well idk.... i really like the whole segmant with these 2 and i found the promo good. It was morrison like talking normaly with truth but with second emotions to what hes really saying to truth. I really liked it and the match AND the aftermath i enjoyed it all and that was 1 sick heel turn too this opening promo for me was great! idk if my expectations are low or u people are just to stricked but i really enjoyed it.
Horrible Opening Promo
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Sting's Bat
The True Icon
The promo they cut was akward, boring , and too long. Really I see that they were trying to go for the hey we are freinds we are challenging eachother, but overall it came off forced, hammy and boring. Also the beatdown after went on too long anyway I looked at my clock saw 9:25 and said to myself "this is still going on?"
The opening promo was just terrible. Both men rambled, seemed to lose their place, and couldn't keep anything remotely resembling a pace. They could have cut the time for that promo in half, gotten everything needed to be said out, and still had time to spare. Some guys have it, some don't. This was just further proof that these guys are amongst the worst on the mic in the company. A dirt simple verbal exchange that had zero heat, because neither guy could cut it.
That being said, I loved the post fight beat down. *That* was some of R-Truth's best work since returning to the company. It was vicious, remorseful, and emotional. Instead of just pure antagonism, Truth played it with some genuine internal conflict, and I felt it added a ton to the segment. It wasn't just "I hate you John Morrion!" it was more "I wish you didn't make me do this John, I'm sorry." Truth worked the beatdown well, and Morrison sold it well. That was the story, and it worked.
Keep these guys away from the mic, for the love of god, but they showed something tonight (Truth far more than Morrison), and I've been left intrigued.
That being said, I loved the post fight beat down. *That* was some of R-Truth's best work since returning to the company. It was vicious, remorseful, and emotional. Instead of just pure antagonism, Truth played it with some genuine internal conflict, and I felt it added a ton to the segment. It wasn't just "I hate you John Morrion!" it was more "I wish you didn't make me do this John, I'm sorry." Truth worked the beatdown well, and Morrison sold it well. That was the story, and it worked.
Keep these guys away from the mic, for the love of god, but they showed something tonight (Truth far more than Morrison), and I've been left intrigued.
hhhfansince1999
Dark Match Jobber
That was the worst opening segment of raw ive seen.Two guys with horrible mic skills.I sometimes ask myself why wwe or should i say vince is doing all these things.First the pg crap,then horrible storylines,and now he decided to take the word wrestling away from wwe.What can i say wwe is going down hill that is if their already down hill
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
Keep in mind, people, this is about the OPENING PROMO only. Not the match, and not the heel turn.
The promo segment was brutal. I mean, honestly, one of the worst promo segments I can remember, in WWE, WWF, WCW and even TNA.
Truth cannot talk. I don't mean talk, like, cut a promo. I mean talk, physically. He struggles with getting words out of his mouth. It's sad, really.
Morrison, on the mic, is like the walking dead. He couldn't possibly display less emotion if he tried. At least Truth gave energy. Morrison was like a zombie.
I haven't fast-forwarded a Raw segment in months, and I couldn't start tonight. However, I kind of regret not skipping this segment. The match was average, and the heel turn wasn't bad. But this segment really started the show off on a bad note, and minus the great main event match, it never really recovered.
Horrible, awful, terrible opening promo.
The promo segment was brutal. I mean, honestly, one of the worst promo segments I can remember, in WWE, WWF, WCW and even TNA.
Truth cannot talk. I don't mean talk, like, cut a promo. I mean talk, physically. He struggles with getting words out of his mouth. It's sad, really.
Morrison, on the mic, is like the walking dead. He couldn't possibly display less emotion if he tried. At least Truth gave energy. Morrison was like a zombie.
I haven't fast-forwarded a Raw segment in months, and I couldn't start tonight. However, I kind of regret not skipping this segment. The match was average, and the heel turn wasn't bad. But this segment really started the show off on a bad note, and minus the great main event match, it never really recovered.
