I Want The Old ECW Back

[RatedRKO93]

Ok guys as well all know ECW right now isn't what it used to be... exciting. Now that they have taken out the ecw title must be defended under extreme rules. I watch old videos of the old ecw back when they used to use barbed wire and all that crazy shit. Now they have the odd extreme rules match's witch are good i won't deny it but they don't do anything insaine like they used to. I know that he can't really do the stuff they used to now because of the PG era. But if i could i would bring back the old ecw i would.

So my question for all of you guys is this: If you had to chance to bring back the old ECW and put it televison would you? and why?

 

[wbuqed]

I would bring the old ECW back in a heartbeat, not just for the extreme element, but also for the characters and the writing. Think about it, where could a guy who has never won a belt but always factored into A-list angles get as much airtime as Tommy Dreamer did? If they tried running a Tommy-like character on WWE, then Vince woulda ax-ed him in a heartbeat (hi Brian Kendrick). Also the characters weren't manipulated for a demographic, they were real, in comparison to the ridiculously baby-faced Cena. So hell yeah I'd bring back ECW in a heartbeat.

 

[Cheney]

I grew up watching ECW (WWE&WCW to), I remember having to sneak up at 1 am just to watch on a school night lol.

Nower days though, I wouldn't recommend having the old ECW come back. Wrestling catches enough heat with the PG WWE, because of parents promoting that wrestling is the cause of violence and such. Imagine those parents seeing half the matches or beatings the ECW alumni took. I bet you would see a petition to get it banned off TV asap.

But yes I think WWE should turn ECW into a PG-13 show, or at least change the name of it. Vince is not giving the product the justice it deserves, more like disgracing it with this pg crap and weak roster.


Bless tomy dreamer for sticking around.

 

[wbuqed]

yeah cheney im wondering what Tommy is thinkin sticking around for this long, I mean maybe bookings for him are not flourishing as well compared to other ECW alum but im sure its killing him to be involved in this fabrication of what he knew as ECW

 

[Cheney]

yeah cheney im wondering what Tommy is thinkin sticking around for this long, I mean maybe bookings for him are not flourishing as well compared to other ECW alum but im sure its killing him to be involved in this fabrication of what he knew as ECW

Yeah that I don't understand, I suppose it's because of his passion. I hope it's not a financial issue though :\.

I do think he should have just departed when Sandman did as well.

 

[Tenta]

Ok guys as well all know ECW right now isn't what it used to be... exciting.

If by exciting, you mean, chocked full of violence and sex, then sure, I'll agree with you. I'll even agree with you a tiny bit if you wanted to say that the workers aren't nearly as good. But that comes from ECW becoming Raw and Smackdown's filter system. This is where the people too good for FCW go before they're ready for the big time. I don't think it's really meant to be any more at the moment.

Now that they have taken out the ecw title must be defended under extreme rules.

It must? First of all, Vince doesn't have to a listen from a "must" from anyone. There's no "must" to it... It is what it is, and there's not too much you can do to change it. Second, I know about you, but I found the recent ECW Title matches fairly entertaining. I loved all of the matches between Swagger snd Christian, I liked Dreamer winning, and liked Chrisitan winning it once again. Look, the problem isn't the violence, it's the talent, because most of them just got off a stint in FCW. And for what they're their for, I understand, and am willing to let ECW slide

I watch old videos of the old ecw back when they used to use barbed wire and all that crazy shit. Now they have the odd extreme rules match's witch are good i won't deny it but they don't do anything insaine like they used to.

You've already alluded to it, man, later in the post, and I'd agree a tiny bit. However, again, the problem to me isn't the extreme rules, but the talent, or shall I say a lack thereof. The weapons were all just sugar coating. The real backbone of the old ECW was actual talent wrestling. RVD, Jerry Lynn, Steve Corino, Raven. These men were what kept ECW alive. Not the barbed wire and stunts.

I know that he can't really do the stuff they used to now because of the PG era. But if i could i would bring back the old ecw i would.

