Is it me or does anyone else think Orlando Jordan is absolutely terrible?

[saleh_hbk]

I remember watching the Hulkamania tour and he was terrible in the ring, he made so many mistakes etc, and everybody hated him.

What do you think , why does Bischoff like him, does anyone in these forums see him as a future star? lol

Im not bi*ching here just want to see if anyone else is on the same boat as me.

and LOL http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Orlando-Jordan-SUCKS/312591612098?ref=nf

 

[Poɘt]

I'm trying to figure out what people think is so bad about him. He's a good wrestler in the ring, so that can't possibly be it. And he hasn't gotten on the mic or said anything odd for people to want him to keep quiet.

I wasn't a fan of him in WWE, but I think he's improved greatly since then. I really feel like if Orlando Jordan had just come from RoH rather than being a friend of Hogan and former WWE talent, that people wouldn't be so negative about him in TNA.

I'm the last person who expected to like Orlando Jordan in TNA, but already he's shown me he can hang with the talent in the ring, and he has a bit of swagger about him that can make him an appealing character on TV.

If people aren't giving him a chance because he's being used over guys like Daniels, then that's not a good enough reason. Because TNA has pushed Daniels and plenty of "home grown" talent, and it didn't get them to the places that TNA is about to go with the addition of talent like Jordan.

 

[Schizophrenic]

If I remember Eric was always a fan of Booker T and if Books is not there then I guess Eric wants a bad knockoff. I've never cared for Orlando and I'm hoping it's only a matter of time before even Eric realizes that this guy is a worse draw than anyone in WCW ever was and gives him the boot. Thanks for trying but no thanks. I know he's a good wrestler but a good wrestler does not always draw. He's never stood out or had anything that makes him different than the rest. His promo abilities are no where near as ggood as any of the guys in TNA. Not the Guns, not Pope, not even Styles. He comes off as very generic to me with nothing at all that makes me go "wow".

 

[Pedro08]

I would say that his in-ring work so far in TNA has been pretty solid overall. There have been no glaring mistakes that I can think of. However, we have been given absolutely no reason to care for this guy. He hasn't cut any promos so we don't know why he's in TNA or what he wants to accomplish. He just goes out to the ring and for some reason gets victories against The Pope and Samoa Joe.

 

[Tiger Chaos Theory]

I don't have a problem with Jordan myself, I just think that at this point, even though he is light-years ahead of where he used to be, he is still pretty average.

But I'm not calling him out as being the epitome of wrestling failure like the rest of the IWC is either. The guy isn't as bad as people want to believe he is.

I think people aren't willing to even give the guy a chance which I'm trying not to do right now. But until he proves otherwise, he is just meh in my opinion.

 

[bullsgo]

The one thing Orlando Jordan has going for him is that he' a former WWE superstar and US champion. That means mainstream wrestling fans have a history of him. However, though Jordan is a solid worker in the ring, there's nothing about his in ring character which stands out to me other than him being a flamboyant bisexual. We've seen this gimmick before(Gold Dust, Adonis, Adrien Street etc) and its been done to death. That being said, perhaps TNA can milk that for all its worth. After all, how many tall muscular, effeminate, openly bisexual black men are there in pro wrestling? That itself might get the people talking about the product or turn people away. If TNA decides to go in this direction, how far will they take it? Will they have him come on to another wrestler? Will he have a male valet? If they were smart they would drop the effeminate stuff and play him as a normal acting male who happens to be bisexual.

 

[wushady]

I don't think he should be at the level tna has brought him in at. There's no way he should be beating established tna originals like Daniels and Joe. He could be a descent low card or maybe even mid card in time. I don't know where he's been wrestling since he left wwe, but you would think he would have improved his skills since then to me he actually looks worse I think his push has something to do with the Hulkamania tour. Maybe this is Hulks way of paying talent back that worked the tour. The shows didn't make nearly as much as expected. Just a thought but most of the guys that worked the show have debuted with tna already, have beat guys who have been there for a while. That could be part of their deal for not getting the paydays they were promised for the tour.

 

[marklouis]

I don't think he's bad, but I don't think he's anything special either. As someone else said, he is generic. The one thing that could make him interesting is if TNA is willing to run with the bisexual angle, but they cut it out of tonight's episode. Maybe that's because they didn't want to create controversy before the move to Mondays, but I would think this would be the perfect time to build buzz. Jordan is just okay, but I don't have a problem with him being on the roster. As for Morley and the Nasty Boys, they are useless.

