Face Turn / Heel Turn, pick one for each.

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

If you could pick one guy to turn heel, and one to turn face, who would they be?

HEEL - Sheamus
I'll admit, since he's come back, he's been less annoying. I think he's okay as face, but he is MUCH better as a heel. Just go back a few years ago when he first debuted and compare him to how he has been the past 2 years. They needed to try to create a new top babyface, and he did the job admirably. But he portrays the "merciless brute" as well as anyone on the roster and I want to see that Sheamus again. Especially now that he has some credibility and some years under his belt.


FACE - Roman Reigns
This is an easy one, and we're seeing the beginning of it. We need a bad-ass babyface who can stand face to face w/ Triple H and actually look like he could kick his ass (not DB staring up at him like a child).

 

[Kamala316]

HEEL - Kofi Kingston. Tap into that ruthless aggression that he showed in his feud with Randy Orton. Maybe even have him take out Christian backstage at EC, and have him take his spot, setting up a low card match at WrestleMania (rather than putting on a music concert as a filler).

FACE - Cesaro. Have Swagger win the IC title at EC, then have him brag/put down Cesaro, leading to a face turn, and a match for the IC title at WrestleMania. He is getting a great crowd reaction - have him use the Cesaro swing to set up the Neutralizer or a flying European uppercut for his finisher.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Sheamus needs to go heel, in my opinion. We've seen him as a babyface and I agree that he's done okay, but I found him to be much more entertaining as a persona when he was a heel. I'm not a huge fan of Sheamus essentially being what amounts to something of an Irish stereotype. It doesn't offend me or anything, it's just that it's not particularly interesting as a laid back, jovial Irish lug.

As for Roman Reigns...hmmm I find myself looking at him as more of a tweener at this point. However, as with so many other aspects in regards to Reigns, it's difficult to say because he & The Shield have been portrayed as such a tight, cohesive unit for so very long. As a result, it's difficult, for me at least, to get a clear idea of how Reigns will do on his own. I think he'll do extremely well, just my opinion, but we'll have to wait and see. He can do well as a heel, I think he could pull off a tweener role with no problem, I'm just not sure about a straight babyface.

As for two of my own:

FACE/TWEENER - Cesaro

As I said in another thread created yesterday, I think Cesaro has a real shot at being elevated if WWE can find something that fits him well. Personally, I can see Cesaro as a face or tweener that plays off his naturally legit toughness and he's portrayed as passionate, intense "tough guy." I don't mean that he should be some one dimensional juggernaut screaming his head off or anything. I mean something kind of like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyG-ra44p_s

It's a brief backstage promo of Cesaro prior to his match very late last year on NXT with William Regal. He's not ultra dynamic or anything, but it seems FAR more natural, well paced and believable than anything we've heard from Cesaro the few times he's been on the mic in WWE.

HEEL - Kofi Kingston

Kofi Kingston has long since gone as far as he's going with the happy, smiling babyface persona. About a month or so ago, there was an article on WZ's main page saying that a character change for Kofi was going to happen. Maybe the idea has been scrapped because there's been no follow up, or maybe it was never really going to happen all along. Kofi's been a strong mid-card babyface and presence, but I think he could pull off something darker and more aggressive with a little dash of arrogance. After all, the guy's insanely athletic and with some of his offense, I can easily picture him being cocky as hell because of his athleticism.

 

[laodaron]

Heel - Daniel Bryan. You can make anyone a face if you have John Cena give them credibility. However, the WWE is sorely missing a quality heel, and the turn by Bryan seems perfect.

Face - The Wyatts. That weird Florida Swamp-man thing isn't going to last forever as a heel. It needs a face turn, much like Taker/Kane/etc. for a supernatural gimmick to last through a long period of time.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Heel - Daniel Bryan. You can make anyone a face if you have John Cena give them credibility. However, the WWE is sorely missing a quality heel, and the turn by Bryan seems perfect.

Face - The Wyatts. That weird Florida Swamp-man thing isn't going to last forever as a heel. It needs a face turn, much like Taker/Kane/etc. for a supernatural gimmick to last through a long period of time.

