General Survivor Series 2007 Discussion

So with just over a week to Survivor Series and they haven't made anymore matches yet? What about building matches on Smackdown? I think for sure were eithr going to see a filler Women's Survivor Series match. Or maybe a tag on.

I hope it's a tag version. The majority of WWE's women wrestlers are just models. But while WWE don't promote tag teams properly they still have plenty of talented wrestlers.

Agreed. Inter-promotional Women's 5-on-5 AND an Inter-promotional Tag Team. It's a quick way to get both struggling divisions on a major PPV.

I had a thought last night while the Orton / Michaels face to face was putting me to sleep. Michaels mentioned submitting Orton. How crazy would it be if, on the 10-year anniversary of the Montreal Screwjob, Michaels made Orton submit to the Sharpshooter? Or vice versa for a measure of revenge? Sounds fun to me..
 
I really don't think that the Screwjob will be mentioned at all. It's one of those thing that you think they simply must make mention of. But I believe it'll just come and go without so much as a mention on TV.

I can't see the tag team S.S. match being made now. I think it was either a choice between that and a womens one. It's a shame because the tag division in WWE would be pretty good if all the teams were spread over the three brands. Despite some of the silly gimmicks some have, the majority are pretty good. Although that match would get zero heat.
 
Its a shame that they aren't adding any more matches, because two (the women's match and the Hornswoggle/Khali match) are just going to terribly blow lol. We've seen Punk/Morrison/Miz enough lately, so it won't be anything great. That leaves THREE matches worth watching, but even though I love HBK, I have to look outside the box and say the most exciting thing about that match with Orton will simply be the outcome and not the match itself.

I still think we should've had a tag team turmoil match. The seeds have been planted to have Londrick take the belts away from Cade and Murdoch, so jump on it before the general audience forgets the division even exists.
 
WWE Championship: Randy Orton vs Shawn Michaels
--I don't think anybody expects HBK to win this match anymore unless he uses the sharpshooter or RKO to get the pin. Chances are, he'll get disqualified and lose the shot or someone else will get Randy disqualified so he'll retain, as that's not specifically stated to make him lose the belt. I could definitely see them trying to fulfill the "no title switch until the third or fourth win" rule they've had lately, albeit how freaking annoying that is, and having HBK lose the title shot but win the Royal Rumble and beat Orton at Wrestlemania for the title. I don't really think the feud can last that long, though, and I hope to hell that Michaels wins the belt, but I can't see it happening.
WINNER: Winner can differ, but Orton will retain somehow.

WHC Hell in a Cell: Batista vs Undertaker
--I'd be very, very shocked to see Batista retain. Hopefully, Undertaker wins the title and Edge runs in to steal it, starting their feud, but first having a triple threat at Armageddon. Taker was in line for a long reign and I think the whole reasoning for this being a HIAC match is to have Undertaker win but not make Batista look too weak.
WINNER: The Undertaker

S.S. Elimination: Team HHH vs Team Umaga
--Come on. Like Team Umaga is REALLY going to win this? Lol. Give me a break. Matt Hardy will be eliminated early on, maybe by MVP, because of that whole injury angle they want to work in. Kane and Big Daddy V will get themselves counted out or something. Jeff will eliminate MVP probably. Finlay and Mysterio will go at it...again....ugh....for a while and Mysterio will eliminate him. Kennedy gets Mysterio out maybe. Blah blah blah, Triple H gets the final pin on Umaga. There's one thing that I'm really, really, desperately hoping does NOT happen in this match, and that's a multiple-619. That move is the stupidest one they have right now in terms of how believable the setup is. Not only is it a stretch that one guy just hangs on the second rope like that, but if they go so far as to have him do it to 5 guys, I think I'll want to puke lol.
WINNER: Team HHH

Diva Tag Team: Faces vs Heels
--Nobody cares, haha. Beth will win the match for her side. Since this is a tag team match and not an elimination, I don't think she'll finish Mickie off for the pin, but rather, probably someone like Kelly Kelly.
WINNER: Beth Phoenix and company

Crap Fest: Hornswoggle vs Khali
--Five minutes of Hornswoggle running underneath Khali's legs after there's a 4 minute entrance to cover Khali walking down to the ring like Frankenstein and Hornswoggle pacing around scrunching his face up.
WINNER: Me, if this is the last we ever see of these two.

ECW Championship: CM Punk vs John Morrison vs The Miz
--Now that Miz and Morrison are the tag team champions, this has suddenly gotten a little more interesting. Creative hopefully wasn't stupid enough to try to go from the "dysfunctional Hardy/MVP" tag team to "the dysfunctional Morrison/Miz" tag team, so they'll have to work together in this match. Who gets the pin? Probably CM Punk capitalizing on some mistake Morrison makes or something. Scenario for example, Miz holds CM Punk, Morrison goes for a kick, Punk ducks, Miz is knocked out, Punk throws Morrison outside of the ring and pins Miz to retain. Not the best ending, and certainly not the one I'd want as its a little too blase, but it'll probably happen.
WINNER: CM Punk

Tag Team Championship: Cade & Murdoch vs Rhodes & Holly
--See, here's a knot in the rope. If Miz and Morrison lose their match due to tag team dispute, MVP and Matt Hardy were always having disputes as a tag team, Holly and Rhodes aren't a cohesive tag team yet, AND Cade/Murdoch have been arguing lately, creative must just have hit the "copy/paste" on their tag team division. Cade and Murdoch don't have the pull with the audience to justify them continuing as the champs but they can't win without either making Rhodes look like a chump or Holly look like his teacher role is out of line and he's washed up. However, Rhodes and Holly can't win the match due to a fault in Cade/Murdoch, because that'll be too reminiscent of the other 3 tag teams going on. If Rhodes and Holly lose, their storyline is thrown a wrench that might screw the whole angle, if Cade/Murdoch lose then their loss is just two days shy of the other tag team losing their titles in the same spirits (and the potential of Miz/Morrison screwing up their ECW match, which would make it 3 of the same concept in two days time). If this was Londrick instead of Rhodes/Holly, I'd say Londrick would get the clean pin, but now I don't know.
WINNER: Not sure. It could go either way.