 

[Spicytunahandroll]

Few points here
* I think as someone above said that he get's a bad rap from his WWE days and just can't break out of it.

* He is not a great wrestler but is not horrible. He is solid in the ring and sells moves well but seems to have trouble delivering moves with impact.

*He has a great look to him with the long hair and he is in great shape. His face leaves something to be desired but is not a ugly person.

*He really seems forced when "acting " in the ring when interacting with the crowd and doing signs for moves but it is not as noticible as it was a while back.

*I don't personally believe he has any star qualities. He is a serviceable guy and a good enhancement to mid card guy but nothing more. But I can see how people could see him as a possible break out guy cause, it is there, but,

I don't ever see him hitting on it.

I think if people just forgot all that they know about him and just watched him they would realize that he is not that bad.

I did not know much about him before he came to TNA recently except for some of the stuff with JBL. He always seem like a decent wrestler but never really noticed him in WWE.

Since he has been in TNA, I , to my surprise, have not had nothing bad to say about him. Hell he is better than the Nasty Boys, Sean Morely, Bubba, TLS, and Hall and Xpac.

SO I SAY THUMBS UP SO FAR.

 

[El AlcoHALLic]

I didn't care for him in WWE as a wrestler but he worked as a JBL Goon and his reversal card in Raw Deal kicks ass.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but he's been on every impact since his debut in the company so obviously somebody there thinks he has potential.

I see him as a solid upper mid card mechanic. From what I've seen he has improved a lot since his WWE run and he puts on some pretty entertaining beliveable matches. I liked the finish of his match with Joe where he caught him with that neckbreaker and won.

I fully expected oe to go out there and sqaush him Goldberg style but they booked the match in a way that kinda showcased OJ's toughness a little bit.

He was terrible, but now he's not as bad. I don't mind him. I was enjoying the little feud he had going on with Pope. That had some funny moments at OJ's expense.

 

[GenMe]

Orlando will not be a champion in the future. He does have some ring skill,He doesnt have the best ring skills but he could move in the ring.Yeah he fucks up here in there but he still has a job in TNA i dont know why but he does.

Maybe TNA is planning a major angle with him and Joes, And that could be the only reason why he still has a job in TNA.

In the WWE he had a US Title reign but that was because of JBL not because he earn it,Because JBL was a Champion and his Goon also Needed a Championship around his waist.

 

[Suneeboy]

Absolutely Terrible? Definitely not. The Great Khali is absolutely terrible. Orlando Jordan has been on Impact a total of how many times? Four, maybe five times the most…how can the jury be out on him already? He has shown that he can contribute to the show and play a role.

Let’s give guys more than a month before we start throwing the kitchen sink at him, and let Impact go head-to-head with RAW for a couple of months before you start crowning or denouncing folks as stars or busts.

Bischoff likes him…so what? Is he going to have the title tomorrow and headline pay-per views? No he isn’t so why the hissy fit?

 

[Mitch Henessey]

The other day I read an something on the homepage that just made me scratch my head. I read this piece of news that said Eric Bischoff was high on "Orlando Jordan". I couldn't help asking my self one thing...Why?

Even when he was in WWE, I still didn't see anything special about him. He was the "Chief Of Staff" in JBL's stable, but still, he just felt out of place, and looked awkward in that stable. Wrestling wise there's nothing that really wows me in that department either. His matches aren't horrible, but they're not usually all that good either.

I really don't care about Orlando Jordan, but I think he needs more time before can declare him terrible. He has a fresh start in TNA, and he hasn't been on TV that much, so maybe he needs more time develop. His new character is sort of unique, so let's see where it goes.

 

[Notorious718]

I personally couldn't give two shits about Orlando Jordan. He did nothing to impress me during his run in the WWE and so far hasn't done anything to impress me in TNA. Of course, he hasn't been there very long so I'm willing to give him another chance this time around. He comes off as being quite generic to me and he lacks the charisma that other superstars have such as Pope... I'm not really sure if he has a gimmick.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Well, I don't think I'd go so far as to say he's terrible but I certainly don't think he's a superstar either. I've watched him in the ring and while he's a solid worker overall, he still just strikes me as kind of average.

The only thing that really makes him stand out is TNA openly hinting to Jordan's bisexuality, but that's just who he is in his personal life. As for what we're shown of him as an on screen character, we can only guess how much of the flamboyant image he gives off is actually him and how much is just what TNA has saddled him with.

 

[Aversion]

There are a few reasons why some people (including me) dislike Orlando Jordan.

