Cryme Tyme is OFFENSIVE to a Black man fro REAL

[caballero613]

Its this simple, if you dont like it dont watch it.. I am hispanic and laughed at the mexicools. I laughed at nadia and whats his name when they were trailer trash. Its freakin entertainment and its very simple like everything else in life, if you dont like it dont watch it or listen to it. If after so many years of Vinnie Mac doing storylines on different ethnicities and races you should know that he likes those storylines and most people do too. People watch WWE for entertainment and thats exactly what it is.

 

[tmangamer]

Umaga, Khali, the Highlanders, the list goes on.

Um... Did you know that both of the Highlanders are Canadian ? So it is not a stereotype since they are Scottish, the WWE just wanted a gimmick going in that direction, I mean you're not gonna have Canadian guys playing a Scottish person who is plain and simple and contemporary.

Umaga ... Well... I guess you should say Jamal... Samoa Joe rip off ? I say NO ! Umaga is pretty bad in the ring for sure, and can't do mic work, but he has a good manager and everyone knows Vince always likes big ones .

Khali... Not going to say a word on him. He's fine as a manager ONLY to intimidate I guess, but ECW wtf ???


So to come back to stereotypes in the WWE. I think that they do not overuse them at all, I mean they just use a few out of so many wrestlers, it's inevitable. Cryme Tyme, Shelton Benjamin : stereotypes. Bobby Lashley, KING Booker (not the old Booker), Farooq at the time : don't tell me they have been using stereotypes for their characters, these are World Champions with talent who were recognized for it, without having an "offensive" character.

Add in a few stereotypes and the money comes in, I mean come on it becomes REALLY entertaining. Isn't that why someone would still watch WWE ? I mean let's face it 1/5 of the matches now are actually interessing to watch only, the entertainment is in the storylines.

A few stereotypes in WWE does NOT mean racism, this is entertainment ! We could say the same about movies, but we don't, because a movie is fun to watch, and there are different characters, some of which include stereotypes. I think the WWE is not offensive on this subject. But there are other things that are (backstage mostly), but I'm not going to start to talk about those.

 

[JoshK1985]

So some people find Cryme Tyme offensive and some of thoes people are African american... Well lets see as a white person watching wrestling over the years let me name the number of gimmicks I have a white person could have found racist and a problem with...

Well first that comes to mind is The Nation OF Domnation... A bunch of african american guys playing militant figures who had it out for the white man, thus them feuding with DX and Austin. Did this make me angry with it's racial undertones toward white people? No... It is entertainment.

Me being from the south I could have said the Jamie Knoble and Nidia redneck gimmick offensive, but I didn't it is entertainment.

LAX... These guys walk around calling people white people crackers, honky, and gringo's.. Attacking white wrestlers and saying that whites in TNA are holding them down, then they try to burn the American flag.. Did I find any of this offensive? No, do I think as a Americans we should have found them trying to burn the American flag offensive? YES, but we don't becasue we know it is entertainment.

Now to wrap this up I think the whole Cryme Tyme things is being overreacted too. What they are doin on RAW is no diffrent then what you see on MTV or BET on Rap Videos... Or what you see on the movie of the week on BET, or hell when USA plays the movie Friday. I mean this all is ENTERTAINMENT! So like somone said if you don't like it don't watch it... Hell write WWE a letter and tell them your disgusted by this. Don't just sit here and bitch and moan on a message board, do something about it.

 

[l0ucifer]

I also find their skits very funny but I think WWE may have crossed a line last night.

WWE Crossed the line a couple of years ago when Vince said to John Cena, "IIght My *****". That was crossing the line, white men in their 50's - 60's should not be allowed to say that, lol. Cryme Tyme is not offensive to me I'm not Black I'm hispanic but i was born and raised in the Bronx in a black neighborhood so I can relate. 50 Cent and G Unit are Waaaaaaay more offensive,to the community, to Hip Hop music and just in general. CT Gimmick is just done to get a laugh i dont think its protraying everyday blackfolks i think its protraying the MTV Hip hop mentality. There are pleanty of ppl out there that actaully act like this thou.. Black, white, spanish, Asian, Indian I've seen it all. What you have to realize is that its fucking WWE... Everything they are gonna do is considered offensive because they just portray Sterotypes to bring in as many viewers as possible lighten up ppl its just TV.

