Is Sting The One That Got Away?

[HodgePodge]

I was just thinking today after reading that Sting was considered for the WWE HOF 2009 class that he was really the only 'Superior' WCW star to not step foot in a WWE ring. I wonder if that bothers Vince somewhere in the back of his mind, for Sting to be one of the hottest wrestling commodities in the 90's and Vince never really had a shot at him. We all know Vince has a massive ego...To me it just seems like it would upset him

P.S. I don't know if this should be in the WWE section, so if it needs to be moved, I apologize

 

[RazorsEdge666]

Sting does not like vince... But i believe if sting does go to WWE at any point in time, Vinve will pay him very nicely, and we will have our all time dream match... UNDERTAKER vs STING...

 

[Boogeyman666]

I,happen to be a sting fan or mark I would presume is the correct word.There is no doubt in my mind that Vince wanted to Sting to walk the WWE halls.However,I highly doubt Sting would've had any impact other then being served up to the almighty,gotta have the spotlight son in law of his.I,respect Sting more as a wrestler that he didn't go and become just another notch in triple h's "ghost of wcw past beatdowns".

 

[GNR8701]

Sting wouldnt be the one that got away because he was never vince's to begin with so he never got away he just stayed away. But of course he is the one that Vince has got to want the most. Sting is easily the biggest star in wrestling during the wrestlemania era to never work for the mcmahon family. I would love to see sting get into the wwe just for the dream matches but I would love it more for him to stay away and prove to everyone that you can become a legend without ever in your career working for wwe.

 

[C4Mahdee]

Nice post btw.
My take on this is pretty close with everybody else's. But allow me to throw my in anyway.
The fact Vince McMahon has never been able to have Sting in his company eats away at him. It has to. Say what you will about the man, even he marks out for Sting.
Borden knows it too. It has to make that man feel so good to know he has basically had his career in his hands almost in it's entirety. I mean that because if you spent any time in the employ of Vince McMahon, he owns that part of your career. If a wrestler leaves and goes to TNA or in the 90s WCW and they want to do a retrospective. Take Jarrett for example. He's putting together a DVD right now and even being as close as he claims he is to the McMahons, can't even use any World Wrestling Federation or WCW footage. It's as if that part is gone. Sting got caught in the "library" unfortunately, but he's still Sting.
I think it tears Vince apart, when he allows himself to think about it. I'll bet he doesn't think about it much.
The other thing mentioned in this thread was the ever popular Sting vs Undertaker. I for one would mark the hell out. It would be good. Too bad it will most likely never happen. Of course that's what everyone thought about Freddy vs Jason...wait, never mind that.

 

[Black Snow]

I've always been under the impression that Vince thinks if someone hasn't spent time in the WWE then they can't possibly be as over as they think they are. (I hope that makes sense.) In Vince's mind, someone like Sting was always a big fish in a small pond.

Vince wants to sink his teeth into every big WCW name, completely bury them and then gloat saying that he's proven these guys aren't anything special once they get to the big time. This is why the InVasion angle failed. This is why Scott Steiner and Goldberg - not that either of them were even decent in the ring when WWE hired them - failed. Consciously or not, Vince decided that he was going to make sure they had less than spectacular WWE runs.

However, Sting has a lot of people within the WWE tooting his horn for him. He won't admit it but Vince will know that Sting is a big name that actually could wrestle in his day. I'm guessing that Sting will leave TNA after Bound for Glory this year and call it a career. He'll sit on the sidelines for a few months. Vince will give him a call and offer Sting a one year deal culminating with a Hall of Fame induction at Wrestlemania 27. Sting debuts the night after Wrestlemania 26. From there he'll run through all the big names the WWE has to offer including HBK at Summerslam and finally Undertaker at 'Mania. To make it slightly different from what Flair did Sting will say that he's retiring after 'Mania if he wins or loses.

Even though he's stayed away for so long I would be shocked if Sting didn't have one final year in the WWE. Heck, the company is toning everything down as of late. The WWE is as PG as possible now.

So yes, Vince is probably a little cheesed that he's never had Sting but I'm willing to bet a hefty sum that he will get him sooner than later.

 

[Deexter Jorgan]

I doubt Sting will ever go to the wwe, The reason why he went for TNA in the first place was the fact that it was less work and more reward, he had a chance to work with alot of guys he liked and get opportunities a guy in the twilight of his career wouldn't have gotten, that the reason why most go to TNA in the first placem great pay less hours, If the WWE can structure a deal similar to what TNA is giving him for less(which i highly doubt) then we may see Sting in a WWE ring, but i dont think Vince would want to invest that kind of money on someone only to have it blow up in his face (see Scott Steiner and Bill Goldberg).

