Is There Any TRUE Reason To Dislike John Cena?

[Maddog Lionheart]

I ask this question because if you think about the reasons why the people that don't like, doesn't like him is because:

1. He plays to the younger crowd too much.
2. Five Moves Of Doom
3. Always has the title.
4. Supposedly undeserved face of WWE
5. He can't wrestle.

Now I think that this is kind of bullshit. A lot of superstars has moves that they do over and over in a match. But you can't say that he doesn't try to use different moves. (Gutwrench powerbomb, Fisherman Suplex).

Yes, he may play to the younger crowd a little more, but he gets paid to do that, and he's straight up honest about it.

Also, he does have the title a lot, but at least he's a good champion. You got to give him that.

You can't really say that he's undeserved to be the face of the WWE. He puts his life into the buisness first of all. The way that he acts in the ring is the EXACT way he acts outside of it. I've met the man and you can tell that everything he stands by is genuine. Not an act.

Also trust me, if he couldn't wrestle, he wouldn't be able to pull off moves that he does now. (Attitude Adjustment to Show AND Edge at the same time)
Plus, he doesn't use steriods like some wrestlers do.

So does the older crowd truly dislike him (with a actual good reason), or are they looking for something to whine about?

Let me feel what you feel.......

 

[Hyorinmaru]

Is there ever a True Reason to dislike someone?

Pro Wrestling (like most everything) is opinion based. I could give you 10 reasons why I like John Cena and the next Person could give you 10 reasons why the can not stand him and we would both be right.

I'm a 23 year old male and John Cena is one of my favorites and has been for years and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I also know that people are allowed to like and dislike whoever they want regardless of the reason and whether I think those reasons are 'good' or not.

 

[thegreekhero]

1. He plays to the younger crowd too much.
Its a PG product, learn to like it, or don't watch it. John Cena is the main source of money for the WWE... I mean... Vince... so obviously more TV time means more cash.
2. Five Moves of Doom
Like hes the only one... take HBK for example... in his last 10 years hes been doing this: gets beat up, comes back with an reverse atomic drop, flying forearm, diving elbow, sweet chin music. 4 MOVES. Yet they dont complain about that (exception because he is a legend?)
3. Always has the title.
How about HHH in the early 2000s, he held the title for most of the year, with help of Evolution. Cena isnt the only one... plus he hasnt been in the title picture for 10 months.
4. Undeserved face of the WWE
He pours his life into every single match. He is dedicated to the company and you can see it. When was the last time you have seen Cena gone... that was in 2009 in his match vs. Batista and he was ACTUALLY injured then... I dont believe he has ever taken a real break from WWE.
5. He cant wrestle
Really? Have you seen his work in OVW? His WWE moveset is just limited because of the character he portrays... if he didnt know how to wrestle, he wouldnt be where he is right now.

John Cena is a great athlete and a great wrest--...superstar. People bitch about him because they have no clue about what he really does for the company and the fans.

 

[Rip]

I'm so sick of everyone using the "small move set" or "5 moves of doom" argument for either side of any argument.

It's not about the moves, it's about the match. I mean Christ, Ric Flair had ZERO "moves" besides the Figure Four and he's one of the greatest of all time.
John Cena is "limited" but I wouldn't say he's bad, he doesn't botch, he sells... whatever. He's a limited "wrestler" but a tremendous PERFORMER.

On topic, I don't understand who you're aiming this thread towards. I don't think I've seen anyone on these forums says they hate John Cena the man, they hate John Cena the CHARACTER. That's all subjective and it's completely in their right. That's as "true" as you can get. Who are you to say if we "truly dislike him or are we just looking for something to whine about" and who are you to decide if we have "actual good reasons"?

OPINIONS CAN'T BE WRONG. It's in your right to like John Cena, and it's completely in our right to dislike him.

 

[punchline]

I'm so sick of everyone using the "small move set" or "5 moves of doom" argument for either side of any argument.

