Goldberg VS Brock at Survivor Series?

[kadroan]

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I was told Meltzer said something about the Goldberg signing on his latest show. Interesting PPV to do this match on. I figured they'd save it for WM 33.

 

[rbv13]

Doesn't seem like enough time to build it up. I would suggest having Brock vs. KO at Survivor Series. The event is dual Brand so it is an opportunity for Shane to exact revenge in the form of Goldberg. Then hold the match at the Rumble. Vince should see this as an amazing headliner in an attempt to break that Alamodome attendance record.

 

[kadroan]

Doesn't seem like enough time to build it up. I would suggest having Brock vs. KO at Survivor Series. The event is dual Brand so it is an opportunity for Shane to exact revenge in the form of Goldberg. Then hold the match at the Rumble. Vince should see this as an amazing headliner in an attempt to break that Alamodome attendance record.

Right! I guess they're trying to take advantage of the WWE 2K17 hype. I wouldn't want to see Brock vs. KO, KO can't afford a loss while champion.

 

[Loganity]

I think it's only a matter of time before Goldberg is back in WWE, if he technically hasn't signed already. The part I don't buy is it happening at Survivor Series. Why have a match of that magnitude there? Yes, it is one of the Big 4 but the Rumble, due to it being in the Alamodome, or of course WM33 feel more appropriate. Hopefully Goldberg ends the speculation when he appears on ESPN.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

Survivor Series? No.

Wrestlemania? Yes.

Goldberg's return is a big deal. You can't have Goldberg return and have him not wrestle at Wrestlemania. It's insane. And Goldberg will and should lose against Lesnar.

Best case scenario? Goldberg returns at Survivor Series like Sting did in 2014 and starts a beef with Lesnar. He wrestles his first match ever in 13 years at the Royal Rumble against Sheamus, Orton, Big Show, Wyatt or someone else star jobber, wins and then loses to Lesnar at Wrestlemania in his final match.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

I don't see a match. Would Goldberg come back to lose? Why would you have somebody who's been inactive for so long be the one to take down Brock.

And is Goldberg, a man who knows his worth, coming back for anything other than Mania.

 

[King Patrick Star]

If Bill vs. Brock is happening at Survivor Series, I would prefer it to be Team Goldberg vs. Team Lesnar. The build for the 2 captains could be based on their history, and the build for the rest of the teams could be based on current events in the WWE. Since Lesnar is a Raw SuperStar, I’d make Goldberg a Smackdown SuperStar, and incorporate a Raw vs. Smackdown theme. Now the question becomes, who will make up the teams??

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I don't see the point. Survivor Series in is Air Canada while Royal Rumble is in the Alamodome. Why waste a big gate draw on an event that is likely to sell out regardless when you have another event that needs about 50,000 more seats sold? Will the video game sales really make up that revenue?

I'm doubtful on this one. I could see WWE having Goldberg and Lesnar both appearing or competing at Survivor Series but not against each other.

Plus, what is the can reaction going to be like for this, especially in Toronto? They pride themselves on being alternatives. Who do you cheer for in this type of match? The bad memories of 13 years ago make me wonder if it is worth the time to care.

 

[King Patrick Star]

If Bill vs. Brock is happening at Survivor Series, I would prefer it to be Team Goldberg vs. Team Lesnar. The build for the 2 captains could be based on their history, and the build for the rest of the teams could be based on current events in the WWE. Since Lesnar is a Raw SuperStar, I’d make Goldberg a Smackdown SuperStar, and incorporate a Raw vs. Smackdown theme. Now the question becomes, who will make up the teams??

I also want to add, that this Team Goldberg vs. Team Lesnar match could add to the build for a possible upcoming one-on-one match at WrestleMania. I’d even have them eliminate each other in the Royal Rumble match, just to build it up even more.

 

[OYDK]

So this is a thing again. I have no clue why Survivor Series is even being discussed for this match. If WWE really wants to break the Alomodome attendance record, this is their best chance to do it, and it also gives these guys options for Wrestlemania other than each other. You don't need this match to draw people to Mania, last year showed us that. But if you want to draw 70,000+ to the Rumble, you absolutely need something of this magnitude. I don't know about anybody else, but I would much rather see Goldberg/Brock at the Rumble and than have, for instance, Goldberg/Roman and Brock/Owens or Styles or whoever at Wrestlemania.

There is of course, as others have pointed out, the problem with actually booking this match. In hindsight, Goldberg should be another guy to feed to Brock. I don't necessarily like that line of thinking, but logically, he should not be the guy to get the rub (so to speak) of defeating Lesnar. But everybody knows Goldberg has a problem with losing. If this match were to take place, there's a 95% chance that it ends in some sort of bullshit, dusty finish.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I don't see a match. Would Goldberg come back to lose? Why would you have somebody who's been inactive for so long be the one to take down Brock.