 

[HBK = Greatest Ever]

I don't think Sting will ever be in the WWE, he's 50 or so. Other than wrestling Taker or HBK, who he's friends with, what would be the point. I don't think he'd fit in the wwe anymore, Sting vs Edge,Orton, Cena, I don't think any of it would work, he's too much of a 80's type character. It' is a shame that he didn't come to wwe ever cause like Flair said he would have become an even bigger star with mcmahon. Also I don't think Vince wanted guys from wcw to fail in wwe there were just 2 of the least talented wrestlers ever, steiner and goldberg.

 

[italyanstallyan]

I'd be happy either way. Sting has proven that you don't need Vince McMahon to become a legend in wrestling these days. If he retires with TNA, he'll go down in history as the biggest wrestler to never work for WWE. If he goes to WWE for a year, he could end his career with some awesome dream matches with guys like Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Edge, etc. Sting can do whatever he wants. He's earned it.

 

[TheICON562]

Ok being the reliable Sting fan that I am I am happy to post on this topic. I think that Sting is the best wrestler that did not step foot on a WWE ring. Just like Shawn Michaels is the best wrestler that never step foot in a WCW ring. I think that if Sting was to accept any offer from Vince McMahon that he would be used the right way. First off, you give him a title run. If you gave Goldberg, Booker T the title then honor the guy and give him his due. Now obviously he would work a limited schedule, but hey when you have 1 tv appearance per week and a monthly ppv how much harm does it hurt? Now I think he should be brought in with his CROW gimmick and his attitude he has now. I mean he looks so bad ass right now wearing that purple coat and changing it back to the black/red. Yes and Undertaker and Shawn Michaels match is needed as well as fueding with Jericho and possibly Orton. I would love to see Sting in the WWE if only for 1 year, because these past 4 years have gone by fast. Even at 50 he can still put on a good match, but he needs to be used and creative much be "creative" with him.

 

[FromTheSouth]

I don't think Sting is the one that got away at all. He would have been good for a year or two, but when WCW died, he was already on the decline. He couldn't come to WWF/E during his prime because he was the biggest face on WCW. For a time, it was Sting vs NWO. I was thinking that (at the time) they should have built every non-NWO wrestler up with Sting to take on the NWO. But no, they made a new NWO, so Sting could be in one.

Either way, Sting couldn't have some to WWE at his peak, and at the time that he could have gone, he would have had to take a major demotion to do so. There was no way Sting would have pulled even with Stone Cold, HHH, Rock, Undertaker, Mankind, etc.... during that period.

Vince raided WCW for what he wanted. He got good years out of Booker, Flair, Benoit, and Eddie, and is still getting good work from Jericho and Mysterio.

 

[finneycom1]

I would not consider Sting as a major player that got away. If it was still the 90's, then maybe. However, even though, an "in his prime" Sting, never wrestled for Vince, you gotta look at all of the stars that have come through WWE. Sting never wrestled in WWE, but "Taker, Michaels, Hart, Austin, Triple H, and so many more did.

However, even as big as Sting was and still is, if WWE could have signed him back in the day, he would be much bigger star, ten-fold. Even through the Monday Night Wars when WCW was beating WWE, I still thought the production for WCW was second to WWE. Plus, their PPV's sucked big time, even at the height of the NWO. I just think with the marketing machine of the WWE and their earlier writing team, they could have made Sting a household name like Hogan.

But, with Sting never wrestling there, that just adds to his mystique and character as a pro wrestler.

So, no, I dont consider him the one that got away. But, if he had signed at the height of his career, it would have been fun to watch. If he does wrestle now in a WWE ring, it should be a one-time deal. His surfer, earlier gimmick was too 80's, his crow is too 90's, and now, he just wouldn't have a good program with anyone, outside the Undertaker.

 

[GameOver]

THis is a repeat post from another topic.

I fail to see what everyone's fascination with Sting is. He is nothing other than someone that got a huge push in WCW and was labeled a legend.

He repeats himself on the mic over and over again and has a fascination with saying his opponents name every sentence. His ring work bar a couple of moves per match is shit aswell, also wears makeup that rubs off a few mins into a match and looks exhausted after a few moves

Ofcourse thats just my opinion and i respect yours.

But please state what he actually does that is awesome?

WWE needs Sting about as much as Vince McMahon needs help to save for his retirement.

Maybe in his hay day b4 he went the Crow gimmicl he was like the Ultimate Warrior but with brains and respect but those days are long gone.

I will give him one big prop he doesn't seem to have an issue with losing to help someone else which is a good trait.

