Could It Be... Goldberg to TNA?

He could come in as crimsons "trainer" and do a couple of matches then be out the door. Dixe/Sting is recruiting to run immortal out of impact. (Sting,Goldberg,Joe,Crimson,styles etc..) There is actually quite allot that could be done, just besides a title run for goldberg.
 
Since when does "fucked his run up" mean made a star? The idea that Goldberg was used better in WWE than he was in WCW is laughable. If I was Goldberg I would have a lot more faith in Hogan/Bischoff etc. protecting my character than I would in HHH etc.

I did just realize that Goldberg and Kurt Angle have never had a match ...


Kevin Nash fucked up goldbergs run.. He was booking then.
 
Jesus it's like a lot of the WWE fangirls don't want Goldberg to go to TNA. Not because he's old, not because he'll squash people, not because he'll hog the spotlight but because it's TNA he's going to, not the WWE. Applies to just about every huge name TNA signed too, by the way. Tell you what, if Goldberg said "Yes, I'm coming back to the WWE" we'd have at least thirty comments from members with "WWE" in their name saying "GOOOOOOOLDBEEEEEERG GOOOOOOOLDBEEEEEEEERG".

Would I like to see Goldberg come to TNA? Absolutely! Against Crimson? Eh, sure, it's good on paper like I suggested but I don't think I'll be happy with the finish. At least not at BFG. If Goldberg and Crimson have a feud it needs to be a long one, not a debut two weeks before the show and then a loss for Golderg OR Crimson.

Goldberg to TNA would be huge if it happens. Do you know how many people I've talked to - current casual fans and ex-wrestling fans - who said that if Goldberg comes back they might have to start watching wrestling again? This is great for TNA because unlike the IWC, a normal wrestling fan hearing about Goldberg being back in some capacity is thinking "Yay! Goldberg is back!", and and IWC person is thinking "He'll overshadow the young guys, he can't draw, he's old". Just ride the fucking wave and hope he comes back ANYWHERE because he's awesome. Fucking Christ ...

I don't even care if he comes in and squashes a bunch of worthless people. Fuck 'em. As long as he doesn't squash the important wrestlers I'm fine with it. Feed 'um Robbie E., Anarquia, Terry and crap-turds like that.

Damn sure he comes back to wrestling and hopefully in TNA. I'd love to see him anywhere but I just don't trust that the WWE would use him right. They'll probably make him smile or something.

On a side note, I don't like the guy very much but what if the feud was actually between Goldberg and Samoa Joe? If Joe steps it up this might be his ticket to glory. Just a playful thought. Wouldn't mind Goldberg driving his fat ass through the canvas the Jackhammer I know that much.
 
Goldberg fighting Angle or Samoa Joe would be great television or a great PPV attraction for TNA. I just don't think Crimson and Goldberg would be a big enough match. Yeah Crimson has a streak but he is still green and only a tenth as over as Goldberg was. It sounds like Goldberg wants one last run with Austin, but I doubt that will happen. This videos all aired in the spring so I think its unlikely he will make his debut by the end of the year.

Anything is possible, but I think if anything we would see him in 2012 instead of 2011. Is it good for TNA? Anything would be at this point. Goldberg is the last big name and free agent TNA could use to their advantage. We all know names like Austin, Rock, Jericho, HBK, and Edge are unlikely, so Goldberg is the best bet.

Goldberg could possibly be the biggest name to come to TNA since Hogan. Will he draw ratings or PPV buys? maybe or maybe not. I think he is more useful for TNA at this point in his career then in WWE. More potential feuds.
 
TNA can't afford what Goldberg thinks he's worth and WWE doesn't want him back after the things he's been saying about them. I think if he does do a match, it will be in Japan.
 
Ok, let's be real here. There are people talking about this like Goldberg is going to do anything more than a one-off deal anywhere. He's not going to work for a year, he's probably not going to want to do much TV either. Maybe a couple of appearances and a PPV match. That's all anyone will get out of Bill Goldberg.

Now let's apply ourselves and look at our options. If we are Bill Goldberg and we want to work one match for our son to see us wrestle (that's the reason he's talked about for wanting to have one more match), am I going to do that in front of 20,000 at a WWE PPV (or more if he waits til Wrestlemania to work a match) or am I going to work the Impact Zone in front of 1000 losers. Yes, the Impact Zone Crucial Crew are losers, duh.

Is this really a question? You will get more money and show your son what it's like to work in front of thousands of fans in one place, while in the other place you'll get smarky morons chanting "this is awesome" at the first headlock. I'm not anti-TNA, but what would Goldberg's motivation be to go to TNA for one match? It really makes no sense and I think that if you ever see Goldberg again, it's going to be in the WWE. There are some intriguing matchups in TNA, but the platform just isn't right for one match, which again is all you are getting.
 
Because, he obviously lives up to your respectability right? That's what he works his ass off for...YOUR opinion. :rolleyes:

What, am I not suppose to relay what my opinion is here? I know damn well he doesn't care what I think, I'm just putting my thoughts out there. You know, the same thing you do everyday?