Missing a quality heel? Yeah, I'm not really sure where you get that. Orton, The Authority, The Wyatt Family, The Shield all get strong heat. Daniel Bryan is the single most over babyface in wrestling right now. WWE tried to turn him heel by making him a member of The Wyatt Family, it simply didn't work out. It was an embarrassing blunder for WWE management. Fans WANT to cheer for Daniel Bryan and, as much as I hate to say this, Bryan as a babyface is what's best for business.

I agree that The Wyatt Family probably won't go on exactly like this forever, but they'll have to keep them as dark characters even as babyface, like we've seen with Taker. Otherwise, it'd be best to scrap the gimmick altogether and repackage them. However, there's absolutely no reason to turn them babyface right now as they're doing far too good of a job as heels. They have momentum, they generate a creepy vibe, Bray Wyatt is arguably the best guy in WWE on the mic right now and they're all three believable as heels. There's far too much to gain with The Family as they currently are to change them right now.

 

[NtwrestlingMaster]

I would definitely turn Cesaro face. His Cesaro Swing is already getting him a great reaction, and even though his we the people thing is working well, I would tweak him a little bit, but he needs to build his connection with the fans, and the chant is working well right now.

The first thing I would do, is set him in a fued against Zeb and Swagger, with Swagger have won the IC title against Big E. Swagger drops the title to Cesaro, then you can set up Big E vs Henry, and Cesaro vs Ambrose to unify.


I would turn Miz heel, and he would have to drop the figure 4 leg lock. He is not really a good face IMO, but had a really awesome heel run with the WWE title. It's really too bad they got rid of the WHC, because I'd love to see him challenge someone like a face Dbry for it.

 

[laodaron]

Missing a quality heel? Yeah, I'm not really sure where you get that. Orton, The Authority, The Wyatt Family, The Shield all get strong heat. Daniel Bryan is the single most over babyface in wrestling right now. WWE tried to turn him heel by making him a member of The Wyatt Family, it simply didn't work out. It was an embarrassing blunder for WWE management. Fans WANT to cheer for Daniel Bryan and, as much as I hate to say this, Bryan as a babyface is what's best for business.

I agree that The Wyatt Family probably won't go on exactly like this forever, but they'll have to keep them as dark characters even as babyface, like we've seen with Taker. Otherwise, it'd be best to scrap the gimmick altogether and repackage them. However, there's absolutely no reason to turn them babyface right now as they're doing far too good of a job as heels. They have momentum, they generate a creepy vibe, Bray Wyatt is arguably the best guy in WWE on the mic right now and they're all three believable as heels. There's far too much to gain with The Family as they currently are to change them right now.

Well, we'll have to disagree.

Orton gets XPac heat, the Shield gets tweener pops, the Wyatts get tweener pops, and the Authority gets moderate heel heat, unless they are putting Orton against a nearly exclusively face EC.

Daniel Bryan is only the most over babyface because of Cena, smart booking, and the desire of the fans to have an underdog. You can't have that person do good work the the tweener Wyatts, he needs to heel turn against someone like Cena. He would draw much more heat as a heel than he will as a face with the title, that's a promise. Long term? DBryan needs to be a heel, and the sooner the better.

 

[Sabutage]

I know all the reasons why it shouldn't or won't happen, but I would love to see a full blown Cena heel turn. Today's wrestling isnt like the past, people know its staged so I think theyd sell a ton of heel Cena merchandise and it could make fantastic television, as well as change the whole dynamics of his matches.

Face is a harder choice for me, but I'd go with Fandango, More of an experiment really but I'd like to see him given a chance to turn his persona into something akin to Y2J earlier in his WWE career, with some more catch phrases and usig the mic to insult other heel wrestlers. If he can speed up his delivery with promos I think it could work quite well.

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

Heel- Kofi Kingston.

He's a very accomplished mid-carder. I've always been a fan of his.

Hope he finally gets his chance. He's been with the company for about 7 years and has still a lot of years left. Now is the perfect time to turn him heel and turn him into a superstar


Face- Roman Reigns or Cesaro

Both are extremely talented and have a bright future ahead of them

 

[EFWFigureStopMotion]

Heel- Daniel Bryan
In my opinion, Bryan is a great heel. He makes great rivalries when he is facing a face (such as CM Punk). Also WWE needs a good heel and in my opinion, I think Bryan is that great heel.