Horrible, awful, terrible opening promo.
realbrutha
Pre-Show Stalwart
IM getting sick and tired of people hating on Rtruth when IN THE FUCK HAS CENA CUT A GOOD PROMO? honestly? You do know Cena stole R truths rap gimmick in the first place. Look on youtube Rtruth disses him about it. You dont know what hes the future of. He was 2 TIME WORLD CHAMPION IN TNA. You know why ? cuz he was used properly. It finally took the wwe like 3/4 years to make Rtruth a heel. Which is what he was in the first place. Also, Morrison was the one that didnt do that well on his promo. When cutting promos the wrestlers have to feed off each other also. You have to realize Rtruth was trying to be irritating during his promo. When the match started he went an got water to irritate the fans.
ptsheridan
Occasional Pre-Show
lol wut? Cena's worst promo is still better than Truth's best promo. Just go back and look at his rap promo in response to the Rock.
realbrutha
Pre-Show Stalwart
He did good on that rap to the rock but besides that. Cena hasnt had to be a jobber like Rtruth for over a year. Dude cena couldnt hold Rtruths Jock as far as mic skills go. Im talking about when RTRUTH IS A HEEL.
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Your example of a good R-Truth promo is one where he is almost completely incomprehensible, and ends the promo by screwing up another wrestler's catchphrase? Seriously? What the hell dude?
Cena is one of the best in the business on the mic, Truth is one of the worst. I'm sorry, I realize that you like the guy, but it's, pardon the pun, the whole Truth. You can tell this by the crowd reacting to what Cena says, as opposed to the deafening silence that follows a Truth promo.
And yes, Truth was a 2 time NWA champion. During a period where TNA meant less than nothing. And had nobody better. And still his title runs were inconsequential. Woo.
I liked Truth's beatdown of Morrison this week. He did that well. However, he is still one of the worst promo guys in the company, despite the fact that you like him. Wishing real hard isn't going to change that.
TWJC: The Beginning
Royal Rumble Winner
Don't blame the wrestlers, well do, but it's just as much the writers fault. They were both out of their element. The smoking thing is an odd way of going about it.
I kinda like it though, it's fun to have a smoking bad guy. the match wasn't half bad and Truth tried his damndest to show his internal change of good guy to bad guy.
They get an A for effort but a D on execution.
I kinda like it though, it's fun to have a smoking bad guy. the match wasn't half bad and Truth tried his damndest to show his internal change of good guy to bad guy.
They get an A for effort but a D on execution.
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
You have cemented your status as the single stupidest wrestling fan in the history of ever. Cena couldn't hold Truth's jock? First of all, I think you mean jockstrap, first sign of your ignorance. Second of all, you presented a video of Truth being trashed by Scott Hall as evidence of him being better than Cena? He wasn't even better than the guy in the video you presented. Finally, Truth is nowhere near the level of Cena when it comes to promos. I know these things are usually a matter of opinion, but not in this case. Cena is better than Truth in every fathomable way. Talking, wrestling, shit, Cena is even a 10x better rapper than Truth.
I hate that you made me trash Truth because I actually came into this thread with the intention of defending the opening promo. No it wasn't seamless and it had quite a bit of stumbles, but I liked the way it came off. It was different than the "I respect you/I respect you too" face vs face promos we hear all of the damn time. I saw more from Truth than I ever have before, and I'm actually quite interested to see where this heel turn takes him. I want to see Truth, when has that ever happened?
Rckstrtmmy
Yabba Dabba Bitch
You know, we can still criticize RTruth if we deem it necessary. Just because he's black doesn't mean he's immune to criticism and we have to like him. I don't hate him personally, but if you think he's gold on the mic you're a fucking moron. He's OK at best. More emotion than Morrison sure, but he isn't the smoothest talking person I've heard. You assuming that people don't like him just because he's black is stupid and ignorant. It's not the 50's anymore so get your head out of your fucking ass.
