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Daniel Bryan - Here is the best example of WWE not being all that great these days...I dont know what WWE saw in him that they made him win the MITB and then win the World title and finally letting him main event Wrestlemania...

I cant see a thing in him which makes him World champion...He rarely gets heat from the fans nor did he get great cheers when he was a face...People have no reaction when he comes out and i wont blame them because he's boring to the corre...His mic skills are pathetic...there is nothing interesting when he speaks...and his in-ring ability are just okay...He doesnt even look like a champion (which could have been excused if other things about him were cool)...

The Question is why did the wwe make him win mitb and then the title...There were many good contenders like Cody and Wade who could have won...They too are the part of the future and i'm sure they definitely would have done a better job...Others like The Miz, Christian and even Mark Henry have been held back to make way for him which doesnt make a lot of sense...

If at all(and i doubt a lot) wwe saw talent in him...an overall talent...then wwe should have given him a good run before making him the champion...I personally feel they have hurried him to the title...
 
The Question is why did the wwe make him win mitb and then the title...There were many good contenders like Cody and Wade who could have won...They too are the part of the future and i'm sure they definitely would have done a better job...Others like The Miz, Christian and even Mark Henry have been held back to make way for him which doesnt make a lot of sense...

Let's wade through the bullshit here for a second.

How did Bryan winning the title hold Miz back? I mean, it's amazing that a Smackdown guy can hold a Raw guy back. The Miz was champion for five months. If you can relate Bryan winning the title in any way to Miz being supposedly held back, I will be astonished. The Miz hasn't had a great run lately but you can't relate that to Bryan winning.

Christian had the feud of the year IMO with Orton and won the title twice when most thought he wasn't never going to win it. Christian was injured when Bryan won the title. You're failing miserably.

Mark Henry had a great heel run with the title and went over Orton twice and he got injured. Stop while you're behind.

If at all(and i doubt a lot) wwe saw talent in him...an overall talent...then wwe should have given him a good run before making him the champion...I personally feel they have hurried him to the title...

I didn't like the booking up to when he got the title but I like him as champion. He's solid in the ring and I love his mic work as of late. What made him winning the title any different then someone like Del Rio?
 
Oh man get ready to get murdered by a bunch of fanboys....

I agree with you 100%. Theres nothing interesting about him and I bet guys like The Rock and SCSA get a chuckle out of the fact that their careers lived mostly off their personalities and their success as well as the success of guys like The Undertaker, John Cena, etc can be attributed for the most part to their charisma, not the acrobatics they did in the ring. WWE is trying something new with pleasing the internet fans as well as preserving their image which is why we have a bunch of internet darlings with strange eating habits dominating the title scene on both brands. To be honest I think the IWC is probably the last group other than little children that cares about wrestling. They've lost most regular adults and according to reports a while back, teenagers as well. So they're trying to please the last strong group of fans they have left.
 
Glorified jobbers Daniel Bryan and CM Punk as champions is the reason why the WWE is swirling around the drain of irrelevancy. I'm glad that people are finally realizing it. I mean, people around here love their "indy" style and roots, but seriously, they live in complete denial that they are dragging the whole show down. There's a reason why both of them are going to be at least two matches from the top of the card. at WM And they're champions. Think about it.

Santino gets much better reactions from the crowd than either champion. Santino. Let that sink in for a bit.

Bryan especially is shit. He does absolutely nothing interesting (just because he kicks a million times doesn't mean he's "great" in the ring). He never has, never will. His promos don't make me hate him a heel like he is supposed to be, he makes me change the channel. I'm not alone, because it's been proven that Bryan segments are some of the lowest rated on the show. The belt almost assuredly is going on Seamus at WM, and once that happens, Bryan is going to fade off into irrelevancy.
 
Oh man get ready to get murdered by a bunch of fanboys....

What a pathetic way to preface a post. You wrote that to make anyone who argues against your bullshit look like a "fanboy".

I agree with you 100%. Theres nothing interesting about him and I bet guys like The Rock and SCSA get a chuckle out of the fact that their careers lived mostly off their personalities and their success as well as the success of guys like The Undertaker, John Cena, etc can be attributed for the most part to their charisma, not the acrobatics they did in the ring. WWE is trying something new with pleasing the internet fans as well as preserving their image which is why we have a bunch of internet darlings with strange eating habits dominating the title scene on both brands. To be honest I think the IWC is probably the last group other than little children that cares about wrestling. They've lost most regular adults and according to reports a while back, teenagers as well. So they're trying to please the last strong group of fans they have left.

