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How far will Punk go?

I think they will let Punk go Survivor Series to Survivor Series with the title. Have him drop it to Cena then and have Cena v Rock at the Rumble.

In all honesty I expect Rock to lose the title match at the Rumble and then win the actual Rumble itself. I don't see Punk going longer for a year as champion.

Also to the guy who said Punk doesn't draw, he's been given one legitimate chance to sell a PPV on his own back and it didn't do worse than WWE expected. Fact is that the WWE have only built one legitimate draw in the last few years and every opportunity they have to build another they let it slip through their fingers.
 
I honestly dont want to see Punk and the Rock. I am not saying it doesnt have the potential of being a great match but I think the Rock could pull Punks tough guy card and Punk would be exposed. And I say this because I think Punk would try to shoot on the Rock in little snippets and then Rock would crush him in the Promos to follow. At least with Cena and was entertaining with humor but with Punk he get serious.

Anyway I hope he drops it at the NOC and Cena can Face the Rock at Mania. And creative knows what to do next(lets a long shot though of them being good at their job)
Ready:

NOC-Punk drops Belt to Cena

HITC-HITC-Cena defeats Punk,Show,Bryan,Kane(who ever)Armageddon HITC match

SS- Traditional Tag team matches- Team Cena(Wade Barrett returns for team Cena) vs Team Punk

TLC-doesnt matter against who but Cena retains

RR- Cena beats Rock, but Rock then wins Rumble(dont see Rock till WM)

EC-Cena, Punk, Kane, Show, Bryan, and Barrett WINNER: Barrett

WM- WWE Championship- Barrett vs Rock
WH Championship- Swagger vs Ziggler(what can I say I like Swagger)
The Streak- Cena vs Undertaker
TagTeam- Sin-Sterio(SinCara n Mysterio) vs Reality of Rock (Miz&Slater) vs Just-In-Air(Justin Gabrial&Evan Bourn)
HHH vs Punk (never really had a finish and wanted to see where it would go. Storyline, Punk keeps complaining about the belt and what not for months now and HHH had enough)
WINNERS Dont matter
 
Actually, it most likely is Vince's fault. When Punk's character was completely muted after his initial run as The Voice of the Voiceless, he lost nearly all of his momentum. Did I forget to mention the fact that Triple H came in to steal the thunder as well? If Vince or Trips don't want you getting over, you aren't getting over. Period.

Think of Steve Austin for a second, if you will. What would have happened if he went full-on babyface (like Punk did) after the Bret match, Austin 3:16, etc.? You guessed it! People would have become bored of his character much quicker, and his momentum would have been killed. The fans used to make the decisions on which wrestlers were over. Now, due to lack of competition, Vince and Hunter get to make those calls.

Some of the blame may go to Punk, but the vast flipping majority of it certainly goes to Vince and Trips.

I couldn't agree more with the above, after a few months of "shooting" and dropping pipe bombs, Vince wasn't going to let Punk continue with that more edgy style, so Punk settled into his face run with a more softened approach, and with that, I believe he lost a lot of his momentum.

This nice, long title run has been great, but It feels like a consolation prize. The direction Punk was going in after breaking down the fourth wall was much more important than any championship he could hold. I'm not screaming conspiracy, but it seems more than just a coincidence that the reins on Punk were pulled back as soon as he started selling more merchandise than a certain someone..............
 
I really hope and pray that The Rock never wins the WWE Championship again. Simply put, The guy does not need it. Giving him the strap will accomplish nothing. Yes, he is a bigger draw but him having the belt will not increase numbers anymore than if he didnt.

I really hope Punk holds the title till Mania and takes on the Royal Rumble winner in the main event and drops the title. I would love for Bryan to go face before the end of the year and embrace the "Yes!Yes!Yes!" chants once again and go on to win the rumble. Punk and Bryan put on a 5 star classic with bryan coming out on top clean and closing WrestleMania in a embrace with Punk like Guerrero/Benoit did. Granted thats a fanboy's dream and probably wont happen but that's what i would like to see.
 
Well he just bashed the republicans and with it being an election year and everything he just shot his WWE career in the foot with Linda trying to get elected and all. If he's lucky he'll lose at NOC, but I really want to be wrong on this one...
 
cm punk is the worker, john cena is the state, the rock is the bourgeois. the rock was just given, what anyone else would have to earn. if wwe was planet of the apes punk is a chimp, cena an orangutan and the rock is a gorilla. cm punk needs to go as far as he has to go to represent the best thing for wrestling and the worst thing for wwe, and to wrestle cena and rock in a triple threat at wm 29.
 
I honestly dont want to see Punk and the Rock. I am not saying it doesnt have the potential of being a great match but I think the Rock could pull Punks tough guy card and Punk would be exposed. And I say this because I think Punk would try to shoot on the Rock in little snippets and then Rock would crush him in the Promos to follow. At least with Cena and was entertaining with humor but with Punk he get serious.