I understand. Trust me, though, after watching it for six months with the guys they have currently on there, you would hate it. Nothing looks more fake than an extreme rules match between Lashley and Test. Again, it's not the lack of weapons, it's the talent.

So my question for all of you guys is this: If you had to chance to bring back the old ECW and put it televison would you? and why?

That depends.... Am I allowed to bring back the entire staff of ECW, and all of the talent with me? If so, then sure, I'd bring back the "old ECW". If not, then I'm pretty much fine leaving ECW as it is. It's basically a next step for the guys in development. So why not give them an exposure to a smaller (TV) audience, and let them get prepared for the programming of Raw and Smackdown?

 

[SavageTaker]

From a business perspective, do I want the old ECW back? The answer would be no. The old ECW only catered to one type of fan, and those fans were/are a minority in wrestling. While today’s ECW caters to a multitude of wrestling fan types. Why do I bring this up? Because when one of the wrestling brands in the WWE cater to a multitude types of fans, they attract more people to watch their product/show. That is what I want after all if I was running the brand, to attract the most viewers possible. If I bring back the old ECW then I’m only catering to a select few who are in a minority therefore I’m not doing good business because I’m not attracting the most possible amount of viewers. So from a business stand-point, I wouldn’t want to bring back the old ECW whatsoever.

Now as a fan do I want the old ECW back? The answer would remain being no. I really disliked nearly everything that the original ECW stood for. For the most part, it was garbage wrestling that wasn’t entertaining to me and made me cringe just from watching it. I hated most of the stuff ECW did and I don’t think I know enough words from the English dictionary to properly describe why I hated it so much. I didn’t like it then and I wouldn’t like it now, so my answer on whether I want the old ECW back or not from a wrestling fan stand-point, the answer is no.

 

[The Doctor]

Absolutely not.
ECW right now is my favorite show, and it's actually very similar to the original ECW in that it's a place where young an misused superstars go when they aren't ready for the big time or can't get a break. Look at Matt Hardy, or Mark Henry. Do you think they'd be pushed well enough to win a major world title at that point in their careers? Look at Jack Swagger: A new guy who worked his way up and eventually won the belt.

As or the "Extreme" part of ECW... They still have that, just not as much. At ER, the ECW title was defended under Triple-Threat-Hardcore Rules. Next week, Dreamer and Christian are going to have a rematch or the title under extreme rules.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy hardcore matches, but only in moderation. And only when they're done right. ECW One Night Stand '05 was highly enjoyable to me, but you want to know what my favorite match was? Lance Storm vs. Chris Jericho. Yeah, a WRESTLING match. Hardcore matches are great fun to watch, but they shouldn't be the only thing, and people whining about "bringing back old ECW" seem to forget that the old ECW balanced out their hardcore matches with wrestling matches. If ECW was a glut of excess and violence, I'd probably hate it. I tried watching a hardcore-indy-promotion on DVD once. It was called 3PW, and was full of sex and violence. Worst two dollars I've ever spent. It sucked beyond belief, and that's what I think will happen to ECW if it tries to become loaded with sex and violence.

Also, people seem to forget the TV-PG =/= PG Rating in Movies! TV-PG is more comparable to a PG-13 rating in movies. TV and movies have different ratings systems. TV-Y is G, TV-Y7 is comparable to PG, TV-PG is comparable to PG-13, TV-14 is its own rating, and TV-MA is comparable to R.

Right now, ECW is perfect. It's a fantastic wrestling show with good storylines and feuds, good wrestlers, and it's fun to see talents work its way up. It's accomplishing a mission old ECW set out to do, which was to let smaller stars have a shot at hitting the big time.