It's not about the moves, it's about the match. I mean Christ, Ric Flair had ZERO "moves" besides the Figure Four and he's one of the greatest of all time.
John Cena is "limited" but I wouldn't say he's bad, he doesn't botch, he sells... whatever. He's a limited "wrestler" but a tremendous PERFORMER.

On topic, I don't understand who you're aiming this thread towards. I don't think I've seen anyone on these forums says they hate John Cena the man, they hate John Cena the CHARACTER. That's all subjective and it's completely in their right. That's as "true" as you can get. Who are you to say if we "truly dislike him or are we just looking for something to whine about" and who are you to decide if we have "actual good reasons"?

OPINIONS CAN'T BE WRONG. It's in your right to like John Cena, and it's completely in our right to dislike him.

Umm, the problem with that is that John Cena the character and John Cena the man are essentially the same person, and there is a lot of hate on him regardless. And you're correct in saying opinions can't be wrong, but they CAN be flawed (for instance, hating one wrestler for the "5 moves of doom", yet ignoring the fact that your favorite wrestler may also do that, is not wrong but can be seen as a flawed opinion), and he's just simply trying to point out his perceived flaws in those opinions. and he's completely in his right to do so.

 

[MMK]

I dislike The John Cena character for one very simple and obvious reason: he's stale. His character has not evolved or shown any character development of any kind in at least 6 years. He does the same schtick week in week out.

Watching the same character do the same thing year in year out gets old fast. One of the reasons I like CM Punk is because his character evolves every year. His look, his personality, his status as a face or heel, it all changes frequently in order to keep things fresh.

Compare Cena to his upcoming WRESTLEMANIA opponent, The Rock. Rock's character was constantly evolving to keep it as fresh as possible. In 1996 he's babyface Rocky Maivia. In 1997 he's a heel in the Nation of Domination. In 1998 he becomes simply known as The Rock and becomes The Corporate Champion. In 1999, he's the top babyface for the first time. By 2002 he's back to a heel as "hollywood" Rock. And in 2003 he's retired. That's a major metamorphisis almost every year that he was in WWF.
You can do the same thing with Steve Austin. Austin was Ringmaster in 95, heel Stone Cold in 96, face Stone Cold in 97, a pop culture phenomenon in 98, a shocking heel turn in 01, then retires in 2003. Again, every year he changed things up just enough to keep things fresh.

I've seen no effort on WWE's part to keep the Cena character fresh. Part of it is they have no reason to do so seeing as how theirs no competition from a WCW or ECW, but mostly it's just bad writing and a lack of effort creatively. It's not just Cena's character though. A lot of the characters are stale. Big Show, Kane, Rey Mysterio, and a whole host of others fall into the same category.

I dislike stale characters especially when I don't see much of an effort being put in to shake things up. And I think that's a pretty damn good reason to dislike the Cena character or any character for that matter.

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

1. He plays to the younger crowd too much.
He started off as a heel, became a crowd favorite, and he plays to the entire audience. Kids love him because he appeals to them, women love him because hes buff, I'm an adult and I appreciate and respect everything he does in the WWE and for the WWE Universe.

2. Five Moves Of Doom
Every wrestler on the roster has a certain build up to the finish of a match. Its been proven that Cena does more than 5 moves, but when its coming down to the wire and hes going for the win, he pulls out his set and puts it on his opponent away. If Cena only has 5 moves then let me put a few other wrestlers everyone loves in perspective...
Hogan only had 3 moves
Austin only had 5 moves
Jericho 1002 moves
the Rock only had 5 moves
Orton only has 5 moves
Bret Hart, yep 5 moves
GET OVER IT ALREADY

3. Always has the title.
The WWE booked themselves into a corner by making the main event of WM28 the Rock vs Cena. The Miz could have held on to the WWE Title for just a while longer before giving it back to Cena. Its also interesting to note that Cena barely held the title last year because he was tied up with Wade Barrett and the New Nexus. So to say he "always" has the title is a lie.