 

[scorpionz_venom]

If somebody else tells me to lighten up, I swear I'm gonna scream! Listen to what I'm saying. We all realize all Black people don't act like this, but I don't like the fact that Black males are being portrayed in this way, even rappers. Obviously there is little knowledge of Talib Kweli, Jay-Z, Mos Def or any other rapper who is not on g unit and not a "gangsta rapper". Maybe I was in error. Maybe that's all people wanna talk about is how they think vince sux, or how cena and batista need to drop titles or carlito needs a push. Look y'all I'm completing a master's program, I'm educated and well versed in how media works. Everything has to blown out of proportion to be entertaining. In reality, a ladder match would last all of 20 seconds! A race to the top. All I'm saying is that Cryme Tyme makes dudes like me look bad. I wear wave caps. I wear clothes baggy (not saggin). In all honesty, I look like they do, and it's a God Damned shame that it's so easy to get lumped in that category based off of looks. Say what you want, you don't know unless you've walked in my shoes. You may know that's not the case, but not everyone knows that. There is already MTV, and BET protraying this image over and over again, then there are the movies. This blog isn't about all that, this is a wrestling blog, so I decided to see what my "peers" thought about this topic. Apparently it should be swept under the rug like everything else. Look whether you want to admit it or not, the shit is offensive, and there are those of you (you know who you are) who rationalize to cover up the fact that you like it. I don't care if you like CT or not, I was just trying to see what people think about a pertinient topic.

 

[Dan1506]

Exactly, if you have a reason to back your point it is your right to be offended by it. And to the people who say things like 'lighten up' why should we, when something like that shouldn’t even happen in the first place!
And no they don't do it to everyone, they do it to allot but not everyone, since America licks Israel’s balls which escalates into the WWE licking the American government’s balls, the WWE would never portray or try to make fun of a Jew (people ATM of time causing the most trouble in the world).

As the general public of what your are, you will most likely think Terrorism is the cause of problems, and your right it is, but it is certainly not what sparked war.

Look at this, FACT: The terrorist bombings on 9/11 cost the American government BILLIONS with this attack America waged war once destroyed Iraq they cleansed the countries oil which was worth TRILLIONS.

Now, you come to think in terms of financially the 9/11 bombings was a good thing for the America government.
Even dumb hicks know the difference from Billions and Trillions.

 

[Jewlz]

Cryme Tyme's funny & all but their skits are too damn long & can get old & annoying quick reminds me of when Eddie & Chavo did their skits, but they're good in the ring i wish they would spend less time on promos & more time in the ring.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Hell, I'm English but I don't p*ss my pants every time I see Regal prance round the ring like a stereotypical "posh gentleman". And I actually know that some non-Englishmen are stupid enough to buy into that bull. I still couldn't care less.

 

[Dan1506]

But its different, the English are probably the most victorious country in the whole world; basically being called British is a very respectable thing.

This IS NOT how I feel and it isn’t the truth, but I don’t want to go through a history session to explain why. It is what other countries leaders think about Britain.

Like i said the power in this moment of time is in the White mans hand and it has always been that way.

 

[chickenwings11]

CRYME TYME-ENTERTAINMENT. NOT REALITY. DON'T LIKE IT? WATCH SOMTHING ELSE! remember KERWIN WHITE? If it weren't for the death of Eddie Guerrero, that would still be chavo's gimmick to this date. And because it was a white stereotype, no one would have complained either. I'm not going to tell you not to be offended. But STOP BITCHING ABOUT IT! If you are really offended, DO SOMTHING ABOUT IT! If you have the time to bitch about it in a forum(which all of us obviously do) Then you have the time to get a pen, some paper, some fucking stamps and an envelope, and put your complaint in WRITING, and mail it off the stamford! TELL VINCE HOW YOU FEEL, NOT THE REST OF US!

 

[jefferson411]

No, please tell the rest of us. Hey chickenwings11, the entire point of a forum is for people to talk about there opinions on things. This is his, let him talk. But, if it does offend you to an extreme degree, do tell Vince. They have a feedback section on the website somewhere.

