Honor Edge - Retire the WHC

[ugotpwned999]

I dont think so much to honour Edge. There are so many greater superstars that have held the world championship in NWA,WCW etc... But I do think that the WWE Should retire the WHC. To all the posters above who have said that you need a for Smackdown aswell as Raw how bout the brand extension ends so theres one roster, 2 shows just like before the brands split up. Have one WWE champion who appears on both shows so that there is a big rivalry over one championship. It worked in 1999, 2000, 2001, 1st part of '02. Theres really no need for 2 championships.

Also, Just wanted to state that the WWE getting rid of 'wrestling' is extremely disrespectful to all the legends who have held the big gold belt. Another reason to retire it...

 

[TheMaskedNewton]

Honor Edge on his retirement by retiring the WHC title?

Vince McMahon will not be honored on his death by retiring WHC title. (I wish Vince McMahon good health, success in what he does and many many years of good life.) I made the point to emphasise on the importance of the title. It is above any single individual, however sucessful he may have been.

And the brand extention you say? Everyone jumps on the bandwagon to say that brand extention is a poor decision. That is not correct. This is the master strategy IMO. Creating competition within itself!

WWE is the number 1 'wrestling' company, and TNA is number 2 wrestling company, people say? Let me break the myth....WWE is the number 1 and WWE is the number 2 company. TNA is placed at number 3. If there would have been no brand extention, TNA would have achieved a lot of success even before Hogan and Bischof came. (That does not mean it has achieved everything by now.) It is very important to have 2 World titles. And IC title and US title are there for enhancement, Christian does not need such a title reign at this juncture of his career. He must either fight for the World title or for no title, just upper mid-card feuds.

 

[BASSER911414]

Id rather see the WWE title retired before the world title for many reasons

1) no matter how hard u try u just cant take a spinning belt seriously.

2) the world title just sounds more prestigious than wwe title. compare the world to the wwe.

3) the world title represents in a way the wcw title as well

and last the world title goes all the way back to the early 1900's frm frank gotch to lou thesz to ed louis all the way to names like the rock, hhh, cena, edge, batista even rey mysterio

so no way anyone would want to see the WHC retired

 

[berlinbrawler]

I would be in favor or retiring the WHC (or the WWE title or unify them), but not in order to honor Edge. He's getting honored plenty. If they want to use him as an excuse for it, fine.

I don't like having only two "half-champions" instead of one undisputed one. It's almost like there is no champion at all. Better to have only one who appears on both shows.
Only problem is if the champ appears on both RAW and SD and the no. 1 contender doesn't, half the time the champ won't have anything useful to do. So I guess being the no. 1 contender would have to come with a license to go to both shows as well.
The problem with that concept is that the average viewer is confused enough as it is by the brand split. The more people they have appearing on both shows, the more confusion it will cause.

So I guess I can understand why they are sticking with the 2 half-champions concept. Too bad.

 

[FunKay the Inevitable]

Edge is going into the Hal of Fame. He's a multiple time world champion and has won more championships than anyone else in WWF/E history. He doesn't need to have the World Heavyweight Championship retired for him. At the moment that's just not practical at all and would horribly screw SmackDown over with the lack of a world championship. The World Heavyweight Championship for the WWE is essentially an extension of the NWA & WCW world titles so I highly doubt Vince would be getting rid of something he pretends/believes has such a long lineage.

 

[FSWWE]

And I must disagree with you on many well the four points you presented.

And i will disagree with you in almost everything!

The truth is this guy is the second biggest face of the WWE right now. I can disagree with you as much as I want about his actual skill set however he is doing so much in order to promote the WWE and the WWe is awarding it. You can't see he won't be the face of the WWE if he basically already is.

I get it and respect that very well! The Miz is one of the best WWE Champions that we have seen at least in 3 years!! He isnt gold on the ring, but he is good! He has is catchphrase and his particular move-sets, he has a character very well developed! So, Miz is one of the faces of WWE, alongside Cena and Orton!!

Really? I personally feel each brand needs its own major title, however I feel that WWE has done the 1 title shared thing a lot recently. Just look at the Divas and the Tag Titles. Has it been working yes.

You are the first guy that i saw here, saying that The Tag Tittles and the Divas Tittle has been working!! Are you really watching WWE? The last time I saw, since October there were 4 Divas Champion, and one of them is Brie fucking Bella, how bad are they?? OMG!
The Tag Tittles have worth? Oh god, even Santino won it with no effort and even defend it like a really badass guy!!
This point is ridiculous, man!