Minor Leagues? Do you want me to embarrass you?

That'd be a first. It's not going to happen here either because TNA is the minor leagues. Not even a slight toward them, it's just math.

Performing in front of 10,000 people> performing in front of 1,000 people.

Lolz. You do realize he is good friends with all of them? Russo being excluded.

So being friends with someone is enough of a reason to jeopardize your future? I have a great friend who is a drug addict, but I wouldn't let him babysit my kids.

Because, It's a different company and it was a fucking decade ago?

Yet they still run the same fucking angles they did in WCW.

I'm pretty sure he would have something to do with Crimson and putting him over if he did join TNA. That's extremely different brah.

I keep hearing this, but I just don't see what everyone else does in Crimson. He's certainly not someone I;d put over Goldberg this early on in his career.

WWE does too. Please, stop before you get embarrassed.

WWE does run a similar booking style, without the profanity and shit, true. But lets compare here since you're so intent on doing that. WWE has remained the undisputed king of it's industry for over a decade, while the other company went out of business. The guys who ran the company that went out of business now run the only competition :)lmao:) to the WWE. See how one is different than the other? Stop saying you're going to embarrass me, we both know you're not smart enough to do it.

Did you ever stop and use that close minded washed brain of yours to think if WWE even wanted him? Not everyone in WWE sits back and wants to hire EVERY former superstar.

Again, I'm just saying what I want to see. If WWE doesn't want him, then so be it. I don't need to see him. But I feel that him being in TNA would be an incredible downgrade for a person of his stature. Much like I think it is for Hogan, Sting, and Angle.

We done? You have to be tired of this by now.
 
What, am I not suppose to relay what my opinion is here? I know damn well he doesn't care what I think, I'm just putting my thoughts out there. You know, the same thing you do everyday?

Um No. Your losing respect for a guy because he wants to be employed is not an opinion.
That'd be a first. It's not going to happen here either because TNA is the minor leagues. Not even a slight toward them, it's just math.

Performing in front of 10,000 people> performing in front of 1,000 people.
WWE is #1 and TNA is #2. Being minor leagues is ROH, Dragon Gate, FWA, PWG. Don't be an idiot and tell me, TNA is a minor league company.

Preforming in front of 2 million people on TELEVISION.

So being friends with someone is enough of a reason to jeopardize your future? I have a great friend who is a drug addict, but I wouldn't let him babysit my kids.
Of course. You would let John Cena babysit your kids.

What future? Goldberg is retired and living life. If he came back, It's for what he wants to do. Why do you care?

Yet they still run the same fucking angles they did in WCW.
Like Nexus, Legacy, The Core?

I keep hearing this, but I just don't see what everyone else does in Crimson. He's certainly not someone I;d put over Goldberg this early on in his career.
Of course, YOU don't. If he was in WWE, he would be the next big thing.

So, TNA shouldn't build a superstar? Cool story bro.

WWE does run a similar booking style, without the profanity and shit, true. But lets compare here since you're so intent on doing that. WWE has remained the undisputed king of it's industry for over a decade, while the other company went out of business. The guys who ran the company that went out of business now run the only competition () to the WWE. See how one is different than the other? Stop saying you're going to embarrass me, we both know you're not smart enough to do it.
The other company went out of business because it was the Network introduced a new executive that did not want wrestling and rebranded the product to TNT and TBS. Which now runs sports and not wrestling content. Ever wondered why WWE never landed a TV deal with them? They do not want wrestling.

It had nothing to with what Bischoff or what Hogan did. If anything, they made the product stale and screwed but that does not say WCW would exist today. WCW died on the hands of TNT and Turner Network.

Stop trying to act like your smart because you are the biggest joke on the forum. Go back to the WWE section, pal.

Again, I'm just saying what I want to see. If WWE doesn't want him, then so be it. I don't need to see him. But I feel that him being in TNA would be an incredible downgrade for a person of his stature. Much like I think it is for Hogan, Sting, and Angle.
Downgrade? They are being seen on TV in 137 fucking countries worldwide. All over the USA.

How is that a downgrade? Going to ROH is a downgrade. Going to Dragon Gate is a downgrade.

Go away. Your an embarrassment to people who like ALL wrestling.
 
Why would goldberg go to tna? I really don't see any reason him going there and having matches in impact zone? Rather pointless. At least in wwe he could have one or more matches in front of >10000 people. The only incentive tna could have are no constant traveling and light schedule.
 
Um No. Your losing respect for a guy because he wants to be employed is not an opinion.

The fuck are you talking about? Of course it is, respect is nothing but a matter of opinion. Idiot.

WWE is #1 and TNA is #2. Being minor leagues is ROH, Dragon Gate, FWA, PWG. Don't be an idiot and tell me, TNA is a minor league company.

Preforming in front of 2 million people on TELEVISION.

Le sigh. I't still Minor Leagues. There are shittier promotions below, but the only thing TNA has on them is a TV deal.

Of course. You would let John Cena babysit your kids.

The fuck does that even mean?

What future? Goldberg is retired and living life. If he came back, It's for what he wants to do. Why do you care?