[As far as the ppv goes, I think everyone will be saying the same thing come Monday: It was boring except for the top three matches, but the outcome of the HBK match was stupid and the Hell in a Cell match could've been better. Hopefully I'm wrong and everyone starts blowing a load from it being the best ppv in a while, but what are the chances lol.]
 
PUSHED ENTER QUICKY BY MISTAKE - LET ME TRY AGAIN!!


BATISTA -VS- UNDERTAKER
(winner: Double pinfall, Draw, Belt Vacant!!)

I'm hoping for the Undertaker to win but for him on Smackdown coming right out saying "Batista, you will lose the World Title" I was like "NO YOU DOPE DON'T SAY THAT" now Batista's gonna win which I was now leaning towards, but then I forgot something or should I say someone, EDGE!!. He hates both, he dosen't want neither as champ, & he wants the belt back, so what could they do?? How's about him (Edge) returns breaks into the Cell with his chainsaw, clobbers both men & puts both Tista & Takers arms over each others, all shoulders down for the 3 count. Edge steals what is now a Vacant World Title and Vickie makes a 3 Way or a Tournament that leads to Armageddon.

RANDY ORTON -VS- SHAWN MICHAELS
(winner: Randy Orton)

I don't know how he'll do it, either Orton cheats or HBK gets screwed with the possiblity of Vince interfering, but once again after the match is over HBK will get the Sweet Chin Musin in there somewhere.

TEAM HHH -VS- TEAM UMAGA
(winner: Team HHH)

This is a tough call, the person to look out for on Umaga's team is Kennedy, he's one of the top heel superstars on RAW & there's a possible chance he could be the survivor so that this could give him something to talk about on RAW (meaning something else he's accomplished) & put him into possibly main event status -BUT- I think I'm going to stick with my choice HHH Team only because there making them out be a team with no chance because Umagas team being all set & healthy while the The Hardy Boyz are supposely banged up & Normally the team with less chance finds a way.

CM PUNK -VS- THE MIZ -VS- JOHN MORRISON
(winner: CM Punk)

Miz & Morrison got the last laugh on ECW & they are now Tag Champs so all of that pretty much sums it up.

TEAM PHOENIX -VS- TEAM MICKIE
(winner: Team Mickie)

Whoever gets the pin in this match on any of Beth's team or Beth Phoenix herself will probably be next in line for the Women's Title possibly leading to Armageddon. If I'm wrong & if Beth's team wins then that possibly could mean that Candice Michelle is returning soon & shes getting her rematch.

GREAT KAHLI -VS- HORNSWOGGLE
(winner: Hornswoggle)

C''MON Why on earth would they make this match for?? It would be a waste of PPV time to see that little bastard get thrown around. Nope somethings gotta be up in this match, maybe a surprise or 2 maybe more??. HAVE WE ALL FORGOTEN, HORNSWOGGLE IS A MCMAHON NOW!!. If by some chance he can get his dad out of that arena or maybe if he does stay, Just like when he helped John Cena by not having him forfeit the WWE belt, he can reverse the descions & make a new match, someone to take his place dressed like him (hornswoggle) or maybe alot of other superstars can get involved maybe Mick Foley, maybe an Extreme Gauntlet who knows!!! all I'm saying is that this match can change or have a surprising twist in it.

CADE & MURDOCK -VS- CODY & HOLLY
(winners: Cade & Murdock)

I don't know why
 
Undertaker vs. Batista:

Should be good. Batista's only other great match was in a cell. I can't see Taker losing by pinfall on two straight shows. I hadn't thought about a double pin like the pister above said. But it would lead to E.C. match at Armageddon which I think they need to sell this show. So that's my opinion changed to double count out/pin.

Randy Orton vs. Shawn Michaels:

Don't care for either. But HBK can still work. I just find him boring as a face. No way is Orton losing though. Not until Mania. They need to keep the title on him for a while. Cena bought prestige to the belt again, and that was undone several times over at No Mercy. Orton wins. The stiplulation wouldn't be in place otherwise.

C.M. Punk vs. The Miz vs. John Morrison:

The problem with Punk winning is who will he face after. He will have gone through all of ECW's main superstars. Really not sure of the outcome. They could be doing another feuding partners storyline like MVP & Hardy. Or Morrison has just been demoted. Really not sure.

Team Triple H vs. Team Umaga:

HHH will win. The only question is how many of his teamates will survive with him?

Team Mickie vs. Team Phoenix:

Mickie gets the pin over Phoenix. New feud made. Pretty simple.

The Great Khali vs. Hornswoggle:

Either a Khlai face turn. Which I think is more likley. Or Hornswoggle demolishing. He's vanishes and never returns. Khali as a face won't work. Unless they reform The Oddities.

Cade & Murdock vs. Cody Rhodes & Hardcore Holly:

Cade & Murdock win. Holly is supposed to be teaching Rhodes. So they lose and come back another day. That sounds logical to me.

Overall a bad card. Several of the matches will get little heat. Some aren't worthy of a big 4 PPV. It's basically just the two main events that are going to sell this thing.
 
Undertaker vs. Batista:
Well this was the match we were supposed to get at Judgment Day, so it's 6 months in the making, are you excited... Any who, I like the EC idea that is being floated around, but the WWE is naive enough to think that the return of Jericho and Jericho's first match on PPV is going to sell that pay per view on it's own. I would love to see an EC on Smackdown, because Smackdown's talent might actually be able to pull it off as compared to Raw or ECW, but the Cell is finality. Taker wins this, setting up either the road to Wrestlemania with Edge or Umaga.

Shawn Michaels vs. Randy Orton:
Stipulations galore!!! And some people complain about TNA's old guys and gimmick matches, but i digress. Anywho, this match can go in one of a million different directions. I think HBK needs a heel turn myself. And the screw job of course is going to get brought into this match, it's just who gets screwed.

Now if HBK wins, I can see the heel turn leading to a match with Jericho at WM for the title. I would much rather see this than the alternative, Orton vs. Triple H. At least Jericho and Michaels would be able to put on a good main event quality match, while Triple H and Orton will break down to Rest Holds and Posing, both suck so much ass anymore.

I'm hoping for an HBK win, but getting the bad, bad feeling Orton takes it.