4. Supposedly undeserved face of WWE
Undeserving? who is deserving if he isn't? Hes put his life and body on the line week end and week out for the past 7 years to get to where he currently is. He's granted more Make a Wish wishes than anyone in history. He travels for the company, he does press for the company, he does what every they ask of him. How is a person who is willing to do any and everything they can undeserving of what they have and where they are?

5. He can't wrestle.
Did you witness the match between CM Punk and Cena this past Monday on Raw? I'm pretty certain that he wrestled a great match on Monday vs Punk. Ive seen him in great matches with Triple H, Umaga, Orton, Batista, HBK, The Miz, and Jericho. If Cena can't wrestle then that must mean that no one else in the WWE that he's faced can wrestle either. This again is a argument that needs to be put to rest.

 

[Rip]

Umm, the problem with that is that John Cena the character and John Cena the man are essentially the same person, and there is a lot of hate on him regardless. And you're correct in saying opinions can't be wrong, but they CAN be flawed, and he's just simply trying to point out his perceived flaws in those opinions. and he's completely in his right to do so.

Firstly, it doesn't matter how similar he is to his on-screen persona because we're talking about professional wrestling and in the context of professional wrestling, he's completely cheesy. I would love to have a guy like John as my friend, but that doesn't mean I want him headlining the sport that I love so much. Conversely, I love CM Punk's heel persona and I would love for him to headline. If he were like that in real life, however, I WOULD NOT want him as my friend. That's why I made the distinction that people here dislike the character, not the man. Everyone here knows very well how dedicated he is about professional wrestling and that WWE is his life. But again, that doesn't matter, because what we're talking about is in the context of what we're watching on TV.
And opinions CAN NOT be "flawed". Opinions are just that, opinions. The reason or rhyme behind them is completely up to the person to whom it belongs. PERIOD. Why do people have such a hard time grasping this?

What do you expect to accomplish by taking someone else's opinion, then going point by point why you disagree with it and then insulting them at the end? Do you think all of a sudden everyone else will just go "Oh thank you so much, I now see the error in my ways! Thank you for showing me the light!"

 

[KnightShadow]

John Cena is a great performer. He plays to the kids because that is his JOB! That is why he is the face of WWE right now. Hogan had the same routine for years! He also played to the kids. I don't see people hating on him for it. All the faces of WWE have played a part according to the company line at the time. SCSA was great as a bad ass but he was just playing a part that was what the company wanted from him. As a real person he is not such an ass but people like him because of the caracter he played. I may not enjoy watching Cena wrestle but I have to admire the work ethic he has and all that he has doen for the WWE and the kids.

 

[ITALIAN NYC]

4. Supposedly undeserved face of WWE
Undeserving? who is deserving if he isn't? Hes put his life and body on the line week end and week out for the past 7 years to get to where he currently is. He's granted more Make a Wish wishes than anyone in history. He travels for the company, he does press for the company, he does what every they ask of him. How is a person who is willing to do any and everything they can undeserving of what they have and where they are?

5. He can't wrestle.
Did you witness the match between CM Punk and Cena this past Monday on Raw? I'm pretty certain that he wrestled a great match on Monday vs Punk. Ive seen him in great matches with Triple H, Umaga, Orton, Batista, HBK, The Miz, and Jericho. If Cena can't wrestle then that must mean that no one else in the WWE that he's faced can wrestle either. This again is a argument that needs to be put to rest.

I wanna comment on those 2.

The first one is that EVERY wrestler puts there life on the line and works there ass off, id say much more then Cena does also. Most of cenas matches consist of him getting beat up the whole time, and then hitting offense the last 1 min of the match. Other wrestlers have real matches that are back and forth and take higher risks then he does. By that logic, everyone should be the face of the WWE, not just Cena.

