If You Were In Charge Of TNA, Who Would You Cut?

Doug Williams, Rob Terry, and Magnus have had time to stand out, and haven't done it...I would not have a problem cutting them.

Agreed on Terry, and Magnus isnt a finished product, but Williams? Really? The man is one the most phenomenal technical wrestlers in the business today, and cuts a hell of a promo as well. He's made Kaz, who isn't very good, look like gold in their 3 previous matches I can remember.

I took a look at their roster, and these names jumped out at me.

1. Hernandez-I like the guy for his decent in-ring skills, but if you're not going to use him, why is he there?

2. Robbie E- Its tough to cut the X-Divison champ, but the kid simply cannot wrestle well enough to even be on TV, let alone a champion. It's not like he has the size that they could push him as a monster, so if you're going to use a wwrestler based on a TV show, at least use a good one.

3. Kiyoshi- They've recently dumped more talented competitors like Sabu because they have nothing for them creatively, yet they keep him around despite not using him at all? He should go.

4. Rob Terry- For goodness sake, this man is the worst wrestler Ive ever seen. He's the type of guy that needs a push like Goldberg as unbeatble for him to worth anything, and done so through squash matches. It hasn't happened, so whys he still here? Id get rid of him.

5. Daffney- She's got an average gimmick but she cant wrestle worth a damn unless it's taking big bumps, and hasn't been used fo awhile, and there's no room in the KO division for her with the addition of Mickie and the re-signing of Tara.

6.Shark Boy- He couldn't wrestle when they were using him, and he's still employed now that they're not? WHY?

7. Mick Foley- I know he's a legend and all, but he can't wrestle any longer, and his LMS match with Flair would have been a proper send-off. The EV2 faction is pretty much no more, so he's got no real shelf life left as a mouthpiece either. He's simply not worth the large paycheck he likely commands. I hate saying they should cut a surefire Hall of Famer, but he holds little value any longer.
 
Well I think I will be a little controversial now. Despite the obvious few which people continually mention (Rob Terry, Kyoshi, Orlando Jordon, EV2) I will start my list with:

1. RVD - For me despite the fanfare that surrounds this guy I have yet to enjoy any match he has put on in TNA. To be honest he hasn't entertained me since ECW. For me his ring style is nothing spectacular, he is appalling on the mike and I do not think he has the star power he thinks he does. The only thing I like about this guy is that he is pro legalisation of weed. Drop him

2. Hogan - Brings nothing to TNA apart from a slow entrance, red and yellow confetti and shit decision making. He should leave so he has more time for incestuous thoughts for Brooke.

3. Shannon Moore - This guy has 3 moves and they all suck. He can't talk on the mic and he only has a job due to Hardy. Drop him and bring in the Hurricance.

4. Tommy Dreamer - Slow, boring, horrendous outfit. Only interesting when he injures himself. (Which is pretty much every match now)

Finally to the guy who said that Douglas Williams can't wrestle. REALLY? This guy has as many suplexes and submissions as the best mat wrestlers, so you are simply wrong!
 
Flair was brought in to build talent. It's about quality with Flair, and more about quantity with Hogan. Hogan came in as the "new leader" of TNA. I'm not sure how much power he actually has, but trust me, he has more than Flair. Same with Bischoff.

Flair has done his job. He's not on the creative team. He's not booking. He's turned AJ Styles from a great in-ring performer with no character into a guy who is still as good in the ring, but now has a good character. Flair can't help that TNA's creative team is borderline retarted. Flair doesn't need to draw money. He was brought in to be a manager for a stable of heels. Hogan was brough in to draw money. I think you're way, way off on this one.

The job of any guy in a wrestling company is to draw in money and ratings. Sure Hogan was THE guy who was supposed to help the creative and bring in ratings but are you saying that Ric does not have to bring in ratings? And yes I can see Flair's work but you got to accept that it has not brought in ratings

For one thing, Flair calling it "Fourtune" is Flair basing the name around a "group." It's a team mentality, so I'm not sure what the hell you're talking about here.

And if Rayne isn't saying Hogan's stable is egotistical, I am. Because it is. Hogan is the biggest Hogan fan on the planet. He still believes he's the biggest draw on this planet, and he's not. I'm not a Hogan-hater, but he sold himself to TNA as something he's not. Yes, even at his age, he's still somewhat of a draw..with the WWE machine behind him. He doesn't have that in TNA, and it shows.

