Do you feel bad for John Cena?

[Validus]

"Cena also mentions that there are certain sections of the arena that have certain opinions about his ability to wrestle (referencing the "You can't wrestle" chants during the main event), he then pointed the microphone at every section to get their opinion. He says something along the lines of "even if I can't wrestle, all of you know that I sure as hell can fight." He moves on to slam the microphone, and walk angrily back to the locker room as his music plays. The lights dim and the show is over."

If you want the link to this:

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/dark-match-result-off-air-notes-from-wwe-f4w-ppv-104971

Okay , so I'm no John Cena fan , but after I read this , I actually felt sorry for the guy . I know he is not the best wrestle ever . But , he can wrestle better than us . What are your thoughts ? Do you feel bad for him ?

*NOTE: Again , I am no Cena fan , so don't be a hater . I feel that his gimmick really needs to change . But whatever that's beside the point .

 

[titadab05]

"Cena also mentions that there are certain sections of the arena that have certain opinions about his ability to wrestle (referencing the "You can't wrestle" chants during the main event), he then pointed the microphone at every section to get their opinion. He says something along the lines of "even if I can't wrestle, all of you know that I sure as hell can fight." He moves on to slam the microphone, and walk angrily back to the locker room as his music plays. The lights dim and the show is over."

If you want the link to this:

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/dark-match-result-off-air-notes-from-wwe-f4w-ppv-104971

Okay , so I'm no John Cena fan , but after I read this , I actually felt sorry for the guy . I know he is not the best wrestle ever . But , he can wrestle better than us . What are your thoughts ? Do you feel bad for him ?

*NOTE: Again , I am no Cena fan , so don't be a hater . I feel that his gimmick really needs to change . But whatever that's beside the point .

Why would I feel sorry for a guy who's rolling in millions of dollars, has all that fame, gets to do what he loves and is the poster boy for a very successful company? It'd be like asking us if we felt sorry LeBron James for not making the finals even though he's making all this money and living hte life that he wants.

Everyone has an opinion, and all of us have been called names time and again. The only difference is he can go back to his supermodel wife with his millions upon millions of dollars and just relax.

 

[Ferbian]

While it certainly can be an annoying thing to hear constantly, I do not believe that it is truly something that gets to John, he's been known to pose with the haters every now and then, he's been known to love proving the critics wrong, he proved them wrong at Wrestlemania 22, and has proved people wrong before, and after that.

I do not get all the heat John Cena gets for the "you can't wrestle" well Hulk Hogan "couldn't wrestle" neither, which I do not believe is true, they may not have the wrestling array of CM Punk, Rey Mysterio, Shawn Michaels etc. but they do have the in-ring ability to put on great matches.

John Cena does not need to change his gimmick I will say, John is doing great with his current gimmick, he's one of, if not the most over guy in the whole company, most likely back to back with Undertaker, Rey Mysterio and Randy Orton, that's a pretty good group to be put together with seeing the massive pops he gets.

I do not feel bad for John, he's a tough guy, he does this because he loves the business, and will continue to do it, sure it might get to him every now and then, but I ultimately do not see it at something that will tear him up, tear him down, as he said about the NXT rookies, he will continue to be there to make a statement, and the same goes towards the crowd.

I believe John lives by the catchphrases his gimmick gives him, never back down never quit, and if my assumption is true, John will honor those words, and continue to wrestle for a longer period of time, because of his love for the business rather than anything.

John said he wouldn't even consider going to MMA, a business where he could probably due to his size fare rather well, but the fact that he wouldn't leave the business of wrestling for any amount of money, says so much for himself that he probably won't be that affected by a few hundreds, of thousands of people chanting "you can't wrestle" when it's obvious that he gets such a huge pop, by the people who likes seeing him.

 

[Vanderhook]

No, not at all.

He's the most successful star in the WWE today and is beloved by millions of people. He has his haters, but every big star does. The above poster mentioned LeBron James. I think he probably gets even more criticism than Cena, do you feel sorry for him? It sucks, but it's something that comes with the job. If you can't deal with it, than perhaps you don't deserve the job.

 

[Validus]

Why would I feel sorry for a guy who's rolling in millions of dollars, has all that fame, gets to do what he loves and is the poster boy for a very successful company? It'd be like asking us if we felt sorry LeBron James for not making the finals even though he's making all this money and living hte life that he wants.

Everyone has an opinion, and all of us have been called names time and again. The only difference is he can go back to his supermodel wife with his millions upon millions of dollars and just relax.

Well , duh . He's the face of the company . But that's not what I am saying . I am saying I kinda feel bad for him because of all the insults he gets from the older audience .

I don't hate Cena or anything but he just never really got to me . I respect the guy as the face of the company .

 

[Vash21]

bwahahahahahahahaha.