I do agree with chickenwings on the Kerwin white thing, I have a problem with people being offended cause this has stereotypes about black people, then expecting everyone to have a problem with it when they never said anything about stuff like Kerwin White, Mexicools (wow was that racist), and Tatanka (sp?). If you are going to be offended about one racist angle, be offended about them all. I personally don't have a problem with it, it's entertainment and I have learned that if it really bugs me to turn it off, it will be over in 2 or 3 minutes.

I missed the Cryme Tyme segment, would anyone mind giving me a summary of why it was so offensive, and what all happened.

 

[ErkBono23]

No, please tell the rest of us. Hey chickenwings11, the entire point of a forum is for people to talk about there opinions on things. This is his, let him talk. But, if it does offend you to an extreme degree, do tell Vince. They have a feedback section on the website somewhere.

I do agree with chickenwings on the Kerwin white thing, I have a problem with people being offended cause this has stereotypes about black people, then expecting everyone to have a problem with it when they never said anything about stuff like Kerwin White, Mexicools (wow was that racist), and Tatanka (sp?). If you are going to be offended about one racist angle, be offended about them all. I personally don't have a problem with it, it's entertainment and I have learned that if it really bugs me to turn it off, it will be over in 2 or 3 minutes.

I missed the Cryme Tyme segment, would anyone mind giving me a summary of why it was so offensive, and what all happened.

it wasnt offensive people r jus goin crazy in their heads..cryme tyme was at a retirment home and they were singin to old people..and they were like singin and rapping about how they were gonna steal this white old mans jewerly and this old ladys jewelry and so on...eventually they pretty much got kicked out but took some old lady with them who was white and said some ghetto line and that was it..nothin racist about that to me

 

[BRandonkin]

WWE Crossed the line a couple of years ago when Vince said to John Cena, "IIght My *****". That was crossing the line, white men in their 50's - 60's should not be allowed to say that, lol. Cryme Tyme is not offensive to me I'm not Black I'm hispanic but i was born and raised in the Bronx in a black neighborhood so I can relate. 50 Cent and G Unit are Waaaaaaay more offensive,to the community, to Hip Hop music and just in general. CT Gimmick is just done to get a laugh i dont think its protraying everyday blackfolks i think its protraying the MTV Hip hop mentality. There are pleanty of ppl out there that actaully act like this thou.. Black, white, spanish, Asian, Indian I've seen it all. What you have to realize is that its fucking WWE... Everything they are gonna do is considered offensive because they just portray Sterotypes to bring in as many viewers as possible lighten up ppl its just TV.

Truthfully nobody should say that word. Black White, Hispanic and whatever. I think it is another sign of racism for us to say Black people can say *****, and also call white people Krackers, Honkeys and other stuff and its okay, but as soon as we hear ***** we get upset. It all wrong and I an not mad at WWE at all. And I am black.

 

[debisib]

dude... everyone needs to chill and stop thinkin bout race and shit like that....
thhey arent portraying black guys... they are portraying thugs and thiefs... who are black... anbd with shelton they are counteracting that anyway...
it has nothing to do with being black... its just who these two ppl are as humans... if they were white, white ppl would NOT be offended... instead wed just think about them as regular ppl and decide if we like them or not, they just happen to be black.

 

[jefferson411]

No if they were white black people would still be offended because so many people associate that type of person with black people, and if white people were acting that way they would be even more offended because now its like ''oh no honky is making fun of us." Automatically anyone who acts that way is going to be in some way linked to blacks either they are one or theyre trying to be one or they are making fun of it. Said but true.

 

[xxmonsterpimpxx]

yea i mean seriously why be offended by shelton benjamin, I cant even call him any race at this time. I fell like calling him an alien

 

[Punisher1205]

yea i mean seriously why be offended by shelton benjamin, I cant even call him any race at this time. I fell like calling him an alien

Im sorry, but can i ask what this is supposed to mean?