Face- Roman Reigns
WWE is probably going to make him face because of all the "best member of the shield" type of antics. They need a powerhouse face that will stop at nothing to get what he wants and I think Reigns is that type of guy.

 

[Kool Aid Man]

I have to go with everyone else.

Heel Turn for Bryan-This would be because he is fed up with playing by the rules and doing the right thing and not getting the belt. He could market as a sellout in similar Hogan fashion and get the title that way. He would have to turn face again later though because he has too much fan support.

Reigns as a face-Would be good and would push him from his role in The Shield. It would be difficult to see his role as a face though, possible feud with Lesnar would work well.

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

The most over babyface in the company is who should turn heel? Come on guys. I was thinking more along the lines of who could get some "new life" breathed into them, like my suggestion of Sheamus, or others' of Kofi.

Bryan totally dumping on the fans at this time would be entertaining, shocking heel turns always are, but it's counter-productive.

 

[Sexcellence of Sexecution]

Ok if you think that Bryan needs a heel turn right now you are completely clueless. This is a guy who one of the most over wrestlers we've seen in years. The fans so desperately want to cheer for this guy, it would kill his momentum to try and make him a heel. A Bryan heel turn isn't beneficial at all.

The person who I think would actually benefit from a heel turn is Kofi Kingston. The smiling jumping babyface schtick has taken him as far as it can (nowhere), it's time to inject something fresh (and by something fresh, I mean something) into his character. No idea if he could pull off being a heel, but I'd at least give him a shot. Might as well.

As for a face turn, the most obvious choice is Roman Reigns, but since the wheels are already in motion for that I'll mention somebody else. That somebody else would be Cesaro, but not anytime soon. I think the WWE rushes to break up tag-teams way too quickly in the modern era, and I'd keep the Real Americans together for a little longer. But when the do eventually split Cesaro will do well as a face, if only for that awesome big swing move he does.

 

[laodaron]

Ok if you think that Bryan needs a heel turn right now you are completely clueless. This is a guy who one of the most over wrestlers we've seen in years. The fans so desperately want to cheer for this guy, it would kill his momentum to try and make him a heel. A Bryan heel turn isn't beneficial at all.

Ask HHH, Orton, Austin, Jericho, Rock, Bret Hart, Big Show, etc. if going heel kills your momentum.

Once Bryan gets the title, this whole underdog thing goes away for him, and he settles back into the mid card as a face. As a heel, he's still relevant. He's the smartest choice by the WWE to turn heel in the next 3-6 months.

 

[Sexcellence of Sexecution]

Ask HHH, Orton, Austin, Jericho, Rock, Bret Hart, Big Show, etc. if going heel kills your momentum.

Once Bryan gets the title, this whole underdog thing goes away for him, and he settles back into the mid card as a face. As a heel, he's still relevant. He's the smartest choice by the WWE to turn heel in the next 3-6 months.

...Austin turning heel was one of the all-time worst booking decisions. And his heel turn came when he had already been on top for a bit. Imagine Austin turned heel in 1998, that would be like Bryan turning now.

Also, the Rock turned heel because he had a lame babyface gimmick and then he got over. His babyface gimmick wasn't working so a change was needed. Bryan's babyface gimmick is working, why would you want to tamper with something that's so effective. When Rock turned into the Hollywood movie star heel, it was because the fans were starting to turn on him for doing movies, so the WWE went with the flow.

Bret was another person who grew stale as a top face and turned, also Bret wasn't as over as Bryan is. The other guys you mentioned were never anywhere close to the top babyface spot.

So, you're wrong.

 

[laodaron]

Yeah, HHH and Jericho were never top babyfaces...oh wait...that's complete bullshit.

And Bryan isn't the TOP babyface, either. That's John Cena. Bryan is only as popular as he is because Cena gave him the rub.

 

[Kris Benwa]

I know this is old but in the next few years I think we'll see a Cena heel turn if he doesn't retire first. It would suck if he chose to hang it up because he could still spend the tail end of his career being the HBK always having a main story and sometimes drifting into the title picture but never winning it. I think before WM 31 and 32 we'll have Cena turn because all the guys who are on the verge of breaking out will have done so already and the guys like Bryan will (hopefully) have solidified their spot by then so that's my choice for heel. If that doesn't fit the criteria then I'd pick Batista because he's pretty much already one and I think he would be miles more entertaining as one.