I can't believe you're actually attempting to compare Flair's role in the company with Hogan's.

I had a problem with the name. If you have Hulk Hogan in your stable are you going to name it Jeff's army or something. I guess not because Hulk is the biggest star in that stable whether you like it or not.

In that case why not name Flair's stable as TNA Originals or something? Its been done because everyone knows that Ric's stable The Four Horsemen is one of the best stables of all time and naming it after the biggest star in the group is the sensible option. You are taking the same criteria to say that one guy is right while the other is wrong. How is that possible?

The point that you are making is that Fourtune is a name which kinda showcases the entire team in equal light. But Immortal is a name which focuses the spotlight on Hogan. Well if the stable had been named after NWO or something, a famous group of which Hogan was a part of, I am sure smarks would have bitched too. But thats the same thing Flair has done. He has named his stable after his former famous stable.

I agree about Hogan, but not Flair. Flair has done well in building Fourtune. It's not his fault TNA's creative team went nuts and made them part of Immortal. It was a garbage creative move, and if you don't think so, you're nuts.

Of course its a bad move. A ten man stable is always a bad move. I never implied anything else. There are only four titles to compete for and at a time at the most five guys can hold it so what will the rest do?
 
I would every member of EV 2 except RVD and Dreamer. I would use Dreamer as an agent or even as a creative member and limit his ring time. I wouldn't keep Orlando Jordan or Eric Young. Its more insulting to Eric Young to give him a contract with less money. It would be better to let him leave and find a better place to work for more money.

Team 3D should be let go. Either use them as agents in the back or let them go completely. They have accomplished everything in TNA and no one wants to see them fight each other.

Rob Terry, Hernandez, Kiyoshi, and Shark Boy are useless at this point. They are never used on television or even at live events. Let them go already. Hernandez and Terry bring nothing to the table at this point. Rob Terry never did.

If TNA isn't going to use the Knockouts or the tag titles then cut them. I like Hamada, Wilde, Sarita, and love Daffney, but if they aren't being used then I would cut them. Leave Velvet as eye candy with Angelina, Tara, Katie Lee, and Mickie James as the front runners. I would keep Daffney and Sarita and cut Hamada and Wilde along with the useless Knockouts tag titles.

I would also cut Ink Inc. If not both members then at least cut Jesse Neal. I would get rid of Robbie E and Cookie and make the X Division worth a damn.

Magnus, Williams, Kaz, Red, Jay Lethal, and Desmond Wolfe would make the division bright again. This has nothing to do with the thread, but I would throw the toy TV title in the Atlantic Ocean and never look back.
 
I would cut...

Eric Young- His head trauma angle thing where he is now a bit doolally, is pointless. TNA should have made him bang his head a BFG and made him be better again, and he could fued with robbie or something, but carrying on with the head thing is really annoying

Orlando Jordan- i think he is not the most entertaing and the guy cant sell moves for me

Shark Boy- He is not being used so and the charachter is stupid. i would cut him.

Kyoshi- Also not being used, he also should be cut unless he becomes X Division champion
 
Wow, most of the "fans" here are pathetic. I seen Kevin Nash mentioned.. Why should they let him go? he's retired! believe it are not, he is. At least watch the show or read the internet if your going to contribute. Shark boy name was mentioned too.. He works as a referee for TNA and also as a road agent, it's not like he's setting at home getting paid for nothing. Robbie E; while i do agree with most of you that robbie e was handed the title way to soon, i don't agree with about everyone here to let him go, Even though i hate him to the very bone, He is talented. Eric Young? you do know that he is no longer employed my tna don't you? at least watch the show. God you people are truly one of a kind. I Bet half of you that replied don't even watch tna or don't watch tna enough to even be responding to this thread.

I Read these forums for so long and almost everyone here thinks they know what their talking about because they been watching wrestling since the 80's.

It's sad to see that everyone here rates a wrestler on how much ratings a single (one) wrestler brings in. Everything is built around the bigger picture, not just one wrestler. It's sad to see that everyone here would just kick the ones to the curb just because they got older, imho, the things that they put their bodies through to entertain YOU, They earned their right to stay in the business for as long as they wish.