2. Cena really cant wrestle. He himself stated that hes not a good wrestler. He might know A LITTLE bit of how to wrestle, but he doesnt do what he use to do before he became the face of the company. He oversells things half the time, and the other half he never sells anything. There is no inbetween with Cena. His mic promos consist of him SCREAMING into the mic to get a reaction instead of just talking and grabbing an audience. When people wanna boo him when hes on the mic, hell bring up a subject that the audience cant boo ( smart by the way ).

I personally cant stand him and hate that he has the title. IF he was out of the title hunt and mid card for a while id probably enjoy seeing him work. Hed also be able to have some better matches that utilize whatever skill he has. When he comes out , i just get so annoyed cuz every segment usually goes well till he comes out with the same crap. He represents what i cant stand about wrestling today. The PG ERA. Hes no hogan , austin , rock , and he never will be. Nobody will. He looks like a 17 year old wearing jean shorts. I mean the least he can do is put black ones on , just for a change up .. Actually no, hold that off till he turns heel. At least it will be somewhat of a change.

This is what i miss him doing ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nDsz7St-Yk&playnext=1&list=PL4D51171530AF6DC9

 

[KNPKH2ster]

I don't hate Cena at all. I respect him as a person for what he does out of the ring such as donating to charities and his sponsorship to Make A Wish Foundation. I just don't like how his character is being utilized lately. I mean't that some of his promos sounds like he's reading off a script. However, I don't blame him personally, just creative for writing these promos. When The Rock came back in February, he cut a great promo. Now I'm not trying to favor The Rock over Cena in this message (maybe a little). It's just that The Rock's return promo can integrate into the PG rating and still sound great. I wonder, why doesn't Cena integrate good quality promos into PG? That's something I don't get.

 

[punchline]

Firstly, it doesn't matter how similar he is to his on-screen persona because we're talking about professional wrestling and in the context of professional wrestling, he's completely cheesy. I would love to have a guy like John as my friend, but that doesn't mean I want him headlining the sport that I love so much. Conversely, I love CM Punk's heel persona and I would love for him to headline. If he were like that in real life, however, I WOULD NOT want him as my friend. That's why I made the distinction that people here dislike the character, not the man. Everyone here knows very well how dedicated he is about professional wrestling and that WWE is his life. But again, that doesn't matter, because what we're talking about is in the context of what we're watching on TV.
And opinions CAN NOT be "flawed". Opinions are just that, opinions. The reason or rhyme behind them is completely up to the person to whom it belongs. PERIOD. Why do people have such a hard time grasping this?

What do you expect to accomplish by taking someone else's opinion, then going point by point why you disagree with it and then insulting them at the end? Do you think all of a sudden everyone else will just go "Oh thank you so much, I now see the error in my ways! Thank you for showing me the light!"

I'm sorry, when did i insult you? also, "What do you expect to accomplish by taking someone else's opinion, then going point by point why you disagree with it and then insulting them at the end? Do you think all of a sudden everyone else will just go "Oh thank you so much, I now see the error in my ways! Thank you for showing me the light"... Isn't that exactly what you just did? Now, let's go off your point. in MY opinion, opinions can't be wrong, but CAN be flawed. that's my opinion. apparently you're having a hard time grasping that...

 

[itssoeasy123]

It's all opinionated.

Alot of opinion's though can be flawed, like the bullshit "5 moves of doom," when essentially Hogan only did three to four moves during the 80's and is the biggest star of all time. How many moves you do in WWE DOESN'T MATTER! It has never ever matter's, before finisher's were a leg drop and a splash, moves have never mattered in the WWE.

The only thing I can see is why he would be hated is becuase of his character, which is the only real reason I can see someone hate Cena.

The way he gets people into his matches, the way he brings good matches out of bad opponent's, his charity work. He hardly ever botches, sell's when it's needed, and put's on exceptionally good matches every week. All great credential's for the top face.