This is absolutely nothing to do with the internet fans. Pushing world champions to appeal to a small demographic is not in the WWE's best interests. Use your head, dummy.

I could reel off a bunch of reasons why Daniel Bryan is great - his in-ring ability, acting and strong reactions all spring to mind. But the main one is this: Daniel Bryan is great because WWE think he's great. He wouldn't be going into WrestleMania with the big, gold belt if he was a poor champion. Or if he wasn't over. You might not find him interesting, but the thousands of people booing him when he calls himself a "role model" beg to differ.
 
How did Bryan winning the title hold Miz back? I mean, it's amazing that a Smackdown guy can hold a Raw guy back. The Miz was champion for five months. If you can relate Bryan winning the title in any way to Miz being supposedly held back, I will be astonished. The Miz hasn't had a great run lately but you can't relate that to Bryan winning.

Christian had the feud of the year IMO with Orton and won the title twice when most thought he wasn't never going to win it. Christian was injured when Bryan won the title. You're failing miserably.

Mark Henry had a great heel run with the title and went over Orton twice and he got injured. Stop while you're behind.

Miz was just an example...The question still remains why Bryan...He doesnt have the personality of a top face or of a top heel...then why give him the top spot...and what great mic skills does he have...Who cares whether he's a vegetarian or non-vegetarian or man eater...People are least interested...it just looks a poor elaboration of the straight edge thoughts...

And of-course he's holding back other talent...Miz could have very well been drafted to smackdown and he could have continued with the push which he had got by becoming WHC...and Mark Henry was performing even though he was injured...so why not let him continue his title run...Atleast he was interesting...Such good talent Smackdown have and yet they made Bryan the champion-a pity in IMO...
 
And of-course he's holding back other talent...Miz could have very well been drafted to smackdown and he could have continued with the push which he had got by becoming WHC...and Mark Henry was performing even though he was injured...so why not let him continue his title run...Atleast he was interesting...Such good talent Smackdown have and yet they made Bryan the champion-a pity in IMO...

I'm sure Vince had a meeting with Bryan and Miz and asked each one of them why they should be drafted to Smackdown. I'm sure Bryan played politics and didn't want Miz to be on Smackdown. I wonder if you would be saying these things if Miz was continued to be pushed on Raw.

Up until the summer, everyone thought Henry was a joke because he did nothing with the company for almost two decades. He got his title run and was damn impressive but I guess you're going to be like the ones who thought Christian wasn't going to win it again after the first time.
 
So, in a nutshell, this thread boils down to ragging on Bryan simply because you don't like him and would rather see someone else in his spot. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself in my view because no wrestler appeals to every fan.

However, the problem is that you're stating personal opinion and representing it as fact. The facts in and of themselves don't seem to rerflect your opinion in the minds of the majority of fans. You don't like Bryan as a performer but the consistent response that Bryan gets on every show suggests that a considerable majority of the WWE audience doesn't share that view point. They obviously enjoy his promos as he draws very good heat and they're also interested in his wrestling matches. In a nutshell, Daniel Bryan has been able to make the majority of fans interested in his matches, his promos & his feuds and that is exactly what a champion, especially a main event champion, is supposed to do. You not liking Bryan doesn't alter the fact that he's very over at this point.

As to your idea that Bryan is somehow holding back other talent, I don't see where you're coming from at all nor do I see any sort of sound reasoning to back you up. The Miz hasn't been held back by Bryan, The Miz has been in hot water with the WWE brass for months. Unjustly, some blame Miz for the lower than expected Survivor Series ppv buys. It's not his fault that he & Truth were built to look like a couple of flakes compared to Cena & Rock. There are reports that Miz also no longer has the drive that he used to have or the passion, which I can't say for sure is true or not. He did catch a ton of heat, this time deservedly so, for the botched spot with R-Truth on Raw a few weeks back. So, how is Bryan exactly holding Miz back? There's been heat on Miz since before Daniel Bryan was even in the SD! main event scene.