And is Goldberg, a man who knows his worth, coming back for anything other than Mania.

This is exactly how I see it.

If Goldberg ultimately becomes the guy to definitively beat Brock Lesnar since his return to WWE, I think it'd look like a gigantic pecker slap to the face of the entire collective roster.

If such a match goes down, it'll most likely be at WrestleMania. I was never a fan of Goldberg, but I know the guy's name value and having him appear for the first time wrestling a match in well over a decade is something that practically screams to be at the biggest wrestling show of the year. I also agree with the notion that it seems unlikely that Goldberg would want to lose his match, it'll take a few more zeros on his paycheck to even get him to consider it.

 

[Vanilla Midget]

I doubt we see Brock in WWE until 2017. Goldberg at Survivor Series wouldn't be surprising. If he's coming back to face Brock again, there's a lot of logic behind having Goldberg return and pick up a victory first.

Unless they swerve, we're not going to see Brock get pinned until WrestleMania 34 when his contract runs out. If he renews, it may be years yet before Brock is ever pinned. I don't think they want to repeat Sting by having Goldberg return and lose before he wins, on the outside chance his body doesn't hold up.

If they do compete at Survivor Series, it may feel kind of rushed. Although when they did Brock vs Undertaker in 2015 at SummerSlam, Taker on returned at the event before. So a returning Goldberg and Lesnar would have basically the same amount of TV time to build as that feud.

Lesnar vs Goldberg has the history behind it. Brock would want to avenge his loss and both would want to prove they could actually work a match together. Maybe that's something they could work into the angle?

Is a longer build to Goldberg vs Brock better than a short one? Maybe WWE has different ideas for both of them at WrestleMania 33? There are other ways to have the match but not have either lose, which is crap, but you're dealing with WWE's biggest and most marketable star on an over two year unpinned streak.

You're also dealing with the biggest WCW star of 1998 returning and needing to build some momentum. It would be better for everyone if Goldberg returns to a divisive victory, so I would save Lesnar vs Goldberg for a later date, but not WrestleMania 33.

 

[Gavschenko]

Only reason i could think that this takes place at survivor series is because ufc 205 is in november and that is such a massive card and vince is bound to be fuming that its at msg which he thinks is basically his home, and hes afraid nobody will watch survivor series as tbh the last few years its lost all appeal only thing worth talking about last few years is stings debut.

 

[ztwhite]

It's been a while since WWE held a match back for the grandest stage of them all.

I never thought we would see Cena vs. A.J. so quickly, and we saw them go for the first time at MITB. We also had The Shield fight each other at Battleground.

For some reason, it seems like WWE's booking is all about the next PPV up, rather than looking 3 or 4 PPV's ahead.

If Goldberg vs. Brock goes down at Survivor Series, I would fully expect Goldberg to face someone like The Undertaker at WM, even though rumors are swirling that Cena will face Taker at Mania.

But there are a lot of options on the table for Goldberg moving forward, and not just with Lesnar. Cena, Stlyes, The Rock, Reigns, Ambrose, KO, Samoa Joe, etc... That's a LOT of PPV quality matches in the future.

 

[Radical Canadian Goose]

The fans in Toronto will boo this match like none other. Being someone who is going to Survivor Series, I think it is too small of a stage for this match, and given the history with fans in Toronto, the match whether good or abysmal, will not give it any respect. Save it for Rumble or Mania, where seats are needed to be filled.

 

[Navi]

You guys are forgetting this is the 30th anniversary of Survivor Series, and it's longevity is only beaten by Wrestlemania. Maybe just maybe the WWE is going to pull out all the stops on the Road to Wrestlemania this year. They are trying to sell 75k for the Rumble, and this is a good start.

They didn't need to put on a match of this size here in Toronto, the tickets sold out within the first two minutes, but as someone who is going to SS this year, I'm thrilled.

Don't know how the Canadian crowd will react, most likely they will go crazy. Even if Goldberg does show up and loses it sets up many matches going forward into Mania. Just because he's rumoured to be here doesn't mean he can't be at the Rumble either. I mean shit who else is there for Lesnar to face, he's gone through the roster as it stands, bringing Goldberg in to finally take down the Beast is a great idea.

 

[Loveless]

So much of this is confusing and makes no sense

Why would Goldberg come back?
Why would WWE want him?
Why Survivor Series?
Would Lesnar accept a loss?

My feelings right now is that this is setting up a series of 1-off challengers who arrive trying to take down Lesnar, which will all fail until Wrestlemania and a surprise challenger.

 

[rge2010]

There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Brock vs Goldberg will happen at Survivor Series. Yes it looks like Goldberg has signed with WWE but maybe it is just to make an appearance and start a program leading up to a match between the two at Mania?