I don't want to see one of my favorite guys of all time working in a piss poor company. What is so fucking hard for you to get about this you munt?

Like Nexus, Legacy, The Core?

3 factions that didn't even come close to putting a company out of business.

Of course, YOU don't. If he was in WWE, he would be the next big thing.

I like Charisma and storytelling, both qualities this guy hasn't mastered yet. His employer means fuck all to me.

So, TNA shouldn't build a superstar? Cool story bro
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Putting him over Goldberg this early seems like a high risk low reward kind of move. If he flops, Goldberg looks like a joke.

The other company went out of business because it was the Network introduced a new executive that did not want wrestling and rebranded the product to TNT and TBS. Which now runs sports and not wrestling content. Ever wondered why WWE never landed a TV deal with them? They do not want wrestling.

It had nothing to with what Bischoff or what Hogan did. If anything, they made the product stale and screwed but that does not say WCW would exist today. WCW died on the hands of TNT and Turner Network.

:lmao:

That is the biggest pile of dogshit I've ever seen. Seriously. Do you think Fox wants to have a show like Family Guy, a show that bashes Republic/Conservative viewpoints on a weekly basis, on the network they own? Of course they wouldn't, but it gets a shit ton of ratings and makes them a lot of money.

Apply that to the WCW situation. If WCW had still been making money, it wouldn't have gotten the boot. Plain and fucking simple. How did it lose it's money? The ratings tanked because the product fucking blew ass. If they still had great ratings, they could still make enough money from sponsorships to pay off all of those outrageous contracts Bischoff handed out.

Stop trying to act like your smart because you are the biggest joke on the forum. Go back to the WWE section, pal.

Keep digging your hole dude. I'm enjoying making you look like a fool.

Downgrade? They are being seen on TV in 137 fucking countries worldwide. All over the USA.

How is that a downgrade? Going to ROH is a downgrade. Going to Dragon Gate is a downgrade.

Going to work in a shitty sound stage in Florida is a huge downgrade from working for a massive global corporation. It's the reason why guys like Dolph Ziggler are way more known than guys like AJ Styles.

Go away. Your an embarrassment to people who like ALL wrestling.

Who the fuck are you talking to? I comment on things I have an opinion on and yes, I'm definitely biased toward WWE. I guess it has something to do with me liking things that don't suck. :shrug: But I most certainly do not just bash TNA blindly. I have perfectly logical reasons for the shit I say about them, good or bad.

Furthermore, I criticize WWE just as often, just not for the ridiculous shit you people seem to. I hate Alberto Del Rio, Michael Cole ruins matches/segments with his stupid fucking commentary, and NXT has to be the lowest form of shit I've ever sat through.

You never have your own opinion, you're a stupid version of Zeven_Zion, only he is actually funny and worth talking to.
 
Honestly? I'd be down. I give TNA a ton of shit for rehashing shit from the 90s, but Goldberg is one of the few guys that people would actually probably want to see again since his WWE run was such a disaster. I've always been a bit of a Goldberg fan, thought he was underrated as a worker, but he usually needs someone better to help carry the load with him. I'd love to see Goldberg show up in TNA and go on a total tear, and shit, you could even have it all lead up to a Streak vs. Streak match between Goldberg and Crimson at one of the PPVs, that would probably put Crimson over huge (even if he is nowhere near ready for that kind of push). I'd really only want it to be a short term thing though...like 6 months to a year, nothing more. I'd hate to see him come in and then just dominate the main event for the next few years, his time for that kind of role is long gone.

For once I'd actually be interested in seeing an old guy from the 90s show up in TNA. I hope they do it.
 
I would love to see it happen, but I can't see the one-off Goldberg return that he has mentioned (now that his son is old enough to appreciate him wrestling) happening in TNA, the stage just doesnt seem big enough to satisfy the Goldberg ego.

If he returns, he will want to win and as people are talking about Crimson getting pushed as a Goldberg clone, it would only make sense for him to come up against the real deal. Crimson cannot lose that match, as it wouldnt make sense for the young up-and-coming guy to lose to a veteran who hasnt had a match in years. For that reason I cannot see Goldberg wanting to be involved in that.

The WWE would surely be interested in a one-off Goldberg return surely. He still has some name value, the fans remember his glory days and I would LOVE to see him back somewhere, I am a big Goldberg fan. He was a monster in his prime, absolute powerhouse!
 
Can't say I would have a problem with this. I was a HUGE Goldberg fan as a kid, and I would love to see him have one more run.

Crimson VS Goldberg would be the idea match up, because a streak vs streak feud should draw some interest. TNA is obliviously high on Crimson, and a victory over Goldberg at a pay per view could do wonders for him. Personally, I don't see anything special in Crimson, and I don't think he's ready for a big time rub just yet. And there's a good chance Goldberg won't lay down for Crimson. Yeah, a win over Goldberg could do wonders for Crimson, but would Goldberg loss to a fresh face? It's something you have to think about. But Goldberg will have some sort of interaction with Crimson, if he arrives in TNA, you can be sure of that.