As for Mark Henry, there was talk at one time that Henry's injuries could keep him out of action for months, maybe even to WM. Knowing that, the WWE made a choice to take the title off Henry. He's obviously healed up since then, but the WWE would face even more criticism by just taking the title off Bryan now that Henry is getting back into the mix of things. Also, as I pointed out earlier, Daniel Bryan is over right now, which means he's been doing well as champion, so WWE has kept the title on him.

You mentioned Christian as well but, as has already been pointed out, Christian has been out for several months with an ankle injury. He only made his return to WWE television in any way, shape or form this past Sunday at the Elimination Chamber ppv. He was put out of action, again, long before Bryan was elevated to the main event picture.

I'm not gonna jump all over someone if they're just not into Bryan, or any other wrestler for that matter, but I do have an issue with trying to pass off opinion as facts, especially when the actual facts seem to reflect the exact opposite of what you say.
 
Did someone use Miz and talent in the same sentence?!? If you want to know why the Miz isn't a champion look no further than the Miz himself. He is very limited in the ring, every single promo is exactly the same and he nearly killed Good Little R-Truth. It also doesn't help that Maryse left - see Drew McIntyre.

The WWE is horrible with politics but Daniel Bryan's title reign has nothing to do with why the Miz & Mark Henry aren't champions right now. One of them is buried in the doghouse, the other is very limited in the ring, well over 30 years-old and has been fighting injuries.

To point out crowd reactions is pretty stupid as well. In order for a wrestler to garnish a reaction the WWE has to put them in compelling story lines and write their characters well. Until the heel turn Daniel Bryan was written very stale. Why would the fans pop for him when they did so little with him. However, the heel turn was done very well and he is gathering more and more heat every week. His program with Sheamus will only help things along as Sheamus is a huge fan favorite - something that can't be said for the Big Show or Mark Henry. If the feud going into WrestleMania fails then they will probably move on, but if it goes over I doubt they just bury Daniel Bryan after the match.

For the person who pointed out that CM Punk isn't over, well that's just ridiculous. He sells more merchandise than anyone and gets huge pops all the time. He could have been much more had the WWE not neutered him over the Summer, but they haven't exactly been geniuses when it comes to the creative department. His feud with Jericho has been written very poorly thus far but I have faith in both Punk and Jericho to step it up a notch with the promos over the next month.
 
I think you're being a little tough on Bryan, but I will say I do agree with a lot of your points.

I'm not exactly a Bryan fan, but I'm not really a hater, either. I think I tend more toward dislike, but perhaps my lack of strong reaction supports your theory.

I agree he's not the best on the mic yet. He does lack charisma quite a bit, and frequently I do tune out a bit when he speaks. He hasn't exactly looked like the best champion yet, partially due to how he's booked I think, since they haven't had him win clean in forever, it seems. But a lot of the "image" or "look" of a champion is tied in with charisma and mic work, so I think it's a little of both that's contributing to the problem.

As for his in-ring work, I have no issues, I think he's pretty solid. I wouldn't mind seeing a few more moves, and a lot of people have said he did like 5000 moves in the indies, which I will admit I have not really seen much of. So I accept that as fact, I just wish they would have him show a bit more in the E.

So overall, I would agree, I think there is room for improvement. To be fair, I think he has improved his mic work a bit lately, but he still has a way to go. It also wouldn't hurt if they let him appear a bit stronger in his wins, but I think that will be coming now that we're on our way to WM.

I think we're in for a pretty good match with Bryan/Sheamus at WM.
 
I agree, in a short summary of my opinion of Daniel Bryan; The man is boring (Heel or Face), the man doesn't seem to get over with very many fans, the only thing he can do correctly is wrestle.

Even though it was in character, when Michael Cole was ripping Daniel Bryan, he was 100% right

I just don't see how he is Main Eventing WrestleMania, I enjoy Sheamus, but Daniel Bryan ruins that match for me. If Bryan walks out champion, I really don't know how I will feel. He should of been given a Summer reign 1st, not WM season
 
Miz was just an example...The question still remains why Bryan...He doesnt have the personality of a top face or of a top heel...then why give him the top spot...and what great mic skills does he have...Who cares whether he's a vegetarian or non-vegetarian or man eater...People are least interested...it just looks a poor elaboration of the straight edge thoughts...