CM Punk vs. the Miz vs. Johnny Nitro, Morrion, Blaze
Well lets throw the Miz out right away, oh wait, we can't , it is the WWE we're talking about. The Miz has a shot, but a very slim shot. NMB is most likely going to win this thing. He's the most undeserving and worst world champion the WWE has had this year, and that includes Batista and Khali. So instead of sticking with Punk, Punk get's moved to Smackdown or Raw and gets lost in the midcard. JNMB wins this match.

Team Triple H vs. Team Umaga.
Hasn't anyone figured out, the WWE doesn't need saving, the savior has been here since summerslam, Shovel in hand. So either all of team Triple H wins, or it becomes 5 on 1 with Triple H over coming the odds and leaving everyone buried in 6 feet of dirt.

Team Phoenix vs. Team Mickie:
Bathroom break part 1. Hopefully this isn't an elimination match, because anyone unfortunate to buy this pay per view is going to demand refunds. James over Phoenix, hopefully in a 30 second match.

Khali vs. Hornswoggle:
Bathroom Break Part 2. I can give to shits. Hopefully Khali crushes and destroys Horny so the McBastard angle goes away.

Cade and Murdoch vs. Rhodes and Holly:
Surprisingly, the guy with the least amount of talent and heat in the ring is Holly, go figure. The guys a bum and sticking any gold on him is a very, very bad idea. It's a shame that Cade and Murdoch have no one good to feud with .

Looks to be yet another WWE craptacular this year. They wonder why ppv buy rates are down and the UFC's are skyrocketing. It's bullshit booking like this on a big 4 pay per view that kills the WWE. They have no one to blame but themselve.
 
TEAM SANTINO ( finlay, kennedy, mvp, umaga, big daddy V)
VS.
TEAM AUSTIN ( mysterio, jeff and matt hardy, triple H, Kane)
-At the end austin stuns them all!!

World tag team championship on the line
the hillybillys vs. cody & holly vs. WGTT vs. londrick!!
-WGTT wins it, and will have a feud against cody holly!!

SABOTAGE MATCH!!
hornswaggle vs. the great khali
-hornswaggle wins the match by the help of the returning big show!!

TEAM PHOENIX ( Beth, victoria, melina, layla, jillian hall)
vs.
TEAM MICKIE (mickie, Michelle McCool, torrie wilson, maria, kelly kelly)
-team mickie wins it and star a new feud between mickie and phoenix!

FATAL FOUR WAY ECW CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH (hardcore rules)
CM punk vs. john Morrison vs. the miz vs. tommy dreamer
-tommy dreamer wins it and he brings back the real spirit of EC fuckin W!!!!!!

WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH (hell in a cell)
Batista vs. the undertaker
-edge will return and spear those two!!! and again steal the gold!!!!

WWE championship match (with stipulation)
ORton vs. HBK
-orton will win via screwjob,, vince is at ring side and will forced the ref to ring the bell!!!!!!!!

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WWE championship match (with stipulation)
ORton vs. HBK
-orton will win via screwjob,, vince is at ring side and will forced the ref to ring the bell!!!!!!!!


Yes Orton must win by screwjob, I agree. How specifically it happens is what I would remember this match for and WWE could redeem itself for poor programming.

Have bret sitting ringside to act as a distraction. He doesn't have to do anything other than sit there maybe in a disguise. The announcers can't mention he's there until mid match. He only has to stand up and exchange words with shawn from his seat.

This would cause randy to either get the roll up pin, RKO or maybe even sweet chin music for the win.


WWE needs to hire me, asap! :)
 
This Survivor Series is average at best. HIAC will probably be motn, espicailly if edge gets invloved. I suspect that Orton will win but hope their is some type of screw job. The ECW match has potential as long as The Miz is limited. Im hoping that the diva tag is good and that Layla, Torrie, Maria, & Kelly are limited and that Melina & Michelle get to shine. In all I would give the card a disapotinted C-. Khali vs. Hornswoggle, tag team match, are not "big 4" worthy sad the elimnation chamber has promise.
 
Undertaker vs. Batista:
This is the only real draw on the card, the HITC is a match of its own, Batista is shit but I still think the match will be good, Taker is a god when it comes to this match and other gimmicks so I expect him to carry the load. Although I doubt we get any big spot, just the regular with steps, the cage, maybe a table. Other than that. Not much. Since Edge is returning I see him screwing the World Champion which would be Tista with Taker picking up the win and a Triple Threat at Armageddon.

Randy Orton vs Shawn Michaels:
I really don't care about this match or feud. WWE doing another crappy book job with the stipulation. During the match I feel like I'm watching TNA with the announcers bitching constantly about HBk not being able to use his finisher. Either way it won't matter. Orton will get the win then move on to feud with Trips. Screwjob will not be mentioned.

Team Trips vs Team UmaNga:
Only thing that interests me in Mr Kennedy and MVP being on the same team, sad thing is they will likely be the first 2 superstars eliminated...Hmmm..Seems like typical WWE. Vince shits himself win faces overcome the odds. WWE buried the fuck out of the heels last year, I'm hoping they get a win here but after all it is Trip's team. So No. Triple H wins down 3-1 in a good match with some good wrestling and spots.

Pumpkin vs Miz vs Morrison:
*Yawn* I don't really care.

A)If WWE wants to push Morrison to the sky then he will get the title tonight by pinning Miz.

B)If they want to do the smart thing and give Punk a longer reign. Then he'll win.

I'll go with choice B in an OK match.

Hornswoggle vs Khali:
Boring, it's just for comedy. It might be funny but doubtful. Waste of time. Snoozer.

Rednecks vs Ric Flair and Carlito...Oops, I mean Holly and Rhodes:
Boring, I couldn't care less. I'll use this for a snack break. Cade and Doch have nobody else to face so WWE is forced to rush the storyline of Rhodes/Holly and turning them into champions. Holly/Rhodes win in a snooze.

The other match is a diva's match. Which is equal to shit.

Similar to what the PPV could end up like. The only things interesting are Edge returning, The HITC and Team Trips vs UmaNga because of all the talent in the same ring. 3 matches cannot save a PPV so I'm sure it will just be the WWE regular, Shame is it's one of the Top 4 PPV's.
 