 

[Drewzer]

Absolutely. I loved the old ECW and I dont particularly like extreme hardcore, there was some very good wrestling and great storylines and feuds, not to mention the atmosphere. The new ECW might play to bigger crowds but you wouldn't know it if you were blind or just had the volume on. ECW was about what was in the ring first and foremost not about selling merchandise like wwe. But its just like todays movies (a film getting the OK to be made is less about the script than it is about the related crap merchandise you can sell as well afterwards).And while I can understand people wanting to make money, then again its not like the old ECW was playing to empty arenas, it was usually packed. Its the same as any business really, the person with the deeper pockets will win eventually. Ive been watching wrestling for 30 years but the last few years I'm finding it hard to get into, seems wrestlers dont have any charisma. Theres a serious lack of character development and innovation in WWE. The only good stuff from WWE the last 20 years is what they blatantly copied from the old ECW. So yes Id be all in favour of bringing it back. After so many years, still many wont let it die and that has to say something, right?

 

[Nate DaMac]

I've always found the original ECW to be highly overrated. I like my hardcore wrestling, but I prefer actual wrestlers to do it, not guys who aren't in good enough shape to assemble the ring before the show. They had some actual talent there, but for every Chris Jericho, they had a Sandman or a Tommy Dreamer. I like the current product more than I ever cared for the original, and I wouldn't switch it for shit.

 

[ProWrestling'sBrain]

The old ECW? You do know there is a difference between ECW the promotion that is now dead and ECW the WWE brand, right? I mean yeah you want the old Paul Heyman ECW back. Good for you but it wont happen nor should it. The WWE is better off being their selves rather than trying to resurrect a former wrestling promotion. In almost a year it will mark 10 years since ECW got folded; 10 years ago! It's too late to attempt to resurrect or to bring back the old ECW feel with developmental superstars.

The old ECW was cool however it's dead and let's keep it that way. Unlike TNA, the WWE is about the present and the future, not the past. Bringing back the old ECW would feel out of place in the WWE Universe. The WWE is about using what they have now while establishing new stars today that will carry the promotion years from now, unlike TNA where they push wrestlers that were cool 10 years ago and they refuse to give the new blood the TNA championship or a main event push until the day Sting and/or Kurt Angle walks out. Maybe something like bringing back the old ECW would work in the TNA Nation but definitely not in the WWE Universe.

 

[NSL]

As a die-hard fan of the original ECW, I must respectfully...disagree.

I've made other threads about ECW, and how it made modern wrestling what it is, and that's exaclty why we don't need it now, nor should we want it. Vince, Bischoff, and now Jarrett, have taken enough of the stars and ideas from ECW, that it would just seem like a second rate knock-off of CZW if it returned now. The original ECW is good for nostalgia, and not much else. It was amazing for it's run, but it ran it's course, and has gone by the way side now.

They wouldn't be able to do anything new or shocking these days. They'd have nothing that they used to have. It's good for the occasional show (see Hardcore Homecoming, or Legends Of The Arena), but not for a full show.

 

[Mr. Steve]

there trying to make it 15 or pg 13i hope 15 because it will be more extream

You said something right?

Well, the ECW of old isn't coming back at all. ECWWE is now the official place you go if you're not hyped on Smackdown or RAW and you're in need of experience with the big crowds.

Well, unless Heyman comes up with some sort of legal loophole that allows him to get ECW back, I see it as unlikely that the ECW of old, filled with violence to your hearts content, will make any semblance of a return.

 

[Christian Battlez]

The old ECW was filled with passionate performers, some of the best mat wrestlers and luchadores you would ever see. It wasn't all about Hardcore. The hardcore spots were to showcase what the ECW performers will willing to do to their bodies for you the fans. The WWE performers now still share that same passion. So why is it different...because its not extreme. Its just less extreme not as bad as you think. ECW is an awesome show so why change it?

 

[Kane666]

My only problem with the new ECW is that the roster is so damn small.think of all the talent that has been let go that could have easily went to ECW.Umaga,Kendrick,Snitsky,D-Lo,Venis,hell they could've even have thrown Kennedy on.not to mention all the crusierweights that have nothing to do on raw and smackdown.bring back the cruiserweight title and have some exciting high flying matches.i don't mind that the hardcore factor is all but gone from ECW.but damn they could do so much more with the show.