Yeah, no. One week does not equal being the top guy, sorry. If that's the case, then we might as well call Mark Henry the top guy this week because he won two matches. Or call Triple H the top guy the week he became COO. No, that's not how it works.
Did Mark Henry outsell Cena in merchandise as CM Punk did? Or how about our current COO HHH? No, the issue here is CM Punk did something no one else in WWE has in over 5 years. It's a relatively easy concept to grasp, but you seem to dismiss it as meaningless. Which is laughable, since even you said WWE should build Punk as Cena's equal. So, by your own admission, Punk is on Cena's level now. And whether his spot in merchandise is temporary or not, he's still having a breakout year. Definately worthy of being the top guy on RAW, since he's proved to everyone he is as hot now as anyone in WWE.
Well, I just explained what would convince me, so I don't see how you can not know. Maybe you could go back and read.
That's a huge bit of ironic statement here. You have been dismissing any logic evidence that CM Punk is reaching new heights in the company. Just b/c you refuse to see it doesn't mean it isn't happening. It's clear your being a mark for Cena limits your comprehension of the obvious. Funny you say I should go back and read, when all you have been doing is ignoring any views but your own. Not my definition of keeping an open mind when you debate issues. Then again, it doesn't seem like you think logically when it comes to any issue involving Cena. So, it's pointless to try and make you see anything objectively.
I didn't dismiss anything. I acknowledged the accomplishment. Work on your reading comprehension, please.
Not gonna repeat what I just said above, so heed your own advice and read it. That is, if you can stop making lame attempts at taking shots at me. It only serves to make any argument you use look weak and inferior.
One week is not a trend or a pattern.
It's apparent you missed my whole point above, so I'll say it one more time in caps. IF YOU GO BY PATTERNS AND TRENDS, THEN CM PUNK'S POPULARITY WILL NOT DECLINE ANYTIME SOON. Meaning, in all likelyhood, his merchandise sales will remain as high as they are now. If you don't follow patterns or trends, then you can't predict the future. However, it seems you have already predicted Punk's being #1 in merchandise sales is a flash in the pan occurance. Who are you to state that as an indisputable fact? Do you have some psychic power that I'm not aware of? No one knows if Punk's status now is temporary, but we don't currently have any evidence to draws conclusions in stone at this point. It's all really guesses and random speculation. Hell, I'll admit mine is nothing more than a guess, but you can't seem to do that.
Cena's fans have been solidly behind him since 2005. Do you honestly think Punk has more fans than Cena after a few weeks?
This statement is just plain out pathetic. Cena's fans have been solidly behind him since 2005? Really? Cause fans have been turning on him since 2006, and he is now receiving a mixed reaction at best. You seem to be in heavy denial about that in all the threads that are Cena related. Not to mention you totally took my comments out of context. I said fans have been solidy behind Punk since his infamous promo and departure storyline. How is that inaccurate or twisting facts??? I'd say fans giving Punk a strong ovation everywhere he goes and Cena receiving a mixed reaction does imply Punk has more fans. Both are faces, yet only one is doing his role effectively. You do the math.
I'm sorry, I forgot the workers were in charge of changing their characters. Oh wait, they're not, booking is. I also forgot that Punk has had a wildly successful character that propelled him to the top of the company before this one. Oh wait, he hasn't. Moving on.
Another clear example of you making an ignorant statement. While booking is responsible for some character changes, the wrestlers themselves have alot of input in what they do on TV. If you can't understand that basic concept, then you aren't a true follower of wrestling. Punk has kept reinventing himself when his character gets stale. So does Jericho everytime he returns. Do you honestly believe that is a coincidence? I guess by your logic booking also kept them down and made their characters stale. Wrestlers at the top of the card that are popular tend to have the ability to dictate what direction their characters take. Don't believe me? Cena has resisted this inevitable heel turn ever since he started getting booed or mixed reactions. He's said it on radio shows, TV interviews and acknowledged it in his promos numerous times. That's pretty much proof positive that Cena is partly controlling the direction of his character. But, I bet you'll completely dismiss this as well and try to ignore it or state some phony reasons why it isn't true. Moving on...
Yes, I never denied this.
Maybe not, but you sure have been denying that Punk is on Cena's level. Considering his current popularity and overall standing in WWE, I beg to differ. His accomplishments tend to prove otherwise.
More title accolades? Four world titles is better than Cena's twelve? One IC Title is better than Cena's three US Titles? What?
Once again, you tend to lose the intended point. For all Cena's supposed more accolades, Punk's accomplishments stack up well against Cena's, considering Punk has only been in WWE for 5 years. Cena has been in WWE for almost ten years, so in that time, he's barely got more accolades than Punk. And the only accolades where he's got noticably more than Punk is in world title reigns and Royal Rumble win. Otherwise, they have accomplished about as much. To claim anything otherwise is completely ignoring the list several ppl have listed in various Punk/Cena threads.
False, and false. Punk is very over, but he's not "way more over" than Cena. Ridiculous claim that once again proves that you have selective hearing.
Wow, your argument has several holes in logic here. Could it be any more evident that you are too biased as a Cena mark to acknowledge the obvious? Punk is way more over than Cena, b/c he gets very strong face reactions, whereas Cena gets heavily mixed reactions. Trying to claim I can't hear the difference is laughable and proves you have no other valid argument here than personal attacks. Otherwise, the name calling and flaming wouldn't be necessary. If you can't hear the difference when Cena enters and when Punk enters, you aren't listening. Cena gets way moe of a mixed reaction, thus proving he isn't as over with the fans as Punk is. Ignoring that fact doesn't lend any more credibility to what you're saying.
True, and possibly true. Doesn't mean Cena should turn. Remember that Miz and Truth aren't actually fired, and that people like Christian are on every week now.
Actually, it does mean Cena should turn. If Del Rio isn't ready to turn, then who is left to turn as far as big names on RAW? Miz and Truth aren't on Cena's level and Christian is on SD. So, that leaves CM Punk and Cena as far as huge names on RAW. Out of those two options, Cena receives a mixed reaction, meaning he should be the logical choice to turn. Half the fans have wanted it for 5 years or so, and I'd say rhat does justify a turn for him. Why turn Punk with the reactions he's been receiving this year? B/c Cena marks deny his character having a problem or being stale? There's really no logical reason to turn the face who is actually being cheered heavily by the fans. It makes far more sense for Cena, since his upcoming fued with The Rock is surely gonna gain him more boos any way. Not a hard decision if you ask me.
Not enough to justify a turn. Not even close.
Turning him heel also is not going to increase his merchandise sales. They're not going to get any higher than they are now, and you'd be losing the biggest percentage of people who buy them (kids). Plenty of adults would still hate Cena even if he turned.
Wow, not even close enough to justify a turn? So, the fans giving him a mixed reaction consistently for 5 years or longer DOESN'T WARRANT A HEEL TURN? If anything, Cena doing a heel turn would refresh his character and possibly gain some of his haters back. Most kids don't care who is heel, as even kids do like heels. It's not quite as black and white as you think here. I'm sure some adults still wouldn't like Cena, but overall, WWE should listen to their fans. Even Cena has acknowledged that, so he should heed his own advice. A heavily mixed reaction means fans wanna see him turn. Using lame excuses like the make a wish foundation and him not being a mean guy aren't gonna cut it. If you don't listen to the fans, then they'll continue to hate you. Especially if you get streotyped as a one dimensional character.