For face I don't want to pick the obvious guys Cesaro and Reigns but they're the only ones I can think of besides an Orton face turn after Batista turns. I think The Authority will treat Orton like shit and he'll snap and try to take them down and turn face because of it. I don't like Orton face or heel but this heel run he's been getting the wrong kind of heat. If they're really set on having Orton vs Batista I could see the rematch having a double turn or just a Orton you suck Batista is our guy now and they beat him up turning him face by association.

 

[Dirk]

You guys want to turn beloved, lightning-quick, neon, high-flier Kofi heel? Good luck with that.

If you could pick one guy to turn heel, and one to turn face, who would they be?

HEEL - Sheamus
I'll admit, since he's come back, he's been less annoying. I think he's okay as face, but he is MUCH better as a heel.

Good pick. He is a better face now than his corny green Cena act in 2011. Maybe WWE is just riding the nostalgia pops before turning him. His return at the Rumble was a mark-out moment for me and I'm not even a fan of the guy.

Face turn: Reigns
Do it after WM. They've pushed him enough as the powerhouse of the Shield. After WM, push him as a singles face. He's already getting the pops, he has the look, so go for it. But I'd rather have him feud with Ambrose and Rollins than job to Cena just yet... He doesn't need to be in the title picture to get a push, give the man a good feud.

Heel: The Miz
Because he is shit, people don't like him anyway. Worse still, they nothing him. At least he was getting some (bad) heat as champ. I'm not saying he should be champ of any sort, but he's the perfect guy to use as a jobber to the stars.

 

[ASKane]

Face - Its a member of the Shield but it isn't Reigns, Seth Rollins. He has the Jeff Hardy build, look and can get the moveset. Let him be the one who turns face and add a top rope move to the curb stomp as a finisher and let him be the drug free and reliable Jeff Hardy. As for Reigns ever since he debuted the 1 issue people always bring up is lack of mic skills and that's why I would have him as a heel Heyman Guy but a proper 1 like Brock was when he debuted with all the physical abilities just not the mic skills and not Ryback or Axel who needed Heyman to do everything for them

Heel - HHH. If he is gonna play this Evil Boss role he cant do it as a tweener. But in terms of wrestlers Mark Henry, Big Show or Big E. There are no true monster heels atm the closest thing to one is the Wyatt Family. WWE need an Upper mid card monster heel and my pick is Henry but if not Big E or Big Show could fit that role.

I am going to add divas to it. Turn AJ face as she is the most talented and popular diva and turn Eva heel because she is so easy to hate

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

There are no true monster heels atm the closest thing to one is the Wyatt Family. WWE need an Upper mid card monster heel and my pick is Henry but if not Big E or Big Show could fit that role.

This is the reason why Alexander Rusev was called up. He'll squash a bunch of guys for a couple months then become a Jobber-to-the-Stars like Umaga.

 

[Reflection]

Heel- Sheamus: From his feud against Goldust to destroying Jamie Noble to unexpectedly defeating John Cena for the WWE Championship, this man was a monster as a heel. Normally the word monster is simply used for wrestlers around 7 feet tall irrespective of how dangerous they are, but heel Sheamus was a monster by virtue of how he used to beat his opponents.

Face- Ryback: The opposite of Sheamus; Ryback was massively over among the fans as a face, had an winning streak, and kicked the year-long champion's ass many times. Many heel gimmicks were tried with him, like the bully, the cocky guy, the Paul Heyman guy etc., but none of them have worked effectively.

Heel- Dolph Ziggler: Dolph Ziggler was very successful as a traditional heel that uses cheap tactics to win, accompanied with an on-screen girlfriend and a powerhouse. Its a shame that the concussions ruined his momentum, or he could still be a main-eventer today.

Face- Alberto Del Rio: Conversely, Alberto was much more over as a face than as a heel. At least he used to get a positive reaction from the crowd during his days of feuding with Jack Swagger and Zeb Colter; reaction that prompted the WWE to launch his T-shirt and change the beat of his entrance theme. Now the majority of the crowd don't even react to his cheap shots and semi-sarcastic promos.

