Benoit was never over-rated. In fact, he was always under-rated. He was one of the best technicians in the sport, and could carry anyone in the ring. After he got to the WWE, he was able to work on his mic skills, and was able to start working some feuds. In WCW he was overshadowed by the entire nWo v. WCW angle, and he never got time as "the man" in ECW. He only had one main event title, because of the family tragedy. He was going to ECW to give it a name again, and then he almost definitely would've been back on another brand for a push.
Chris Benoit: Hall of Fame Worthy?
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Benoit was never over-rated. In fact, he was always under-rated. He was one of the best technicians in the sport, and could carry anyone in the ring. After he got to the WWE, he was able to work on his mic skills, and was able to start working some feuds. In WCW he was overshadowed by the entire nWo v. WCW angle, and he never got time as "the man" in ECW. He only had one main event title, because of the family tragedy. He was going to ECW to give it a name again, and then he almost definitely would've been back on another brand for a push.
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as much as it hurts me to sayit i have too: how could the WWE put an murderer into the hof? Cb without an doubt is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time! the crippler crossface in my opinion was the greatest move, that triple threat match at wm20 was the best main event. but its al most like that never happened1 he has been deleted from WWE history essentially! besides how could u respect a man whpo murders his own family!? its about his actions not his achievements. because i absolutely loved the guy as an performer
SixStrangSmoker
Dark Match Jobber
of course he's worthy. As horrible as the murders were, they have no affect on his pro wrestling skills. This is similar to the "Does O.J. belong in the football HOF?"
...of course he does
...of course he does
BigLeagueG26
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Chris Benoit was a great wrestler i liked watching him in the ring, he was a great mat technician, based on skill and accomplishments i would say yes vote him in but on the reality side of things I'm still not sure,murdering a woman and a child are anyone is not acceptable at all and Vinny Mac wants nothing 2 do with the Name Chris Benoit...Feelings Subject 2 Change!
As someone who has taken several Psychology classes and studies mental illness, I feel for the man I really do. I am not condoning his actions in any way, it was wrong and it is unforgivable. But the fact of the matter is, it was avoidable. I don't know that seeing a psychiatrist regularly and/or taken medication would have changed things, delayed it, or done nothing..but I know that there would have been a chance.
Now as far as a wrestling hall of fame goes..he deserves it. Should you put him in today? Not necessarily as it still wasn't that long ago that he committed those heinous acts, But I think if you want 10 even 20 years, and let things really cool down then you will be able to. I hate judging hall of fame worthiness in wrestling or any other sport based on anything but what they did in the ring, on the field/court/ice or whatever the situation. Pete Rose deserves to be in the basball hall of fame ladies and gents because he was one of the all-time greats..and made a mistake AFTER his playing time was over. Now Benoit's in-ring career was not yet over by a long shot, but he has the credentials to be on the short list of hall of fame candidates. When I think of technical wrestlers his name is at the top of the list along with Angle, Hart, Jericho, and Malenko. He was involved in major angles, won major titles in every promotion he was in, and had some of the most memorable matches I have ever seen (anyone going to forget his ladder match with Jericho or that classic WM moment with he and Eddie after a classic WM match?). Based strictly on his career, there can be no denying he deserves the hall of fame. Will he get in? I'm not going to say never..but it definitely won't be anytime soon.
Now as far as a wrestling hall of fame goes..he deserves it. Should you put him in today? Not necessarily as it still wasn't that long ago that he committed those heinous acts, But I think if you want 10 even 20 years, and let things really cool down then you will be able to. I hate judging hall of fame worthiness in wrestling or any other sport based on anything but what they did in the ring, on the field/court/ice or whatever the situation. Pete Rose deserves to be in the basball hall of fame ladies and gents because he was one of the all-time greats..and made a mistake AFTER his playing time was over. Now Benoit's in-ring career was not yet over by a long shot, but he has the credentials to be on the short list of hall of fame candidates. When I think of technical wrestlers his name is at the top of the list along with Angle, Hart, Jericho, and Malenko. He was involved in major angles, won major titles in every promotion he was in, and had some of the most memorable matches I have ever seen (anyone going to forget his ladder match with Jericho or that classic WM moment with he and Eddie after a classic WM match?). Based strictly on his career, there can be no denying he deserves the hall of fame. Will he get in? I'm not going to say never..but it definitely won't be anytime soon.