Also, if Bill returns for a wrestling role, he'll probably demolish all of his opponents. A lot of people would probably complain about it, but Goldberg was a monster during his WCW days. He was a phenomenon, and the nostalgia wouldn't feel right, if he was booked another way.
 
If Goldberg goes to Tna? He's practically going to take a dump on his career.

As far as can be seen, he would do it for three reasons:

-Money
-Money

(and possibly)
-Money


That TNA might hand him gobs of cash they can't really spare is certainly believable; I'm sure guys like Hogan, Bischoff and RVD aren't working for free.

The point, though, is that it may be too late for Goldberg to have the magical drawing effect he and TNA think he has. It's been ten years since achieved his great fame working for WCW.....that's almost a generation away from when he was relevant, and even then, fans didn't get as excited by Goldberg's presence as the industry believed it would. I don't know if as many people will get revved up about this as many seem to presume. Goldberg has shown his disdain for the major wrestling companies and displayed no desire to get in the ring.....until now. If it's not for money, what could it be for?

If this happens, it could be another financial and public relations disaster for a company that's known for them.
 
Le sigh. I't still Minor Leagues. There are shittier promotions below, but the only thing TNA has on them is a TV deal.

Lol Really? TNA has BETTER roster. TNA has MORE exposure through out international markets, TNA has more of a weekly fanbase and they pay money.

Minor leagues, my ass. Your the biggest mark.



I don't want to see one of my favorite guys of all time working in a piss poor company. What is so fucking hard for you to get about this you munt?
Ooooh Insults. It's gonna make your point go across right? :lmao:

3 factions that didn't even come close to putting a company out of business.
It does not matter. Those THREE fractions were taken from the WCW idea. Shut up and stop getting around that.

I like Charisma and storytelling, both qualities this guy hasn't mastered yet. His employer means fuck all to me.
I'm sorry but since when Lensnar was charismatic. I don't care if you like his employer or not. Why the fuck do you even post here then?

Putting him over Goldberg this early seems like a high risk low reward kind of move. If he flops, Goldberg looks like a joke.
Flops how? The only way he flops is if he is poorly booked. That has not happened. He's being booked more like Samoa Joe in 2005 than Goldberg.

Flopping is making Shmeaus a TWO time WWE champion then sending him to the midcard to feud with Mark Henry. Flopping = Booking.
Apply that to the WCW situation. If WCW had still been making money, it wouldn't have gotten the boot. Plain and fucking simple. How did it lose it's money? The ratings tanked because the product fucking blew ass. If they still had great ratings, they could still make enough money from sponsorships to pay off all of those outrageous contracts Bischoff handed out.
:lmao:

Ratings = Money? Oh really? You know nothing about how business works.


Keep digging your hole dude. I'm enjoying making you look like a fool.
The only fool here is you.
Going to work in a shitty sound stage in Florida is a huge downgrade from working for a massive global corporation. It's the reason why guys like Dolph Ziggler are way more known than guys like AJ Styles.

Ziggler more known than AJ Styles. :lmao:

Who the fuck are you talking to? I comment on things I have an opinion on and yes, I'm definitely biased toward WWE. I guess it has something to do with me liking things that don't suck. :shrug: But I most certainly do not just bash TNA blindly. I have perfectly logical reasons for the shit I say about them, good or bad.
You never have shown any.
Furthermore, I criticize WWE just as often, just not for the ridiculous shit you people seem to. I hate Alberto Del Rio, Michael Cole ruins matches/segments with his stupid fucking commentary, and NXT has to be the lowest form of shit I've ever sat through.
Cool story bro.
You never have your own opinion, you're a stupid version of Zeven_Zion, only he is actually funny and worth talking to.
Insults. Cute.

I have my own opinion. Get yourself one. Stay in the WWE section where you make yourself less of a joke.
 
Crimson just told Goldberg on Twitter that when he was getting stretched by Y2J he was over seas fighting for the country. Goldberg replied saying " who are you". Interesting.
 
No, that's a stupid idea. What would the long term benefit be of Goldberg in TNA? I doubt Goldberg would be interested, at all, in a long term contract with TNA.. and they certainly are unlikely to be able to afford the money he'd be asking for. And to bring Goldberg in just for a short term feud is pointless. There's no way Goldberg would come in to put over Crimson; he's not that kind of guy, nor is he someone who'd ever put himself out for the benefit of the "business".

TNA is known for stupid decisions and illogical moves, but to bring Goldberg in for a short term feud and have him go over someone like Crimson would have to be the stupidest thing they could ever do. They would get nothing out of it. They're trying to build the future of their company, and Goldberg is not someone you'd build the future of a company NOW with.
 
No, that's a stupid idea. What would the long term benefit be of Goldberg in TNA? I doubt Goldberg would be interested, at all, in a long term contract with TNA.. and they certainly are unlikely to be able to afford the money he'd be asking for. And to bring Goldberg in just for a short term feud is pointless. There's no way Goldberg would come in to put over Crimson; he's not that kind of guy, nor is he someone who'd ever put himself out for the benefit of the "business".

