Didn't Think They Would Do It...

[GrandSword]

Seems TNA have released the DVD of this year's Victory Road marketing it as the "most controversial Main Event in TNA history"

http://www.madman.com.au/actions/catalogue.do?method=view&releaseId=14689

To be honest I'm really surprised they would make a DVD out of the event, seeing they gave all those who ordered it free access to their video vault for a certain amount of time...

Don't mean to open old wounds but this is an interesting move by the company...

 

[itssoeasy123]

How in the lbue fuckin' hell is the main event controversial! It's more than controversial, it's a disgrace. A disgrace to TNA, their fans, the people that bought the show, the people that cheer and stand by Jeff Hardy. The whole thing is like when the booker allowed Scott Hall to walk out on that Indie show drunk and/or high only to have a famous name on his program, it's the same thing. That's why in wrestling you have back-up plan's, if things don't go the way they should, you change them. If TNA personal found Jeff Hardy high out of his mind backstage, why did Bischoff and the other's allow him to go out there in that state, for kicks? Becuase they though it was controversial? Becuase hey, they did it once with Scott Hall in WCW, why not try it with Jeff Hardy in TNA?

Controversial my ass! It's a fuckin' disgrace to TNA what happened that night and if TNA had any decency or self-respect, they would'nt promote that match, but take it out of the show.

 

[madrox]

Woah, calm down there.

It was Dixie's decision apparently to let him go out there while everyone else seemed to want the match changed. Blame her not Bischoff, he doesn't have a hand in ANY decisions backstage in TNA.

As far as the dvd release.....why not try to make some money out of it? I'd buy it even though I saw it and other TNA ppvs free on tv days after they aired live (Destination X is this wednesday, looking forward to it).

Dixie screwed up letting him go out and compete, it's a business so why not get the money back and also stop any fans complaining about it being taken off the release? I know somebody who was angry at WWE editing out Ric Flair saying "I don't think so, motherfucker" to The Rock during their WM20 match as strange as that may sound. Other things WWE removed from dvds that were harmless compared to the Victory Road main event (such as Mickie James escaping a facelock by grabbing at Trish's crotch and a variety of other things too numerous to mention) have received fan complaints after all.

Thing is, there are fans out there who never got to see the ppv themselves and want to own something like this so again, they'll lap it up and buy the dvd regardless of what went down.

Now could TNA have tried to hurry proceedings, have Sting win and then put Anderson or RVD in a quick unannounced match to make up for it? Sure but hindsight's always a funny thing and the best ideas always come from looking back at what we should've said or done. In this case, any news on potential extras or is it just a straight up thing like WWE's releases, ie ppv then a few dvd exclusive interviews?

 

[CommonSense]

wow lol, imagine someone that didn't hear about the event, buys the dvd and sees it .

I guess its smart in a way they should at least sell the dvd for less tho.

 

[Madeye36]

I think it's a disgrace to wrestling. The release of the dvd saying it was a controversial main event & Hardy for coming out in the main event of a ppv in the condition he was in!

 

[makeitvab]

http://www.amazon.com/Tna-Against-O...ef=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1310376606&sr=1-1

^ That's what we get in the U.S and was a pretty good deal IMO.

That being said, I enjoyed Against All Odds and Victory Road overall, and was more surprised that WWE left in the "We Want Benoit" chants at Vengeance/NOC the night he did what he did.

Oh and forgot to mention, on packaging here in U.S it doesn't try and cash in on Jeff's doucheyness.

 

[hunterXhunter21]

I think some may be have forgot what controversial means. "Giving rise to or likely to give rise to controversy or public disagreement" - Oxford American Dictionary. Dixie made the choice to let Hardy wrestle that naight. Which then gave rise to a public disagreement. Them using the line "most controversial Main Event in TNA history" is marketing. Maybe they knew most of their normal PPV DVD buyers were not going to buy this cause of the main event. Giving it this tag line will sell copies to casual wrestling fans who 1.don't know what happened or 2. Will want to see it again on their tv not on their computer. Plus the word controversial is a buzz word. If I'm walking around Best Buy and see the word out of the corner of my eye, Ill stop and see what it is. It is all about making money.

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

Interesting. I respect the fact that TNA aren't hiding away from it. Yes it was embarassing for Jeff, Sting, Dixie, Bischoff etc but it takes more balls to share something bad than pretend it never happened at all and lock it away. It may also be a gesture to Jeff Hardy that he isn't getting off the hook for what he did and that repercussions will happen for his actions.

From what I remember the rest of the card was pretty good, so it's not as if people are ONLY buying the Main Event, there's plenty other wrestling going on too.

Plus who can forget "Controversy Creates Cash"?

