CWC Live Final LD - Yes! Now We Can Talk About Ibushi

It all comes down to one thing dude. A WWE signed wrestler beat a non WWE signed wrestler at a WWE event. Past creds don't mean much (outside a few of the big names) in the WWE

is it any surprise that the 2 finalists are 2 of the wrestlers that signed contracts to stay on after this?

No. It's not a surprise. It's good business and I don't blame them. I would just have Metalik go over Ibushi, to make the win feel that much bigger. Just that. I am actually okay with Ibushi losing as I wouldn't book him to win, in any way. But I also wouldn't be idiot enough to make him lose to someone that might offend him, because, maybe after he does what he wants to do in Japan he can come in to WWE.

But that's always been Ibushi's problem. He doesn't want to commit. New Japan gave him the co-main event at WrestleKingdom against Nakamura, in one of the best matches ever, really. Even KB gave it an A+, followed by a 5 star from Meltzer. But the guy just didn't want to sign so New Japan doesn't push him any further.
 
'kay dude. I'm pretty sure I am one of the few that follow New Japan in here, so I actually know what I am talking about.

But anyway, for those who wanted to see Metalik vs. Ibushi, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERCG3eCVPUI

I watch Japanse wrestling too. But TJ is the right choice he's signed, Kota isn't, in the end the bulk of the competitors are signed to WWE and that's what counts logically at this point.
 
No. It's not a surprise. It's good business and I don't blame them. I would just have Metalik go over Ibushi, to make the win feel that much bigger. Just that. I am actually okay with Ibushi losing as I wouldn't book him to win, in any way. But I also wouldn't be idiot enough to make him lose to someone that might offend him, because, maybe after he does what he wants to do in Japan he can come in to WWE.

But that's always been Ibushi's problem. He doesn't want to commit. New Japan gave him the co-main event at WrestleKingdom against Nakamura, in one of the best matches ever, really. Even KB gave it an A+, followed by a 5 star from Meltzer. But the guy just didn't want to sign so New Japan doesn't push him any further.



See his commitment issues are his downfall
 
I watch Japanse wrestling too. But TJ is the right choice he's signed, Kota isn't, in the end the bulk of the competitors are signed to WWE and that's what counts logically at this point.

Dude. I understand that. I applaud that. I'm actually kinda happy he hasn't signed because that means I'll probably be getting a Kenny Omega vs. Ibushi match for the World Title. Two of the craziest wrestlers. One wrestles 9 year old kids and the other a doll and it's still great! Two of the best DDT wrestlers.
 
Dude. I understand that. I applaud that. I'm actually kinda happy he hasn't signed because that means I'll probably be getting a Kenny Omega vs. Ibushi match for the World Title. Two of the craziest wrestlers. One wrestles 9 year old kids and the other a doll and it's still great! Two of the best DDT wrestlers.

Omega vs Ibushi is sounding good.

Also Regal and Bryan on the mic together :)
 
But that's always been Ibushi's problem. He doesn't want to commit. New Japan gave him the co-main event at WrestleKingdom against Nakamura, in one of the best matches ever, really. Even KB gave it an A+, followed by a 5 star from Meltzer. But the guy just didn't want to sign so New Japan doesn't push him any further.

Well no wonder he isn't going to win this if he doesn't like to commit. I'm sure that the first thing the WWE is going to expect. Too bad really.
 
But I also wouldn't be idiot enough to make him lose to someone that might offend him, because, maybe after he does what he wants to do in Japan he can come in to WWE.
if TJP goes on to win Ibushi will have lost to the best cruiserweight in the world. No shame in that by any means
But that's always been Ibushi's problem. He doesn't want to commit. New Japan gave him the co-main event at WrestleKingdom against Nakamura, in one of the best matches ever, really. Even KB gave it an A+, followed by a 5 star from Meltzer. But the guy just didn't want to sign so New Japan doesn't push him any further.
he seems to be happy being a freelance wrestler to me. That may change when he gets older and wants to sign full time with a single promotion. I'm sure both New Japan and WWE will be salivating to sign him when he finally decides the time is right
 
Well no wonder he isn't going to win this if he doesn't like to commit. I'm sure that the first thing the WWE is going to expect. Too bad really.

The wrestling fan in me just feels sad that we aren't going to get a lot of dream matches with him in WWE. At least we've got Nakamura, who's simply going to tear the house down as soon as he finds John Cena, Seth Rollins and Randy Orton in front of him.

But I've gotta say, I am actually intrigued of what they are going to do with Perkins. He's a good wrestler but he lacks charisma. He's still a soft version of Eddie Edwards.
 
I mostly dislike TJP because he's a mennist douche. Also Ibushi's better. Finals should still be great though. Not going to let the fact that 2 of my favs lost in the final 4 ruin for me one of the best things WWE has ever done.
 
they're giving this 40 minutes? Nice.

Also how is the winner gonna get that giant hunk of metal home?
 
if TJP goes on to win Ibushi will have lost to the best cruiserweight in the world. No shame in that by any means

he seems to be happy being a freelance wrestler to me. That may change when he gets older and wants to sign full time with a single promotion. I'm sure both New Japan and WWE will be salivating to sign him when he finally decides the time is right

Well I hope someone tells him that. He didn't just lose. He tapped out. After TNA there's no way Okada trusts americans again.

You know who's missing here? Ricochet/Prince Puma. If he was in the tournament, damn.
 
I hope they utilise TJ well. Also who else thought HHH was gonna pedigree someone then hand the trophy to the person standing
 
Well I hope someone tells him that. He didn't just lose. He tapped out. After TNA there's no way Okada trusts americans again.
I get that wrestling culture is a lot different in Japan than it is here in the states but I think you're thinking to much about it.

Yes Ibushi is Japanese but this is Tournament for an American promotion being held in Orlando. He's worked in America before so it's not like he doesn't know how American wrestling works.





Holy Fuck!!!!!!!!! They are giving the winner the Cruiserweight Championship
 
There's probably 5 posters that follow New Japan religiously and you ain't one of them. That's FEW.

I'm going to put this very simply:

You need to stop acting like you're the smartest person around here. It's getting really, really old and people got tired of it a long time ago.
 

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