I only wish that the HIAC match would've seen Edge interfere after a finish took place. I understand that Edge was a must to be re-established into a feud with Dave/Taker but I was hoping to see Dave out of the picture. To see Edge spear and demolish Taker after he won the belt in a classic would've ended the show on a higher note IMO. If I was in the seats tonight I would've been pissed.
 
I was in the seats tonight and I really enjoyed the end of the show. The traditional survior series match sucked. The place was dead hbk/orton until the end, although it got really tense everytime a position got on and a dead silence when the crippler crossface got put on. The ECW match stole the show and the spots were phenomenal. The divas match got the biggest pops besides edge, especially the kiss. But the greatest dissapointment was the lack of a dark match, and I called Shane O'Mac!
 
Alright, looks like I'm gonna get to be the first one to post my thoughts on Survivor Series. Unless someone else is also writing something right now and beats me to the punch. Oh no, I'm wasting time right now. Anyways:

Punk vs. Miz vs. Morrison- It was short, but damn was it good. I saw more outta The Miz in one match then I've seen from him in the past year. Now if he can just keep that up, he may have a chance of ppl hating him less. A slight chance. Not the least bit suprised by Punk retaining. With the new MNM (Miz 'n Morrison, get it?) as the tag champs, and Big Daddy V fueding with Kane, I don't know where Punk goes from here. Burke again? Rematch with Noble? Who knows. this match gets 8.5/10 from me, only because it could've been longer.

10 Diva Tag Match- Not as bad as I thought it would be. Short Thankfully. No one embarrassed themself in the match, and they at least all had good energy. Plus Mickie locked lips with Melina. So that automatically boosts this match from adequate to pretty good. and hot. 6/10. finish gets 20/10.

Holly&Rhodes vs. Cade&Murdoch for the Tag Team Titles- good place for this match. Right between the two ten-person matches. This match told the Holly Rhodes story pretty well. I wish they had shown a bit more chemistry though, like one or two double team maneuvers. Cade and Murdoch were good as usual. That Modified Canadian destroyer just looked absolutely devasting. Does Trevor have his own name for that? If not, then I'm calling it the Appalachian Destroyer. 5.5/10 with a bonus point for the sick move by the big guy, so 6.5/10.

Classic Survivor Series Elimination Match- Liked the pre-match promo with Team Trips. Very funny w/o having to be outlandish. Jeff Hardy really needs to work on the mic skills still though. He's a step above Lashley, a step below his Orton. So the way I see it, if gets to be about Orton's level on the mic, he should be able to break into the main event. He's close though. And it showed in the match. For some reason, I really wasn't suprised that Jeff survived with HHH at the end. Lashley survived with Cena last year, and then a month later won the ECW title. Could big things be in the horizon for Jeff?
This match got better the less people were in it. Wish Big Daddy V had gotten out first. Just looking at him makes me dizzy. If I had to look at him up close and personal, I think I'd hurl. They made Kennedy, MVP, and Kane look like chumps. But in this type of match, it's bound to happen to a few people. I don't know why they would have Kennedy and MVP be eliminated before Finlay or V. Those two aren't going anywhere, but MVP and Kennedy are supposed to be the future of the company. Really liked the finished with Hardy getting the pin. I think HHH legitimately likes Jeff, and that's good for him. Things clearly aren't over between HHH and Umaga. Looks like Jeff may play a part in their rivalry soon. 7/10

Khali vs. Hornswoggle- This was just a waste of time. But I can't lie- I love the little guy. He looks like my little cousin with facial hair. Anyways, why was Shane there? And why didn't Vince just let Shaq in the ring? Good to see that Finlay hasn't forgotten about his little friend. But where is that gonna go on Smackdown? Is Finlay turning face? Is he coming to RAW? Was this just a way to end the match? Who knows. 3/10

Randy Orton vs. Shawn Michaels- Not quite up to the expectations that I had. I understood the point of the restholds early on, with HBK trying to provr his in-ring abilities to Orton, but that headlock lasted like five minutes at least! Business picked up later on though. I figured we would see the Sharpshooter tonight, but I thought it was gonna be an allusion to the Screwjob with McMahon coming down and making the ref call for the bell. This did not happen though, and in Hindsight I'm glad. I never though we'd see the crippler crossface in the WWE again, and definately not this soon. Was it in bad taste? I don't think so. But I'm not sure what the point was that WWE was trying to make. I really thought that Orton would tap to the Ankle Lock as a shot at Angle, maybe regretting that they let Angle go over Michaels at WM 21. To be honest, every time that HBK went for a well known submission maneuver, I thought he had it. I was really disappointed that Orton retained, although not entirely suprised. Knew he'd hit Sweet Chin Music after the match. All in all, good enough. Fun Match to watch, really suspenseful for the viewers, as long as you're not a total pessimist. 8/10

Hell in a Cell- This match was pretty brutal.Some sick spots. I actually started applauding when Batista took out the table. I could not beleive that Batista KICKED OUT OF THE TOMBSTONE PILEDRIVER!!! Has anyone ever done that before? Not as far back as I can remember. A little shorter than I thought it would be. I cheered when my boy Edge showed up outta nowhere. I thought he was gonna show up after the match and Taker had won with the tombstone on the steps. I liked it nevertheless. Gives Edge some intense heat. I was sad to see that he looked a little bit bloated. But that might have been the shirt. Can't wait to see him back in the ring. Match gets 9/10. Edge gets 10/10.

Overall, a better PPV than what we've seen lately. Although None of the storylines got tied up nicely, although they rarely do at SSeries. Still think the Hornswoggle/Khali match brought down the show a bit. Still, I give it a 7/10, okay 7.5/10 cause the show ended with my boy Edge. Now lets here your thoughts on the show.
 
From what I've seen so far, and keep in mind, I've only read the results.. but it looks like Survivor Series turned out nicely. Although, it wasn't the 10th anniversary of the infamous screw job I was expecting.. I was kind of hoping to see HBK get screwed by Vince or something.. and was kind of surprised [pleasantly maybe? even though I love HBK] to see Orton walk out with title..

and of course, I was glad to see Edge make his return, even if it was just the expected run-in. I wasn't sure if he'd go after 'taker or Batista though. Guess it only made sense to have him go after 'taker in the end. Now i'm ready for Y2J.