Trying to build the best wrestling company today is a lot making Soup; It takes more then one ingredient to make it taste good. Some of you think that a wrestling company is built around one ingredient.


1) Stevie; fitness trainer

2) Rhino

3) Raven

4) Tommy

The ones i listed above he has a lot to offer outside the ring for upcoming younger talent, but i don't think these guys has anything to offer in the new TNA as in-ring talent.
 
Eric Young actually re-signed with TNA.

1. Team 3D - they should have walked after the MCMG match. It was the best match to go out on especially considering that they aren't great workers anymore. Nobody seems to care that they're feuding.

2. EV2.0 - I enjoyed them at the start for nostalgia reasons but they're taking up spots now. I don't include Rob Van Dam in this group.

3. Orlando Jordan - the partnership with Young was starting to grow on me but I don't see much potential.

4. Robbie E? - he might just need repackaged...he hasn't been here long but he annoys the hell out of me.

5. Gunner and Murphy

I'd be tempted to keep Kiyoshi if him and Okada are a tag-team.
 
Team 3d, and EV2, and sadly Mick Foley. All have ran there course and are not fun to watch anymore. Why TNA just resigned Kevin Nash (if its true) i dont know why. Most of the old talent just needs to go. With that said i will start my list now!

Hulk Hogan- I was a Hulkamanic from the beginning and even thru his last runs with WWE and i was a teenager, now seeing him do the same tired ass act is just sad. Please retire

Kiyoshi- sounds like a character from Mario Bros and when is the last time u saw him on tv, nuff said

Jesse Neal and Shannon Moore- dont have the look, the mic skills and who cares from them as a tag team. Plus when it comes to Moore, TNA was behind him and had him going with n a fued with AJ Styles and then jumped ship at the last minute to go to WWE, no loyalty

Rob Terry-whoeva thought he would be the next Goldberg should be fired, wait that was probably Vince Russo.

VINCE RUSSO-HOW LONG CAN THIS MAN STAY EMPLOYED
 
I disagree with all of you. LOL! I respect the hell out of Rick Flair after he took it to Mick Foley a couple weeks ago. He's almost old enough to collect social security and he still kicks ass! His Mic work has me cringing sometimes though - almost seems like the promos of a alzheimer's patient. But he has been keeping it "tight" for the past couple of weeks. Hulk Hogan draws great heal heat - 1000x better then his baby face run in the 80's IMO. I like Cookie's Mic work - although I think Rob could use some image tweaking. His physical condition is awesome (no homo). I think there are too many fractions though - but getting rid of EVO2 is like getting rid of 50% of Impact. I think Stevie Richards was always under utilized. Raven needs more MIC time, Rhino is awesome, Tommy Dreamer is holding everything together. I think if Paul E came on board, the storyline would have been WAY better. I would really like to see Kane come to TNA and feud with Abyss. I think if Stone Cold came to TNA, it would even be more awesome. AJ Styles seems like a whinny punk to me - i actually think its time for him to move on. They also need to give the Pope some gold - the crowd loves him!
 
If I was in charge of TNA, the first guy I would cut is Kyoshi for one simple reason. I have absolutely no idea who the guy even is. I watch iMPACT semi-regularly, especially for a good portion of 2010, and I don't think I have ever seen this guy wrestle in the ring. Ever. To be honest, I don't think I would even know he existed if it weren't for these forums. Needless to say, this wouldn't be much of a loss.

I'd cut Orlando Jordan as well. Average at the absolute best. I don't care about whether or not he is bisexual in real life, none of my business, but I'm not a fan of this being built into storylines, especially making him a creepy heel because of it.

I'd drop Robbie E as well, even though he is the current X-Division champion. Terrible in the ring, even worse gimmick, and a true channel changer.

Most of the remnants of EV2.0 would not be cut, but they would be reduced to backstage roles only. They would not wrestle anymore, or at least extremely occasionally, but they would be retained as mentors/agents, etc.,

Over and above this, I wouldn't cut many more people if anyone. But I would learn how to use the talent I have properly, rather than using a bunch of guys in a haphazard, clusterf**k of a fashion.
 
