I never said any of that. Actually if you read my post again it says that I consider their success winning matches and titles to be about on par with each other.
My apologies Big Sexy, I may have overlooked that part, but yes indeed they are very equal.
I lumped all of this together because we can debate different guys primes all day long, but in no way is the competition that Cena has beaten better then what The Rock beat. If you want to say they're even, although I still disagree, I can at least get where you are coming from. However, to say Cena beat better competition is an outright lie.
That may very well be true, but John's competition is quite comparable to The Rock to say the least then, both have faced and excelled against great competition, and it's quite obvious that this is gonna be a tough match, which I just think John has the upper hand in.
I never disputed that. The fact remains that John Cena has never defeated anyone that is the Rock's caliber. The Rock is on another level that I don't believe Cena has reached yet. There are very few guys I would vote over Cena but the Rock is most certainly one of them. The Rock thrived in an era where the rules were constantly bent and he dished out and took punishment from guys like Austin, Foley, and Taker that were known for their toughness.
The highlighted part is the exact thing that made me argue the fact that John has thrived with hardcore matches as well, as I said, John can very well dish out, and receive punishment, just as well, if not more than The Rock, facing guys like Batista, JBL (who was quite nasty with those chairs to say the least) Edge, Randy Orton and, well I guess you could say Umaga due to their last man standing match, as well as a multitude of hard fought matches with guys like Triple H and Kurt Angle.
People tuned in to watch more then just Austin. Like I said Austin wasn't even around for the majority of one of the WWE's highest rating years. The Rock thrived in his role as the top guy in Austin's absence. As far as Austin getting the better reaction when they faced, with exception of Wrestlemania 17 Austin was always the face so of course he got the bigger reaction. At Mania 17 when they were both face the reaction was basically equal.
That's true, but that doesn't leave out the fact that people tuned in to watch Austin for the most of the 98's and 99's during his feud with McMahon, therefore you could consider that it was Austin who pulled the WWE, which has been disputed a lot around here as well, but I'm not gonna argue drawing power anymore, since we all know that's not gonna get anybody to win this, it's the gimmick rounds, not the regular rounds, where voting because of influence actually did something.
Again, we can argue primes all day I just look at those lists and to me the Rock's is superior. To each their own I guess.
Indeed, to each their own, but I'm not arguing that The Rock didn't face any hard opponents, that would be ridiculous, but I just consider the opponents Cena faced, to be just a little bit tougher.
Their isn't much knowledge involved. The match is pretty straight forward. And dominant isn't a word I would ever use in a sentence with Edge pertaining to anything.
Edge can be dominant and match controlling, remember his match with John Morrison in 2009? I would call that pretty controlling and dominating.
Sure it's straight forward, but don't everybody always scream and yell (on WWE shows, the in-ring characters) that yada yada yada I've experienced it, so I know how to deal with it blah blah blah, so I have got to have the advantage, blah blah end of promo.
Is that a serious statement? It's a hardcore match with a fucking ladder involved. The Rock isn't an idiot. He wouldn't really have to adapt at all, like I said the match is pretty straight forward.
I realize I may have considered it more serious than anything when I wrote it, but I guess, for the sake of being able to stand up for my argument, yes the match is very straight forward, but my comment to that has been pretty answered in previous paragraph.
The Rock just outclasses Cena here for the victory.
No, John Cena outsmarts The Rock in this one, leaving him, doing something, I'm not quite sure whether he crawls the ladder, pins him, or submits him, either way, John comes out on top.