Face- Curtis Axel: Since its obvious that the people don't take him seriously as a bad guy, instead of wasting him where you know he is not gonna move ahead, why not try something different with him?

Heel- The Miz: Mike Mizanin is a natural heel. Its a rare feature when just by looking at your face, people think you are a douchebag and want to hate you- much like that "Scumbag Steve" internet meme (sorry, couldn't help but make that comparison)... So when WWE gets the bright idea of turning him face once in a while, they are just wasting his natural talent, and forcing him to excel in something he is not as strong at.

Cool Heel- Roman Reigns: The current character of his- a guy that generally beats up faces, but doesn't back away from spearing heels as well, if he has to- thats what suits him best. One of the biggest problems these days is finding the right character/gimmick/role for a wrestler, so when you have found one that is working so well, why change it? Especially, why change it when the results have been disastrous in most cases, like Ryback?

Face for next 5 years- Daniel Bryan: In the past decade, he is the only guy that has been able to match the one and only John Cena's ability to please the crowd, and getting a reaction from them, even surpassing him when it comes to the demographic range he has- which is basically everyone, young or old, and that is really an immense accomplishment. When WWE thinks about the next 4-5 years, this is one man they will be thinking of. Turning him heel would be beyond stupid. It would be forceful (to make the crowd buy into it), desperate (to end his momentum), extremely ill-advised (goodbye Yes! chants), and would be rightfully criticised for decades to come.

 

[Rollins_The_Future]

Kofi should turn heel because it would inject something new into his career but I say turn him heel after WrestleMania.

Sheamus is getting boo'd lately. I say turn him heel as well.

Big E Langston should turn heel as well, extremely boring and generic babyface.


I'd like to see Roman Reigns turn face, as well as Seth Rollins. Also, Cesaro shouldn't turn face yet especially with all the dinosaurs returning.

 

[solidsnake]

Heel turn- how long has evrybody waited for john cena i mean he is probably of the very few successful wrestlers whom havnt proved there skills as a quality heel....i know he was heel with his yhuganomics gig a few centuries ago but id say he could do much much better this time around

Face turn- i would have said cesaro or reins but then they already get face pop.....and quite honestly wwe at the moment has 0 full blown heels the most heat that anybody generates is Paul heyman i know you have the wyatts and th sheild as a whole but no individual who the moment there music sounds you feel oh boy what could happen now if you get what i am trying to convey. Pheew hard to explain

 

[Softcore Holly]

Heel - Ziggler, Miz (and stick with it!) and Kofi

Face - Barrett, Sandow, and Swagger

Heels: Ziggler/Miz's best days were when they were heels, and their latest face runs has been lackluster at best. Kofi has been the same character for far too long, at the very least a heel turn can be a nice change of pace and who knows, might show a great side that we never got to see.

Face: What 2 things does all 3 men have in common?

1. They were heels their entire WWE career.
2. All 3 are going nowhere fast, well cept maybe the unemployment line

BNB would have the easiest turn since he can get over by trolling other heels instead of the audience.
Sandow is skilled enough with the mic that they can find some way to make it work without much effort.
Swagger is hardest, but like Kofi a change of pace couldn't hurt

 

[Sheamus' Suntan]

The obvious two turns are reigns to face and sheamus to heel. They need to happen soon and they will.

My non-obvious 2 turns are:

Ziggler
Ziggler worked much better. Much better as a heel. Yes. He was getting face style pops but that happens in this day and age. Really though, as a face, he's fallen flat. He's a show off. A guy who takes pride in appearance, stealing girlfriends, and stealing the show. He needs to go back to stealing wins, and generally...being a bad guy. He could, could, be the next incarnation of flair if he's done right.


Seth Rollins.
Everything about Rollins. His look. His move set. His excited mannerisms, scream face. Watch him back when he was in NXT. I dare you. He's Jeff hardy. Without the cocaine. He could have a huge future if they make him that guy. The one who chases the boyhood dream, always falls at the final hurdle. Earns shot after shot but gets screwed or loses. Then bam. At a big event, wins his first world title. Rollins could be huge. But as a heel...he's just...in line to be another heel.