1) He is too much like Booker T. He is another black guy who is 250 lb. and 6'4. Orlando was too late to generate any interest.

2) He is too much like The Pope. When they wear the same thing like they did in their match about a month ago, it's hard to see the difference. (Sorry, I can't say this without sounding a bit racist.)

3) I've never seen him use a submission move. Every move he has is a drop or a kick. (Or a dropkick.)


Well, that's about it. He might not be the worst in the ring, but he has no charisma, and he isn't around at the right time. And it doesn't help that he picked up wins against huge stars WAY too early. That doesn't work well in TNA. See: Morley.

 

[Tainted Meat]

He shouldn't be on PPV's at this point, as he hasn't been put in a place to have a real character or an honest issue with anyone, but if he's a slow build, I don't mind him. They do need enhancement talent on TNA, despite how many wrestlers they might have on the roster. I, for one, don't want to see MCMG, Homicide or Jay Lethal getting their asses handed to them every week because they want to push this guy or that guy again. It works to have Jordan around, give him a little bit of credibility, then push him if he proves to be more than what we think, or have him job out if he isn't.

Hell, the very fact that it pisses people like us off when he gets pins over Dinero or Samoa Joe is probably a good reason to keep him. To me, he doesn't have "go away" heat yet; I want to see what they're going to do with him, and I want to see him lose. He's not a draw that would get my money yet, but I think that he could be, with time.

And then, you really do have to consider that he's simply built like a traditional pro wrestler. He doesn't look like a fan who works out; he's a big guy, and that has an appeal to Joe and Jane Schmo out there. Even for me, when I think I'm above all of that crap and can simply focus on a guy's skill and such, was a bit emotionally deflated when I met Rick Steiner a decade ago and was bigger than him. Jordan has that aura of "well, this guy actually could kick my ass," and that goes a long way for a live audience.

 

[Frozentrash75]

I think that its a little to early for people to say that they hate Orlando Jordan in TNA already i mean his ring work has been solid so i don't think that you can knock them for that. He hasn't really done enough promo's yet for me to criticize it or to say that he sucks i think we need to give it a couple of more months and see a little bit bigger sample of his work before we can make a good assessment of his talent.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

ab·so·lute·ly   [ab-suh-loot-lee, ab-suh-loot-]
–adverb
1. without exception; completely; wholly; entirely:

ter·ri·ble   [ter-uh-buhl]
–adjective
1. distressing; severe:
2. extremely bad; horrible:
3. exciting terror, awe, or great fear; dreadful; awful.

No, I don't think Orlando Jordan is "absolutely terrible", because in order for him to be absolutely terrible, he would have to be extremely bad without exception, and the bottom line is that there is exception to him. He is not extremely bad in the ring in terms of his actual wrestling abilities, nor is his physique extremely bad, or is his character or ability to talk on a mic extremely bad. Sure, none are extremely good, either, but that doesn't make the opposing extreme any truer.

Jordan is simply a walk-on, IMO. He's not extraordinarily good or bad. He just is. Some of you may argue that him not having that "it" factor is grounds enough for his dismissal, and I won't argue with you (here) about that, but in addressing the OP, sorry, but you're wrong.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

I honestly don't know where this Orlando Jordan hatred comes from. Throw Orlando Jordan in with any other average worker, and what is the difference between him and them?

Seriously.

The guy is an average worker, is decent in the ring but nothing spectacular, he's okay on the mic, but nothing spectacular.

He is not by any means "terrible", but is just average in everything he does, except his private life.

So I can't help but speculate, is that what this is all about for some wrestling fans?

 

[It's Damn Real!]

I honestly don't know where this Orlando Jordan hatred comes from. Throw Orlando Jordan in with any other average worker, and what is the difference between him and them?

Seriously.

The guy is an average worker, is decent in the ring but nothing spectacular, he's okay on the mic, but nothing spectacular.

He is not by any means "terrible", but is just average in everything he does, except his private life.

So I can't help but speculate, is that what this is all about for some wrestling fans?

I don't think it's his open sexuality that's the issue, to be honest, Sid. I think it's just the fact that he's Hogan's boy. Nothing more.

Had Jordan had no ties whatsoever to Hogan and come in, he might have been heralded if he really helped push the envelope to get TNA more controversial exposure, but because he's Hogan's boy, he's written off before he has a chance to – just like every other guy who's come into the company with Hogan was written off, including Mr. Anderson, who half those same haters now love.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

I don't think it's his open sexuality that's the issue, to be honest, Sid. I think it's just the fact that he's Hogan's boy. Nothing more.