Anyway I hope he drops it at the NOC and Cena can Face the Rock at Mania. And creative knows what to do next(lets a long shot though of them being good at their job)
Ready:

NOC-Punk drops Belt to Cena

HITC-HITC-Cena defeats Punk,Show,Bryan,Kane(who ever)Armageddon HITC match

SS- Traditional Tag team matches- Team Cena(Wade Barrett returns for team Cena) vs Team Punk

TLC-doesnt matter against who but Cena retains

RR- Cena beats Rock, but Rock then wins Rumble(dont see Rock till WM)

EC-Cena, Punk, Kane, Show, Bryan, and Barrett WINNER: Barrett

WM- WWE Championship- Barrett vs Rock
WH Championship- Swagger vs Ziggler(what can I say I like Swagger)
The Streak- Cena vs Undertaker
TagTeam- Sin-Sterio(SinCara n Mysterio) vs Reality of Rock (Miz&Slater) vs Just-In-Air(Justin Gabrial&Evan Bourn)
HHH vs Punk (never really had a finish and wanted to see where it would go. Storyline, Punk keeps complaining about the belt and what not for months now and HHH had enough)
WINNERS Dont matter

Barrett beating the Rock before the face of the company ? Really?
and not having CM Punk in the tile match for wrestlemania isn't realistic unless of course some one else comes along and diverts his attention. Since Austin probably won't be ready the more realistic main event for mania is going to be cena,rock,punk or if rock can't make it it will be punk and cena



Cena most likely won't face undertaker until wrestlemania 30 or which ever one undertaker retires in.

My theory is while cena does have home field advantage I don't really like his chances of going into night of champions. What they will probably do is have cena beat punk at survivors series and then let punk put cena through a table to get the belt back at TLC.

Don't expect punk to keep it until RR there is no way they will let him beat Cena 's 380 record which is exactly what punk would have to do to keep it until Royal Rumble.
 
I THOUGHT Punk should/could have had a RIDICULOUSLY LONG title reign(Almost Bruno Status), but with WWE turning Punk a full heel now, his reign will end by the rumble.

I don't want to see Cena/Rock again, The first wasn't anything special & idc if it is for the title.

And I think it SHOULD be Punk/Rock for the title at Mania 29.

But I don't think WWE will do that. IF they are going to do a Cena/Rock rematch for the title (which looks inevitable) it will be at Mania.

Just use common sense. Taker/Brock looks like an almost sure fire thing. If Rock face Punk for the title, where is Cena? He couldn't go against a babyface unless they are a Legend. In the WHC match or something maybe? Cena/Bryan would be awesome but that won't be the main event. That would be the 3rd Tier Main Event Match, WWE wouldn't book Cena that low. Not to mention I don't think Cena will be anywhere near the WHC during Mania 29.

For Mania 29 if WWE booked:
-Taker/Brock
-WWE Title: Cena/Rock II
You have ALOT of options left open for Punk.
-Punk/HHH
-Punk/Sheamus
-Punk/Barrett
-Punk/The WHC

The only way I see WWE booking Rock/Punk on top of Taker/Brock, would be to have Orton vs. Cena one on one. And not only do I think they are saving that to have "Cena take on Orton - Once in a Lifetime....One on One........at Mania", I think Orton is WAY to much in the toilet for that currently.
 
How far will Punk go?
Till september 16, 2012...

How many times has happened that superstar doesnt win in his hometown? It has happened but not in some relevant numers. I would love to be wrong but Cena wins at NoC and Punk would probably get some revenge afterwards(till RR) and be World Champion again.
 
Till september 16, 2012...

How many times has happened that superstar doesnt win in his hometown? It has happened but not in some relevant numers. I would love to be wrong but Cena wins at NoC and Punk would probably get some revenge afterwards(till RR) and be World Champion again.
It happens all the time. Cena lost to Edge when Summerslam was in Boston and then Edge lost to Cena the next month when the September PPV (Unforgiven, I think) was in Toronto. Jim Ross used to get the piss beaten out of him whenever they went to Oklahoma (think Taker heel turn in November 2001 and the Austin beatdown after he aligned with Vince earlier in that year). Sure, Cena's won in Boston before and Punk won in Chicago at Money in the Bank and Extreme Rules, but that doesn't mean guys don't lose when fights in his hometown. The examples I gave are just the ones I remembered off the top of my head; I am sure there are plenty more that others can come up with.

As far as how far Punk can go, I think the most likely dates for him to drop the belt are Survivor Series, Royal Rumble and WrestleMania. Which one of those it is, I don't know. If he gets to Mania as champ, he'll drop it there if he's still a heel. Very rarely does a heel close Mania with the title. It's only happened three times: Miz at 27, Austin at X-7 (though this is on a slight technicality, since he didn't go heel until just before he won the belt) and Triple H at 2000. That's it; that's the list. So the chances of a heel Punk joining that group are pretty slim, in my opinion.
 
