Edge vs Orton - WHEN it happens...

[IrishCanadian25]

If you look at the Main Eventers from Raw and Smackdown right now, virtually every combination of them has had a main-event caliber feud WHILE they were main event talent. Cena has feuded with HHH, Edge, and Orton. Jericho has feuded with HHH, Orton, and Cena. Edge has feuded with Cena, Undertaker, and HHH. It goes on and on.

But Randy Orton vs Edge is a feud that never REALLY took place. It was teased in the wake of Team Rated RKO, but never materialized. THey met a while back for the Intercontinental Title, but they were not yet Main Eventers. Both were ABOUT to be.

It also bears mentioning that Edge and Orton are the top heels on their respective brands. Neither of them is (barring major injury) anywhere near retirement. Orton is entering his prime, Edge has been there a litte while.

Which leads me to believe - it's going to happen, it's going to be a main event at WrestleMania or SummerSlam, it's going to be for a major title, and there are only 3 variables to it.

1. Which brand will the feud occur on? I am going to say RAW, because Cable TV was MADE for the Rated R Superstar. Plus, a feud of this magnitude deserves the chance to pull out the stops a bit more, even if it's still TV-PG or whatever. It's on RAW, and it's for the World Heavyweight Title.

2. Who will be the face, who will be the heel? Right now, it's hard to imagine either guy as a babyface - a testament to their heel characters. But I'll say Edge. Orton tried as a face briefly and failed miserably. He works so much better - ever exclusively - as a heel, because he is almost unlikable. Edge, on the other hand, has the babyface looks and the humor to pull off a witty babyface character. He's done it well in the past, and a face turn for him sems the most logical.

3. Who will win? The hardest question of them all. I don't know. Part of me sees Edge putting over the younger Orton, but there's no way to be sure. I guess it all depends on the landscape at the time. But I'll say this much - Orton vs Edge for the WHC would potentially have the intensity of Michaels vs Hart (pre-screwjob, of course) and could be any kind of match - TLC, Hell in a Cell, 60-minute Ironman, etc.

 

[Thomas_Argyle]

I see the feud being better suited for the RAW brand due to the live and more "unpredictable" nature of the show.

Orton would have to be the face, but he should not change the way he acts now. He is already getting cheered as an anti hero despite being booked as a heel. If they were to turn him into a squeaky clean Full House lesson of the day baby face he would lose his appeal. Especially when paired when Vicki Guerrero, Edge is a heat magnet.

Orton should win. Orton is the future of the WWE (assuming he doesn't decide to burn down a hotel for the lulz.). Edge is one bad neck injury away from retirement. It could happen tomorrow, or it could happen in five years; but Edge's neck has had past injuries where as Orton is still young and healthy.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

1. Which brand will the feud occur on? I am going to say RAW, because Cable TV was MADE for the Rated R Superstar. Plus, a feud of this magnitude deserves the chance to pull out the stops a bit more, even if it's still TV-PG or whatever. It's on RAW, and it's for the World Heavyweight Title.

I'm in agreement that a feud of this magnitude is made for only one brand, and it's damn sure not one that takes place on Tuesdays or Friday night's. Raw is the flagship show, and these two Main Event Superstars were made to be the future highlight of the World Wrestling Entertainment.

Now, with that being said.. who's to say it isn't a WrestleMania, Raw versus Smackdown rivalry. If there is one thing that could be bigger than Raw, it's the war to decide which show could possibly be better through one match.

I think that while this is definately a Raw-only rivalry, it would also be greatly served to be an inter-promotional rivalry between Raw & Smackdown.

2. Who will be the face, who will be the heel? Right now, it's hard to imagine either guy as a babyface - a testament to their heel characters. But I'll say Edge. Orton tried as a face briefly and failed miserably. He works so much better - ever exclusively - as a heel, because he is almost unlikable. Edge, on the other hand, has the babyface looks and the humor to pull off a witty babyface character. He's done it well in the past, and a face turn for him sems the most logical.

