How to bring back the Nation of Domination in this era of the WWE

[CM Steel]

For the new booty's. The Nation of Domination faction was a group of black wrestlers during the pre-attitude era & the attitude era with two different leaders, Farooq (Ron Simmons) and The Rock (Dwayne Johnson).

The Nation shouldn't be one of those wrestling stables that came and went. There were alot of groups in the WWF/E that had a reunion for a short period (DX,the Radicalz,nWo). The NOD had a good run as a stable when it came to having gold. The Rock as IC champion, and D'Lo Brown as European champion. Now I'm not saying let's bring back the original wrestlers. But what if the WWE made a NOD 2.0 or something?

Let's say if R-Truth brought back the Nation of Domination piece-by-piece? Like if Truth brought Ron Simmons back into the RAW fold as a manage and a mentor role for the new nation? I'm pretty sure that Ron Simmons (or Farooq) is fed up on just saying just one word per RAW a week. And if R-Truth recruited Kofi Kingston into the new nation as the pissed off mid-card guy? Kingston has never been a heel, and this is the perfect time for him to do so by joining the nation.

And if or when MVP is done doing his thing in Japan, the WWE should re-sign him and put him on RAW as a member of the new nation. And have him tag him his Miami homeboy Darren Young. It would be kinda pre-mature for the new nation to fued with Booker T over the same reason why the original nation fueded with Ahmed Johnson from back in the day. But this could work even in today's WWE era! And why not bring "Showtime" Percy Watson up to the main roster to aid Booker T in that fued if that were to happen.

The Nation of Domination was to good of a wrestling faction to be here today and gone tomorrow. Like some other wrestling fans feel, I think that the Nation of Domination group should be brought back to the WWE.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Why in the fuck does everybody want to bring back the Nation of Dominaton and we get these threads every single week? Of course people of your ilk would say The Rock got over because of it but I will argue that it wasn't until Rock aligned with Vince and feuded with Foley was when he was over. R-Truth is doing fine on his own, Kingston is a glorified mid-carder which there is nothing wrong with, and I couldn't care less about MVP. Let the NOD stay in the past and we'll all be better for it.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

Nation of Domination is never coming back. For satan's sake this is the PG era, why in the hell would WWE risk having problems with minority groups by bringing back the Nation of Domination? Might as well bring back Los Boricuas.

 

[CM Steel]

Nation of Domination is never coming back. For satan's sake this is the PG era, why in the hell would WWE risk having problems with minority groups by bringing back the Nation of Domination? Might as well bring back Los Boricuas.

So what your saying in a era where we have a black man as president of these united states of america, you would still consider a black wrestler as a "minority"? That's weak!

And as far as bringing back Los Boricuas. There are no Puerto Rican wrestlers currently in the WWE. So that's another weak little statement bruh.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

So what your saying in a era where we have a black man as president of these united states of america, you would still consider a black wrestler as a "minority"? That's weak!

And as far as bringing back Los Boricuas. There are no Puerto Rican wrestlers currently in the WWE. So that's another weak little statement bruh.

This is too good to pass up. Are the majority of WWE wrestlers black? No, so they are still a minority. I guess if our president were Asian, Yoshi Tatsu would be looking pretty good right now.

Isn't Primo, Puerto Rican, still in the WWE? Also, using bruh makes you seem dumber than you actually are.

If that was possible.

 

[CM Steel]

Oh lord forgive me if I forgot about Primo Colon. Where is he now adays anyway? But if the "majority" of people on these threads want the Nation of Domination to return, then that's a step in a positive direction isn't it?

Let's see, the Rock and Ron Simmons are still down with the WWE as well as Mark Henry. D'Lo Brown works for TNA/Impact wrestling as an agent. And it would be hard for the Godfather to fit in the WWE-PG. So why not bring in a new nation of domination?

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Oh lord forgive me if I forgot about Primo Colon. Where is he now adays anyway? But if the "majority" of people on these threads want the Nation of Domination to return, then that's a step in a positive direction isn't it?

Let's see, the Rock and Ron Simmons are still down with the WWE as well as Mark Henry. D'Lo Brown works for TNA/Impact wrestling as an agent. And it would be hard for the Godfather to fit in the WWE-PG. So why not bring in a new nation of domination?

You would be surprised what kind of unrealistic and stupid shit people have been clamoring for and it hasn't came close to happening.

If guys like Kofi can't improve their situation on their own, what makes you think he can do it in a stable?

DX sucked the second time around. NOD will too even though it wasn't that great in the first place.

 

[Constipated Badger Bottom]

So why not bring in a new nation of domination?

