I've Decided I Don't Like Kane

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He was my favourite wrestler when I was eight but, it should be noted, I was eight.

Daniel Bryan had some okayish matches with him and that's the best I remember getting from him for a long time. When he's on my television screen I'm usually either uninterested or embarrassed. As a comedy character he's decent; the Hell No period was pretty good.

His match with Bray Wyatt, horrible. His match with Zack Ryder, horrible. His matches with John Cena, horrible. In fact, if I never see him the same ring as John Cena again, it's too soon.

There's a sort of in-built respect for him because he's been around so long but I don't think he's deserving of it - particularly not for the wrestler he is.

I know this sounds horribly contrarian, or like a Dagger Dias post, but I do really want to know if there are like-minded people out there.
 
I used to love Kane. During his 2002-2003 face run especially, he was my absolute favourite wrestler. Then he lost his mask, and ever since then he's been descending to new levels of Meh every year.
 
I've always liked Kane to some degree. His work with Daniel Bryan in 2012 proves that if given good material, he can deliver to this day. Along with Sting, he is probably the most frequent receiver of poor material to work with though, especially during the PG era and some of the RA era.
 
Kane is the definition of a role player. He does his gimmick better than anyone else left in any major wrestling promotion, he can be counted on for a 3 star match with any competent opponent, and can be slotted into any multi-man match and help it along.
 
Oh yeah, it doesn't help they've neutered his fear factor to astronomical degrees since his debut. His 2003 unmasking was pretty scary at first, but then, he just became another guy on the roster. Now, his mask just looks like something from a Flintstones cartoon, and he's not in the slightest intimidating.
 
Kane is the definition of a role player. He does his gimmick better than anyone else left in any major wrestling promotion, he can be counted on for a 3 star match with any competent opponent, and can be slotted into any multi-man match and help it along.

He's a warm body, I'm not taking that away from him.
 
Put him in a tag team and have him work with a younger star. His best run in recent years was with Bryan, and I'd put part of the success down to having the more comedic back and forth element front and center, especially as he gets older and less mobile. Keep him as a semi-comedic version of Kane, a mentor Kane to a younger star (or tandem, if Ascension ever rises) and that should be good stuff.

Because let's face it... ain't that many people who can take Kane credibly as an opponent these days. If Cena's got the rep of coming from behind, Kane's got the rep of choking it in almost every big match.
 
I started to dislike Kane when I realized that after waiting months for a real Daniel Bryan title reign, I was getting a shitty feud with Kane that nobody can make good in 2014. I am also tired of the Cena/Kane matches and wasn't kidding in the Raw LD a week and a half ago when I said I was going to sleep before the Kane/Cena match. I didn't even need to read the results because I knew that (1) the outcome was obvious and (2) the match would suck.
 
Well, yeah. I don't know if it started with me pointing it out, but more and more people realize Kane's almost never had great matches. And with guys who usually have good matches he'll drag them down. To add to your list: Undertaker. The WM matches were really underwhelming and the 2010 series was just horrible all around.

However, he's one of the best character players ever, so that saves him. His moments, while sometimes underwhelming, are memorable and he often finds ways to stay (modestly) relevant.

Taking the mask away was a huge, huge mistake and it crushed him. It grounded his character, and his character was his greatest strength.
 
Although I did enjoy the Hell No shenanigans, I really have not cared too much about the man in quite a while. Sure he is a good hand, but sometimes that just isnt enough. Im solidly in the camp that wishes they never let him unmask, or ever start to speak for that matter. ( especially with that voice box thing)


Demons dont need to verbalize, they need to traumatize.
 
This is what happens when Daniel Bryan uses backstage politics and on screen shenanigans to bury a guy.

I just wish guys like Kane, Orton, Batista, and HHH understood wrestling well enough to have the foresight to prevent what Daniel Bryan would do to them once they were forced in to programs with the guy.
 
Kane is a complete switch-off. I haven't enjoyed a Kane singles match or Kane promo in so long. I feel the energy being sucked out of the room when he turns up, so oddly out-of-step in his comic book gimmick and his labouring in-ring style. Not a big fan of the man. Sure he can play a role but he'd be better (from my exclusive perspective) taking his ham act out on the road to the golden oldies circuit.
 
I don't dislike him but I'm also not excited when he comes down to the ring either.
It's no slight on the guy but he's been around long enough that there's just not much they can do with him anymore.

Same with guys like Mark Henry and Big Show.
 
Kane used to be THE return like 10 years back or so. Now, not so much.


Still one of my favs though. Soft spot.
 
I don't dislike him but I'm also not excited when he comes down to the ring either.
It's no slight on the guy but he's been around long enough that there's just not much they can do with him anymore.

Same with guys like Mark Henry and Big Show.

Actually there's plenty they can do with Henry these days. Unfortunately the big palooka keeps getting hurt.

But otherwise yeah, guys like Kane have been around for so long there's really not much they can do with them anymore and still be fresh. They basically lucked into Hell No.
 
I have a lot of respect for the guy, because he puts over a lot of newer talent. As a performer, I still think he is very good, especially if you consider his age and size.
 
I'm not big on using analogies, but Kane is like Jason Vorhees or Michael Myers. Rinse and repeat, that's all it is for Kane.

I did like COO Kane and feel they missed a great opportunity with that character.
 
Kane works/worked because he was so brutal and clinical physically. Now he's older and his moves look weak, his chokeslam looks weak, his punches look weak, he doesn't have that intimidation factor because he's size over substance. Guys like Lesnar, Cesaro, Reigns, Cena, Langston who are all genuinely strong and can show it totally show him up in the ring so the crux that his character requires to work isn;t there.

It doesn't help that they go half way with the gimmick. Full mask or no mask at all. The half mask deal doesn't do anybody any good. He just looks like a grown man in fancy dress. They should've stripped down that full-face mask he re-debuted with a couple of years back into something more lightweight and wearable and had that as his new mask. It's pretty badbottom.

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