I wish I could feel as bad as John Cena does as I go to the bank and see that 7 figure account.

Do you honestly think he cares? He is as Ferbian said the most over guy in the company. I am sometimes overly critical of the guy, I personally detest that he has to be involved in every main event picture, an even when he doesn't have the title, he is still given more than his fair share of time, but he is a good spokesman and worker. He has been built from the beginning to be the top guy in the business and wonder of wonders he is. 7 an 8 year olds love the guy. Why cater to a bunch of 17 an 18 year olds who like the hardcore R rated program they were putting on when you can have a ton of 30 somethings bringing their brood with them. Edge should be called the Rated PG Superstar.

So in answer to your question no I don't feel bad for poor heckled John Cena.

 

[Hawkeye]

I don't feel bad for him,but only because he's shown time and time again that all the Cena haters are wrong.That booing nonsense does annoy the hell outta me though.I'm nt even him and it just irks me to no end.So he has a set movelist? What do they want him to do,a freaking hurricanrana?

 

[dotty_84]

Sorry for him hmm not sure, just because he's rolling in money you can't say no your not sorry for him. He's not a Batista i couldn't see him act all egocentric if camera were rolling on him like Hogan.

He does so much behind the scenes posing for fans, helping trusts/funds etc.
I just hate how he gets booked, he can't lose clean and i think he should learn or just use a few new moves. Hell even do a flying elbow or something top rope mix it up.

I don't mind his gimmick he's positive and that's a good thing.

 

[Daniel]

Yes I do.
Sure he isn't a brilliantly technical in the ring, but he's a fucking good all-round wrestler. He's no Bryan Danielson in the ring but he does have more than five moves. He is also capable of holding a good match (Cena-Batista at WrestleMania was undeniably great).
I say he is a good all-round wrestler because ther is more to professional wrestling than how you perform in the squared circle.
In a WWE with talkers like Chris Jericho, The Miz and CM Punk, I feel that Cena is sometimes overlooked. But, my god, can he work the stick! I feel he is almost on a par with The Rock. He is funny, captivating and, dare I say it, inspiring.
And finally, the third part of what makes a wrestler great (actually, lets say fourth because character is important). The heart. The passion. The fire in his belly. Cena has that. You can see he loves the company and wrestling in general. He puts his all into everything he does. Have you ever seen a half-hearted Cena? I certainly haven't.

I don't know why he is hated. The people who don't like him give the reason "ceena only haz 5 move". That is the only reason I have come across. And it is not good enough a reason to constantly do him down. So, yes I do feel sorry for him.

 

[BigLuther]

I can't say I feel bad, but I do understand how frustrating it must be for him. He tries as hard as he can to get the fans to like him, but the adult men just refuse to budge. Most people will tell you that it is no easy feat to be a successful babyface in the WWE. To win over all the fans is not something that is easily accomplished. All Cena has to go on is "I'm not scared of anyone and I'll fight til the end." Well, that's cool and all, but it doesn't give me a reason to cheer you, John.

It's too bad WWE isn't willing to turn Cena heel. He's been face for about six years now, and many people are exhausted to death of it. A heel turn would be a breath of fresh air and might actually get some adult male fans on his side.

 

[Vash21]

Yes I do. He's no Bryan Danielson in the ring

Thats for damn sure

I feel he is almost on a par with The Rock. He is funny, captivating and, dare I say it, inspiring.

This is an insult to the greatness of the Rock. IMO the Rock was the greatest promo guy in the history of the business.

I don't know why he is hated. The people who don't like him give the reason "ceena only haz 5 move". That is the only reason I have come across. And it is not good enough a reason to constantly do him down. So, yes I do feel sorry for him.

Again their is no reason to feel sorry for a guy who is making millions of dollars doing something he obviously loves. I can't stand him because he has to be a part of the biggest angles and always has to be in the title picture. Hulk Hogan had to have something as revolutionary as the NWO for him to be able to turn heel.

For someone to be truly great they must have the ability to go from Face to Heel and vice versa. Hogan did it, Savage did it, Jericho has done it, and the Rock was a master at it. It would take some amazing creativity from a business that IMO is lacking in creativity for Cena to have a successful heel turn. He is almost unturnable right now.

 

[swamprat37]

Do i feel sorry for him?
No, not at all.
I dont like Cena, i never have. In my opinion all he has going for him is charisma, and some limited in ring ability,everything else is manufactured by VkM. He is this generations Hulk Hogan, and it always makes me wonder could John Cena's character pull off a heel turn like Hogan did, and would his Cenation..(god i feel dirty typing that) ever come back to his side again when he eventually went back to being the superhero?