Edge would be the face, hands down. Randy Orton is a natural born jackass. He failed miserably as a face and couldn't even attempt to make people love him. He has his fans, but that's just because a lot of people in this world are warped. lol

On the other side, Edge has always had a fan following, through everything he's done. Feuding with Cena, the fans sided with Edge. Screwing Lita and stabbing Matt Hardy, the fans sided with Edge. During the ending of the Undertaker/Edge/Vickie triangle.. they sided with the sick side of Edge, leading into Summerslam.

Because of all that, Edge.. albeit likely still with heel-like qualities, would be the tweener/face going into the match-up.

3. Who will win? The hardest question of them all. I don't know. Part of me sees Edge putting over the younger Orton, but there's no way to be sure. I guess it all depends on the landscape at the time. But I'll say this much - Orton vs Edge for the WHC would potentially have the intensity of Michaels vs Hart (pre-screwjob, of course) and could be any kind of match - TLC, Hell in a Cell, 60-minute Ironman, etc.

Randy Orton needs the victory more so than Edge does. If you think about it, Edge has defeated a lot of great (evenly matched) talent. He's beaten legend's, teamed with legend's, and won every Championship imaginable.

Whereas Randy Orton's claim to fame is defeating Legend's that are often passed their prime. Because of that, Orton is majorly lacking in proving that he can even hang in the same league as Edge.

I think an Orton victory wouldn't hurt Edge, and only thrust Orton back into being a very dominate and serious Heavyweight contender.

No offense meant to Orton at all, but even with victories over Triple H. at No Mercy and John Cena at Wrestlemania, he's still not proven that he could defeat them in a regular match.. Edge has proven he can do those things. So Orton needs the victory, while Edge would just thrive off of the match itself.

 

[The Legacy]

Having grown up watching Stone Cold and The Rock fued I looked forward to every monday night because I loved each character and had no idea who would have the upper hand on that particular night. An Orton/Edge fued could have the same impact as each superstar is in my opinion on the verge of their prime and are ready to create one of the all time great fueds in WWF/WWE history.

My dream scenario would see Orton win the RR and go on to defeat Cena at WM and have Edge win the Elimination Chamber at NWO only to lose to Hardy at WM because Vicki accidentely hits him with a chair or something. Edge would be crushed resulting in him moving to Raw to clear his head of Vicki and focusing on becoming the Champ again. Ultimately a face Edge would battle with a heel Orton and The Legacy possibly with help from his brother Christian Cage.

This would also allow Hardy to continue his push and go on to defend his title against HHH/MVP/Kozlov and maybe have a guy like Kennedy win the MITB again and use it to become WWE Champion.

 

[Khalifa]

Well it will Occur one SS i believe. Not Summerslam but Survivor Series is what i meant. At Depending on what happens at Mania this year. I think it will be the start of the feud this year at Mania.

This is how it will go down. Both people are number 1 contenders for the brands title. They both meet in the locker room and they say good luck and they act happy to see each other but they aren't really. Then later down the line maybe at GAB or something they appear on the same brand ( probably smackdown if triple h goes to Raw) they will be in a triple threat match and they both cost each other the title and then eventually to get another title shot they both try eliminate each other in the battle Royal but only one man succedes ( who ever is the better heel will be teh contender) they will win then they other heel turns face and faces Randy at SS for the title and will have a feud till the Rumble having A TLC and a LMS match along the way.

 

[Sparky]

I remember the fued for the title when Edge wanted to take down Evoloution. i loved that match.

1. Which brand will the feud occur on?

I have to agree and say Raw here. becouse anywhere else and it won't be a Main event match. I can also see it for the title maybe at a Wrestlemania ME.

2. Who will be the face, who will be the heel? Crap. i cant ever see either of them beeing any kind of face. Maybe one of them a tweener but not a face. I think a heel vs Heel fued could work Maybe a who is the best heel? fued or something involving ego's cos they are both pretty big. But if one has to be a face i would say Randy orton just to see it role reversed since that fued long ago.