And of-course he's holding back other talent...Miz could have very well been drafted to smackdown and he could have continued with the push which he had got by becoming WHC...and Mark Henry was performing even though he was injured...so why not let him continue his title run...Atleast he was interesting...Such good talent Smackdown have and yet they made Bryan the champion-a pity in IMO...

Maybe if Miz worked a little better with his basic wrestling skills like protecting people and not botching stuff every other match he might still have that spot.

Mark Henry was injured so why not let him continue? Erm...hes injured? He cant keep going and going while injured. Doing that would just risk his long term future.

Daniel Bryan is actually being a great heel at the moment. He may not get huge reactions from the crowd but he seems to get as much heat as Henry did as champ. Bryan is playing a little weasel perfectly at the moment. And its making people want to see Sheamus kick the crap out of him at WM.

You've made it painfully obvious in your posts that you dislike Daniel Bryan and are using this as an excuse to bash his title run. His character has just gotten interesting after about 18 months of it being stale.

He doesnt have great mic skills, true, then again neither does Mark Henry, Or even Randy Orton.

And as far as your question as to why he won it compared to Cody and Wade...Well Cody and Wade are being built correctly instead of being thrust into the spotlight which WWE do all too often with heels. Cody's build since the end of 2010 has been fantastic, and that will propell him into one of the WWE's top heels. Barrett was also picking up steam.

Daniel Bryan is a brilliant wrestler. Maybe thats why hes been given this chance? The guy has busted his arse for over 10 years now doing something The Miz never did. Paying his dues.

Maybe thats why he deserves to be world champion instead of a botchaholic moron with a face like a platapus.

And when you say such good talent smackdown has...what talent are you taking about? The talent to put on a good wrestling match each time youre out there? The talent to know how to work a match properly? The talent of knowing in ring psychology? Or the talent to just talk on the mic? Because when you list Bryan with Miz and Henry, theres no way either of those 2 can compete with Bryan on what i listed. Only Miz has decent Mic skills.

I agree, in a short summary of my opinion of Daniel Bryan; The man is boring (Heel or Face), the man doesn't seem to get over with very many fans, the only thing he can do correctly is wrestle.

Even though it was in character, when Michael Cole was ripping Daniel Bryan, he was 100% right

I just don't see how he is Main Eventing WrestleMania, I enjoy Sheamus, but Daniel Bryan ruins that match for me. If Bryan walks out champion, I really don't know how I will feel. He should of been given a Summer reign 1st, not WM season

Because Bryans character of being a little weasel that somehow gets wins against others by various means makes you want to gauge your eyes out and scream. In which case, most will want to buy WM to see him get whats coming to him. Thats the whole point of his character.
 
You are right, it would be pathetic to future endeavour such a great talent. Since he has been champ, ratings have risen. Whoever the champ is, gets the praise or blame for if business is up or down. It all rides on their shoulders
 
I cant see a thing in him which makes him World champion...He rarely gets heat from the fans nor did he get great cheers when he was a face...People have no reaction when he comes out and i wont blame them because he's boring to the corre...His mic skills are pathetic...there is nothing interesting when he speaks...and his in-ring ability are just okay...He doesnt even look like a champion (which could have been excused if other things about him were cool)...

If you think Daniel Bryan's in-ring ability is just okay, you must not be a fan of real wrestling. He could out perform most of the Smackdown and Raw roster. His mic skills are decent, but he's getting better every week. He came from Ring of Honor where they focused on wrestling a lot more then mic skills.
 
And of-course he's holding back other talent...

If this isn't sarcasm, I have never laughed so hard at such a bullshit attempt at being serious in my life... Given the depth of the Smackdown roster, I would have to say that Daniel Bryan really isn't holding back anybody except maybe AJ? I would love to see how you can justify that statement.


Miz could have very well been drafted to smackdown and he could have continued with the push which he had got by becoming WHC...

Miz could have very well been struck by lightning while riding a 10-speed through lower Manhattan on New Years Eve while dressed as the Easter Bunny...

and Mark Henry was performing even though he was injured...so why not let him continue his title run...Atleast he was interesting...Such good talent Smackdown have and yet they made Bryan the champion-a pity in IMO...