 

[airvar]

I feel bad for myself and the rest of the viewers who have to deal with the ridiculous "you can't wrestle" and "cena Sucks " chants throughout his matchs.. The Rock, Stone cold, and Hogan couldn't put on a 5 star match's every night either.. It's about being entertainign and telling a story in the ring, and Cena's "five moves of doom" are part of the story he tells, hate it or not.. Every wrestler's moveset gets tremendously watered down in the WWE, because the WWE markets those trademark moves, they become part of a character.

And honestly nobody can take away the fact they guy is one of the biggest draws in wrestling and if ROH, TNA, or any other promotion could take a guy like Cena they would in a heartbeat, he is absolutely fantastic at getting people excited about his next match, and can tell a story in the ring, something some of the best "techincal wrestlers" you see have trouble with.

Remeber its about getting people to care about your character, weather they want to see you get your ass beat, or want to see you overcome the odds Cena Gets a huge reaction (both postive and negative) and sells Pay Per Views.

 

[thesweetness]

Do I feel bad for John Cena because a few people in the crowd boo him?
He is a 9 time World Champ and the most over WWE superstar in the past decade. He has millions of kids wearing his gear and adults too. Sure he isn't the greatest pure technical wrestler and he doesn't have the move-set of Dean Malenko, but he has talent and can main-event the show. The WWE needs a character like him, one that shows the kids that nothing is impossible. He is a good role-model for them. So, No I do not feel sorry for him.

 

[nwo1234life]

No i dont feel sorry for him because his character is so stale that he puts me to sleep every time he cuts a promo. I stopped caring about his ability to wrestle since he has put on classics against HHH,HBK,Y2J,Edge,Orton. But his character is so anoying since he panders to children, i just wish that either WWE would give him a edge circa 2002-2004 or turn him heel.

 

[diezel34]

Through all the Cena threads today about last night's crowd reaction, I keep coming to what all of the greats have said. Any reaction is a good reaction. I hate Cena's gimmick as much as the next guy, but isn't that why the Cena haters watch? Don't they want Randy or Edge to crap kick him? Everyone boos and chants, but when he goes to the back to locker room with whoever he was in the ring with that particular night he lives it up. To command so much attention and emotion from the crowd is the best performance evaluation in the business.

 

[TimAH]

John said he wouldn't even consider going to MMA, a business where he could probably due to his size fare rather well, but the fact that he wouldn't leave the business of wrestling for any amount of money, says so much for himself that he probably won't be that affected by a few hundreds, of thousands of people chanting "you can't wrestle" when it's obvious that he gets such a huge pop, by the people who likes seeing him.

I don't feel sorry for him at all. He's living the life that was once his dream. I doubt he stays up at night worrying about what one section of the crowd thinks about him.

As far as him going to MMA I think it would be ridiculous. He wouldnt fare rather well due to his size. I highly doubt he has the skills required to hang with actual MMA fighters. He also doesn't really appear to be athletically gifted enough to make up for the lack of skills.

 

[Henry Hill]

No I don't feel bad at all for John Cena, aside from the above mentioned reasons that he has money and gets to do what he loves and blah blah blah, None of us really have in insight to what John Cena really thinks. I don't think he's as bad as everyone on here makes him out to be. I find John Cena to be entertaining, as well as a captivating performer. I don't want to turn the TV off when Cena comes to the ring, and I know that as much as many of you will hate to admit it, John Cena comes out to perform and puts on a show you don't feel cheated by when you go home, or the PPV goes black. If there's anyone i feel sorry for its the poor bastard who has to book John Cena in this role without crossing the PG line, without crossing Vince McMahon and try to keep Cena fresh and relevant. It is nearly impossible.

 

[Ferbian]

As far as him going to MMA I think it would be ridiculous. He wouldnt fare rather well due to his size. I highly doubt he has the skills required to hang with actual MMA fighters. He also doesn't really appear to be athletically gifted enough to make up for the lack of skills.

John Cena started out as a bodybuilder, that's a plus for the whole power needed to go through with this, he could easily power bomb some of the guys I could imagine, seeing how he has lifted a guy like Sheamus, Batista and Triple H off from the ground, or Big Show for that sake.

Plus John Cena is an all American football player, something that would most likely gonna give him an advantage in the business as well.

Besides mixed martial arts can be taught, Brock Lesnar had pretty much the same background as John Cena, with the exception of some amateur wrestling, before he went into the Mixed Martial Arts business.

 

[theHeadliner]

I kinda feel bad for him. He works hard, he cares about what he does, he's always nice to his fans, etc. I remember on RAW when the fans started chanting "you can't wrestle" he started doing some real wrestling take downs and mat holds, so he can wrestle to an extent. I think this would be the perfect time to turn him into the mean, blood thirsty, resentful heel. I think fans really want to get heat on him as a bad guy and I bet if he turned on the crowd and went heel he would get the biggest reaction of the nite. A lot of people would have never thought Bret Hart would go heel, but he did and it worked. If this trend keeps happening at arenas on TV broadcast after broadcast, they should make a change.