3. Who will win?Does it matter? yes ok. I will say edge. in a TLC match. Randy can hold his own in gimmick matches. it would be interesting in seeing them compete against each other. I also think edge> Orton just. Plus i think Edge would deserve the win if it was for the title seeing he is more popular.

but i actually see it ending somehow in a Double DQ some how. just so it never gets answered.

 

[Italian MVP]

This is a big fued that the WWE hasn't properly implemented or ultilised yet. Yes they had a brief fued in 2004, but now they have both developed into better wrestles and their characters they play are some of the best today. These two will be the future, along with Cena, Punk, Kingston ect. The WWE should take time and care as this could be their biggest fued in a while along with Cena/Batista.


1. Which brand will the feud occur on? I am going to say RAW because it defiently is the superior show, and its live. But since both are on different brands I can see them spreading it on both shows and playing it as RAW v Smackdown or just disgregarding the brands there on. But if they were to be on one brand it would be RAW.

2. Who will be the face, who will be the heel? I cant see either turning face to be honest. I see this fued being heel v heel as there the best heels the WWE has got. Yes one of them could be a tweener of both, but I think they can make this fued work with them being both heels. Randy is such an badass anyway and Edge can be extreme so I think it could be done well. If one was to go face it would be Edge, but I dont think it will happen, Heel v Heel would be perfect IMO.

3. Who will win? I'd say Orton. It seems he is missing that key victory in cementy his place on top of the WWE. This could be his victory after a long fued with Edge. I also think it wont hurt Edge as much as it will Orton as Edge has a way of getting back into main event with his sneaking title wins. Orton should win as he is developing nicely and is really standing out from the rest of the roster.

 

[Showtime]

When it happens... it will be awesome, much like their match on RAW following Wrestlemania. That match was an epic bout that should've easily been at Wrestlemania, but I guess like you pointed out IC, they didn't want to give it away on a PPV just yet. Both guys are easily the two biggest heels on their respected brands. Orton just oozes pure cockiness and arrogance with a total lack of respect for anyone or anything. The man must think he's bigger than the Beatles, who once claimed to be bigger than Jesus, so that puts Orton in some kind of level that can't be measured. While Orton has played the role of the most confident and self indulgent heel in a veyr long while, his counter part Edge has played a different role. Sneaky, manipulative, crazy and opportunistic. While Orton talks the talk, he has not come close to walking the walking quite like Edge has. These two will have epic feuds one day, but to answer IC's question, when, where and how...

1. It's got to be on the RAW brand. A feud of this magnitude surely deserves to be on the flagship show. The trouble may be Vince's desire to make Smackdown equal to RAW and that may want him to move Orton to Smackdown, but on the potential that this feud could do, but they should put it on RAW. If Vince really wanted to boost Smackdowns rating, he should've put his boy Cena on Smackdown and maybe when they move Edge over, that just might be what they'll do. I also agree that a match of this magnitude should be reserved for a Wrestlemania or a Summerslam.

2. Both men have shown to play extraordinary good heels. In fact they play them both so well, they often get cheers of respect from the audience, but that doesn't necessarily make them good faces. Orton, as we know, did a crap job as a face, he's just too cocky and too much into himself to play a strong face. Edge has been heel since 05, and a very good one at that, and perhaps it may be time for him to make the move back to face. The crowd always seems to really connect with Edge and they got behind him strongly when he snapped before Summerslam, perhaps an early sign to a future face turn. The thing is, like when they had their match on RAW after Wrestlemania, I don't see why either needs to play a face, especially for the first match. I would love to see two heels as big as Orton and Edge battle it out and have the crowd totally divided between them. Every move you will probably here simultanious cheers and boos from the audience and it would be the most awesome sight ever. After the first match, I agree that Edge should go to face to continue the feud.