TNA is known for stupid decisions and illogical moves, but to bring Goldberg in for a short term feud and have him go over someone like Crimson would have to be the stupidest thing they could ever do. They would get nothing out of it. They're trying to build the future of their company, and Goldberg is not someone you'd build the future of a company NOW with.
So I'm guessing Goldberg is your uncle or something like that? Because you speak as if you know the guy as if he was your uncle, or even father. Goldberg won't do this, Goldberg won't do that. Shut up, smarky, you don't know squat.

Let's be logical here, alright? Goldberg's never been a guy who wanted to be a professional wrestler since he was a child. He was a football player who then became a pro wrestler and had all the right tools - a look, intensity, decent athleticism and WCW who backed him up.

Goldberg never struck me as a person who gives a lot of damn whether he wins or loses. He went over a lot of people in WCW and the WWE not because of his "ego", not because he wanted "the spotlight", but because that's what his character is. That's what Cena is, that's what Hogan was, that's what Goldberg was. They're all larger than life, superhero-like individuals and Superheros prevail 99% of the time.

But it's not the 90's anymore. Not even the early 2000's. It's 2011, Goldberg is 44, he hasn't wrestled for about seven years [which by itself shows you how much he gives a fuck about wrestling, winning, losing and his character] he's got a business going on and he's making his money. You don't think even or a second he's doing this as a short term thing to come in, help out with whatever he can, put some young guy over and scram?

Think about it, use your damn brain. He hasn't wrestled for almost a decade and YOU imply that he wants to come in TNA in order to go over someone like Crimson who is utterly unknown to the world and cater to his own ego? Am I the only one who finds that to be completely idiotic? If Goldberg wanted to restart his wrestling character, you don't think he would've called up McMahon? Come on, son, McMahon would sell his father's bones if he could make a buck.

Everything points to him coming to TNA and potentially feuding with Crimson. My guess is that he's doing a favor for Easy E for old time's sake, he'll make some money out of it, have some fun wrestling again, put over that new kid and GTFO. That's how I think it could go down.

If I personally had to book it, I would have Goldberg go on a rampage, squash the minor wrestlers and ultimately win the World Title in maybe March 2012 where Crimson will contest for it and eventually take it from Goldberg during the summer so Goldberg is given a nice long run with it so it means something when Crimson wins it. Less is more.

Think of the benefits. Goldberg spent some time doing MMA commentary and he's known among that crowd. Those are the same people who moved on from wrestling to MMA. If they hear Goldberg's back (a guy they respect) you don't think they'll check it out and see what happens? Those people stopped watching because the WWE stopped being edgy and hard-hitting. Well, that's what TNA is to a large extent. It's the closest thing to that product. The same product these people like. Not saying it'll make TNA pull 2.0's, but the potential for new viewers is always there.

And not only the MMA guys, what about the current wrestling fans who don't watch TNA? Don't tell me "Well if Hogan didn't do it why would Goldberg?". It's really simple. Hogan doesn't wrestle and he can't. Goldberg on the other hand can probably still go. The guy is an attention magnet. Passing this up would be the dumbest thing TNA has ever done.

"Bat Goldberk is 44 he'zz old and washed upzz!!1!!"

Talk to the SPEAR!
 
So I'm guessing Goldberg is your uncle or something like that? Because you speak as if you know the guy as if he was your uncle, or even father. Goldberg won't do this, Goldberg won't do that. Shut up, smarky, you don't know squat.

Let's be logical here, alright? Goldberg's never been a guy who wanted to be a professional wrestler since he was a child. He was a football player who then became a pro wrestler and had all the right tools - a look, intensity, decent athleticism and WCW who backed him up.

Goldberg never struck me as a person who gives a lot of damn whether he wins or loses. He went over a lot of people in WCW and the WWE not because of his "ego", not because he wanted "the spotlight", but because that's what his character is. That's what Cena is, that's what Hogan was, that's what Goldberg was. They're all larger than life, superhero-like individuals and Superheros prevail 99% of the time.

But it's not the 90's anymore. Not even the early 2000's. It's 2011, Goldberg is 44, he hasn't wrestled for about seven years [which by itself shows you how much he gives a fuck about wrestling, winning, losing and his character] he's got a business going on and he's making his money. You don't think even or a second he's doing this as a short term thing to come in, help out with whatever he can, put some young guy over and scram?

Think about it, use your damn brain. He hasn't wrestled for almost a decade and YOU imply that he wants to come in TNA in order to go over someone like Crimson who is utterly unknown to the world and cater to his own ego? Am I the only one who finds that to be completely idiotic? If Goldberg wanted to restart his wrestling character, you don't think he would've called up McMahon? Come on, son, McMahon would sell his father's bones if he could make a buck.

Everything points to him coming to TNA and potentially feuding with Crimson. My guess is that he's doing a favor for Easy E for old time's sake, he'll make some money out of it, have some fun wrestling again, put over that new kid and GTFO. That's how I think it could go down.