Because we've already seen the Nation of Domination, what would be the point in hiring writers when your just going to recycle the same storylines again and again, i'd rather see new and original idea's like the Nexus stable, and if we are insisting on useing stables to get people over then why not do an anti-bullying stable with this anti-bullying stance the WWE has taken recently or a stable of mid-card veterans (Henry, Regal, Chavo etc) who are sick and tired of ebing under appreicaited and start to take action to see them into the Main Event

Not the the greatest idea's in the wolrd but there 2 i've just come up with in the space of 5 minutes without going back to old stable/storylines and if I can do it then most other people especially a team of professional writers.

 

[Rayne]

But if the "majority" of people on these threads want the Nation of Domination to return, then that's a step in a positive direction isn't it?

Glad to see majority in quotes there. It's a nod to the fact that there are no actual numbers you're working with and you're talking out of your ass again, Mr. DDT Outside Of A Bar. (LJL was referring not to the appearance of NOD threads every week, which doesn't happen, but to the repeated "recreate this stable from the past!!" threads that we see every week.)

"Push the young guys!!!!" is a majority opinion around here too. Then a guy like Sheamus wins the world title, and the board gets filled with people freaking out over how a young guy like Sheamus could win a world title. The "majority" of people that are making booking threads around here have no clue what they actually want.

So what your saying in a era where we have a black man as president of these united states of america, you would still consider a black wrestler as a "minority"? That's weak!

The whole premise of the original NOD was that they were minority wrestlers being held back by the WWE on the basis of the color of their skin. You are talking about forming a stable where the only common denominator between them is- the color of their skin. How in the world can you then not consider that to be a minority stable? And, yes, he may be the President, but he's still black, and black still isn't considered a majority race in this country. (That still belongs to Caucasians.) Being a minority is based upon your race, not upon the success you've achieved in life.

And before you say it, if you post publicly, you run the risk of me responding to you. I've already told you once how to use the ignore feature if you'd like to pretend I'm not pointing out the glaring holes in your logic.

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

theres no point in bringing back the Nation of Domination, the Mexicools, the NWO, the Four Horsemen, or any other faction that has been used in the past. Are you people to dense to realize how terrible the two current factions in the WWE are?

The Corre has been garbage since its creation. Barrett is boring, in the ring and on the mic. I don't know how Heath Slater(what kind of fucking name is Heath anyway?) hasn't gotten his walking papers yet. Gabriel is boring, his best move is his 450 splash, nothing else he does is impressive, he also cannot cut a promo. Big Zeke has one thing going for him, he's big but nothing else about him is impressive.

The Nexus really serves no purpose other than to get Mason Ryan over with the crowd at this point. Punk doesn't need the group, its holding him back from being the best heel in the company. Otunga has been held back by being in the group he's the only one who could of been a breakout star from the group last year, but they failed at it. Michael McGillicutty has nothing special going for him. Husky Harris was written off TV. Skip is still injured. Tarver was written off TV, showed up randomly on Smackdown, then on Raw, and has vanished again. Cena's black face clone hasn't been seen on TV in who knows how long. Daniel Bryant is still a jobber.

Legacy never gained all the gold. Orton was able to become champ, but Cody and Ted could never gain the tag old while aligned with him. Rather than building up two future stars, it only helped elevate Orton further.

NO MORE FACTIONS

 

[Wolf Pac]

Why in the fuck does everybody want to bring back the Nation of Dominaton and we get these threads every single week? Of course people of your ilk would say The Rock got over because of it but I will argue that it wasn't until Rock aligned with Vince and feuded with Foley was when he was over. R-Truth is doing fine on his own, Kingston is a glorified mid-carder which there is nothing wrong with, and I couldn't care less about MVP. Let the NOD stay in the past and we'll all be better for it.

Clearly you never watched much of WWF back in 98 cause if you had, at Summerslam you would've seen The Rock was over with the crowd when he was the heel in the match and post NOD, he was still over with the crowd if you have seen the reactions for him at In Your House: Breakdown, on Raw & at Survivor Series before he alligned with Vince. The Peoples Elbow, The Peoples Eyebrow, his mic work all got over during his NOD days. Do you think Vince would give The Rock the title if the crowd could give two shits about him & his moves?

As far as the OP's question, I do like the idea of a NOD reunion however I don't think it would work in this day & age. With the PG rating, I doubt parents would want their kids to witness racism on their TV's and with todays bookers, it just wouldn't be pushed right nor would they have another stable to feud with which is one of the things that made NOD famous, their feud with DX. And Truth isn't exactly a Rock on the mic nor does he have any special moves & poses or the charisma & charm Rock has.