This was the most perplexing of all... The fact that you believe Mark Henry to be interesting is probably where you prove that your judgement is not very sound. If by interesting, you mean monotone, has no personality, and moves like a slowly drying sack of cement, well then I guess you're right. Then my truck is interesting, lets put the belt on it!

And as far as going off of crowd reactions... we're talking about the same crowds that Boo'd and "WHAT'd" The Undertaker on Monday.

I lol'd at the "holding Miz back" part. If you took the time to post on these forums, surely you took the time to read that The Miz has been in the doghouse for a few different reasons. The only person holding him back is himself. Opinion is NOT fact, no matter how you spin it.
 
This post is ridiculous, I am not an indy fan at all and have not watched a program since 2002. I returned watching wwe right after summerslam. D-bry and Punk are awesome at working the crowds. They can perform in the ring and work with just about any star. They are entertaining to watch, and are both getting a solid reaction from the crowd, which is more than I can say than the majority of the roster. Barrett is good but needs more work to be the next Champion.
 
I just don't understand the argument that Bryan gets no reaction as a heel. Have you been watching the same Smackdown shows that I've been watching? He gets great heat. I also love the way he's being booked. A winning streak which he's been bragging about where his wins have been by DQ or Countout. Is his mic work the strongest we've seen? No but its certainly not the worst. Personally the vegan role model thing is just a carbon copy of Punks straight edge heel persona. But overall I've been very impressed by Bryan's title reign and heel turn. I went from disinterested in him to actually liking the guy.
 
Here's the thing that fucking idiots like you never seem to realize. A strong claim, or blanket statement in general, warrants a strong explanation.

Any shit head can declare Daniel Bryan as having no charisma and leave any notion of credibility up to the few fucking idiots (h33lturn) that would actually take you seriously.

Daniel Bryan is animated in the ring, if he was allowed to be a louder or more poignant persona during promos then he would be. That role is left to shit heads like Cena who at this point are nothing if they don't waste twenty minutes validating their character in a stupid promo. Matches will have their pre-destined spots, but how intense you perform those spots are up to you.

I have attended 12 programs in my lifetime that had Daniel Bryan on the card and at every one he was getting a strong reaction from the crowd.

What actual experience do you base your claims on?
 
If you think Daniel Bryan's in-ring ability is just okay, you must not be a fan of real wrestling. He could out perform most of the Smackdown and Raw roster. His mic skills are decent, but he's getting better every week. He came from Ring of Honor where they focused on wrestling a lot more then mic skills.
agree with this post 100%!!! Bryan's in-ring ability is not just ok, it's great and to the person who didnt like CM Punk, i dont know how people dont like a 5 star wrestler which Punk is. there's NO doubt in my mind that Punk can put on 5 star matches, he's done so twice, once with Joe, once with Cena and Punk is GREAT on the mic and i see him and Jericho kicking their fued up soon.

Now to Bryan. i admit, Bryan's not a great mic guy, BUT there's no denying he has his moments on the mic. i thought he was good on the mic Tuesday and was good last Friday. now he's not the best mic worker and likely never will be, but he can speak at times and his in-ring skills are great. he's one of the best sellers i seen and has great submission moves and his acting is improving.

HOW is he holding guys back!!! The Miz!!!! you got to be joking! Miz is on Raw, not Smackdown, there are rumors he's going to Smackdown this year, but that's this year, not last year. Miz was supposed to be the guy on Raw, but then hit a slump and is now needing a change. Bryan did NOT hold down Mark Henry. Henry at the time was hurt and thought to miss alot of time, so they took the title off him, that's not holding people back. i dont think Bryan's been the best champion (dont like the chicken heel), but his acting has been great and if Miz gets out of the doghouse then he will be back in the main event again, but Bryan is a deserving champion, his match with Punk was great.
 
I think he's really boring. His ring skills are apparently amazing because he did a few fancy moves in the indies. That's my biggest problem with him, I don't care what he's done in the past I watch the WWE now. You can't ride on the past. In fact I don't see his amazing ring skills ever, he does a few kicks, and a submission. Big deal.
 