The one person I would fire for sure is whoever the hell decided to have RVD and KAZ on Reaction 11.11 practicing for their match in the background when Bubba Ray grabbed the interviewer.If you have DVR go back and watch when they try to interveiw Bubba about turning on D-Von. I have been a TNA faithful since day one but this is a complete lack of production and poor plannnig.
 
1. Robbie E - Channel Changer as hatehabsforever put it is exactly what he is for me.

2. Team 3D - I agree with those who said that they should have retired at Turning Piont.

3. Orlando Jordan - I don't like the guy's gimmick, and yeah you can give him a new character, but he is pushing 40. And unlike the other TNA wrestlers in their 40s, or their abouts, he is not a well known wrestler.

4. Rob Terry - An awful wrestler.

5. Kiyoshi - There is no piont of having him in TNA if they are not going to use him.

6. EV2.0(without RVD) - Maybe these guys might be of use backstage, but I am sick of seeing them on TV, especially Tommy Dreamer.

7. Mike Tenay and Taz - New color commentators are needed maybe JB and Foley could be a good announce team.

8. Hamada - Although I respect the fact she is a great womens wrestler. I only care about women wrestlers who I think are attractive.

9. Abyss = Annoying.
 
1. Kazarian - Now I realize he's in Fourtune and yada-yada-yada, but unlike majority of the people in Fourtune, he has the charisma of a dead dog. He was a pretty good wrestler when he was saddled with "The Future" Frankie Kazarian Gimmick, Other Than that its stale for me.

2. Stevie Richards - Im a huge ECW mark, but he just lost his spark. He was entertaining with Meanie and Nova, but now he's a shell of a wrestler, have him be an agent like Al Snow and D-Lo Brown.

3. Shark Boy/ Kiyoshi - I know there aren't anything alike, but they both haven't been on in months, almost a gd yr or 2 and they are just taking up space. Although I believe SB is a trainer.

TBH, I like Robbie E, Cookie, Rob Terry, Orlando Jordan, and Ink Inc.
Robbie E and Cookie - Have the annoying heel thing going for them and its awesome bro.
Rob Terry - You repackage him and IMO he can be better than Batista.
Orlando Jordan - Chris Kanyon wanted to do a persona like this but he passed away (RIP) and I think Jordan nails it perfect.
Ink Inc. - While i think Shannon is the glue I think Jessie could potentially be another Rhyno.
 
Either use Shark Boy, or future endevor him. Keep the Shark Boy gimmick on stuff like Spin Cycle but maybe repackage him as a new wrestler with a different gimmick.

EV2.0: Other work for them backstage.

Hogan/Bishoff: just like in WCW they are airtime hogs that could be used to have good matches or get young guys over. This is 2010, Hogan has not been relevant since 1998.

Ric Flair: Keep him around short term to get Fortune over since it's already started but dont keep him around and dont put him in the ring (at least on TV).

Rob Terry: the only match he can deliver is a squash match, he's useless.
 
Team 3D- It's time for them to retire. It really is. I became so sick and tired of hearing both of them talk about how great they are, and how Team 3D is the be all end all, as far as tag team wrestling goes. I have no problem with them being backstage road agents, because they do have some good knowledge of the wrestling business, but I do not want to see them on TV anymore. They should've retired years ago, and they're taking up valuable TV time that can be used for some of TNA's other wrestlers who need as chance to showcase their skills.

Orlando Jordan- You can only go so far with his gimmick. Jordan was shit in WWE and he's still shit in TNA. His matches aren't worth watching at all, and his mic work isn't impressive. Jordan is just a waste of space on the roster, and he really needs to go.

Cookie- Besides being a good Snooki look-a-like, Cookie really doesn't bring anything to the table. Yeah, she's hot, but she hasn't show us anything else. Nick made a good point about Robbie. I don't think he's terrible. He just needs a better gimmick.

Tommy Dreamer- I have developed a good amount of hatred for Tommy Dreamer over the past couple of months. I couldn't stand having to listen to him whine about his "glory" days. I wish RVD would've been the lead man for EV2.0, because having to listen to Dreamer cry about the same stuff week after week drove me nuts. Dreamer was never great or good inside the ring. If you ask me, he was pretty mediocre.

Rob Terry- He's awful. Just plain awful. Terry has a great look, but he can't go inside the ring. TNA tried to push him, but it just didn't work out. He's just another muscle guy who can be easily replaced.