However if I were to make a NOD reunion, my members would be:

Farooq - Ron Simmons
Rock - Truth
D-Lo Brown - Kofi
Mark Henry - Mark Henry
Kama Mustafa - Ezekial Jackson

And with that selection, if the bookers wanted to put them over right, you could have Truth win the WWE Title since he's already going for it, Kofi winning the US or IC Championship as he's already in the running for it & is the current US Champion and the two behemoths of the group, Zeke & Henry winning the Tag Team Titles, all at the same time.

 

[AGLegend01]

I really do not agree with bringing back the NOD. The world is a more politically correct place now... Although, I think it would be a great idea to bring back Michael Tarver with the old school Bad News Brown gimmick, no theme music, no fan interaction, no nothing, just comes to ring with a mean look on his face and as soon as he gets in the ring, commences to whoop ass! Almost like a black version of an early SCSA and have him agree with R-Truth yet only let them have a loose alliance...

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

why is their soooooo many frickin threads about bringing back the nation of domination?!??!! i dont get it! besides a stable of r-truth,kofi,mvp and percy watson (with ron simmons as his manager) just sounds like really really weak! truth is getting beliveable in the main event and kofi is a good mid carder but mvp was never that great IMO and i cant fucking stand percy! hes so annoying! plus hes at best a low carder but even that is to good for him (sorry to his fans i hate the guy) bottom line bringing back the nation would be very stupid

 

[trashboy]

I always create the Nation in the games.. my Nation is usually Mark Henry, The Rock (if he's in the game), Ezekial, R Truth and Cryme Tyme

anyway.. why does the Nation have to be all black anyway? the original had those rapping white guys, Crush, Savio Vega and then when The Rock took over, Owen Hart joined..

I would actually love to see the Nation return, always loved the group, especially when The Rock took over.. but adding Kofi is stupid.. R Truth could work, but I'd say you have to have Mark Henry, and I'd throw in Ezekial.. just not sure who else

and I really don't see how "being PG" means that it can't work.. it's just a stable, when CM Punk took over the Nexus.. i actually thought it was like an all white Nation.. they would come to the ring and hold their fists in the air

 

[harrythem]

The Nation shouldn't be one of those wrestling stables that came and went. There were alot of groups in the WWF/E that had a reunion for a short period (DX,the Radicalz,nWo). .

Just using those 3 groups you mentioned as examples wasn't the best idea...seeing as DX 2006 was shit compared to the original (pop for nostalgia only and who the names were, not the long over-stayed gimmick). Radicalz went their seperate ways quietly because the group was shit and no-one cared about them much as a group within a few weeks of their original debut. nWo/WWEnWo died a death almost as soon as it started, hence why it was killed off so quickly. What do they all have in common? They sequels shit all over the original legacy of the group (except for the Radicals, that was shit in round 1). Nation had their moment, it went, end of.

The Nation of Domination was to good of a wrestling faction to be here today and gone tomorrow. Like some other wrestling fans feel, I think that the Nation of Domination group should be brought back to the WWE.

The original Horsemen run was only about a year or so, yet it was soo good they brought it back again, and again, and again, and again, to less interest each time. They brought it back because "it worked before, so it'll work again"...stop looking to the past for a gang that was a blatant rip-off of the black panther's (who then feuded with the hells angels and the cast of west side story) and try to spend your time thinking of a novel new group that could have something going for it other then "the members are all negros"

 

[go_patriots11]

The Nation was great lets get that straight right away. I'm not against a return in any way but I would go in a slightly different direction. First I don't think I would re-hash the name Nation Of Domination. I've always liked the idea of an all black group but like others have said the racial issues connected would not mesh well with todays WWE. Now what I propose would be an all black group similar to the likes of The Horsemen, or Evolution. They would basically live the life of todays pop-rap superstars (Money, Cars, Women, Henny) You could even base each member off of a current rapper, for example..
My leader would be Big Zeke, he could be like a dominant Suge Knight Type. You could even have a guy like Kanye West in there. Arrogant, Cocky (basically a black Ric Flair)
Thats an Idea I've had for awhile now anyway. Like I said I wouldn't be against the Nation returning though.

 

[CM Steel]

The Nation was great lets get that straight right away. I'm not against a return in any way but I would go in a slightly different direction. First I don't think I would re-hash the name Nation Of Domination. I've always liked the idea of an all black group but like others have said the racial issues connected would not mesh well with todays WWE. Now what I propose would be an all black group similar to the likes of The Horsemen, or Evolution. They would basically live the life of todays pop-rap superstars (Money, Cars, Women, Henny) You could even base each member off of a current rapper, for example..
My leader would be Big Zeke, he could be like a dominant Suge Knight Type. You could even have a guy like Kanye West in there. Arrogant, Cocky (basically a black Ric Flair)
Thats an Idea I've had for awhile now anyway. Like I said I wouldn't be against the Nation returning though.