 

[Genius_Deadman]

Well , duh . He's the face of the company . But that's not what I am saying . I am saying I kinda feel bad for him because of all the insults he gets from the older audience .

I don't hate Cena or anything but he just never really got to me . I respect the guy as the face of the company .

no i don't feel sorry for him and i'll explain why instead of just saying he sucks:

1) he's rolling in cash
2) he can't wrestle, but has he tried to improve? nope. he hears this stuff all the time but the dude is content with just being out there doing the same stuff. if you get tired of hearing "you can't wrestle", then learn new moves or quit, simple as that. he does the same routine over and over again, is it WWE telling him or is it him? who knows! if it's Vince, have him go to Vince and tell him he wants to do more moves. if it's him, then get over it and learn a new move, it's not that hard to tell someone "hey let's do a superplex" or "i'm gonna try a Fishermen's Suplex" or "i want to try a back breaker tonight", etc. Give me a break, if anyone feels sorry for him, then you should be borderline depressed about the stuff the mid-carders get put through in this ridiculous PG era

 

[Alex_U]

Its a work. Period, he is testing the waters to see how the crowd would react to a heel turn. Don't be surprised if you see him turn heel in like a month or so, hell, just wait for tonight and lets see how it goes. Also, t bring this story full circle what if Cena is named the leader for the NXT faction? It would make perfect sence considering he is the one they are always attacking. The WWE is lacking a true heel right now and i think this would be a perfect oppurtunity for him to get over as a hardcore heel.

 

[jmyers19]

With people saying how he isn't the greatest technical wrestler they've never billed him as a great technical or even a great wrestler.

I used to like Cena. I used to hate Cena. Now I've just grown up and learned to accept he's there, headling PPVs, holding World Titles, doing the same moves because the WWE have chose to put faith in him and have given him a ball to roll with and he's done just that, so I don't blame the guy. He's the face of the company.

But do I feel sorry for John? A little, yes. Love or hate the guy he works hard and is extremely dedicated to what he does. But the reason why I say a little is because he's just been honest about it and says how hes never bothered whether or not the fans love or hate him. Besides, the kids look up to him, some adults still like him which is clear when the camera goes through the crowd and shows you fathers or older fans wearing a Cena shirt. He's doing what he loves to do, earns a living and gets to entertain so that's where the other majority of me not feeling for the guy comes into it. I'll say this though the guy in the video was pretty annoying, partly for the way he went on at Cena but that's his right as a fan but partly because of just how his voice was all you could hear throughout the video, would've hated to be the people around him if they weren't on the same page as the guy.

 

[TJ Matics]

No,
I don't feel bad for Cena,
& I don't care about him throwing a hissy fit like a common 2 year old,
It's about time a crowd got to him,
He usually just smiles and acts like he doesn't care,
WE ARE TIRED OF SEEING JOHN CENA
Do I want him to be fired,
No,
Do I hate him
No,
I used to be a big John Cena fan,
But a 6 year face run in the Main Event,
EPIC FAIL
He sometimes needs to step down and let someone else have the spotlight,
Chris Jericho was put down to put over Evan,
Orton to build up Ted & Kofi (who are doing great today bcuz of their story lines w/ him)
HHH for Sheamus (who's now in the main event),
That's why when we see them we cheer because their not shoved down our throats every week,
When you back people into a corner,
Someone (or in this case, some crowd)
is going to bite/ say hard things,
I bet my left arm if Cena wasn't ALWAYS the main event
ALWAYS the headliner,
he wouldn't get so much heat,
People wouldn't notice or care that he couldn't wrestle or that his gimmick stays the same, bcuz if he followed the cycle, we'd be happy to see him,
which is

You win a title
you have a run
you loose it
you start over again,

That's the problem,
They never make Cena hit the reset button,
He gets chance after chance untill he wins it back,
which makes us mad bcuz our favs don't get that
+
It's his fault we're in this stupid PG Era
I think he got exactly what he deserved

 

[CM Pulsar]

I feel bad for John. He seems like a genuinely good guy who cares about the fans, especially the kids. Look at the amount of charity work he does. And look at the schedule he keeps. He is essentially the one guy the company never has to worry about flying off the handle or refusing to work.

That being said, the character is getting stale. Even some of the younger fans are getting a little tired of him I think. And with Orton face now, all the older fans have latched onto him.

So maybe a heel turn is in order. Not an instant overnight one, but a gradual one where Cena seems more and more shaken by the mixed reactions he gets until finally he just plain SNAPS and asks, "Why do you people shit on me when all I have ever done is bust my ass for you?!"

Because he has been booked as near-invincible for so long, making him a cowardly heel won't work. But if you book him as a MONSTER heel, it will not only work it will generate an insane amount of heat.