If I personally had to book it, I would have Goldberg go on a rampage, squash the minor wrestlers and ultimately win the World Title in maybe March 2012 where Crimson will contest for it and eventually take it from Goldberg during the summer so Goldberg is given a nice long run with it so it means something when Crimson wins it. Less is more.

Think of the benefits. Goldberg spent some time doing MMA commentary and he's known among that crowd. Those are the same people who moved on from wrestling to MMA. If they hear Goldberg's back (a guy they respect) you don't think they'll check it out and see what happens? Those people stopped watching because the WWE stopped being edgy and hard-hitting. Well, that's what TNA is to a large extent. It's the closest thing to that product. The same product these people like. Not saying it'll make TNA pull 2.0's, but the potential for new viewers is always there.

And not only the MMA guys, what about the current wrestling fans who don't watch TNA? Don't tell me "Well if Hogan didn't do it why would Goldberg?". It's really simple. Hogan doesn't wrestle and he can't. Goldberg on the other hand can probably still go. The guy is an attention magnet. Passing this up would be the dumbest thing TNA has ever done.

"Bat Goldberk is 44 he'zz old and washed upzz!!1!!"

Talk to the SPEAR!

This is kind of what I referred to in my post. What is Goldberg's incentive for coming back full time? He's wrestled all of 5 years in his entire life and he's going to come back after 7 years of being gone to do a full run? That's where I think the delusions are setting in.

It seems like the guy is DONE with wrestling and has been for a long time. That said, he wants to do ONE match so that his son can see what a big star he was and how cool his entrance was and such. If that's true, and it seems to be that way as interviews before these two clips thrown together suggested that he wants to do that for his kid. He negotiated with WWE last year about merchandising and the like but nothing happened as far as I can remember, but really.

Again, let's put ourselves in Bill Goldberg's shoes. If you are coming back for ONE match, not for months and months because I'd bet that he has no interest in working more than that, why would you come to TNA to have one match? If you want to show your son how awesome you were, and the pageantry of wrestling, go to WWE and perform in front of the big crowd where 20,000 (more if it's Wrestlemania) will chant your name. Even if you do Bound for Glory as your "one off", it's still a crowd of less than 10,000 (predicted as the place holds about 10K and who knows if it will sell out) and the experience won't be the same. This is not a knock on TNA at all, but just think about it if you are Goldberg. The choice should be pretty obvious, really.

I hope no one takes this as a knock to TNA, I just mean to show that you have to think about this from Goldberg's perspective. These fantasy booking scenarios are great, but the likelihood of Goldberg working full-time is more miniscule that Zevon's penis (sorry, had to do it buddy!) I don't see it happening and if he just wants to work one match, the choice should be fairly obvious.
 
This is kind of what I referred to in my post. What is Goldberg's incentive for coming back full time? He's wrestled all of 5 years in his entire life and he's going to come back after 7 years of being gone to do a full run? That's where I think the delusions are setting in.

It seems like the guy is DONE with wrestling and has been for a long time. That said, he wants to do ONE match so that his son can see what a big star he was and how cool his entrance was and such. If that's true, and it seems to be that way as interviews before these two clips thrown together suggested that he wants to do that for his kid. He negotiated with WWE last year about merchandising and the like but nothing happened as far as I can remember, but really.

Again, let's put ourselves in Bill Goldberg's shoes. If you are coming back for ONE match, not for months and months because I'd bet that he has no interest in working more than that, why would you come to TNA to have one match? If you want to show your son how awesome you were, and the pageantry of wrestling, go to WWE and perform in front of the big crowd where 20,000 (more if it's Wrestlemania) will chant your name. Even if you do Bound for Glory as your "one off", it's still a crowd of less than 10,000 (predicted as the place holds about 10K and who knows if it will sell out) and the experience won't be the same. This is not a knock on TNA at all, but just think about it if you are Goldberg. The choice should be pretty obvious, really.

I hope no one takes this as a knock to TNA, I just mean to show that you have to think about this from Goldberg's perspective. These fantasy booking scenarios are great, but the likelihood of Goldberg working full-time is more miniscule that Zevon's penis (sorry, had to do it buddy!) I don't see it happening and if he just wants to work one match, the choice should be fairly obvious.
You keep shoving this "Goldberg wants to show his son blahbitty blah blah" stuff in our faces like you shove winkies down your throat. (Bam!)

I understand where you're coming from. Time and time again Goldberg has said that he did it for the fans, he came back for the kids, yada yada. He quit/left/didn't resign/wasn't resigned because he didn't agree with the direction of the product, felt it wasn't for kids and a lot of his fans were kids (bullshit but whatever). Hey, if you wanna make kids smile you go to the WWE. It's geared toward children and there's no edgy stuff anymore.

Here's he problem, however. You like the kids, you think you're their superhero, you think you can make them smile. Fine. How many kids these days know who Goldberg is? Not too many. Goldberg's fanbase that really cares for him consists of adults because they/we are the only ones who actually know who he is, where he came from and all the hoopla. So if he goes to the WWE under the delusional hope of putting smiles on people's faces he's in for a surprise. He wasn't a part of the business long enough to become such a superhero-like persona like Hogan, and he was away from it for big chunks of time so I don't know how that will work.