 

[Rip]

I'm sorry, when did i insult you? also, "What do you expect to accomplish by taking someone else's opinion, then going point by point why you disagree with it and then insulting them at the end? Do you think all of a sudden everyone else will just go "Oh thank you so much, I now see the error in my ways! Thank you for showing me the light"... Isn't that exactly what you just did? Now, let's go off your point. in MY opinion, opinions can't be wrong, but CAN be flawed. that's my opinion. apparently you're having a hard time grasping that...

I'm talking about the OP, not you, which he did by saying basically we need a "true" reason (true being defined by him, naturally), otherwise we're just "looking for reasons to whine".
And while I may have been being sarcastic, that's hardly an insult.
Lastly, you originally said " And you're correct in saying opinions can't be wrong, but they CAN be flawed...". There, you stated that as fact. So go ahead and follow your circular logic on that one...

 

[Shilon006]

There really isn't a legit reason in my eyes. He works hard in and out the ring. Once in a while he throw in a new move here and there. All wrestlers have their move set. That's one of things that makes them different. Someone had a good point of HBK doing the same atomic drop bit. That's what he does and thats something that makes him HBK. I didnt read every post but I hear one reason is bc he's super Cena. I mean, isn't that what Hogan did? Same old getting beat to a pulp, kicks out of the persons finisher to do the wave finger, 3 punches, big boot into the leg drop. I wonder if ppl hated Hogan as much as ppl loved @ that time. As kids, for the most part, everyone loved Hogan. Ate up eat your vitamins & say your prayers. Cena has hustle loyalty respect. Hogan had the same gimmick for how many years til the NWO? he evolved one time and in time, went right back to the red and yellow and a lot of ppl loved it. The same gimmick before hand. Cena has hit gold with what he's doing and WWE is gonna cash in.

 

[punchline]

I'm talking about the OP, not you, which he did by saying basically we need a "true" reason (true being defined by him, naturally), otherwise we're just "looking for reasons to whine".
And while I may have been being sarcastic, that's hardly an insult.
Lastly, you originally said " And you're correct in saying opinions can't be wrong, but they CAN be flawed...". There, you stated that as fact. So go ahead and follow your circular logic on that one...

Just because you took it that way, doesn't mean thats what it was. don't try to tell me what i mean. this is a forum, as such, it should go without saying that almost anything anyone writes is his or her opinion. and nothing against you, but i don't wanna keep going off topic and spamming so i'll just leave it at that. I'll be more than happy to continue this through messages i guess if you really want to.

 

[Maddog Lionheart]

1. He plays to the younger crowd too much.
He started off as a heel, became a crowd favorite, and he plays to the entire audience. Kids love him because he appeals to them, women love him because hes buff, I'm an adult and I appreciate and respect everything he does in the WWE and for the WWE Universe.

2. Five Moves Of Doom
Every wrestler on the roster has a certain build up to the finish of a match. Its been proven that Cena does more than 5 moves, but when its coming down to the wire and hes going for the win, he pulls out his set and puts it on his opponent away. If Cena only has 5 moves then let me put a few other wrestlers everyone loves in perspective...
Hogan only had 3 moves
Austin only had 5 moves
Jericho 1002 moves
the Rock only had 5 moves
Orton only has 5 moves
Bret Hart, yep 5 moves
GET OVER IT ALREADY

3. Always has the title.
The WWE booked themselves into a corner by making the main event of WM28 the Rock vs Cena. The Miz could have held on to the WWE Title for just a while longer before giving it back to Cena. Its also interesting to note that Cena barely held the title last year because he was tied up with Wade Barrett and the New Nexus. So to say he "always" has the title is a lie.

4. Supposedly undeserved face of WWE
Undeserving? who is deserving if he isn't? Hes put his life and body on the line week end and week out for the past 7 years to get to where he currently is. He's granted more Make a Wish wishes than anyone in history. He travels for the company, he does press for the company, he does what every they ask of him. How is a person who is willing to do any and everything they can undeserving of what they have and where they are?