I'll have to physically watch the traditional survivor series match to give an extensive opinion. I really miss the Survivor Series of old that really had all traditional elimination matches. And especially the really old ones when the survivors of each time fought in the main event. On that note, is it just me or is Jeff Hardy getting a lot of positive attention. And maybe starting to give the IC title some much deserved credibility? I read on WZ that HBK had said he wouldn't mind doing something with Hardy, we saw the two team a couple weeks ago, he was one of the soul survivors with Triple H tonight, etc. It's about time though if you ask me, Jeff is one of the best faces on RAW right now, he just needs a little mic work.

I'm sure the women's match was mediocre at best, just some eye candy time filler. Although I am starting to like Beth Phoenix, maybe she can bring some credibility back to the women's strap.

Hornswoggle/Khali was exactly what I expected. Should be interesting to see how they follow up with Finlay.
 
I could not beleive that Batista KICKED OUT OF THE TOMBSTONE PILEDRIVER!!! Has anyone ever done that before? Not as far back as I can remember.

Kane kicked out of two in one match.

Triple threat match- This was my favorite match of the night. Punk and Morrison had some great spots and really made me want to watch the match. The miz suprised me by not briging this match down. This was a good way to kick off the show and it got my hopes up for the rest of the night.

Women's match-I only saw part of it. It was nice that Melina could laugh at herself after her fall. From the parts I saw it looked like a decent match. The heel team was stacked with actuall wrestlers, I thought they were going to win easy.

Tag titles- Cody and Hardcore are far from where they need to be as a team. They ahve no chemistry. Cade and Murdoch on the hand seem to get better all the time. Murdoch impressed me with his finisher.

Classic SS match- Another one I only saw part of. The pre match interview was decent. I don't know why they didn't replace Matt. The parts of the match I saw were pretty decent. I thought the end was good. I'm glad Jeff got the pin. He and HHH had good chemistry.

Hornswoggle vs Khali- I thought this was going to be more entertaining. There was a lot of filler here and it seemed pointless for shane to be there. The run in by Finlay raises questions about his status as a heel. I don't think this "match" affected the PPV though

HBK vs Orton- This was mostly slow and boring. I expected too much out of this, at least a good finish would have been nice. HBK was down way too long after the RKO. I thought Orton lost a tooth there for a while. Looked like HBK's knee was bothering him. I was suprised to see the crippler crossface.

Hell in a cell- this match was better than expected for me. The undertaker dominated quite a bit. I was waitn impatiently all night to see Edge and when he came out I was happy. He put on weight. I thought he was going to pin the winner after the match.

Overall I think it was a good PPV. It lacked a few people WGTT, Elijah Burke, but it wasn't a let down
 
Uh I am sorry this was not a good PPV it was average at best, just because it just felt like some of the endings to the matches was so sloppy, people pay money for results not a bunch of DQ ending matches, hell we can see that for free on the weekly shows Raw and Smacksown, I am still confused with the entire Khali vs. Hornswoggle they could have done that on Raw or Smackdown as well not on a PPV, I was hoping Shaq would get up and help the little guy LOL

was it me or it just felt like the crowd was dead for certain matches hell the biggest pop of the night probably was when the crowd was chanting "We Want Shaq"

as for Edge I don't even think the crowd even knew who the hell Edge was it was really no type of reaction when he came out, he did a great job showing some intensity though even though I was watching the entire time just knowing that he was going to coming

Survivor match was fun to watch but a little too unrealistic, 5 against 2 and yet HHH team wins??? and a Suprise Replacement for Matt Hardy would have been nice

the best match too me by far and it is not even close would be that ECW match, WOW! all those guys moved up in my book, awesome work just flawless, everybody took a bump and gave a bump it was just good work overrall

All I ask from the WWE is quality finishes to matches worth paying more, I should not be watching a PPV saying "I can't believe I ordered this sh*t" , also more shock value, I would love to see one PPV where I am just shocked like somebody turning heel with out your average fan even expecting it or somebody doing a run in that nobody seen coming that is a way to create a buzz and get fans excited again, what I fine strange is that people that don't watch wrestling weekly really enjoy PPV's way more then I do LOL maybe I am too much of a wrestling fan? I hope not

I thought the Hell In A Cell match was good, blood everywhere, only thing missing was them outside on top of the cage like previous hell in a cell matches

No Santino Marrella, No Elija Burke that sucked, atleast give them some mic time or something, Burke is just lost down in ECW right now, they don't know what to do with him and is it me or everybody in ECW is a Heel besides CM Punk? LOL
Can't wait for Y2J on Raw though
 
Morrison vs. Punk vs. Miz - This was a great match, and much better than I anticipated. Didn't last as long as I think it should have, but there was an awesome amount of talent.

10 Diva Tag Match- If there's one thing I can't stand in the WWE (actually there's lots of things but) it's the diva's 'wrestling' Very few of them can actually wrestle, Victoria, Lita, Chyna, Beth Pheonix, Melina to name a few.. And the way they kiss for attention? They should be models not wrestlers. They ruin things. At least it was short...Eurghh


Holly & Rhodes vs. Cade & Murdoch - I was disappointed by this, I really was. But at the same time, I don't think any of the guys have that much talent on there own. The ending was probably the best, but I still didn't feel anything from this.

Team HHH vs. Team Umaga- This was probably my favourite match. There were a lot of people saying Team HHH would have just got all Team Umaga out without anyone being eliminated themselves, but it was much better this way. More competition, and as much as I was sure Team HHH would win, it made my wonder for a while, especially near the end with just 4 people left. It was a really good example of a traditional Survivor Series match.

Khali vs. Hornswoggle- I could barely sit through this. It was worse than the diva match, and I can't usually find a match to say that about. It let the night down. Really, who wants to see the Great Khali against Hornswaggle?