Glorified jobbers Daniel Bryan and CM Punk as champions is the reason why the WWE is swirling around the drain of irrelevancy. I'm glad that people are finally realizing it. I mean, people around here love their "indy" style and roots, but seriously, they live in complete denial that they are dragging the whole show down. There's a reason why both of them are going to be at least two matches from the top of the card. at WM And they're champions. Think about it.

Santino gets much better reactions from the crowd than either champion. Santino. Let that sink in for a bit.

Bryan especially is shit. He does absolutely nothing interesting (just because he kicks a million times doesn't mean he's "great" in the ring). He never has, never will. His promos don't make me hate him a heel like he is supposed to be, he makes me change the channel. I'm not alone, because it's been proven that Bryan segments are some of the lowest rated on the show. The belt almost assuredly is going on Seamus at WM, and once that happens, Bryan is going to fade off into irrelevancy.

I can't begin to count how many things are wrong with this nonsensical diatribe. Judging by this, you are clearly one of these spoonfed marks who eat up cheesy and ridiculous gimmick wrestlers like candy. The fact you called Punk and Bryan glorified jobbers is further proof you know as much about pro wrestling as Lindsey Lohan does about self control.

The reason WWE television numbers are down this era is two fold. One, we are in the video game generation. That industry has all but taken the young adult category away from not only wrestling but movies as well. Two, the product today caters to families and more specifically kids. That is a demographic that is not going to stick with the WWE all the time and will drift in and out of viewing it.
 
Daniel Bryan - Here is the best example of WWE not being all that great these days

Yeah, I heard that Punk vs. Cena feud and Rock vs. Cena thing was awful. No. No, I didn't. The WWE has been great for the past two years. Not Attitude Era great, but nonetheless, very good.

I dont know what WWE saw in him that they made him win the MITB and then win the World title and finally letting him main event Wrestlemania

Perhaps they saw his fantastic ability to wrestle and his hard-work and decided to award an up-and-comer with a main event push?

I cant see a thing in him which makes him World champion

Even Stevie Wonder can see why he's a great World Champion.

He rarely gets heat from the fans nor did he get great cheers when he was a face...People have no reaction when he comes out

So you're blind and deaf? When he was a face, he didn't get any pops until a few months ago when he started facing off against Mark Henry for the title. I'll give you that much. As a heel, though? He is the most over heel on the roster. Without a doubt. Everyone hates him. Hell, you hate him, that's why you made this thread. Isn't that proof enough that he's doing his job so well that he's blurred the lines of kayfabe and reality?

and i wont blame them because he's boring to the corre...His mic skills are pathetic

No, just no. Did you watch the Smackdwon before last? Daniel Bryan did the promo of his life and it was perfect. I wish there was a word that meant more than perfect because it was a phenomenal heel promo. Daniel bryan surprised me in doing so, one of his biggest followers.

his in-ring ability are just okay

:lmao:

I'd come up with a witty insult to your intelligence but, you're just not worth it. Yo' Mama. That'll suffice.

He doesnt even look like a champion (which could have been excused if other things about him were cool)

He is an underdog who has gotten too cocky for his boots. He's not supposed to looks as if he were a champion. He's supposed to be like a wrestling Gollum, doing everything he can to save his title.

The Question is why did the wwe make him win mitb and then the title...There were many good contenders like Cody and Wade who could have won...They too are the part of the future and i'm sure they definitely would have done a better job...

1. They wanted to create a special shocking moment.
2. Daniel Bryan is far more experienced than Cody and Wade.
3. At the time, Smackdown desperately needed a new face. He probably would have stayed as a face, if Henry hadn't gotten injured back in TLC, forcing Bryan to cash-in prematurely.

Others like The Miz, Christian and even Mark Henry have been held back to make way for him which doesnt make a lot of sense...

Yeah, Henry and Christian, the currently injured stars that had just come off having the run of his life. I can definitely see where you're coming from. The Miz? Don't even.

If at all(and i doubt a lot) wwe saw talent in him...an overall talent...then wwe should have given him a good run before making him the champion...I personally feel they have hurried him to the title...

They have hurried him to the title, but they needed to due to injuries. It wasn't ideal but god knows, the WWE gave him the proverbial ball and his tiny little vegan feet ran with it and never looked back.