5. He can't wrestle.
Did you witness the match between CM Punk and Cena this past Monday on Raw? I'm pretty certain that he wrestled a great match on Monday vs Punk. Ive seen him in great matches with Triple H, Umaga, Orton, Batista, HBK, The Miz, and Jericho. If Cena can't wrestle then that must mean that no one else in the WWE that he's faced can wrestle either. This again is a argument that needs to be put to rest.

Hey French Kiss, glad to see your on my thread. I stated these reasons because they are the main ones people don't like about him. They are all opinions I know, but you make outstanding points. I really do think though that critics are critics. Everyone has them, but they are just bad critics, in my opinion.

 

[Maddog Lionheart]

I do want to say this as well. I'm a big fan of John Cena myself, he's not my favorite but I am a big fan of his. I do want to see him do some more different stuff. Hell. I can say that about 90% of the roster. Is that the issue people have with John Cena?

 

[Rip]

I'm not telling you what you mean. I'm simply saying that you said in fact form, not opinion form. If you originally said "I THINK opinions can be flawed..." that's a different story. I think you're confusing the difference between "subjective" and "objective".

and...

I do want to say this as well. I'm a big fan of John Cena myself, he's not my favorite but I am a big fan of his. I do want to see him do some more different stuff. Hell. I can say that about 90% of the roster. Is that the issue people have with John Cena?

To some people, yes. Many issues have been stated above. I'm sure you dislike some wrestlers as well, are your reasons any less legit? Nope.

 

[punchline]

I'm not telling you what you mean. I'm simply saying that you said in fact form, not opinion form. If you originally said "I THINK opinions can be flawed..." that's a different story. I think you're confusing the difference between "subjective" and "objective".

and...



To some people, yes. Many issues have been stated above. I'm sure you dislike some wrestlers as well, are your reasons any less legit? Nope.

like i said, i dont want to keep spamming and derailing this thread. i sent you a message if you want to continue this debate.

 

[Rammsteinerteen]

I'm an eighteen and I love ROH's wrestling and Japanese's wrestling, but I also enjoy John Cena, sure I don't get riled up during his promos and interview segments, but I absolutely love his matches. He makes awesome matches and he DOES know how to put people over. He put over CM Punk last week!

1. He plays to the younger crowd too much.

Unfortunately it's true, but it does not make him a bad wrestler, or a bad talker.

2. Five Moves Of Doom

This is getting old, John Cena has a lot of moves when he needs it. And his matches are great too, just look at his PPV matches last year, barely any were bad.

3. Always has the title.

He isthe face of the WWE, but it does get old. Either way, he always challenges a new guy, young or old, it's always someone new, No more Blandy Boreton.

4. Supposedly undeserved face of WWE

He draws, his matches are good, he knows how to get the audiences attention, honestly, this is out of the question. Adults don't constantly buy WWE merchandise the way kids do, so honestly, John Cena is a great face for the PG era, as Stone Cold was for the attitude era.

5. He can't wrestle.

This is preposterous, just preposterous. He's been wrestling for awhile now, and I have seen him go technical also.

I'm not a John Cena fan, but I definitely enjoy him. But I hate Randy Orton, I can't believe this guy is not hated at the same level as John Cena. He insults Christian for being carried by Edge, but he doesn't condescend to think he was carried by Evolution and Legacy? What a fucking ****** he is.

 

[xXBigEXx]

While this is professional wrestling you can't underestimate people who simply may not like a wrestler because of who the kayfabe individual is. What they may have done outside the ring. It also can be the same on the flip side of that as well.

Cena the man gets my respect for the dedication he brings outside of the ring. I may not like what creative does with him or what he can be in at any given point but I'll never hate on him.