Randy Orton vs. Shawn Michaels- Well this disappointed me. It was the match I'd been anticipating most. The begining was good, Shawn showing what made him the wrestler he is today. I expected something to come of the Screwjob...obviously not. I didn't particularly want it to, but I also thought at leats something would have been there to mark it. The crippler crossface I really don't agree with being shown. I think it was just too soon, and if I'm being perfectly honest, I'd have been happy never to see it again. I liked the way he used the ankle lock however, and if there wasn't all the controversy over Benoit, I would have said the same about the crossface. They were all really good tactics by Shawn, and each time I thought he had the match. I think everyone will know I wish the result had been different. But I think everyone knew he would go for the Sweet chin Music after the match. And how Orton didn't know is driving me insane. It was ok, and would have been great if it was 2 different wrestlers, but really from The showstopper and the legend killer, I expected better.

Hell in a Cell- This was also a really good match. I hate Batista, but there was a lot of talent going on in this match. 'Taker has always been great in hell in the cells, and I believe up until today he's only ever lost one. You knew it was going to be a mountain for Batista to climb, defeating The yardowner in his backgarden. But Edge for me spoiled it. I think he should have waited until after the match to set something up. He ruined what could have been an awesome match and finisher.

The best PPV in a while, and in my opinion, PPV's have been going downhill for a while. The WWE have done well to get it up to this standard. Lets hope it carries on. One thing I didn't particularly like was the endings, to pretty much all the matches. I wanted results, not DQ's or interferences or anything else.
 
every move michaels put on orton: the crossface, the sharpshooter and the ankle lock are the three moves he has tapped out to in championship matches, it was pointed out to me thought i'd pass it on
 
The PPV was above averge for what WWE has put on this whole year i think we can all agree on that, what would of helped is that if the crowd got into it. I have never seen.heard such a pathetic crowd ever. At some times it was dead silenct to the point that you could tell it was akward for the wrestlers. But w/e, i think im done buying PPV till the royal rumble
 
The ppv was ok , seemed a little bit like an anti climax like what they have at weeker ppv's like cyber sunday. Overall for survivor series did not seem like 1 of the big 4 ppv's but it would of been a good ordanary ppv. Btw i thought the crossface was banned after the whole benoit thing.
 
I felt that this year's Survivor Series was fantastic. I'd ask for a few more "classic" style matches, but in the interest of not being too picky, I was thrilled with the show.

The Orton vs Michaels match delivered BIG TIME. I was one who felt the no-superkick / anti-DQ stipulation was going too far. But then I remembered I was dealing with Shawn Michaels. The man who took a "no hitting in the face match" with Rick Martel and helped make it a good match. The man who, along side Razor Ramon, took the "ladder not to be used as a weapon" ladder match and made it work.

Also, it reminded the crowd that Shawn Michaels is anything but a one-trick pony. That was something Kurt Angle and The Rock did well - they moved away from their primary "finishers" and branched out a bit, which creates more cool spots in a match. HBK using the submission holds of three former stars, especially the Sharpshooter, was balsy and it worked.

Undertaker vs Batista was a bloodbath, though a bit formulaic. It did tell the great story of two desparate men in a rivalry trying to finally bury the other, and the match itself was solid. It just seems like HIAC is becoming a rare treat that is the same as the last. It's like a married couple having missionary sex every Friday night. I mean, it's still sex, but blah...

And finally, the 5-on-5. Well done from the promo to the match itself. Nobody got over more in that match than Jeff Hardy, being able to "hang with the big dog" HHH. By giving Jeff a shot at more mic time, I think they are grooming him for a main event push.
 
Big Will's "take" on Survivor Series 2007:

The Matches: Overall, in general, I'll go down each match & list what I felt was both the good & the bad. Some matches might get one more than the other.

E.C.W. Championship: Triple Threat: C.M. Punk v. John Morrison v. The Miz: First & formost, if you're gonna have any type of additional man match, on a "Survivor" Series card, then why not make them all elimination type matches? It'd at least somewhat go with the gimmick of the night.

So, the good portion of the match, was that it was nicely done & well put together. I didn't think, I didn't assume, I knew that the three of these men had the capability of making something great happen. And while it wasn't exactly "great" it definately wasn't boring. I think this match did exactly what it was suppose to do. It got the crowd into it, more toward the end, but none the less.

The bad portion is that this match was completely predictable from the moment Morrison & Miz won the Smackdown Tag Team titles. W.W.E. might be repetative, but they aren't THAT stupid. They're JUST caming off a gimmick where two guys are Team Champions together, but one wanted the single's gold the other has. Therefore, they weren't about to give the E.C.W. Championship, to either of the now current Tag Team Champions.

Diva's 10 Women Tag Team Match: Mickie James, Maria, Torrie Wilson, Michelle McCool & Kelly Kelly v. Beth Phoenix, Jillian Hall, Melina, Victoria & Layla: Again, completely stupid to not just make this an elimination match, but I suppose W.W.E. is trying to go with their strength's instead of their weaknesses & dispite a couple people's disagreeing.. Four of the Diva's in this match, aren't valuable "wrestlers." (3 of which, alone, on the face side)

So, the good portion is.. the match at least tried to showcase every diva's good & bad talents. And it set-up what was well assumed, which was Mickie James v. Beth Phoenix, assuambly next month.

The bad portion is, too many bad apples, mixed with good ones, make the good ones go sour. What that means is basically put, did anyone else notice that the normally, or overly average (or good) female wrestlers, kinda botched & missed moves during that match, with other good female wrestlers? Its like if you mix one bad diva in with several good female wrestlers, the bad diva corrupts the whole bunch.

(Raw) Tag Team Championships: Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch v. Hardcore Holly & Cody Rhodes: The "special" bonus match for the night. (for those who don't go to wwe.com to find out sooner, anyways, I suppose) My only question, why not just do a Tag Team Tormoil? Again, it'd be a "survivor" type of thing.. eh, I suppose thats why I'm not on the creative side of things.. I mean, pfft, who'd wanna try & use ALL your talent for a top 4 p.p.v., right?

So, there isn't a lot of "good" for this match, but if there was a silver lining, it'd have to be that at least Cody is somewhat coming along better with his wrestling ability. Holly & Rhodes just don't make a good team though, they don't have "sync." I'd have to say that I was at least surprised to see Murdoch attempt his version of the Canadian Destroyer again, although it looked like nothing more than a simply flip pin.

This match had filler written all over it. (A few matches did, but this one wasn't even advertised) So, when a match is more or less tossed in, how often do you see the Championship switch hands? Yeah, a couple times, but not very many.. & besides, why give the titles to a vet & a rookie, when you can keep them on your best team, in the whole company??