 

[TheHitMark-SirJoseOle]

You people who are wining and crying about this move are all seriously fucking stupid, flipping out over something like this, the thing I'd be MORE pissed off about is what they charge for these fucking events in the first place. Seriously, PPVs these days are going are all pushing triple digits in the way of price.

So yeah boo hoo, the Hardy-Sting main event was controversial, but let me tell you one thing, it's not like this was that SIGNIFICANT of an event where it made the major news the next day like Owen Hart's death. If you want to talk about a disgrace in wrestling like that idiot itssoeasy123 was talking about. Let's discuss the time Vince McMahon continued the Over The Edge event despite Owen's almost-instant death.

Yes, they never released it on home video, I understand that, but this whole idea of "giving the fans what they want" and the "show must go on" is kind of debatable, considering that the death of Owen Hart was an occurrence that was outright screwed up and the Jeff Hardy fiasco has nothing on that situation.

So OP thanks for opening up the flood gates of what might end up being a bevy of cunt smarkitude and judging from itssoeasy123 being the first one to reply, you're on a pretty good pace of having other fucking idiots reply. Congrats.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

It's a PPV not affected by tragedy, of course you sell it. At the heels of the hunt, there was one match in an eight match carded ruined. Yes, it was the Main Event but it was still only one match.

I'm pretty sure the WWe released WrestleMania despite the Snooki & Corre matches lasting no time, Sheamus & Bryan getting dumped to dark match duty and not even allowing them that, more promos and backstage skits than a 3 hour RAW AND a Dusty finish in the main event to set up NEXT years event.

One man messed up the Main Event of Victory Road, a whole team created the debacle that was WrestleMania.

 

[Da Truth]

I think they're doing the right thing by selling the ppv dvd. I mean why not make money off of it. They can not take the WWE point of view on things and try to blot it out of history. It happened, so make money off it.

 

[The Perfect Max]

Look, as some may know, I am no TNA fan. However, I still buy each PPV from WWE when it comes out, even if it is a bit shitty (Over the Limit 2011). But, you can't not release the DVD because TNA fans (yes they have some) will still want to watch it.

What I do not agree with is the tagline:
"The Most Controversial Main Event in TNA History"
If it was me, I would change it to:
"If You Thought WrestleMania was Shit, wait for this"
Would sell better in my honest opinion.

 

[Dizzy]

So, let me get this straight. A PPV has 7 matches...one match doesn't turn out good and TNA should not sell the PPV and the other 6 matches?

See, fans like this is why wrestling is failing. They think they know shit when they look stupid in the eyes of everyone who has a brain.

You buy a DVD for the entire show. Not for one match. People will buy Victory Road for the fact they liked the other matches like Jarret vs Angle which was a good one.

The match was far from disgraceful. Unless you own a computer, you will never know what really happened. Nobody died, nobody broke bones, therefore there is no reason for them not sell it.

This is TNA. This is not WWE where they throw their mistakes under the rug and make dumbass fans like a few in here act like they never happened like Chris Benoit. They sent out an apology for the match, there is nothing more they can do to please you.

 

[Dieter_Von_Cunth]

It amazes me what people put up here as a thread. This is exactly what is wrong with wrestling these days. Too many people bitching and moaning at any little damn thing. They get their little panties in a bundle over shit that really is nothing. TNA would be stupid if they didn't release the pay per view on DVD. They owned up to the shitty main event. Who cares if they are releasing it as "the most controversial match of the year"? It's called marketing their DVD's. Stop bitching

 

[D-Man]

Who gives a shit, really? They produced the PPV and now they want us to buy it. Just because it had a "controversial" main event doesn't mean they shouldn't sell it. I'm sure they understand the backlash they might receive but either way, this PPV has now gone down as a piece of TNA's history.

 

[shattered dreams]

Controversy creates cash. I knew it was a work the whole time!

Anyway, why would they not sell the PPV? It probably actually would be a breach of contract with their distributor if they did not release it. If you have to release it then you should at least try and give people a reason to buy it. Regardless of the embarrassment surrounding what happened it is undeniable that this was an extremely hot topic at the time.

 

[Barbedwire Ropes]

You people who are wining and crying about this move are all seriously fucking stupid, flipping out over something like this, the thing I'd be MORE pissed off about is what they charge for these fucking events in the first place. Seriously, PPVs these days are going are all pushing triple digits in the way of price.

So yeah boo hoo, the Hardy-Sting main event was controversial, but let me tell you one thing, it's not like this was that SIGNIFICANT of an event where it made the major news the next day like Owen Hart's death. If you want to talk about a disgrace in wrestling like that idiot itssoeasy123 was talking about. Let's discuss the time Vince McMahon continued the Over The Edge event despite Owen's almost-instant death.