The kids during his WCW and WWE run are now in their early 20's. They ain't no kids anymore. The real kids from 5 to say 16 were born in 1995 at the earliest and probably didn't watch wrestling until 2002-2004 just when Cena was running around and Goldberg had a short stint with the WWE. Nothing huge or long enough to make turn kids into die hard fans. They have Rock, Austin, 'Taker, Cena for that.

As far as wanting his family to see him wrestle - fine, do that. But he never mentioned anything about how big the crowd is, how large the event was or anything like that. The guy simply wants to wrestle. Now if I were Goldberg and had to choose between TNA and WWE, between McMahon and Dixie/Bischoff/Hogan, between a crap load of money and a decent amount of money, between an enormous stage and crowds and not so enourmous stage and crowds I would damn sure go to McMahon and work something out. But the video of him saying he'll go back to wrestling before 2011 took place in March. If you want a big stage, if you want big money, if you want a huge return - you do it before WrestleMania. He was nowhere near it. Not before, not during, not after.

It's August now, there's time left before 2011 and we've already seen him in a chopper with Bischoff, he's starting shit with Crimson on Twitter and what can we gather from that? Goldberg wanted to do one last match for the 'E, they rejected him and TNA is his only choice. There's still a chance of him working SurvivorSeries as it is pretty much the last big PPV for the WWE in 2011, but then again - why is everything pointing to him showing up in TNA?
 
So I'm guessing Goldberg is your uncle or something like that? Because you speak as if you know the guy as if he was your uncle, or even father. Goldberg won't do this, Goldberg won't do that. Shut up, smarky, you don't know squat.

Let's be logical here, alright? Goldberg's never been a guy who wanted to be a professional wrestler since he was a child. He was a football player who then became a pro wrestler and had all the right tools - a look, intensity, decent athleticism and WCW who backed him up.

Goldberg never struck me as a person who gives a lot of damn whether he wins or loses. He went over a lot of people in WCW and the WWE not because of his "ego", not because he wanted "the spotlight", but because that's what his character is. That's what Cena is, that's what Hogan was, that's what Goldberg was. They're all larger than life, superhero-like individuals and Superheros prevail 99% of the time.

But it's not the 90's anymore. Not even the early 2000's. It's 2011, Goldberg is 44, he hasn't wrestled for about seven years [which by itself shows you how much he gives a fuck about wrestling, winning, losing and his character] he's got a business going on and he's making his money. You don't think even or a second he's doing this as a short term thing to come in, help out with whatever he can, put some young guy over and scram?

Think about it, use your damn brain. He hasn't wrestled for almost a decade and YOU imply that he wants to come in TNA in order to go over someone like Crimson who is utterly unknown to the world and cater to his own ego? Am I the only one who finds that to be completely idiotic? If Goldberg wanted to restart his wrestling character, you don't think he would've called up McMahon? Come on, son, McMahon would sell his father's bones if he could make a buck.

Everything points to him coming to TNA and potentially feuding with Crimson. My guess is that he's doing a favor for Easy E for old time's sake, he'll make some money out of it, have some fun wrestling again, put over that new kid and GTFO. That's how I think it could go down.

If I personally had to book it, I would have Goldberg go on a rampage, squash the minor wrestlers and ultimately win the World Title in maybe March 2012 where Crimson will contest for it and eventually take it from Goldberg during the summer so Goldberg is given a nice long run with it so it means something when Crimson wins it. Less is more.

Think of the benefits. Goldberg spent some time doing MMA commentary and he's known among that crowd. Those are the same people who moved on from wrestling to MMA. If they hear Goldberg's back (a guy they respect) you don't think they'll check it out and see what happens? Those people stopped watching because the WWE stopped being edgy and hard-hitting. Well, that's what TNA is to a large extent. It's the closest thing to that product. The same product these people like. Not saying it'll make TNA pull 2.0's, but the potential for new viewers is always there.

And not only the MMA guys, what about the current wrestling fans who don't watch TNA? Don't tell me "Well if Hogan didn't do it why would Goldberg?". It's really simple. Hogan doesn't wrestle and he can't. Goldberg on the other hand can probably still go. The guy is an attention magnet. Passing this up would be the dumbest thing TNA has ever done.

"Bat Goldberk is 44 he'zz old and washed upzz!!1!!"

Talk to the SPEAR!


Don't get mad at me because you want to see Goldberg come back and its never going to happen.

Yes, let’s be logical here, because logic seems to have slipped its way out of your head. As you state, Goldberg has never been a pro wrestler at heart. He’s never had the passion for wrestling, it was never his dream growing up, so tell me why the hell he would want to come back to wrestling for a short term feud, with ANYONE in TNA of all places, to put someone over. Please, I’m waiting.

What has EVER given you the impression he’s ever - let alone now after being gone from wrestling for AGES and having no previous interest in returning before - cared about the future of the business or where it goes now that he’s gone from it. If he’s never had any interest or concern about building the future of the business before, what changed? Why the hell would he give a shit about coming back to help put over someone for the future of TNA now?