As a wrestler Benoit does deserve a Hall of Fame slot. We can't argue that he gave alot to the business and that his in-ring ability was almost second to none. Everyone respected him... up till he did what he did. I've always insisted that Chris Benoit (the wrestler) should be a Hall of Famer... as for Chris Benoit (the murderer)... well that alone speaks for itself. Its tragic though that we all are left with this question of whether one of the very best wrestlers of all time should be inducted into the WWE hall of fame when normally it would be obivous what the answer would be.
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Seriously, you think Benoit is overrated? Honestly?
Have a look at ALL of his matches. On his part, they're superb. His technical skills were surpassed by only perhaps Angle or Hart. I mean, seriously, look past the title reigns. If you actually paid any attention to his matches then you'd realise that he's fantastic in the ring. He always gave 100% and helped MVP DRASTICALLY improve in the ring. Look to interviews from MVP, he said Benoit was the man to further himself. Please, do some research.
I thought Benoit was the greatest, I idolized him since his Stampede days. Although I don't condone it... I understand. Seriously who hasn't wanted to kill their wife and/or kid at some point that doesn't mean you actually go out and do it though. All joking aside Benoit is more than worthy to be in the hall of fame BUT it wouldn't be a wise move it would creat such bad publicity they (general media) would look at the past incident and just recycle all that bullshit about wrestling deaths, steroids it's really not worth it in the long run. Had it happened during the attitude era I say go for it the WWE had a we don't give a fuck, push the boundaries type mentality. Not now though especially since they're trying for a more family friendly type of show.......killing your wife and kid very anti-family friendly not to mention all the other shit that goes with it. So my vote is 100% YES but sadly it's not worth it
Benoit is ridicolously overated, how someone with no mic skills or charisma is able to win a World Title I will never know. He was never a draw and his matches are overated too, Benoits best asset was his ability to sell in my opinion, however there are still others i.e. HBK who are better at it then he was. Benoit is a wrestler who often failed to connect to the crowd during his matches, so you have to criticise his storytelling ability also. I'm not saying he was a bad wrestler but he doesn't deserve to be in the hall of fame just because 'he gave a lot to the business'.
No doubt based on the career he had is a simple answer.Yes without the tragedy that took place Benoit is Hall of Fame material.Hes had some measure of success everywhere hes been.Hes had memorable feuds and moments in all 3 of the top wrestling companies around in the 90's.He was a pure wrestler.He wasn't just some cocky 5 move wrestler with better then average mic skills that was pushed instead of him.I've on a few occasions compared Chris Benoit of WCW to the Rob Van Dam of WWE.Both of these guys were full of potential and in my eyes extremely under-utilized when they could have been put in feuds with nearly any on the card and should have had more title runs then they were given.
Now back to the question at hand.I really can't say i see Vince allowing Benoit to be inducted anytime within the next 10-15 year's.What he did in the ring speaks for itself but what he did to his family should not go unnoticed.The answer for me is easy as judging by his skill yes he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame one day.I just wouldn't be surprised if we don't see it for year's to come.Until the WWE is sure that congress and others have forgotten pro wrestling and have other things to talk about we wont see Benoit inducted if ever.
Now back to the question at hand.I really can't say i see Vince allowing Benoit to be inducted anytime within the next 10-15 year's.What he did in the ring speaks for itself but what he did to his family should not go unnoticed.The answer for me is easy as judging by his skill yes he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame one day.I just wouldn't be surprised if we don't see it for year's to come.Until the WWE is sure that congress and others have forgotten pro wrestling and have other things to talk about we wont see Benoit inducted if ever.
Scott Free
The man of a thousand rest holds.
Let me ask you something, is it not inevitable that a person like Benoit would have shown symptoms of mental illness way before the tragedy happened ? There's some stories about him becoming more and more paranoid, and other bits, but there's no story about the WWE showing any kind of concern about any of such symptoms.
As far as him being in the HOF, he should be there, and I also consider the censoring of his past performances unfair, even if one despises Benoit, he didn't do solo matches, the other performers are being robbed of their contribution to the business and the fans are being robbed out of classic wrestling matches, this because the WWE got into some hot water over the tragedy, personally,I believe they deserved it.
Chrisjeffers
Occasional Pre-Show
NO ONE SURPASSED BENOIT!!!
now that thats out of the way! No he shouldn't!
Pete rose couldn't enter the MLB HOF because of steroid use!
Lets look at it the way it is insted of a fanticy world!
Benoit is a murderer! He is a woman killer and a kiddy killer!