TWJC: The Beginning
Royal Rumble Winner
People on here will hate on anything that's in the WWE unless it's a midcard match with a ton of highspots between guys who are all under 6' and 200 pounds with no charisma. that's my theory.
I thought that the opening promo was awkward, but the match was pretty fun and the turn was fun too. A guy who's a heel because he smokes. I like it. It's new. The goal was to give Morrison the shot and to turn Truth heel. Of course it takes up a lot of time. Maybe they should have spread it out over a few weeks but maybe they have more in store?
I thought that the opening promo was awkward, but the match was pretty fun and the turn was fun too. A guy who's a heel because he smokes. I like it. It's new. The goal was to give Morrison the shot and to turn Truth heel. Of course it takes up a lot of time. Maybe they should have spread it out over a few weeks but maybe they have more in store?
The segment worked. Hey look, it's Morrison heeling his way into a match. R-Truth looks like he's being betrayed by his partner. I wonder if Morrison is going to go back to being a bad guy. Oh wait, he's saying Truth is the bad guy. Ok, well I guess that's how Morrison sees things in Morrisonworld. Why is Morrion saying bad stuff about his friend, I wonder?
One of the most painful promos I have ever sat through. They lack chemistry themselves and with each other.
They both effectively cemented why they should not be main eventers.
It's no coincidence that the 2 best talkers currently in the WWE also happen to be Cena and the Miz and both get criticised for their in ring ability.
In ring ability comes second to charisma in this business.
They both effectively cemented why they should not be main eventers.
It's no coincidence that the 2 best talkers currently in the WWE also happen to be Cena and the Miz and both get criticised for their in ring ability.
In ring ability comes second to charisma in this business.
It was pretty bad. No joke. I'm a Morrison fan, and a Truth disliker 
But I'm not going to blame either superstars for that promo that made me keep saying "What the f***?!"
I think most people here have forgotten, that, no matter how charismatic you are, if you're given crappy lines/material, you'll cut a crappy promo. Except for maybe *MAYBE* the Rock.
After all, it doesn't matter who shits in a cup. It's still shit. You can sprinkle it like crazy. But even then, it's still shit.
I blame the roadkill that gave them their lines.
But hey, thats just me.
But I'm not going to blame either superstars for that promo that made me keep saying "What the f***?!"
I think most people here have forgotten, that, no matter how charismatic you are, if you're given crappy lines/material, you'll cut a crappy promo. Except for maybe *MAYBE* the Rock.
After all, it doesn't matter who shits in a cup. It's still shit. You can sprinkle it like crazy. But even then, it's still shit.
I blame the roadkill that gave them their lines.
But hey, thats just me.
Mustang Sally
Sells seashells by the seashore
Good point. But even so, at least the writers are trying out new things. I remember during the Attitude Era when people were complaining that: "Every RAW starts out with Triple H and Stephanie on the mic." Today, people criticize guys like Cena or Orton for always being the ones to take the opening slot.
So now, the company is trying out two new guys for the opening promo.
And guess what?.....People hate that, too.
Well, whether the opening segment sucked or not, at least it's not the same old thing and I give the company credit for originality.
Trill Co$by
Believes in The Shield!
I saw nothing wrong with R-Truth's side of things. The guy was excited about having a title shot and then Morrison came and fucked everything up... man, I really hate that guy. R-Truth tried and tried to save that promo from sinking but the horrible mic worker that Morrison is found a way to ruin everything.
That was absolutely the worst promo I have ever heard in my life. R Truth couldn't string together 3 sentences if his life depended on it. Morrison was soooo boring and monotone. Honestly, if I was Morrison I would go after the cheap pops just to get the fans behind him and hide the facts that he can barely say the alphabet without sounding like he is asleep.
hollowpoint
The Greatest of the Universe!!
The promo was terrible. It was partly the writers' fault, but I blame most of it on the delivery. JoMo has horrible timing and Truth isn't a wordsmith to say the least. It was like watch a Blind guy talk to a Def guy in the ring. The match was decent though and the turn was $$$. So what started off as bad ended up ok. I just hope they go somewhere with this and not totally write it off as they have been known to do.
