guy for that spot. Santino maybe?
 
I think that Jericho is basically going to inherit the push Hardy was ready to recieve. He beat him two weeks in a row, now he has the IC title, next stop MITB winner. It makes sense, cuz Kennedy really cant win it, unless they are having him walk out of Mania' the champ, so it looks like Jericho may be this years Edge and inherit a great opportunity. Remember Edge inherited the MITB from Kennedy, basically taking his push, Y2J is this years Edge. He is the only logical option at this point for MITB, although his return has been poorly done so far, this looks to be the chance to really push him. The IC Title is nice, but it is just a start of his push.
 
Doubt it, think they will play the "Kennedy changes his mind, he will have it at __________ if he wins" card and he will win it, if Y2J was to win it he'd be in main event WM24. Think its going to do down a benoit route when he came back, won USA title and that was it ect
 

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