Had Jordan had no ties whatsoever to Hogan and come in, he might have been heralded if he really helped push the envelope to get TNA more controversial exposure, but because he's Hogan's boy, he's written off before he has a chance to – just like every other guy who's come into the company with Hogan was written off, including Mr. Anderson, who half those same haters now love.

He's "Hogan's boy"? Since when? I thought that was Ed Leslie, or Jimmy Hart, or Eric Bischoff, or The Nasty Boys.

Is there anyone who isn't "Hogan's boy" these days?

I don't give a shit if he knows Hogan or not. If they can contribute in some way to drawing interest in the product, then it matters not to me. And that is why I don't have a problem with Jimmy Hart being on TV. He CAN contribute.

The Nasty Boys can contribute, by bringing in older fans that grew up seeing the Nasty Boys on TV. They are interesting punk characters. I am very disappointed with Knobbs' in-ring ability, but Sags' work is passable for his age.

As far as Orlando Jordan, as stated, he is average in everything he does, but he has that element of his sexuality, which if brought to life on television, can really push the envelope and make things interesting.

This Hogan's Boy crap is really overblown in a lot of cases. If the person can contribute to making TNA interesting, bringing back older viewers, and luring WWE viewers that are starved for a more adult product away from the WWE, then it matters not to me.

And yes, I do think his sexuality is the issue, because more people are aware of that then they are of Jordan supposedly being "Hogan's boy". Like I said, this "Hogan's boy" nonsense is just ridiculous.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

He's "Hogan's boy"? Since when? I thought that was Ed Leslie, or Jimmy Hart, or Eric Bischoff, or The Nasty Boys.

Is there anyone who isn't "Hogan's boy" these days?

I don't give a shit if he knows Hogan or not. If they can contribute in some way to drawing interest in the product, then it matters not to me. And that is why I don't have a problem with Jimmy Hart being on TV. He CAN contribute.

The Nasty Boys can contribute, by bringing in older fans that grew up seeing the Nasty Boys on TV. They are interesting punk characters. I am very disappointed with Knobbs' in-ring ability, but Sags' work is passable for his age.

As far as Orlando Jordan, as stated, he is average in everything he does, but he has that element of his sexuality, which if brought to life on television, can really push the envelope and make things interesting.

This Hogan's Boy crap is really overblown in a lot of cases. If the person can contribute to making TNA interesting, bringing back older viewers, and luring WWE viewers that are starved for a more adult product away from the WWE, then it matters not to me.

And yes, I do think his sexuality is the issue, because more people are aware of that then they are of Jordan supposedly being "Hogan's boy". Like I said, this "Hogan's boy" nonsense is just ridiculous.

You're preaching to the choir, Sid, honestly. I actually have no problem at all with a lot of the guys Hogan's brought in, and that includes the Nasty Boys who IMO cut the promo of the year (thus far) with 3D a few weeks prior to their match at Against All Odds.

But I really do think that's the Hogan connection is where all the Jordan hate primarily stems from. Yes, maybe his sexuality plays a part as well, but I think that Jordan is simply being looked at by most of the (WWE) marks as "another Hogan cronie", as opposed to just a guy they hired who just isn't that good, or wasn't booked to maximize his potential.

I don't particularly mind Jordan, to be honest. I don't hate him or love him, but that "Simply the Greatest" line he uses has a lot of potential to make him a top heel in a promotion IMO, and he's got the body/style of a pro-wrestler through and through.

 

[wazaveli]

He isn't bad not is he terribly good, but thats been said enough in this thread.

Is the jury still out on his Theme Music though. I hate it, it sounds like really bad porn movie music, which considering his storyline options might not be so far off actually. Lol

But him beating Joe, as everyone said in the other Thread. WTF!

 

[It's Damn Real!]

He isn't bad not is he terribly good, but thats been said enough in this thread.

Is the jury still out on his Theme Music though. I hate it, it sounds like really bad porn movie music, which considering his storyline options might not be so far off actually. Lol

But him beating Joe, as everyone said in the other Thread. WTF!

Him beating Joe was fine in my book as it simply fed into the story line developing with Joe & Bischoff over Joe's inability to win in the clutch. Having him lose to a guy we all believe he might have actually had a chance to lose to would diminish from the power of believing he's really on a skid, IMO, so who better than a "Hogan cronie" to put over on him to really accentuate the frustration?

Either way, I still think he catches too bad a wrap around these parts for reasons other than his actual abilities in and out of the ring.