3. Edge won the first feud when it was for the IC title, and the match on RAW so he's already proven he can beat Orton. Edge has also beaten just about every big name there is currently in the WWE, so another win over Orton wouldn't add to much to Edge. Orton is the one who desperately needs this win. Yeah he beat HHH, but that was also HHH's third match of the night, and Orton lost in their first match. Yeah he pinned Cena at Wrestlmania, but he never got that clean one on one win over Cena that he was supposed to get at No Mercy cause of Cena's injury. Aside from Micheals, Undertaker and bunch of older washed up legends, Orton hasn't beaten too many big stars, at least not as many as Edge has. Edge is kinda moving into that stage of becoming a legend so Orton, being the legend killer, it makes sense for him to beat Edge, plus it'll be a little bit of revenge for being second banana to Edge in Team RKO. A win for Orton would do wonders for Orton, then Edge, now being humbled can complete the transformation to face and pick of the spare and even the score in their next match. Then we'll all be drooling over who will win the rubber match..... That, at least, is they way I say it should go.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

but i actually see it ending somehow in a Double DQ some how. just so it never gets answered.

That won't happen. Plain and simple, the W.W.E. isn't that type of company. That's a T.N.A. trick in my opinion, but regarding the W.W.E. they've picked a winner out of other tough decisions.

Hogan/Warrior. Hart/Michaels. Rock/Austin. All of which didn't hurt the loser, unless you wanna factor in the screwjob to Hart later on.

The bottomline is, it's a feud that would likely be ran into the ground once it did happen though. Similar to Taker/Edge, because I firmly believe both individuals would work so well with each other, they'd just continuously rematch then in every type of situation possible.

I remember the 2005 timeline when Edge/Orton feuded over the Intercontinental Championship. They had two really amazing back-to-back matches, first at Vengeance then on Raw. After that, they stopped.

I also (being an Edge fan, mind you) firmly believe Randy Orton would serve a better purpose winning the match over Edge, than Edge would by defeating Orton.

 

[RRWRAYIII]

I think this could be a huge feud. Have Edge lose to Triple H at WrestleMania after Vickie has a miscue and costs Edge the match. Afterwards he sits in the ring pissed with Vickie apologizing and pleading her sorrow. Edge then hugs her and the crowd boos. Then all of a sudden he delivers the Downward Spiral to her, causing the crowd to erupt in cheers.

Edge then moves to Raw after Vickie has "banished" him from Smackdown. He goes to Raw and begins a face run. He starts by challenging JBL and having a feud with him. At this time, Orton is World Heavyweight Champ, leading the Legacy and having them help him to each victory. Orton continues to preach he is the greatest World Champ ever, etc. After he finishes his feud with Cena after a couple re-matches, he says he is Best Ever, has beaten everybody put in his path and says he has nothing else left to prove. As a result, he holds a ceremony in the ring showcasing his greatness as he stands on a podium with the Legacy bowing to him as he cockily stands with the fans booing the hell out of him.

Edge's music hits, dressed up in jeans, jacket and sunglasses. He gets a good size pop. He then claims Orton is a little full of himself. He fails to realize he has never beaten him for a world title. Orton tries to cut him off and Edge tells him to shut his mouth. He goes off on Orton for making a mockery of the title by having his stooges do the work for him while he takes the backseat and all the credit. He wants Orton at Summerslam for the World Title. Then have them feud through Survivor Series.

Edge has the ability to be a huge face star. He has the charisma to take over and lead the show. By aligning him with the Hardy's, Christian, and somebody else in a Survivor Series match would be huge and cement him as the top face on Raw. Just a few ideas, but I think would be awesome.

 

[Joehaha]

i dont think either need to become face for this to work...i think with heels nowadays if your that good a heel you get respected, so among boos, u also hear cheers. jericho, orton, edge are the main examples of this i think.
therefore i think the feud would be amazing as like you'd take sides.
me and my mate, while we both love orton and edge, his fav is orton while mine is edge. so like he'd be marking out for orton id be marknig out for edge, it would divide fans into siding with one of them, even though their both heels. i just think this feuds a very exciting prospect and cant wait for wwe to pull the trigger on it

 

[Shocky]

I think you're actually going out on a limb actually assuming that this feud is going to happen. The WWE doesn't neccessarily give us feuds that you would think we should get.