Survivor Series Elimination Match: Triple H., Jeff Hardy, Kane & Rey Mysterio v. Umaga, Mr. Kennedy, M.V.P., Finlay & Big Daddy V: The match already started off lop-sided, due to Matt Hardy's "injury" keeping him from competing.. not that he'd need to, with Triple Dominance on the same team.

The good portion is obviously this match was packed with talent, & was a nicely done Survivor Series match. If they would've just packed the rest of the card, with similar-like matches, they might of sold better. (more elimination matches, not equally based talent)

To me, the bad portion was Triple H.'s team winning. What did it prove? Where would they go with it? They have the perfect opening, to allow Triple H. to lose to someone, possibly Kennedy, & instead, he gets taken out before Finlay?! The match went almost exactly how I pictured, until Big Booby V dove onto Kennedy, ultimately costing him his spot in the match. But I was more upset, that Triple H. (more or less alone) fought back from a 5 on 2 disadvantage. I just don't understand why they wouldn't of put over Kennedy.. apparently he's really screwed himself over within the company???

The Great Khali v. Hornswoggle: For those who love to NOT read, you'll be thankful of my review for this match. There wasn't anything to this thing, there was never suppose to be, apparently.

The only good thing I can say that happened, is Shane McMahon returned, apparently heel, & Finlay saved Hornswoggle & seemingly turned face. I loved both. Its good to see Shane, & maybe Finlay is gonna get some type of small push out of this deal.

This "match" had way too many bad points to name them all, so overall shit should likely cover it. I have NO clue what anyone was expecting, & I suppose that could fall under the good portion side of things, because I think everyone thought this was so stupid to begin with.. that noone was let down. Oh at as far as "Shaq" goes.. what the hell? All the Miami fans should've knew he wasn't gonna get up & do anything. He hardly does anything, anymore in basketball, why would he wanna attempt some "Shaq-Fu" on Khali? lol

W.W.E. Championship: Randy Orton v. Shawn Micaels: Everyone knows the stipulations, almost everyone believed something regarding a screwjob would happen.. & it did, I'll get to that later.

The good portion of this match, was I honestly highly enjoyed it. I'm a true H.B.K. fan at heart, & to me, Randy Orton does NOT have the ability to carry the main heel spot on a roster.. but overall, I loved how Shawn Michaels took practically everyone's finishing (submission) move, & botched it like crazy. He screwed up the sharpshooter, he reversed the ankle-lock, (which to his credit, I honestly thought he could've broke Orton's ankle far more than I ever thought Angle could've done it to anyone, just because of how badly it was done.. lol) & finally, if there was EVER a "sin" in wrestling, H.B.K. did it.. when he used the Crippler Crossface!!! (I about shit myself, I couldn't believe it, I loved it though)

Now then, remember how I said the people got what they wanted in the form of a "screwjob?" Well, look at how the match ended. H.B.K. could've easily "won" with a Superkick, like he normally does, but he had to pull back at the last second, knowing he'd lose if he hit it.. & ultimately, he lost anyways. SO, what did everyone get? A screwed up stipulation, that ultimately lead to SCREWING the fans out of a most likely better match.

World Heavyweight Championship: Hell in a Cell: Batista v. Undertaker: The match that everyone was waiting on, the entire night. And yet, if anyone felt there wasn't gonna be a screw job outta this match, because Edge hadn't showed up the entire night prehand, you were kidding yourself.

There was NOTHING good about this match. Taker & Batista have had far better single's matches, than watching these two attempt to pretend there isn't a huge steel structure around them. Neither of them used the Cell, more so then what you could do yourself in the SD v. Raw game.. which is lift your opponent up, & toss them into it.

I have no clue if Edge was under the ring, or in a cameraman type outfit. He was wearing what looked like a cameraman's outfit, & (duh) he had a camera. I think his re-debut could've been A LOT better. He attacked Undertaker, like assumed, & why? Probably because he'll end up blaming Taker, (Kane's brother?) for what happened to him.

Surprise Match of the Night: Shawn Michaels v. Randy Orton. Thankfully, "I" didn't set my standards high on assuming H.B.K. would win. I ran a scenerio in my head that he could, but honestly felt him not being able to use the Superkick was gonna be his doom.. &.. it was. However, what makes this a match of the night for me, was the fact that Shawn Michaels showed the world that he can be technical, as well as high flying. (Did everyone else see the Asie Moonsault?! Normally he does a side flip backwards, not a full on backflip)

Letdown of the Night: (tie/same match) Hell in a Cell/Edge's return. I was looking forward to at least some time of better interaction between Taker/Batista & the Cell.. & I had hoped for Edge's return to at least feature him coming out in wrestling gear, to music, & either attacking someone, or cutting a promo. Either would've been better than what he did end up doing, which I assume was play cameraman most the night.

Overall Thoughts: At least the p.p.v. went 10 minutes short of the 3 hour marker. I was really pissed with spending $40.00 on a 2 hour, 15-30 minute p.p.v. when it's being advertised as 3 hours. (card, CARD is subject to change, not the f'ing time limit)

It wasn't the "worst" p.p.v. of the year for them, but it wasn't close, or even remotely close to being worthy of being one of the top 4 p.p.v.'s that they put on, either. Overall, they need to just rename their shows, because they're no longer what they used to be. Next thing you know, the Royal Rumble won't have 30 guys, & it'll be an elimination chamber match to determine the #1. contender for Wrestlemania. (NO, thats NOT a good idea)
 
First off, let me say I'm ecstatic that I didn't pay for this, lol. I thought this ppv sucked because there were a lot of matches that didn't warrant being on Survivor Series and the ones that did, well, they didn't live up to their hype. Here's my thoughts:

ECW Championship - I actually didn't see this one, so I can't judge it. All I can say is, I'm both glad and disappointed that Punk is still the champ. I'm glad because I think he needs a confidence boost in order to become the great champ he'll eventually be, but I'm disappointed because he has nobody else to feud with, so it leads nowhere.