 

[scorpionz_venom]

Let me step away from wrestling for just a second, because there are some major social issues coming out, and that is a good thing. I want everyone on here to know whole-heartedly that stereotyping and racism is VERY MUCH alive and strong. Because Whites are the majority and usually the offender, there is a tendency to turn and act like it doesn't happen. I'm not calling anyone a racist, it is often because you are not a racist that you cringe at the idea. We may never get over this problem, it is an ugly part of human nature like war and greed-separation. The only way to confront this problem is head-on. WWE and the Cryme Tyme gimmick is only a microcosm of some real-life issues that people deal with day-to-day. Just be aware. Like I said, I have a B.S., almost done with my Master's and over 7 years of management experience and it took me almost 9 months to find a job. Why? Don't hit me with that poor economy stuff because I KNOW that wasn't the only factor. I say all that to say this, we need to think about race. We need to celebrate race, empathize, and try to understand. But saying "don't think about it" and "get over it" just won't pull it. All you people who think I'm just bitching are missing the whole picture and contributing nothing to this blog. Somebody at WWE.com already knows how I feel. Now to get back to wrestling, I DO think Cryme Tyme has a nice finisher. With them, Highlanders, and Cade and Murdoch, there are three teams with team-finishers. Three stereotyping teams, but teams that help the tag division more than we realize.

 

[Xelios]

I gotta be real with you, as of tonight, I'm officially not fellin Cryme Tyme's gimmick. As a Black man I was offended by tonights segment at the retirement home. It was funny at first, but it's obvious by messages posted in this very community that all many people know about Black people is what they see on TV. The angle with Shelton is walking a very thin line. And I DARE someone to tell me what I should and should not be offended by.

***** please

stop frontin and actin all bad n shit ova a wrestling gimmick bro, it is what it iz, know what i'm sayin? end of da day everythang iz everythang no matter what they be showin on tv in da wwe. I actually think it is a good gimmick, why you be all lettin dat shit get you all fired up?.. shame on ur black ass fo real, don't you know any exposure us brotherz get is good no matter what it is... shelton and cryme's shit is on point, ya herrrrd? now stop actin all whack and get to steppin'1!

hOLLA

 

[Eternal Dragon]

Hmmmm, very interesting topic that I knew was bound to be created at one time or another.

I don't dislike Cryme Time or the gimmick, nor am I huge fan of them. They're talented wrestlers, in my opinion, who the WWE need to let wrestle more instead of doing promo after promo. I can see, like others have said that someone could be offended by it. However, at the end of the day the WWE will always be a federation that uses sterotypes in their storylines and gimmick. But, when you look at it- who doesn't use sterotypes now a days?? I don't like how the WWE protray women, but I do understand that it is entertainment, and sometimes you just have to deal with things that you dislike.

Flames Out
Dragon

 

[scorpionz_venom]

***** please

stop frontin and actin all bad n shit ova a wrestling gimmick bro, it is what it iz, know what i'm sayin? end of da day everythang iz everythang no matter what they be showin on tv in da wwe. I actually think it is a good gimmick, why you be all lettin dat shit get you all fired up?.. shame on ur black ass fo real, don't you know any exposure us brotherz get is good no matter what it is... shelton and cryme's shit is on point, ya herrrrd? now stop actin all whack and get to steppin'1!

hOLLA

Wow. You coulda kept that whole comment to yourself, bruh.

 

[jefferson411]

***** please

stop frontin and actin all bad n shit ova a wrestling gimmick bro, it is what it iz, know what i'm sayin? end of da day everythang iz everythang no matter what they be showin on tv in da wwe. I actually think it is a good gimmick, why you be all lettin dat shit get you all fired up?.. shame on ur black ass fo real, don't you know any exposure us brotherz get is good no matter what it is... shelton and cryme's shit is on point, ya herrrrd? now stop actin all whack and get to steppin'1!

hOLLA

Haha you think black people are having trouble getting exposure? I would say, judging by everything you just said, you are doing nothing to advance your race at all. If you actually are black but you sound more like a white guy trying to be funny by being really unfunny.

 

[tek2k]

I am half black, I personally see this as nothing but a big joke. I am not offended by this and think people need to lighten up and just learn to laugh at themselves.

quoted for freakin truth. why can't people just learn to let stuff like this go and just laugh it off? everything on tv is so pc now it's sickening. guess what? the real world isn't what you see on tv. anyways, if people watching wrestling think this is how all blacks are, then they need help.

 

[PauLwaLL]

Ok... For everyone saying this is offensive to black people, we just had about 12 people who are infact black, say it wasnt a big deal.. Funny how every white person is saying its offensive..


Its a wrestling gimmick.. Quit nitpicking like everyone always does, and get over it..

 

[Dan1506]

why should they 'get over with it' if they have been offended?