Like Lesnar, the Wyatts, Ambrose, Reigns, Zayn, and Owens? The same group of guys who weren't even around the last time you watched the product for a sustained period?
I'm confused and a little aroused (that is to say that my interest is aroused).
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I'm confused and a little aroused (that is to say that my interest is aroused).
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Nah, those are all new, for the most part (though I don't care for the Wyatt's except for Bray, who is awesome).
What I mean is that it felt like the same parade of WWE guys that I'd have seen if I had turned on a Rumble four, five, six years ago. Kane, Mark Henry, Miz(erable), Jericho, Goldust, Ryback, Kofi Kingston, Big Show, Swagger, Del Rio, Sheamus, Triple H, etc. I’m sure there are a few more I’m not counting.
That's 12 there who are just retreads to me, of guys who I never really found entertaining to begin with. That is, guys who I stopped watching over. Not because it's directly their fault, but because they weren't helping matters either.
This year didn’t seem to have many “surprises” outside of Styles, but what surprises I’ve seen in recent years aren’t actually surprising. Just a cavalcade of WWE Legends who are happy to accept a pay check and a chuckle pop. I guess Jim Duggan and Bob Backlund are too old to do it anymore?
I totally get it, I'm unqualified to really levy an objective opinion. But I was legitimately curious again, and legitimately let down... again. Maybe I'm not giving it enough time, which is usually the return fire I willingly accept, but I have such a hard time even getting through two hours of what is supposed to be a premiere PPV event. How am I supposed to sit through three hours of RAW, and why should I expect to see anything different?
Owens is amazing, for the record. I remember watching him with ROH years ago and thinking "what's the big deal?", but WWE (or ROH, or whoever is responsible) has done a tremendous job with him. That guy is money.
What I mean is that it felt like the same parade of WWE guys that I'd have seen if I had turned on a Rumble four, five, six years ago. Kane, Mark Henry, Miz(erable), Jericho, Goldust, Ryback, Kofi Kingston, Big Show, Swagger, Del Rio, Sheamus, Triple H, etc. I’m sure there are a few more I’m not counting.
That's 12 there who are just retreads to me, of guys who I never really found entertaining to begin with. That is, guys who I stopped watching over. Not because it's directly their fault, but because they weren't helping matters either.
This year didn’t seem to have many “surprises” outside of Styles, but what surprises I’ve seen in recent years aren’t actually surprising. Just a cavalcade of WWE Legends who are happy to accept a pay check and a chuckle pop. I guess Jim Duggan and Bob Backlund are too old to do it anymore?
I totally get it, I'm unqualified to really levy an objective opinion. But I was legitimately curious again, and legitimately let down... again. Maybe I'm not giving it enough time, which is usually the return fire I willingly accept, but I have such a hard time even getting through two hours of what is supposed to be a premiere PPV event. How am I supposed to sit through three hours of RAW, and why should I expect to see anything different?
Owens is amazing, for the record. I remember watching him with ROH years ago and thinking "what's the big deal?", but WWE (or ROH, or whoever is responsible) has done a tremendous job with him. That guy is money.
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In TNA news, front page says Wolves are re-signing guaranteed deals to stick with TNA. Good news for TNA. I can only imagine the shitty storyline that would have come had they chosen to walk. Probably would have went something like... confront Beer Money, say you respect them. They say they respect you. Lots of respect. There's a Booker T joke in there somewhere. Then they have a match a week later, drop the belts to BM, and they're off television. Beer Money then go on to feud with some random throw-together team and four months from now we're reading about how Storm and Roode feel like TNA's division is weak.
That about right?
That about right?
I just think it's worth noting that aside from Trips and maybe Kofi's group, WWE's not concerned with pushing any of those guys. They're almost all warm bodies and enhancement talent.
Right now, the guys who matter are mostly newer faces.
Still, you know you're unqualified to give an objective opinion which is fair. Same reason is why I don't really comment on TNA any more. Haven't watched any since fall of '14.
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Yeah, totally fair. My DVR is full up tonight, and the Rangers are playing the Sabres too. Maybe I'll DL RAW and watch it later this week, just to see if there's something much better going on that I wasn't exposed to during the Rumble?
There's only so much of that group I can take before I'm bored to tears and kill the feed. That's been the biggest hinderance for me for a while. Well, that and the snarky commentary that always manages to ruffle my feathers. Like JBL shouting "and the right side won again!" after Sting lost to Triple H at last years' Wrestlemania. My blood was boiling.
There's only so much of that group I can take before I'm bored to tears and kill the feed. That's been the biggest hinderance for me for a while. Well, that and the snarky commentary that always manages to ruffle my feathers. Like JBL shouting "and the right side won again!" after Sting lost to Triple H at last years' Wrestlemania. My blood was boiling.
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If Zayn, Owens and AJ are all going to be mainstays, I'd give it a whirl.