I have thought of the idea of big Zeke's gimmick being a Suge Knight like charactor. Mostly because they both look-a-like. Ezekiel Jackson is jacked unlike Suge Knight. But he has the same beard, the same diamond studded earrings (while he's wrestling), and wears red & black trunks, not saying he's a piru blood gangbanger or anything. But has to say that big Zeke had to be Suge Knight? Why not Rick Ross? He's more current.

But I see what you are saying about the NOD NOT being a group based around racism. Or unless you have them as a Black Panther or Public Enemy or something to that degree. But the WWE can flip it on something on a Cash/Young Money type group, I'm not against that at all!

 

[The Dragon Saga]

theres no point in bringing back the Nation of Domination, the Mexicools, the NWO, the Four Horsemen, or any other faction that has been used in the past.

I KNOW!

We should bring back Right to Censor, and it should be led by Matt Stryker and he can bring in people like Tyson Kidd, who'll have to get his fringe cut off due to the RTC way of life. They can recruit Zack Ryder and hell, even Tyler Reks. And from the Divas they can bring in fucking... fucking... TAMINA!!!

I should be on WWE Creative, because bringing back dead groups nobody cares about is such a wanted thing! And while we're at it, lets bring back The UnAmericans, and have it led by Primo Colon

 

[Joshua]

No.

Ron Simmons is a road agent, I'm sure he is fine with saying one word now and then on Raw. Hell he probably gets a bonus for that shit.

But I can't see NOD coming back. It wouldn't connect with the young fan base therefore Vince won't do this.

 

[The Crock]

Just because there are black people in the WWE, that doesn't mean there has to be a Nation of Domination re-boot. This is a stupid idea and it just wouldn't work. Why must there be another faction? After Nexus and The Corre we just don't need anymore factions, not only that, but at least get one that would fit the era. The PG Era doesn't need a black supremacy faction, most of the fans (the kids) wouldn't get it for the most part, and it's just not up to speed with the times.

This is a bad idea all around.

 

[wrestlingexpert69]

My suggestion would be to leave Kofi Kingston out of NOD, cause WWE will never made him a heel. Instead, he could join Booker T and help him deal with The Nation. The perfect line up for NOD would be: R-Truth, Faarooq (as manager), Ezekiel Jackson (Personification of domination!), Mark Henry and MVP (or returned D Lo Brown if he is still in good shape).

 

[CM Steel]

My suggestion would be to leave Kofi Kingston out of NOD, cause WWE will never made him a heel. Instead, he could join Booker T and help him deal with The Nation. The perfect line up for NOD would be: R-Truth, Faarooq (as manager), Ezekiel Jackson (Personification of domination!), Mark Henry and MVP (or returned D Lo Brown if he is still in good shape).

I see what you are saying about not making Kofi Kingston a heel. You just can't remove that smile from his face!

But does the Nation really need two strong men in the NOD? Big Zeke should be enough. And the last time that the E tried to bring back D'Lo Brown, it failed sadly. Because the PG fans don't remember who he is.

 

[Hyorinmaru]

correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the NOD a black militant stable with Farooq in a Malcolm X type role?


Now assuming the answer is yes then why? The kids that the WWE is targeting don't know about Black Militant groups or racism at all really (depends on the kids of course). There's also the lack of black heels in the WWE at the moment. you could turn Big Zeke and we have R-truth & Mark Henry and that's it. You could bring back D-lo and Simmons I guess but only the adults would know who they were or the history behind these 2 and the kids wouldn't care.

There's also the fact that any kind of Racism on a TV show that targets children as the Key Demographic is a horrible horrible idea no matter how to try to spin it.

All in all a bad idea and not needed in the first place.

 

[Owen King of Hearts]

Mack Swagger as a Nation of Domination fan you are not that good You say Nation of Domination have two different leaders

what did Forgot Owen Hart being co-leader with the Rock

 

[attackgypsy]

I don't believe the NOD could come back these days. First of all, there aren't a whole lot of African-American superstars in the WWE. There is only like 9 or 10, and most of them are either tied up in big storylines, or on their way out the door.

But, given that they seem to be developing talent from Mexico, would not a version of the old WCW's Latino World Order be appropriate? Especially with Eddie Guerrero's daughter working her way up? You know Chavo will be retiring in a few years... maybe one last run to honor Eddie for the 10th anniversary? Or any anniversary?