Let's look at the Undertaker. The Undertaker and Shawn Michaels have been in the WWE for damn near 20 years a piece, and they only had one mini feud that resulted in three pretty good matches. Sure they had a feud, but not to the extent you would think they would. Then you have the Undertaker and Chris Jericho. two guys on top of the WWE food chain for the majority of this decade, but can anyone think of a pay per view match that saw these two against each other. You're talking two huge stars that have never even begun to sniff a feud with each other.

Edge and HBK have had a mini feud, but nothing that culminated with a pay per view match. John Cena hasn't feuded with the likes of teh Undertaker (outside ofa mini feud in 2003). I can't recall a Kane vs. Randy Orton feud, a Big Show vs. Orton.

For the forseeable future, both Edgea and Orton aren't going to be face, and it's very unlikely that these two would start a feud as heels with each other. If I was going to be a betting man, I would say that Edge would become the face first. Edge has a good amount of years on Orton, and presumably his career will be over sooner, which probably will result in a semi-face turn to retirement. During that feud, Orton and Edge could go at it, with Orton probably going over to solidify himself further as a heel. If this were to happen, I would imagine it would be on Raw.

 

[stupidguy5896]

Okay I know I dont post much but here it goes....

1. Which brand will the feud occur on? Is there even really an option this fued is pure raw

2. Who will be the face, who will be the heel? I say niether are face. The way I see this fued happening is the battle for the top heel in the busness. They will end up doing anything you can do i can do evilier. One wins by grabbin the ropes then the other one completely distroys the opponent after winning ect

3. Who will win? Since I dont see this feud happenig for about 2-3 years I say that Orton will wn, Edge will be on his way down Orton still in prime so the way to cement Orton as top dog is the win

 

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

Then you have the Undertaker and Chris Jericho. two guys on top of the WWE food chain for the majority of this decade, but can anyone think of a pay per view match that saw these two against each other. You're talking two huge stars that have never even begun to sniff a feud with each other.

I don't think they've even had a match against each other have they?

As Shock says, i doubt that this fued is even going to occur until 2010. Remember, they only just started the Orton/Batista fued, 4 years after they separated from Evolution. There wasn't a single match between them after Evolution had completely dispanded until this year. Rated RKO fell apart in early 2007, so by that logic we should see this fued by 2010-2011, IF both guys are still wrestling for WWE.

Otherwise, it's too difficult to tell how this fued would work out, except i am certain that Orton would come out on top. I highly doubt (and i also pray that we aren't) that we'll be still suffering through Vickie Guerrero in a year's time, and Legacy isn't going to be a factor imo.

Edge may have a stable, hopefully this time not consisting of rookies and a cruiserweight with nothing better to do, and Orton will hopefully have defeated HHH and Cena individually in straight foward singles matches and not gimmick matches, and i think that Orton will win mainly because he's got plenty of years in him, and it'll soon be time for Edge to start putting guys over. I don't mean like Kane where he's made to look like he's completely inept and can't remember how to decimate people like he claims to love to. I mean putting guys like Punk over when he's more seasoned to WWE.

Also, whoever said that people sided with Edge during the Taker fued when he was picking on Vickie, maybe that's because Taker wasn't even there and because no one is going to have sympathy for Vickie Guerrero. I don't care if both of her daughters are raped and mutilated, no one will shed a tear for Vickie G. He's also sure as hell not going to move to Raw because he's heartbroken is he? He's just going to set his sights on her like he did not 4 months ago.

(Note: I have no desire for Vickie's daughters to come to any harm, it's just how i chose to articualte my point)

Anyway, we still need a proper HHH/Edge fued that isn't just used to fill the main event slot while Taker's healing up, before we consider Orton/Edge.