We know some of the outside things because sometimes we simply want to know. That's why we probably visit Wrestle Zone to begin with. We go all into seeing what's going on in the wrestling business good or bad.

The average fan probably goes for the character and what they see on screen because that's all they know. An full blown fan probably has their favorite based on this as well but could be more influenced by the wrestler's kayfabe acts.

Bottom line point is that opinions can vary based on what kind of fan you are and neither way is wrong. It's all on what you know, and what you see.

 

[Rckstrtmmy]

I really don't hate Cena, I'm just bored of him. Most of his matches are booked the same and that bothers me alot. On the other hand, he's awesome on the mic and charismatic as hell, and I can respect him for taking everything in stride. He's a very believable champion as well which is lacking in the WWE nowadays. He adds prestige to the title. Whoever takes it from him next will get a HUGE boost. I just wish they'd switch things up with him a little bit. I know he knows more than the 5 moves of doom as he shows from time to time, he should open things up more and his matches would be a little more entertaining for me. I'd love if they added a little edge to his character. His program with The Rock is letting him show a little more machismo which I like. Bottom line I just think he needs a little refresher but as a performer there's no one better right now.

 

[LegendKiller716]

I dont like his gimmick. It sucks. There are very few people that can be serious and funny in one promo, such as HBK, HHH, and The Rock. Cena tries and fails.

Also, I don't like him as champion. He is very stale when he has the belt. He hasn't held the title in a while, and I have enjoyed it. His stuff with Nexus was really good. I think Cena is better chasing the gold than he is holding it.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

1. He plays to the younger crowd too much.

So did Hulk Hogan, yet look at how many of us that grew up idolizing the guy still love him. I fail to see why it was ok for Hulk Hogan but not John Cena.

2. Five Moves Of Doom

Every wrestler has a handful of signature moves that they pull out in every match. Randy Savage, Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, The Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Undertaker, AJ Styles, CM Punk, Rey Mysterio, John Morrison, Daniel Bryan, Shelton Benjamin, Randy Orton, Christian, Sheamus and I could go on. They all had/have their own "Five Moves of Doom" just as the guys who'll be superstars 10 years from now will. A lot of people that just plain hate Cena will hate him no matter what, even if they have to twist a well known commonality like all wrestlers having a handful of similar moves in order to make it fit their own logic.

3. Always has the title.

There are a lot of things wrong with this other very common argument. For one thing, John Cena spent most of 2010 and the first 4 months of 2011 without the WWE Championship. So he doesn't "always have the title". For another thing, John Cena is a legit big draw. He draws in viewers and has for better than half a decade. That means that John Cena makes money. Whether you want to watch him to cheer him or watch him in the hopes of him getting beaten, you watch him. As a result, it's perfectly legitimate that he should be at least within the title picture.

4. Supposedly undeserved face of WWE

As with a lot of arguments against the guy, there's little to no foundation for this common complaint. Cena works his ass off in his matches, delivers promos, is out there in the world promoting WWE 24/7. I mean, it's not like he's gotten busted for drug possession like Rob Van Dam or been named by Sports Illustrated as someone that was on a list of wrestlers said to have recieved steroids like Ken Anderson or is a confirmed drug addict with multiple drug felonies hanging over his head like Jeff Hardy. Can anybody say with a straight face that any of those three is more deserving than John Cena to be the "face" of a pro wrestling company that makes hundreds upon hundreds of millions of dollars a year?

5. He can't wrestle.

If your definition of "wrestle" is flipping and flopping all over the ring, leaping over the top rope in one suicide dive/high spot after another, sacrificing storytelling, basic selling of moves, in-ring psychology all for the purpose of merely squeezing in as many big spots as you can, then Cena can't wrestle.

It might sound like I'm a huge fan of Cena's but I'm really not. I like the guy alright, he does annoy me at times, but the guy does get a lot of unjustified and downright unreasonable hate sometimes.