Sting did the very same two years ago at Survivor Series.

 

[rge2010]

So much of this is confusing and makes no sense

Why would Goldberg come back?
Why would WWE want him?
Why Survivor Series?
Would Lesnar accept a loss?

My feelings right now is that this is setting up a series of 1-off challengers who arrive trying to take down Lesnar, which will all fail until Wrestlemania and a surprise challenger.

Money.
Money.
Money.
Lesnar doesn't give a dam. Just money.

 

[King Patrick Star]

For those who don’t care to see Goldberg vs. Lesnar, you will get your WrestleMania Owens vs. Styles main event, just relax. For those of us who do care and want to see these two redeem themselves from their WrestleMania XX match, let’s get excited about the possibilities. It's a win - win for everyone involved. It's not like if Goldberg vs. Lesnar takes place on the Grandest Stage Of Them All, they will close the Showcase Of The Immortals...right??

Personally, I would have rather seen WWE Champion, Brock Lesnar vs. World Heavyweight Champion, Bill Goldberg back in 2003, than WWE Universal Champion, Kevin Owens vs. WWE World Champion, A.J. Styles in 2016.

So would these teams work??

Team Raw - Kevin Owens, Roman Reigns, the New Day (Kofi Kingston and Big E), and a mystery partner (w/ Xavier Woods)
vs.
Team Smackdown - A. J. Styles, the Miz, Rhyno, Heath Slater, and a mystery partner (w/ Maryse)

The mystery partners, of course, being Brock Lesnar and Goldberg, respectively.

Wait a minute. Maybe we are all looking at this the wrong way. Back in the old video game, Raw 2 for the XBOX, I made Brock Lesnar the WWE Champion and Goldberg the World Champion. I also made them the WWE and World Tag Team Champions…together. What if the WWE decides to make Lesnar and Goldberg a dominating Tag Team!? Who can stop them!? With Paul Heyman in their corner, I think they could hold both the Raw and Smackdown Tag Team Championship Title Belts for years, even in 2016.

 

[Kodo Sawaki]

Dunno why people even want this one. I mean, sure, two great superstars sounds great but both are part timers with nothing to get from it. Goldberg cant afford to lose in his first match and having him to defeat unbeatanable Lesnar is a waste. Lesnar has revenge for last (maybe worst "big" match at Wrestlemania ever) loss but other then that it doesnt add to his power to beat 50 year old man. Huge match and it would draw good, but there are better uses for both of them.

 

[TDFG]

If WWE is planning on having this match at Survivor Series then not only would it be ridiculously rushed but I hope Goldberg is on the Hafthor Bjornsson diet.

Bill Goldberg is walking around at the minute probably at Cruiserweight.

Do I have an interest in this match, not really. It shows WWE is still happy to go back to legends who wrestle part-time facing off against each other to sell PPV's.

How do they expect fans to take Reigns, Owens, Rollins etc. seriously when they won't give them the matches they need.

 

[WorstWrestlingExcrement]

Survivor Series? No.

Wrestlemania? Yes.

Goldberg's return is a big deal. You can't have Goldberg return and have him not wrestle at Wrestlemania. It's insane. And Goldberg will and should lose against Lesnar.

Best case scenario? Goldberg returns at Survivor Series like Sting did in 2014 and starts a beef with Lesnar. He wrestles his first match ever in 13 years at the Royal Rumble against Sheamus, Orton, Big Show, Wyatt or someone else star jobber, wins and then loses to Lesnar at Wrestlemania in his final match.

So you want GOLDBERG to return to job to Lesner? You are contradicting yourself if GOLDBERG is a big deal he should return and win not lose and have his image tarnished like STING did! Remember he beat Lesner their first time so for GOLDBERG to return just to lose is meaningless!

 

[WorstWrestlingExcrement]

If GOLDBERG does sign cause he is very demanding and picky he ll want a pay per appearance or wrestle part time like Brock Lesner and Dwayne Johnson have cause he won't have a gruelling full time schedule and he will examine it carefully cause he sure doesn't want a repeat of Steve Borden who tarnished his image and legacy and jobbed in 2 ppv's he wants his image to have value and not tarnish his image. I don't see him jobbing and he is close to 50 yo if any TNA can take him and have a great match against Bobby Lashley , Moose etc

 

[ShinChan]

As much as I loved Goldberg back, I don't want to see Goldberg Vs. Lesnar anytime in future.

People are again happy for nostalgia purpose from this match but I don't wana see two big wrestlers fight each other.

Goldberg doesn't need a win over Lesnar.
Lesnar doesn't need a win over Goldberg. So why to have it?

Instead of it, better have these two face different opponents. Opponents which are young and talented so as to elevate them. My same problem was with Brock Vs Undertaker II & III.