So, no, YOU need to use your damn brain and have some common sense.

The fact you think Goldberg would return to join TNA is silly, but the fact you think Goldberg would return JUST to feud and put over Crimson of all f’cking people, takes that silliness to a whole new level. Not to mention you’re out of your mind with your craziness about fans coming BACK from MMA to TNA (of all places) because of Goldberg. Why in the hell would they go from watching a real SPORT to a fake, pre determined wrestling company that’s not even the big leagues of wrestling? Not a chance.

And Goldberg could NEVER wrestle, so that again shows how much you know.

Let’s have TNA throw all of their young, good talent into squash matches to be fed to Goldberg so he can come into our company, dominate, then win the World title… only to lose it to Crimson, whose generic and has no personality or charisma. Great f’cking idea! You should book for TNA! With your business sense TNA would’ve been done five years ago.
 
Don't get mad at me because you want to see Goldberg come back and its never going to happen.

Yes, let’s be logical here, because logic seems to have slipped its way out of your head. As you state, Goldberg has never been a pro wrestler at heart. He’s never had the passion for wrestling, it was never his dream growing up, so tell me why the hell he would want to come back to wrestling for a short term feud, with ANYONE in TNA of all places, to put someone over. Please, I’m waiting.

What has EVER given you the impression he’s ever - let alone now after being gone from wrestling for AGES and having no previous interest in returning before - cared about the future of the business or where it goes now that he’s gone from it. If he’s never had any interest or concern about building the future of the business before, what changed? Why the hell would he give a shit about coming back to help put over someone for the future of TNA now?

So, no, YOU need to use your damn brain and have some common sense.

The fact you think Goldberg would return to join TNA is silly, but the fact you think Goldberg would return JUST to feud and put over Crimson of all f’cking people, takes that silliness to a whole new level. Not to mention you’re out of your mind with your craziness about fans coming BACK from MMA to TNA (of all places) because of Goldberg. Why in the hell would they go from watching a real SPORT to a fake, pre determined wrestling company that’s not even the big leagues of wrestling? Not a chance.

And Goldberg could NEVER wrestle, so that again shows how much you know.

Let’s have TNA throw all of their young, good talent into squash matches to be fed to Goldberg so he can come into our company, dominate, then win the World title… only to lose it to Crimson, whose generic and has no personality or charisma. Great f’cking idea! You should book for TNA! With your business sense TNA would’ve been done five years ago.
First of all, "fuck" isn't censored.

Second of all I never said anything about feeding young, good talent to Goldberg. I was talking about the suckers. Robbie E., Anarquia, Rob Terry, the list goes on. Losing to Goldberg of all people is not going to magically end your career. HBK's been losing left and right ever since he came back and he was just fine. This isn't a real sport.

Why would Goldberg want to come back? Read JJYanks' post. Research a little bit. Why would he want to put someone over? Someone like Crimson? Simple - Goldberg is not a prick like some other wrestlers I could mention who like to play the game a lot. He's a nice guy who I believe wouldn't mind putting a new kid over. Especially a guy like Crimson who hangs on his streak. You think he'd say "No, fuck him, I want to go over him because I'm Goldberg"? The only way Goldberg will go over Crimson is if management told him to. And with the way they're building Crimson and how high they are on him, and the fact that Goldberg will be there short term and Crimson will stick around for a long time (he's only 26), and the simple detail that this is a BUSINESS and Goldberg beating Crimson and leaving pro wrestling has ZERO benefits long term, you tell me if they'll job him to Goldberg.

The guy wants to wrestle one last time for his family and his son. If he faces Crimson, he'll lose and I don't think he gives a shit. Michaels didn't care and he lost his very last match. Flair lost his "last" match and continues to lose and put guys over. It's not about winning or losing, it's about wrestling and going out in style. Putting a young guy like Crimson over in a good match, your last match, would elevate you in the eyes of so many fans while others chose to wrestle guys their age or older.

He does for Crimson - young, talented but green kid with loads of potential - what so many vets and established wrestlers did for Goldberg when he was a young, talented and green guy with loads of potential. If that's not a proper way to go out I don't know what is.
 
I don't get Internet fans.


Really? I beg to differ. I didn't know your suppose to push everyone that has the personality like The Rock. :rolleyes:

Brock Lesnar and Lashley had an "it" factor ? NO.

Doesn't Sheamus have the same freaking thing?


Yeah, I don't think he had a great personality either. I seriously don't get the "blah" nonsense. It's almost a copout considering Goldberg never got on the mic or was that great to watch besides squash matches.

Yeah I don't get idiots that think Crimson is the next anything. he's BORING and doesn't get hardly a pop.

Oh yeah..learn what the hell you're talking about.

THE IRON CROSS , doesn't look a DAMN thing like a celtic cross. wow how old are you?


Goldberg has a intensity , an it factor. In ways that are similar to the Road Warriors,... which is different than the Rock which is more about charisma.

If your intention was to try to shoot my post down, you FAILED miserably.
 

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