Hernandez- He's pretty athletic for a big man, but Hernandez has zero personality and charisma. It's cool to see a man of his size dive over the top rope, but his matches usually don't stand out at all.
 
Instead of listing everybody how about this. Let's sum it up. It's pretty basic.

Cut every single person that you do not, will not, have not used creatively in the past three months, or plan on using in the future, and is not payed on appearance. Cut every wrestler who gets paid to sit at home. We don't know if Terry, Kiyoshi and so on are paid to watch the show without a ticket, or by working a show. If it's the latter, then fine, you have a reason to keep them under contract - they're not costing you money.
 
3. Orlando Jordan - I don't like the guy's gimmick, and yeah you can give him a new character, but he is pushing 40. And unlike the other TNA wrestlers in their 40s, or their abouts, he is not a well known wrestler.

6. EV2.0(without RVD) - Maybe these guys might be of use backstage, but I am sick of seeing them on TV, especially Tommy Dreamer.

7. Mike Tenay and Taz - New color commentators are needed maybe JB and Foley could be a good announce team.

Team 3d, and EV2, and sadly Mick Foley. All have ran there course and are not fun to watch anymore. Why TNA just resigned Kevin Nash (if its true) i dont know why. Most of the old talent just needs to go. With that said i will start my list now!

Hulk Hogan- I was a Hulkamanic from the beginning and even thru his last runs with WWE and i was a teenager, now seeing him do the same tired ass act is just sad. Please retire

VINCE RUSSO-HOW LONG CAN THIS MAN STAY EMPLOYED

Hogan - I do wish Hogan would retire and stay retired from the business. I have to give TNA credit for signing him. They needed a huge name to draw people, and they got it with Hogan. He helps put butts in the seats in the Impact Zone, and draws tv ratings too. But personally I'm tired of both versions of Hulk Hogan. The red and yellow face that tells you to say your prayers and take your vitamins. And the black and white heel trying to re-live the nWo years.


Eric Bischoff - Can I nominate Bischoff to be taken off tv? If they want to keep him as a writer or whatever, fine. Just get him the hell off my tv screen. I'm tired of him taking up tv time that could be better used by people who can actually wrestle.


Orlando Jordan - I don't know if he's a victim of bad creative departments, or he's just a mid-carder who's lousy at selling a story line. Either way, he should just go. He makes rare appearances as it is. Just get it over with and hang up the wrestling boots forever.

Mike Tenay & Taz - I actually think Taz is better at color commentator than Foley. Foley needs to retire for good. It's like watching your favorite action hero get old. Keep Taz and replace Mike Tenay. I find Tenay to be too boring for play by play. Can't think of a good replacement at the moment. I suppose they could try for Joey Styles. But don't think he'd go for it.

Re-creating the glory years - The idea of trying to re-unite or create new versions of old factions (nWo, the four horsemen, ECW, etc...) needs to be put out to pasture. Hogan and Bischoff claimed they weren't trying to re-create the past. But TNA's actions show otherwise.
 
i WOULD OF CUT ROBBIE E HIS MIKE SKILLS ARE JUST AWFUL. I would also cut The Freak Rob Terry due to the fact they do not use him at all . :rolleyes:
 
Like I said in a post b4, I wouldn't cut either Terry or Robbie E, bro!
Repackage Terry, make him a squash specialist, they did the same for Batista and Lesnar when they came in. I've seen him do a spinning back kick, a great spinebuster (freakbuster), and im sure he can incorprate a few other moves, maybe become a ground specialist or incorprate a few powerbombs and powerslams.

Robbie E and the UBER HOT Cookie, they get so much heat, you have to keep them. Not only that, if i remember correctly Robbie E, is Rob Eckos, a very talented young guy that was in ECWA and a great wrestler. Cookie or Becky Bayless, is beautiful, and could easily put on a good match. Throw her in with the Taylor Wilde's and the Tara's, and it'd be a great feud
 
You are right there are so many possible feuds,but i said they should of get laid off because there characters could be more better than in other wrestling organizations because we all know that TNA IS GOING BANKRUPT. Rob Eckos aka Robbie E and Cookie have a strong chance they get used more than any other superstar in the locker room but what would happen if the feud they are in break off. The tna creative team wont be able to create another storyline due to the fact that they are mostly focused on Main eventers like they did on the past. We got to admit tna NEVER REALLY GAVED Mid Carders a push they need in the past or the X division.
 
