klunderbunker
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Yep, but Rogers was picked over Favre, so in Green Bay's eyes he's the better choice. I'm still looking for their reasoning on hating Favre all of a sudden.
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Turd Ferguson
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Four so far this season. When the dust settles, the odds are very good that they'll be a playoff team.
klunderbunker
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Why use the first round pick on him? Favre wasn't slowing down, so they draft Rogers anyway. The fans are pissed off at a veteran QB for leaving when he's told that an unproven rookie is a better option than he is? he's upset that a team that he turned around and won their first title in 30 years for says well Brett, you gave us 13 wins and got us a game from the Super Bowl in your best season in forever, but we're going to go with this guy that has about zero playing time, no starts and no proof that he's going to be any good. You can stay of course. All you have to do is prove that you're as good as he is, despite being insanely good just a few months ago.
Also, they didn't seem to mind him being in New York. Now they look and see what they could have had and life sucks again. Cry me a river Green Bay.
Also, they didn't seem to mind him being in New York. Now they look and see what they could have had and life sucks again. Cry me a river Green Bay.
klunderbunker
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Care to make a little wager on that?
klunderbunker
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Do you really want to make the argument that Rogers is comparable to Steve Young?
Turd Ferguson
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Signature bet. Winner picks the signature of the loser that the loser has to keep for two weeks.
Yes, four wins...including wins against the Browns, the Lions, the Rams, and Jay Cutler's first game with the Bears, who lost Urlacher before the first half ended. Maybe next week they can play the Deaf team, and the week after the Blind team. Way to rack up those wins.
KB, I so hope you're being serious, because right now I could almost bring myself to rep you for this.
klunderbunker
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Young's first season as starter: 10-6 taking over a 14-2 team. He missed 5 games though. First full season: 14-2, lost in the NFC title game, Young is MVP. That's far better than Rogers I'd think.
klunderbunker
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Quite serious. Can't stand all the bullshit I've been hearing from Packers fans saying how he's a traitor. They're suffering from some of the worst envy I've ever seen.
Turd Ferguson
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Yes, four wins...including wins against the Browns, the Lions, the Rams, and Jay Cutler's first game with the Bears, who lost Urlacher before the first half ended. Maybe next week they can play the Deaf team, and the week after the Blind team. Way to rack up those wins.
They have the Bucs, Cowboys, 49ers, Lions, Ravens, Bears, Seahawks, and Cardinals left on their schedule. I can conceivably see them getting at least 6 more wins.
klunderbunker
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I see five at best and 9 wins isn't getting you into the playoffs in the NFC.
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I see five at best and 9 wins isn't getting you into the playoffs in the NFC.
Sly, your main point has been that Favre went 13-3 in 2007, then Aaron Rodgers took pretty much the same team and went 6-10. Although the defensive numbers went way down from 07 to 08 you said that there's no way the defense just got bad in one year. However, the Tennessee Titans have proven that to be completely false.
The Titans went 13-3 last year with the number 2 defense in the NFL. One year later they are 1-6 and have the WORST defense in the NFL. You can say whatever you want about how shitty Kerry Collins has been, there is no way you go from giving up 14.6 ppg to 30 ppg just because Collins has played bad. So obviously a defense can go from great to horrible in one season.
The Titans went 13-3 last year with the number 2 defense in the NFL. One year later they are 1-6 and have the WORST defense in the NFL. You can say whatever you want about how shitty Kerry Collins has been, there is no way you go from giving up 14.6 ppg to 30 ppg just because Collins has played bad. So obviously a defense can go from great to horrible in one season.
klunderbunker
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We'll also leave out Haynesworth, their best player and the key to that defense leaving killing it too since it would hurt your argument.
Ty Burna
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Actually yes you can blame it some on the QB for the defense playing worse. Very easily you can. If a QB can't complete passes to sustain drives and results in multiple three and out situations, not only does your offense suffer but your defense never really gets a chance to rest on the sidelines and are often put in a bad field position.
I don't buy your argument at all, but even if I do, let's examine what you just said.
You're trying to compare the Titans which is giving up 15.4 more points a game this year from last, to the Packers, who gave up 5.6 more points a game from 07 to 08? That's a two touchdown difference for the Titans...and less than two field goals difference for the Packers.
So, while your argument is crap to begin with, the validation you're trying to give for your argument is just flat out pitiful.
Try again.
Hayensworth is good, but you don't give up 16 more ppg because you lose a DT. If he was that great then I'm sure he would be helping Washingtons defense out a lot more then he currently is.
Did you read anything I said? I was disputing the point you made when you said the Packers defense couldn't possibly have gotten that much worse from one year to the next with almost the same players. The Titans are a great example of how a defense definitely can do that.
Moon Knight
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The Titans were a one year wonder and were never actually that good in the first place.
Green Bay's record the last 4 years
2005- 4-12
2006- 8-8
2007- 13-3
2008- 6-10
It looks like a great case can be made that the Packers were a one year wonder.
And did you read what I said? The Packers defense DIDN'T get that much worse...the Titans gave up 15 PPG and the Packers gave up 5.5.
Learn to comprehend your own points.
Considering the Packers lost 7 games last year by 4 points or less, that 5.5 extra points they gave up was a big. If you add those 7 games to the 6 they won, then all you mathematicians know that is 13. The same number they won in 2007.
Right, when Brett Favre was there.
So, you're proving my point. When Favre is there, they won those games, when Rodgers is there, they didn't. What is your point here?
Christian Battlez
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His point is the defense giving away almost 6 more points a game a year later and the fact they lost 7 games by 4 points or less means that if they hadn't allowed those 6 more points they win those other 7 games and combined with the 6 wins they had you get 13. Their previous record. Rodgers is a good Quarterback although not better than Favre. I don't know what your trying to prove Sly.