Yes, they never released it on home video, I understand that, but this whole idea of "giving the fans what they want" and the "show must go on" is kind of debatable, considering that the death of Owen Hart was an occurrence that was outright screwed up and the Jeff Hardy fiasco has nothing on that situation.

Leave it to a TNA smark to defend the Sting vs Hardy match at Victory Road. I've only ever heard 2 people say anything positive relating to that match and you are one of them. Go figure. The fact you are trying to compare this to the Owen Hart tragedy is beyond ridiculous. The world lost a talented wrestler that day who gave his heart, body, mind and soul to the business. Leave a dead man, who can't defend himself, alone.

If TNA were run by intelligent individuals this DVD would have never seen the light of day. Put the one or two matches of the event that were actually good on a "best-of" collection or something but to publish a DVD on the entire event, and promote it on the absolutely mind-blowing terrible quality of the main event is just pure idiocy. Who the hell could possibly think marketing the worst point in your company's history and to release it on DVD would be a good idea? Honestly. Its mind-blowing how dumb of a move that was.

So OP thanks for opening up the flood gates of what might end up being a bevy of cunt smarkitude and judging from itssoeasy123 being the first one to reply, you're on a pretty good pace of having other fucking idiots reply. Congrats.

Well, this is an interesting quote. You don't see yourself as a smark idiot? Really? Really?

Seriously, PPVs these days are going are all pushing triple digits in the way of price.

Your sig about my apparent lack of grammar skills is now very ironic with this mass of intelligent and sophisticated literature.

 

[TheHitMark-SirJoseOle]

Leave it to a TNA smark to defend the Sting vs Hardy match at Victory Road. I've only ever heard 2 people say anything positive relating to that match and you are one of them. Go figure. The fact you are trying to compare this to the Owen Hart tragedy is beyond ridiculous. The world lost a talented wrestler that day who gave his heart, body, mind and soul to the business. Leave a dead man, who can't defend himself, alone.

Um, right...yeah. I don't remember necessarily saying anything particularly positive or negative about the whole Sting and Jeff Hardy Victory Road situation. I think you are writing just a wee bit too much into my response to the OP.

And yeah I am going to compare this to the Owen Hart tragedy, think about it like this, the WWF went ahead with continuing an event as a dead man got rolled out of the arena, and you people are seriously going to whine about TNA releasing a DVD that has what I'll admit was a disappointment of a main event, but seriously who gives a shit? Like other posters who happen to be TNA fans, there are other matches that were on that show after all. It's obvious TNA's fan base wants the DVD, sorry if that's making your cunt sting there you miserable little dilettante.

If TNA were run by intelligent individuals this DVD would have never seen the light of day. Put the one or two matches of the event that were actually good on a "best-of" collection or something but to publish a DVD on the entire event, and promote it on the absolutely mind-blowing terrible quality of the main event is just pure idiocy. Who the hell could possibly think marketing the worst point in your company's history and to release it on DVD would be a good idea? Honestly. Its mind-blowing how dumb of a move that was.

WAHHHH WAHHHH WAHHHH!!!! That pretty much sums up this line fuckstick.

You don't see yourself as a smark idiot? Really? Really?

Well....let's put it like this. I am not making unfounded or outrageous claims about how to run a business that I am not involved in. My role is to merely be a fan and watch the product. I'm not the one here swearing by the dirt sheets as gospel. Evidently you do, at least that's what I'm reading from the other shitty posts I've seen you submit on here.

Your sig about my apparent lack of grammar skills is now very ironic with this mass of intelligent and sophisticated literature.

Well, Mr. Academia you're the man with the sky high GPA, then I would expect to see you have the most impeccable of posts with every comma, semi-colon and period in the right places. But my dear lad like I said earlier, no one really gives a fuck about your backstory. Sorry. However, if you're going to brag about yourself to the mass exodus of people sitting behind a keyboard then be my guest, but really dude no one gives a shit.

As far my bringing up Owen Hart in this matter I reserve that right. Seriously while Sting vs Hardy was a poorly booked main event in my opinion, at least no one got killed and there wasn't this indignant attitude to keep the show going. Granted WWF never went the route to promote Owen's death and release a DVD of the event, but seriously wake the fake up. None of these wrestling organizations specialize in humanitarianism. If TNA wants to release Victory Road so fucking be it...obviously the only reason you're posting this reply is to play a game of oneupsmanship with me and that's fine, fine by me troll.

Bottom line, if you want to debate with me and label me as a "smark", not only will I fire at you with my own ammo, which I have plenty of. But I PROMISE that any missed rounds you fire back at me (which have been pretty much all of them) will come right back at you a thousand times harder.