Divas Tag - I missed the botched Melina entrance, damn, but as much as it pains me to say it...and believe me, it does....this match was actually not too bad lol. The quick tags made sure we didn't spend too long on people like Kelly who can't do 3 moves to save their lives, and the ending with that kiss is awesome lol. I expected Beth to dominate, but it was nice seeing Mickie get the spotlight.

Tag Team Championship - WHY was this on a ppv? This match wouldn't have even been good enough to headline an episode of Raw! Boring, predictable, useless in the end, and no build up. If there would have been a title change, it would have at least meant something, but as it stands, it was just filler.

Hornswoggle/Khali - Speak of the filler devil, this piece of garbage was just what I thought it was going to be: shit. Lol. EASILY the best part of this entire match was the surprise entrance by Shane. The guy's good, what can I say? Its pretty bad when people start caring more that Shaq is in the audience than the match you're putting on. Horrible, horrible waste of time.

Elimination Match - There are a lot of things I liked in this match and a lot of things that bothered me. First I'll start with what I didn't like. 1) No Matt Hardy. Yeah, you're selling the injury, but this is two ppvs in a row you didn't wrestle like you were supposed to. What if someone went to the show because they wanted to see you? 2) There wasn't the typical "random elimination" factor going in here too much, aside from Rey's elimination. Sometimes its nice to see the team captain get knocked out and everyone be in disarray. 3) What was the point of Mysterio and Kane? They didn't contribute at all lol Now, what I did like: 1) JEFF got the final pin, not HHH. I honestly thought they were going to do the whole "HHH versus 5, but he still wins" deal, which would've made me sick. I like HHH but the god-job idea has to go. Jeff just got a push, which was great, as he should be a main event guy now.

WWE Championship - Totally expected Orton to retain, totally expected it to be a ground match, totally expect it to be boring. Got those right. What I didn't expect was the finish, which was a bit bland in my opinion and it made Shawn look weak BUT it didn't, by proxy, make Orton look strong, it just looked like Orton got ONE quick move in, so they're still not building him up as a credible champ. What I really liked about the match, though, was the submission moves. We rarely get to see them anymore, especially the crossface (which I think WASN'T in bad taste, because its time to move on, and that move shouldn't be barred just because the guy who made it famous turned out to be a nut). I loved that we had those submission moves, and the best spot of the night obviously was when he put on that sharpshooter as the crowd went nuts, with a close second being that BEAUTIFUL moonsault. Did I want HBK to win? Yeah. Did I expect him to? Not in the slightest bit. The stipulations did nothing for the match, though, besides hype it for no reason.

WHC HELL IN A CELL - Ok, I have the biggest fish to fry with this one. Was there a point to the cell? Oh, you mean the two times they threw themselves in it? That's about as worthy of a HIAC match as it is a normal cage match. Totally didn't live up to the expectation of a Hell in a Cell match, PLUS it didn't end the feud, so it was stupid to waste the most grandiose of all stipulations on a match that was essentially built on one chair, one set of stairs, one table, and the Undertaker still having to break his Triangle Choke despite it being No-DQ. The match was slow and Undertaker completely carried Batista throughout the whole thing - I don't think anybody can disagree with me on that, whether or not you liked it. The most annoying part of this whole match was that Edge's interference made absolutely no sense whatsoever. I love Edge...I think he's perhaps the very best guy they have in the WWE right now and he's one of my five favorites at the moment, but whoever booked that ending over in Creative must've been rushed or something. Since when does Edge have a personal vendetta against the Undertaker, or, for that matter, support Batista? Now we have to sit through ANOTHER month of Batista as the champ??? Give me a fuckin break. I'm all for Edge/Undertaker, 150%, as that could be the feud of 08, but why drag Batista along with it? They could've easily had this as the very last match between the two (Dave/Taker) with Undertaker winning the gold and immediately being attacked by Edge. If they want to do a triple threat, its still warranted, because you have the champ, the rematch clause, and the run-in who had to give up the belt but didn't lose it. Now, you have the champ, the run-in, and the 2x loser. We know that the Undertaker isn't a loser, blah blah blah, but when you look at it, what does he have to showcase his #1 contender status right now? A loss at Cyber Sunday and a loss in a HIAC match, two in a row. That's hardly #1 contender to me. What bothers me most is that they might totally botch the Undertaker/Edge story just to try to drag it out longer and have a "#1 contender match" at Armageddon, and in the process, give us a month of freakin Batista/Finlay, Batista/Henry, or Batista/Khali. If they do their typical "nobody can win unless its at least the third match" bullshit, AGAIN this year........well, then, I'm very, very glad that they haven't gotten any of my money.


PPV = 4/10, 1 point to the Divas match, 2 points to the Elimination match, and 1 point for the sharpshooter and moonsault. That's all that I'm giving credit to.
 
Big Will's "take" on Survivor Series 2007:
Overall, they need to just rename their shows, because they're no longer what they used to be. Next thing you know, the Royal Rumble won't have 30 guys, & it'll be an elimination chamber match to determine the #1. contender for Wrestlemania. (NO, thats NOT a good idea)

Oh my god, please don't jinx the Royal Rumble. It's all I have left.

This is what I would've done had I been in control of the card,

An ECW traditional Survivor Series match, just to get those guys some time. And maybe at least one RAW and Smackdown match too.. think of what you could've had..

I know this was a pretty good match, but instead of the triple threat for the ECW title, why not CM Punk, Tommy Dreamer, Stevie Richards and Balls Mahoney vs. Morrison, the Miz, Elijah Burke, and Kevin Thorne. There could've been a finish that led to the triple threat at Armageddon. And you could've even had something set up an Elijah Burke vs. Dreamer feud.

Instead of the RAW tag match, you could've had Cade, Murdoch, The Highlanders vs. Londrick and Cody and Holly.. another title match to set up for Armageddon. Also WGTT could've done a run-in on one of the teams to create a program with them. [on a side note, I think WGTT should turn face and become an underdog team, yeah I know it negates their name, but they aren't doing much else now.]

It's hard to come up with something for Smackdown seeing as most of their talent that weren't in the traditional match are either cruiserweights or in a tag team.. but something could've been done, maybe a cruiserweight battle royal for the [defunct?] cruiserweight title.

And I definitely would've liked to see Santino in there somewhere, I just hope they can follow up his future-classic Stone Cold segments.
 

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