I would future endeavour Eric Young, Hamada, Jesse Neal, Robbie E, Hernandez, and Raven (as well as anyone else in EV2 except Dreamer). They would get cut due to me not liking them whatsoever and the fact that they would not be needed. Not even as jobbers for their divisions. They would have nothing to offer TNA in my opinion, so if I was in charge of future endeavouring people then they would be the first to go. The roster is big enough to have someone fill that spot. In Robbie E's case, I would take the X Division Championship from him before he gets cut and give it back to Lethal.
 
...because we all know that TNA IS GOING BANKRUPT

No, we don't know that. We don't even have especially good reason to believe that.

TNA has a locked-in revenue stream from Spike TV for 2011 and most of 2012. With the exception of a few times they went head-to-head with WWE, they have never done much worse than a 1.0 rating.

That money is enough to keep the doors open. Even if PPVs and house shows are a complete financial disaster, and I believe they are. I repeat, even if PPV buyrates are less than 10,000 per show, and house show attendance averages less than 1000. Both of which I believe to be true. TNA will still stay open because Spike will keep paying for Impact for the next two years.

And, barring a collapse of Impact's ratings, I doubt that Spike TV will cancel Impact when the contract is up for renewal. Smackdown just got sold to Syfy for $30M a year when they have been pulling 2.0s, so I think that Impact is probably worth $10-$15M on the open market. If Spike TV is still the same Spike in a year and a half, TNA Impact is a pretty good fit. If Spike "Television For Men" is overhauled and rebranded as, I dunno, "VTV" with "smarter" programming anchored by CSI, Paramount movies and The Good Wife reruns, TNA still has a good chance of being picked up by a channel in the Fox or Time Warner or Disney families, or if there are any major independent channels left by then.

And, as every TNA fanboy is screaming, they get something for Impact overseas. How much, I'm skeptical, but it's something.

Janice Carter is rumored to be taking financial control, and playing a big role in decisions like cutting the pay of guys like Nash and Rhino, and if they don't like it, letting them walk. That doesn't mean that TNA is closing down--that means that TNA is less likely to close down. Likewise killing house shows in markets that don't figure to turn a profit. Even if monthly PPVs get the ax (and they have scheduled Genesis), that would be a positive for the balance sheet, not a sign of impending collapse.
 
OK, heres a basic list of who i would cut

Knockout's division- Velvet Sky and Sarita - what there purpose anyway. I hope tessmacher comes back to take velvets place in TBP after a whole storyline. Much potential there.

X Division- Honestly no one. Maybe Brian Kendrick but he still can play a role in EV2's departure.

Main Eventers- EV2 is boring me now, so TNA should write them all out, but only after 1 more big win. I want Beer Money to break up, but not be cut. Hmm :banghead:
 
I want Beer Money to break up, but not be cut. Hmm :banghead:[/QUOTE]

How in the bluest of blue hells would you want them break up:shrug:???? They are easily the best technical team in wrestling. Not only that they are in Fourtune, easily the biggest thing in both men's career's. They could easily get thrown into a feud with MCMG, Ink Inc., or any other face team. If TNA broke up Beer Money, I think I would stop watching TNA, they are SO GOOD TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!
 
I would cut EV2 out. With a couple exceptions. I would find something for Foley to do. I would X out the damn emotional promos and shit that the old guys seem to head into when they are trying to stay, or become relevant and appeal to fans.

TNA itself seems to think they can feel "real". To me, these old dudes cutting promos about each other, IE Flair/Foley, seems more fake than anything.

But I would find something for Foley to do. He can be good when he is motivated and has the right platform. He is a legend and for more than his ECW involvement. So Foley stays.

The other guy I would keep from EV2 is Rhino. I think he can still go. He should drop the connection to the EV2 guys and move on. Hopefully that is what TNA is doing with him right now.

But as for the rest of them, Dreamer, Richards, Raven etc... BYE BYE!

I would keep the Jersey Shore rip offs, simply for the heat they receive.

Also, Jordan has to go. I understand they are trying to create controversy with him. But it is just too lame, and also feels like a Goldust rip off. So lates to Jordan too.
 

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