It's like this puto, real wrestling fans don't give a shit about rumors, they don't give a shit about the yellow journalism and real fans don't profess themselves to be experts of the wrestling artform. We just enjoy what we see on the kayfabe side of things and leave it at that.

While assholes like you want to whine and cry and tout about your achievements to an anonymous group of people in cyberspace, well then that's your prerogative. Go figure.

 

[nwogiant33]

They should leave it alone, although it was a bad moment for TNA, it still happened. You can't erase it from the minds of fans, so why erase it from a DVD? The disgraceful acts by Chris Benoit got him erased from wrestling, but that doesn't mean I don't remember him for the great performer he was. The same idea applies here with the Hardy/Sting match. It was disgraceful, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

 

[UnBEARaBULLfan]

I cant believe people are making such a big deal about this. Its a dvd with a mainevent that had a fucked up ending to it so what, shit happens its a part of their history, at least they're not just acting like it never happend and sweeping it under the rug. If you don't want it don't buy it, I'm sure they do have some fans that buy all of their dvds and would want to add this one to their collection. Besides it not like it's a big secret people know what happend, it's not like they're gonna buy it and be pissed about the mainevent and feel like they got ripped off.

 

[Dieter_Von_Cunth]

I don't think anybody is defending the piece of shit main event between Hardy and Sting. It was a shame what happened. Completely unexcusable. TNA owned up to it and they went on from there. They aren't pretending it didn't happen. What the fuck do you want them to do about it then? Do you want all the higher ups of TNA wrestling to come out and drop to a knee and beg for forgiveness? It fucking happened. If they want to release the DVD, who the fuck cares. Everybody knows how fucking shitty that main event was. If TNA wants to put a spin on it saying, "the most controversial main event of the year", then so be it. They're trying to market the DVD the best way they can. I don't blame then one bit for doing it.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

I don't think anybody is defending the piece of shit main event between Hardy and Sting. It was a shame what happened. Completely unexcusable. TNA owned up to it and they went on from there. They aren't pretending it didn't happen. What the fuck do you want them to do about it then? Do you want all the higher ups of TNA wrestling to come out and drop to a knee and beg for forgiveness? It fucking happened. If they want to release the DVD, who the fuck cares. Everybody knows how fucking shitty that main event was. If TNA wants to put a spin on it saying, "the most controversial main event of the year", then so be it. They're trying to market the DVD the best way they can. I don't blame then one bit for doing it.

Agreed, what was TNA suppose to do take the WWE approach and delete the PPV from history over one Main-Event? Yeah it was ruined, but TNA owned up to it and are trying to make money off it. TNA would be crazy for not cashing in on that controversy, remember controversy creates cash.

 

[TheHitMark-SirJoseOle]

Agreed, what was TNA suppose to do take the WWE approach and delete the PPV from history over one Main-Event? Yeah it was ruined, but TNA owned up to it and are trying to make money off it. TNA would be crazy for not cashing in on that controversy, remember controversy creates cash.

Good point AntiChristDecide, I am not extolling TNA as being the wisest for this stunt happening in the first place, but it's obvious that if you even defend one thing about TNA or mention how companies like WWE have had their share of fuck ups every now and then you get branded as a TNA mark. But then again we're basically dealing with a majority of users on these forums who are idiots anyone and would probably apply the same logic they do with wrestling towards important topics like world politics. That's how sad the stupidity level is around "these here parts", just read anything that ittssoeasy123 and BarbedWireRopes write. Their view on TNA's business practices and their always eloquent sentiments towards the company would lead you to think that they should both march down to Nashville, Tennessee and tell Dixie Carter to hire both of them to take the "book" from Vince Russo. I am not going to necessarily say I like everything Russo's ever done, but it seems pretty obvious those two armchair experts can only piss and moan about the product, it's sad what anonymity and a computer can do to the pathetic minds of beatoffs like them.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

They probably should release the PPV on DVD, as there are fans who will want to buy it to add to their collection, enjoy some of the matches on the show and it IS a controversial topic.

However, perhaps it could have been released at a lower price than usual, and with some way of informing fans who don't know about the shitty main event, that it sucks and lasts about 2 minutes.

It is an embrassing incident for TNA, but at least they are not trying to delete it from history and pretending it didnt exist, and are trying to make the best of it. At least we havent seen Jeff Hardy on TV since then, I was totally expecting him to be back within a month like nothing had happened.

 

[ABMorales787]

I don't see the issue. The entire In Your House PPV series and Armageddon 04 and 05 are on VHS/DVD. Why should TNA not release Victory Road? So the main event bombed because Hardy was stoned. It's not like a DVD doesn't have special features and other extras.