He is a great superstar but you are putting him at legend status which he is not. And in a few years if Edge annoys you will it tarnish his entire legacy, i doubt it so I don't know how you can say you lost all respect for Flair and Hogan.

Edge is at least better than Hogan and SCSA...
Edge have a lot, but a lot more memorable matches than every legend guy, and i really dont remember a feud that Edge had that have been bad!! OMG even Matt Hardy was GREAT against him, MATT HARDY, do you remember that Unforgiven Steel Cage Match??? The only guy i respect more than him is HBK because well he is HBK, but Edge have to be in the same level has him or very close and in the TOP5 ever!!

Wrong. There would still be a need for two brands because there are other titles then the World Titles. There was a time when there was no WHC, did WWE fail then. No.

You are wrong!
In that time, WWE was a very small company but a new concept!
(right now, you see a wrestling promotion in almost everyplace on Earth)

Do you can even see a functional WWE with only one tittle and 70 superstars in one show?
(that idea of having the champ in Two Shows is so lame that i cant see which show deserve to have a No1 Contender Superstar)
If they did that, they will destroy pretty much every chance to us see one of our mid-card Superstars that we all want to see being in the main-spot!

I.e: In my case, i am a huge McIntyre fan, and if they did that, how the hell will Drew get a World Tittle? Never in his life!!
The championship will be so fucking stupid that John Cena in 3 years could be a 20 times world champion!!
Silly Idea


About the OP, i see your point, but if they do that, they will have to present SmackDown with a new World Championship form!!
Yes, Edge deserve that, but Triple H deserves more in my opinion!! So if they do that, at least they could do with HHH!

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

And i will disagree with you in almost everything!

I will use these exact same words.

I get it and respect that very well! The Miz is one of the best WWE Champions that we have seen at least in 3 years!! He isnt gold on the ring, but he is good! He has is catchphrase and his particular move-sets, he has a character very well developed! So, Miz is one of the faces of WWE, alongside Cena and Orton!!

The Miz is average to me. Average on the mic, average in the ring.

Edge is at least better than Hogan and SCSA...
Edge have a lot, but a lot more memorable matches than every legend guy, and i really dont remember a feud that Edge had that have been bad!! OMG even Matt Hardy was GREAT against him, MATT HARDY, do you remember that Unforgiven Steel Cage Match??? The only guy i respect more than him is HBK because well he is HBK, but Edge have to be in the same level has him or very close and in the TOP5 ever!!

I guess Edge vs. Kane just slipped your mind, huh?

Edge is nowhere near Hogan and SCSA even on his best day. How many great matches has Edge had where gimmicks weren't involved. The answer is not many.

Do you can even see a functional WWE with only one tittle and 70 superstars in one show?
(that idea of having the champ in Two Shows is so lame that i cant see which show deserve to have a No1 Contender Superstar)
If they did that, they will destroy pretty much every chance to us see one of our mid-card Superstars that we all want to see being in the main-spot!

It worked pretty well during the days when you had Stone Cold, Rock, Mankind, Undertaker, HHH, Kane, and Angle as legitimate title contenders each and every year.

I.e: In my case, i am a huge McIntyre fan, and if they did that, how the hell will Drew get a World Tittle? Never in his life!!
The championship will be so fucking stupid that John Cena in 3 years could be a 20 times world champion!!

Angle got a four month title reign competing with the likes of Austin, Rock, HHH, and Undertaker so it is possible.

 

[noobmaster]

He got a great send off on 3 shows as well as videos honoring him. He'll be in the hall of fame. Having him keep the title is overkill. He wasn't the first to hold it nor did he hold it the longest.

His reign wasn't even that special until he retired. I'm not saying it wasn't special at all though, but the angle that played out for him to win it (kidnapping Paul Bearer) was down right awful. Most of the momentum for his match at WM was killed by the other events surrounding WM. His run became special the moment he retired. To retire the belt with him after a lackluster run, I would consider an insult to the other greats who held the belt.

Honor his wonderful career by putting him in the hall of fame.

 

[FSWWE]

I will use these exact same words.

Moron xD (kidding)

The Miz is average to me. Average on the mic, average in the ring.

I dont even want to know which Superstar do you cheer for!! Please dont tell me that is Jerry Lawler
The Miz is at least the TOP3 best talker of the WWE right now!

I guess Edge vs. Kane just slipped your mind, huh?

Edge is nowhere near Hogan and SCSA even on his best day. How many great matches has Edge had where gimmicks weren't involved. The answer is not many.