Anyway, the fact of the matter is, Daniel Bryan is headlining Wrestlemania, all thanks to the hard work he's done. WWE put faith in him and he, in turn, is giving them the best he has. I'm sure the American Dragon doesn't crave your acceptance.
 
I think he's really boring. His ring skills are apparently amazing because he did a few fancy moves in the indies. That's my biggest problem with him, I don't care what he's done in the past I watch the WWE now. You can't ride on the past. In fact I don't see his amazing ring skills ever, he does a few kicks, and a submission. Big deal.

Give me the name of the fucking idiot who said to you "Daniel Bryan only has good ring skills because he did a few good moves in the indies" and then slap yourself for believing that person.

You don't care what he's done in the past? No shit. You already belittled his past due to your ass perception of it. Thank you for saying something less clever than saying nothing.

So he has no ring skills because you have the attention span of a fucking gnat, got it.
 
However, the problem is that you're stating personal opinion and representing it as fact. The facts in and of themselves don't seem to rerflect your opinion in the minds of the majority of fans. You don't like Bryan as a performer but the consistent response that Bryan gets on every show suggests that a considerable majority of the WWE audience doesn't share that view point. They obviously enjoy his promos as he draws very good heat and they're also interested in his wrestling matches. In a nutshell, Daniel Bryan has been able to make the majority of fans interested in his matches, his promos & his feuds and that is exactly what a champion, especially a main event champion, is supposed to do. You not liking Bryan doesn't alter the fact that he's very over at this point.

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I dont think he's very over at this point...There is not much hype about his match with sheamus at WM...He might be good in the ring but he doesnt have the charisma of a champ IMO...

To point out crowd reactions is pretty stupid as well. In order for a wrestler to garnish a reaction the WWE has to put them in compelling story lines and write their characters well. Until the heel turn Daniel Bryan was written very stale. Why would the fans pop for him when they did so little with him.
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I'm not just blaming Daniel Bryan...The writing team hasnt done a great job on him as well...But a wrestler also is equally responsible to get his character over...

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The fact that you believe Mark Henry to be interesting is probably where you prove that your judgement is not very sound. If by interesting, you mean monotone, has no personality, and moves like a slowly drying sack of cement, well then I guess you're right. Then my truck is interesting, lets put the belt on it!

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Yes, I believe Mark Henry was interesting. He looked like a guy who was now sirius about his work and more importantly looked like someone whose hard to beat...His clean win over Randy Orton really put him over and did look like a solid heel...

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I lol'd at the "holding Miz back" part. If you took the time to post on these forums, surely you took the time to read that The Miz has been in the doghouse for a few different reasons. The only person holding him back is himself. Opinion is NOT fact, no matter how you spin it.[/QUOTE]

Okay i just used Miz as an example...I'm not a big fan of the Miz...but the fact that he had already received a decent push...so it wouldnt have hurt to put him back in the Main event picture...

But the question still remains Bryan...if all the examples which i gave werent available at that time doesnt mean they had to give the title to bryan...They had guys like cody and wade who were actually ready to become champions...

When i say he's holding back talent doesnt actually mean 'he'...I mean the writing team who gave bryan the title without any build up...

And a persons in-ring ability is just not good enough to put him at the top...He needs to have the charisma of a champ as well as good mic skills...Else John Morrison would have been a 10time champion by now...
 
He's obviously getting heat considering bed wetters are starting threads just to complain about him. One of the things I enjoy about this place is getting to read other people pretend to know what the rest of the fans are thinking and then stating these opinions as facts. I noticed he said Henry, Christian and Miz were held back because of Daniel Bryan's push. How? All of them were champions in 2011. Is that being held back? Hell, I could make a better case for nobody caring about Christian (Outside of the IWC) than you did against Bryan.


I dont think he's very over at this point...There is not much hype about his match with sheamus at WM...He might be good in the ring but he doesnt have the charisma of a champ IMO...

Let's see, the match was just announced, it's one of three main events which will all be over shadowed by the Rock vs Cena, it's been hyped atleast as much as Jericho vs Punk at this point, and oh yeah IT WAS JUST ANNOUNCED! This isn't coming from a Daniel Bryan "Fanboy" as one poster put it. I'm just a big fan of thinking before you type.
 

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