 

[slimmshady]

Sting does not hate vince one bit, he just didn't like the way the wcw stars, during the invasion in 2001, were treated in terms of the storylines made for them. I remember watching a interview with sting on his dvd saying that he was approached by vince and was asked if he wanted to join the wwf/e, once sting became refreshed after a break (during that period, sting was becoming burnt out so the takeover of wcw really helped him). Sting told vince that he would think about it, even though he was tempted to take up the offer. However, he said that one day he tuned in on wwf to watch the invasion story but he saw a scene which completely changed his decision to join. That scene was when the rock and booker T were back to back of eachother and both turned around to find themselves looking into the eyes of eachother. But the look in the rock's face seemed to suggest to sting that he was saying to booker, who are you? So that actually made him turn away the offer.

 

[OCTheEagle]

To give some further explanation to Slimmshady post. Sting found it very disrespectfull that TheRock used the 'What is your name? My name is Booker...it doesn't matter what your name is' joke to BookerT.

Looking back at the WCW Invasion, the only 2 wrestlers who ever reached the main event/won a world title were BookerT (after many years) and RVD (once again after many years). For some reason, wrestlers who got huge without Vince, have to prove themself all over again when joining WWE.

 

[finneycom1]

Two things:
One, what Sting dvd is it? I have seen a view Sting dvd's out there, and have wanted to get one, but didnt know which one to get.

Two, if that is the reason Sting did not join WWE; that's just STUPID!! Everyone knows that was just the Rocks character. He did that with everyone from WCW during the invasion angle. Hell, he's even did it to WWE wrestlers. I honestly think there may be another reason why Sting didnt go to WWE. I just dont know why?

 

[blkbrucewillis]

At this point in his career I don't think it would be a good idea for Sting to join the WWE in a wrestling capacity. I was the hugest Sting fan when I was younger but honestly nowadays it kind of hurts watching the guy wrestle. His in ring abilites are not up to the level they once were and I hope he just hangs up the boots and accept his spot in the WWE HOF.

 

[hoffman40]

Vince wants to sink his teeth into every big WCW name, completely bury them and then gloat saying that he's proven these guys aren't anything special once they get to the big time. This is why the InVasion angle failed. This is why Scott Steiner and Goldberg - not that either of them were even decent in the ring when WWE hired them - failed. Consciously or not, Vince decided that he was going to make sure they had less than spectacular WWE runs.

Former WWE World Champions that came from WCW:

Rey Mysterio, Big Show, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Booker T, and Post NWO Hogan.... Now how can you say that Vince buries all the big name WCW stars to prove a point? Steiner and Goldberg were tomato cans in the ring and didnt live up to expectations. I think that maybe some of those WCW guys who had that laid back schedule and ring attitude and job security(Hogan) couldnt cut it when they realize that they have to work much harder in the WWE. And by the way didn't the Invasion angle give a lot of those guys at WCW some much needed exposure and more importantly a JOB!! Vince McMahon doesn't bury guys...he simply wants the best talent and hardest workers and if they can't cut it then theyre fired.

On the issue of Sting,
I don't think he'll work in WWE for a few reasons. First, the schedule is going to be too demanding even if its a schedule similar to HBK's. Sting could easily sign a deal to work only Raw and one house show but what kind of example would that set in the locker room. Second, Raw's content is too much to handle for Sting and his "faith" as stated in interviews in the past. Granted, Raw has gone PG and TNA seems to have stepped it up in terms of being edgy. Third, Sting wants to retire and be done with wrestling for good.

I do think he will be inducted into the Hall of Fame and I think that he'll actually show up. It would be a tremendous honor for WWE to recognize a guy like Sting who gave so much to the business but never worked for the promotion. I think Sting knows how much of an honor that is too.

Expect Flair to induct him as well.

 

[Black Snow]

There's a difference. Show, Jericho, Guerrero and Benoit came to the WWE by choice while the Monday Night Wars were still going on. It's easier to want to push a guy who makes the choice to believe that the pasture is greener on your side than it is the competitions. But still, even then look at how long it took for Vince to give the last three of those guys a true shot at the main event. Fans were desperate to see him as champ in early 2000 and it wasn't until late 2001 that he got a belt. And even after he lost his title in early 2002 he never got a true sniff of a World title again for six and a half friggin' years. It took years and years to get Benoit and Guerrero their titles as well.

Now look at the guys who only came after WCW was dead and they didn't have many other options. Booker was treated as a joke for the longest time who had to wait five years and for a dead SD! main event picture to become a six-time champ. Who can ever forget the infamous Wrestlemania XIX Pedigree? Rey was treated well but he would have never gotten near the IC/U.S. title let alone a World title if not for Eddie's death. Steiner and Goldberg are the worst case scenarios, no question thanks to their limited in ring ability and Goldberg making it known that he was only sticking around for one year. But there is a very clear trend of guys who were big in the old WCW not getting treated nearly as well as guys who Vince considered to be homegrown talent.