I genuinely enjoyed it. I wasn't exactly blowing my load over it but I thought it was pretty decent. Morrison displayed no less competence than The Miz does in his promos; his douche face just isn't as exquisite and punchable. Shit, I'd go so far to say that R-Truth impressed me - and this is coming from someone who was holding their head when he won the number one contender spot. He was very natural and fed the crowd well. The only thing that struck me as awkward was the way that they were standing.
The match they had was impressive and would have been elevated if the announcers had stuck to putting over the wrestlers and not themselves. The bit about questioning Truth's fitness and the whole water bottle thing was actually referenced during the match. So yeah, the promo, the match and the following segment fed into one another.
The beatdown afterwards was actually one of the best I've seen in a while. No, really. I've watched TNA enough to know a bad beatdown and that wasn't it. No "Oh my God, he's attacking him with an array of barely connecting punches and kicks, the humanity!" bullshit. Instead, what Truth did to Morrison looked conceivably like it hurt. Truth was pretty intense and had proper motivation to do what he did. Morrison didn't look weak either - he was attacked from behind, got thrown around pretty hard on the outside, then got suckered again after Truth pretended to help him up.
I fail to see a problem with it.
The match they had was impressive and would have been elevated if the announcers had stuck to putting over the wrestlers and not themselves. The bit about questioning Truth's fitness and the whole water bottle thing was actually referenced during the match. So yeah, the promo, the match and the following segment fed into one another.
The beatdown afterwards was actually one of the best I've seen in a while. No, really. I've watched TNA enough to know a bad beatdown and that wasn't it. No "Oh my God, he's attacking him with an array of barely connecting punches and kicks, the humanity!" bullshit. Instead, what Truth did to Morrison looked conceivably like it hurt. Truth was pretty intense and had proper motivation to do what he did. Morrison didn't look weak either - he was attacked from behind, got thrown around pretty hard on the outside, then got suckered again after Truth pretended to help him up.
I fail to see a problem with it.
a member of wwe universe
Getting Noticed By Management
It doesnt matter if the wwe give a whole hour tv time for those two and how wonderful the wwe for letting the midcarders start the show. It is the fact those two sucks on the mic. PERIOD!!!
And there are actually morons on this forum willing to criticize THE ROCK's promo skill being STALE and YET ppl are willing to find a way to defend the promo skill of guys like morrison and truth?
a member of wwe universe
Getting Noticed By Management
You gotta be kidding me?
i dont mind seeing fanboy of morrison defending his promo skill. But for you to say morrison displayed no less competence than the miz than you're out of your mind. Thats like saying the miz is shit on the mic. Because everybody knows the miz promo skill is what got him to where he is at. If morrison was anywhere near the miz level in promo skill, then he shouldve been maineventing a long time ago. But he is not.
Morrison was having an "average-joe conversation" with R truth. Enough said
shooter_mcgavin
Mid-Card Championship Winner
Promo work could have been better. However is it possible that R-Truth's delivery promo was supposed to be bad? I mean he's not a character people took that seriously so maybe it was a way to transition to his fun loving "what's up" character to that with a mean streak.
Overall the segment worked, it established Morrison in the title hunt. And provided R-Truth a chance to turn heel. I like it.
Overall the segment worked, it established Morrison in the title hunt. And provided R-Truth a chance to turn heel. I like it.
Zigglerfan227
Getting Noticed By Management
I really enjoyed the promo. No, it was not excellent or great or anything like that, but it was entertaining and very interesting. That is just me. R-Truth stepped it up last night and was a great talker. In other words, his mic skills have improved greatly. Morrison stepped it up as well. Of course Morrison was talking about some dumb things but come on, the guy actually had some talking skills showing. It reminded me of his Dirt Sheet days. The promo led to a good match and an awesome heel turn for R-Truth. No complaints here.