It happens all the time. Cena lost to Edge when Summerslam was in Boston and then Edge lost to Cena the next month when the September PPV (Unforgiven, I think) was in Toronto. Jim Ross used to get the piss beaten out of him whenever they went to Oklahoma (think Taker heel turn in November 2001 and the Austin beatdown after he aligned with Vince earlier in that year). Sure, Cena's won in Boston before and Punk won in Chicago at Money in the Bank and Extreme Rules, but that doesn't mean guys don't lose when fights in his hometown. The examples I gave are just the ones I remembered off the top of my head; I am sure there are plenty more that others can come up with.
Yes but it rarely happens. Ziggler won his Money in the Bank in Phoenix, Rock won his match with Cena at Houston etc. There are examples of oposite but they are rare. On the other side, it could generate good heat toward Punk and push his heel ways but I dont think that WWE is that smart and they just want to make the "homecrowd" happy. My money is on Cena and that Punk will prevail again before RR...
 
I'm bored to death with Punk's title reign and I'd like it to end. The only thing interesting about his reign is the amount of time it's lasted. He's not the top draw, his feuds haven't been blockbusters so just end it already.
 
How long I THINK CM Punk holds the WWE Championship and how long I would LIKE for him to hold the title are not going to have the same answer. If they want to truly establish Punk as a new top guy, then he needs to only retain against Cena at Night of Champions, but he also needs to last long enough to retain against The Rock at the Royal Rumble. This has been the longest reign since Cena's year long reign in 2006-2007, and I'd like it to last even longer than that. if Punk made it all the way until Wrestlemania for a retention there after having held the belt for over 500 days then that would help permanently establish him as one of the guys at the very top in WWE.

Unfortunately, that is now how I see it all playing out in the end. He'll probably retain against Cena at Night of Champions, then keep retaining through Survivor Series and TLC so he makes it past the one year mark but he will lose the title to The Rock. WWE are not going to miss an opportunity to let The Rock hold the title again, it would do wonders for them in terms of mainstream attention if The Rock briefly held the title again. Punk could always win it back from him, but I definitely see him losing to The Rock at the moment. Maybe things will change between now and January, we'll see.
 
I get that having The Rock as WWE Champion is a great move in terms of name recognition and what not (as the Rock is still very very popular)

and having The Rock as Champ unfortunately sets the stage for a rematch with Cena @ Wrestlemania

but is putting the title on a part timer (even if he is a very big name Superstar) really the best idea?

**i grew up a big fan of The Rock and during the Attitude Era he was easily one of my favorites

but right now if he keeps to his limited WWE TV schedule, I don't really see a point in letting the Rock pick up the belt @ the Rumble, especially if it's all just to lead up to another Wrestlemania match vs Cena

**if people are bored w Punk's long reign, I wonder what they think of World HW Champion Sheamus, who's list of competitors has run so dry he's rematching Alberto Del Rio for the third consecutive PPV.
 
I personally think Cena will win at HIAC giving WWE a little time to work out if they want either Punk or Cena vs Rock at RR but whatever happens personally I feel the perfect opportunity to create a major star (potentially) is to let Punk run with this current gimmick because over time I think it'll be great TV if done right, and him to beat Rock at WM
 
I love Punks long title reign. I think he has really put together an awesome run.

Punk may lose the title to Cena at NoC but I think he will retain. I see him losing the title to Rock at the RR.

What Id like to see happen is have Cena/Rock/Punk in a 2 match situation like WMX. Cena wins the Rumble, Rock gets screwed out of the title at the Rumble. Cena wants to face the WWE champion at WM, Rock also deserves a shot. Coin toss to see who faces punk first (Cena wins) Punk vs Rock II to end WM.
 
I actually feel like the set-up for Rock/Punk for the title is a done deal. And I think Punk retains (with shenanigans.) I realize that Punk jumping the Rock may have just been the opening of his heel turn, but I think that it's more than that. As a matter of fact, I'm so certain that Punk/Rock is going to happen for the title that it's made the NOC Punk/Cena feel a little hollow to me.

Rock's occasional presence has kind of put other people in a holding pattern. It makes some other matches feel like they're just placeholders until the night Rock is there. I would love to see Punk retain for quite a while, and I would love to see Cena shifted elsewhere. The problem becomes who else does Cena face and who else does Punk face? For Punk, I would love to see it be Lesnar, but that would involve flipping Punk back to face, and that seems to go against the direction they're headed.

Cena's weakness with a segment of the crowd gets exposed when he goes against Punk or Rock. He needs a really contemptible heel to go against. Superman looks fine when they play him against General Zod, but he suffers when he bickers and feuds with the darker, cooler Batman. Cena's an old-fashioned good guy. He needs and old-fashioned bad guy to clash with. Right now, WWE doesn't have many of those above mid-card. Maybe Cena could help get Sandow or somebody like that over as a credible heel. But that's not gonna happen. They're going to keep swirling him around with the same couple guys.
 
Some may say The Rock eliminates unpredictability which they are right. But my question to them is who scripted that way? Just like Punk being scripted a heel but not just a heel but a cowardly heel.When people justify him attacking The Rock it shows the storywriters have no clue whats going on. I feel bad for Punk and Cena is the reason. The WWE have finally accepted mixed reactions. It's bad because Cena doesn't change character and because Punk accepts that Cena is the man and he will never be the face of the company.It damages Punk's image as BITW when he accepts Cena is the face of the company not because he made that supposed heel turn at raw1000.When he allows Cena to tell him that he is a whiner it shows who runs the show which sucks.
 

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