I kinda liked this feud and matches!! I dont know if you saw but he really smash a ball against his head (omg so funny XD)
Dont you remember their Last Man Standing Match?? Dont you remember their stupid draw? i do and he kinda make Kane look very strong again!!

It worked pretty well during the days when you had Stone Cold, Rock, Mankind, Undertaker, HHH, Kane, and Angle as legitimate title contenders each and every year.

So right now you would have, Cena, Orton, CM Punk, Big Show, Rey Mysterio, Kane and Alberto Del Rio has legitimate contenders!! How bad is that?? I want to see Drew becoming a legitimate World Champion, i want to see Swagger developing and Cody Rhodes being WWE Champ!!
This is not Attitude Era, deal with it!! Saying fuck you, is better than come fight and i will win yayyyy!!
If you say that WWE should be Rated R, well in that point i would give you that, because PG isnt working!
I like and in the begging i even defend it, but they cant book anything that looks good in the PG era!! I.e Cena vs Rock!!

Angle got a four month title reign competing with the likes of Austin, Rock, HHH, and Undertaker so it is possible.

ahaha and nobody complain?? Every single person wanted Angle dead!!!
That didnt work very well!! They cant role two shows with only a major tittle!! At least not right now!!

 

[kevberg]

retire the WHC?

HELL NO!

That belt looks so much better than that stupid spinner belt. ( the old Undisputed title looked ten times more classy than that piece of crap spinner belt)

Sorry, I don't mean disrepect to EDGE, but hes got his tribute, he'll still be around and he'll get the HOF nod.

Leave the WHC alone.

 

[PagingMr.ass]

retiring the WHC belt in honor of edge is one of the dumbest ideas i've ever heard. Sure Edge was great but no where near the most prestigest wrestler to hold the belt, lets not forget this belt existed long before wwe got their hands on it, theres too much history and more important people who have held the belt. I personally think if the belt is going to be retired in anyones honor it would be ric flair or sting, they held that belt countless times back in the day when wcw owned it. Edge doesn't register in the top 5 names of former holders, maybe you could make an argument for top 10 but not on my list.

 

[Reddog1146]

I can see where you are coming from but i would rather see a christian/del rio feud than see the title retired. there are many other ways to honor edge than retiring the WHC. Think of it as an opportunity for a rising wrestler to break through the ranks to the world title picture.

 

[DethMetal]

No man. Just no. I get being an Edgehead, but he isn't the first dude to relinquish the belt. Not even due to retirement. The dude will always be remembered as an awesome champ, but to retire the whole damn belt just because he retired?? That would be like the Lakers taking back all championship wins if Kobe retired tomorrow. It makes no sense. The belt has a history, and not to sound rude, but to get rid of all that just for one guy? Bullshit. Besides, I'm sure Edge would want the belt to stay alive. Don't let being a fan of a dude cloud all rational judgement. Edge rules, but don't retire the whole damn belt just because he's gone. Would you want them to retire the WWE title(the whole thing) if Cena retired today?

 

[klunderbunker]

....why?

Edge has had more than enough tributes and more than enough on his resume to make him into one of the most decorated wrestlers of all time. This isn't a good idea at all as it makes the title lineage even more complicated than it already is. Edge has already ridden off into the sunset like the hero that he was supposed to be and he has his legacy. No reason at all to retire the title.

 

[Dagger Dias]

Having Del Rio and Christian fight for the World Heavyweight Championship is a great way of passing the torch. But Edge won't get pinned. He never lost the title. A title he has held (I believe, but may be wrong) 9x!!!

The fact that Edge never lost the title is part of why it's great he got to end his career the way he did. As the World Champion having just retained at Wrestlemania! Also, you're off on your number of times he held the title. Edge was an 11 time world champion.... he held the WWE Championship 4 times and the World Championship 7 times.


I disagree with your idea of retiring the World Championship alongside Edge. Christian has won it and deserves it more than anybody. If they had gone through with an idea similar to yours, Christian would not be champion right now and we would only have one world title. That means half of the potential world title holders will never see a reign on top. As long as the brand extension is in place, they need a world title for each show. I totally get that you want them to honor Edge. The man deserves that. He probably handpicked Christian to be his successor. That's another way to honor him, and one that's more logical at the moment because they still need two world titles.

 

[asas96]

I look at it from the entertainment perspective. Sure, it's a tragedy that Edge had to relinquish the title, but, the show must go on.

If these were actually stories/non-kayfabe wrestling matches, then yes, retiring the belt and honoring the carrier would be needed. But this is just like storytelling, and the story has to continue.