This was the best the WWE has looked since maybe Wrestlemania XXX.
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Does it bug anybody else that Matt and Reby trot out Maxel on TV every week? I see no reason at all that they need to even bring their kid on the road with them but at least leave the baby off tv.
It couldn't possibly be worse than Jeff Jarrett filming vignettes with Kurt Angle's kids.
I hear there's a lab in Switzerland where they're working on compressing awful things into denser packages (it's where Jenna Morasca was created), but I believe that was about as horrible as stories can get under natural conditions.
I hear there's a lab in Switzerland where they're working on compressing awful things into denser packages (it's where Jenna Morasca was created), but I believe that was about as horrible as stories can get under natural conditions.
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Touche. But at least he wasn't bringing the kids in the ring and they weren't babies. Matt and Reby are bringing a 6 month old baby in the ring every week for no reason.
That sounds like a scary place to be.
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It's a bit weird in context of kayfabe but it's no different than when people have to bring their kids to work because there's no babysitter.
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K, so I watched the Miz/AJ Styles segment on RAW and his match against Perfect's kid on Smackdown and I had to quit before the Smackdown match ended. It's exactly as I feared/suspected would happen. "If it didn't happen in WWE, it didn't happen" is the story they are telling. Really? You bring in the biggest free agent draw in the world, and immediately cut him down and tell your audience he doesn't matter?
You're selling a car but talking about how it's inferior to other models that are clearly less valuable? Seriously?
You're selling a car but talking about how it's inferior to other models that are clearly less valuable? Seriously?
Eh, you have to expect this kind of attitude from the E; they market themselves as being the Top Professional Wrestling Organization, so they naturally don't give much creed to titles held with other promotions. The UFC did the same thing with Eddie Alverez coming over from Bellator; he had absolutely torn up the promotion, but the UFC did nothing to hype that beyond "and here's a guy some of you may have heard about".
The story they're telling- and yes, obviously this will piss you off- is that there's this guy, AJ Styles, and yeah, he's been around the world, but now he's come to where the real big boys play, and let's see if he can hang.
That being said, I don't think the WWE has any desire to get solidly behind AJ Styles. He'll have some great matches, probably be an Intercontinental or US Champion somewhere along the line, and give people heart palpitations when they put him against Reigns or Cena for the big belt on an off-PPV, but I don't see them constructing any kind of long-term main event program for him. The WWE prefers their main event talent to be their babies from the ground up.
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Yes, they market themselves as the top wrestling org because they are. And they'll never turn down an opportunity to remind you. Humility is not a virtue in their lexicon.
I'm just wholly turned off by this exclusivity attitude they've had forever. I hate the "WWE guy" lie they perpetuate. We're living in the era of the self-made wrestler, and they think that by refusing to believe facts, they stop being facts.
It's like listening to people who don't beleive in evolution.
I'm just wholly turned off by this exclusivity attitude they've had forever. I hate the "WWE guy" lie they perpetuate. We're living in the era of the self-made wrestler, and they think that by refusing to believe facts, they stop being facts.
It's like listening to people who don't beleive in evolution.
I can't blame you one bit for thinking that, and I can't blame the WWE one bit for doing it; the WWE clearly believes that direct competition is not in their interests. I disagree, because maybe having competition means the WWE wouldn't be trying to unsuccessfully ram Roman Reigns down people's throats for two years now, but it is what it is.
I guess I can't sell you on Styles knocking the caps clean off Miz' mouth on Smackdown then.
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Oh, I know why they do it. I just don't agree with it. Because they have no need to do this. They reason they can get away with it is because they're a legacy brand. Just look how bad they've been for years with fans booing the guys they are trying to make, and "hijacking shows", etc. I mean, I'm experiencing all of this vicariously, but what other company — TNA, ROH, whomever — could withstand that kind of backlash? I'd argue none. The only reason WWE gets away with it is because they're the only titan left, so they act with impunity, even when they're dead fucking wrong.
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I have no desire, whatsoever, to see anyone wrestle or feud with the Miz. No one. Not Sting, not Bret Hart, not AJ Styles, not the fucking Undertaker. No one.
He's not feuding with him. Just beating the shit out of him.
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OK, then let me rephrase — I have no desire, whatsoever, to see the Miz. In any capacity.
He's X-Pac heat to me. Just fucking go away, heat. Piss break television.
He's X-Pac heat to me. Just fucking go away, heat. Piss break television.
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They have mentioned that AJ was IWGP champion when he debuted and added in that it was title held by Brock Lesnar, a comment that probably has more credibility to it than any number of NWA, TNA or ROH titles.
I would be interested to know what would you think WWE should do with regards to AJ's past?
I would be interested to know what would you think WWE should do with regards to AJ's past?
I think IDR's more mad with them pointing out he's short at every turn which is in fact totally unnecessary.Барбоса;5407171 said:
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