Now with that said Who still thinks he should be in the hall of fame?
There has to be a line that you can't cross! is killing your wife and kid just before that line?
P.S.
I have always loved and respected Chris Benoit! since the first time I have seen him V.S. Booker T for the T.V. Title... That Finley held!
now that thats out of the way! No he shouldn't!
Pete rose couldn't enter the MLB HOF because of steroid use!
Lets look at it the way it is insted of a fanticy world!
Benoit is a murderer! He is a woman killer and a kiddy killer!
Now with that said Who still thinks he should be in the hall of fame?
There has to be a line that you can't cross! is killing your wife and kid just before that line?
P.S.
I have always loved and respected Chris Benoit! since the first time I have seen him V.S. Booker T for the T.V. Title... That Finley held!
Scott Free
The man of a thousand rest holds.
Rose was blackballed because he gambled on his own team games, you know, something DIRECTLY connected with his performance in the sport. Benoit had a mental meltdown, which some people believe was related to his profession, yet it had nothing to do with his performance in the ring which is part of wrestling history.
should benoit be inducted by:
Wrestling ability? yes
Influence on wrestling? yes
Wrestling achievements? yes
i cant disagree he wasnt one of the greatest wrestlers of all time, i myself was a fan.
But the answer is still a solid no.
just imagine at the hall of fame ceramony: "and our next inductee chris benoit" video package, "here to induct chris benoit into the hall of fame, ladies and gentlemen, Chris Jericho" ok, so y2j comes out. y2j then gives a speech about the life of benoit per usual. then to accept the induction on behalf of benoit........... his mother and father perhaps?
they give a speech on how chris loved wrestling, blah blah yada yada yada. then what do they say? "chris and his family are looking down here from heaven?" "chris is doing what he loves up there in heaven, wrestling all the greats that have passed on?"
of corse not the wwe fans arent stupid. how can anyone be accepted into a hall of fame who committed murder to his own family before taking his own life. giving the wwe a horrific time and a terrible name with the media all over them like a swarm of flies.
and he sure as hell isnt looking down from, or wrestling the greats in heaven.
hes wrestling in hell. and last week he just got squashed by hitler as the gobbledygooker.
Wrestling ability? yes
Influence on wrestling? yes
Wrestling achievements? yes
i cant disagree he wasnt one of the greatest wrestlers of all time, i myself was a fan.
But the answer is still a solid no.
just imagine at the hall of fame ceramony: "and our next inductee chris benoit" video package, "here to induct chris benoit into the hall of fame, ladies and gentlemen, Chris Jericho" ok, so y2j comes out. y2j then gives a speech about the life of benoit per usual. then to accept the induction on behalf of benoit........... his mother and father perhaps?
they give a speech on how chris loved wrestling, blah blah yada yada yada. then what do they say? "chris and his family are looking down here from heaven?" "chris is doing what he loves up there in heaven, wrestling all the greats that have passed on?"
of corse not the wwe fans arent stupid. how can anyone be accepted into a hall of fame who committed murder to his own family before taking his own life. giving the wwe a horrific time and a terrible name with the media all over them like a swarm of flies.
and he sure as hell isnt looking down from, or wrestling the greats in heaven.
hes wrestling in hell. and last week he just got squashed by hitler as the gobbledygooker.
Are you sure Benoit isnt in heaven? While Im not saying he is, but he could very well be up in the skies. Im not trying to make this a matter of religion but it is possible for him to be in heaven. If Benoit believed in Jesus as his personal Savior he could very well be up there.
Now I said he should be inducted into the HOF only because of his wrestling accomplishments. No matter what he did on the last days of his life, no one can argue his wrestling resume. No can he be inducted without mentioning what happened? I highly doubt it just as I highly doubt he will ever be inducted.
Billie Jean
Mr.Wrestlemania
Of course he does. The HOF shouldn't be for how you conduct yourself as a pearson, althrough its important, u can't take away the acomplicments in WWE, ECW and WCW. Its hard to discarge all the titles hes won when no matter what people are still going to know who he worked for. In the ring he was second to none, so yeah I think he should be in.
Jack-Hammer
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Everyone knows that Benoit killed his wife and son and then himself. It was a horrible tragedy that shows the dark side of professional wrestling and the toll it can take. However, when it comes to being in a professional wrestling hall of fame of any sort, it doesn't mean a damn thing. I'm sorry, it might not be politically correct, but that's just how it is.
Chris Benoit is arguably the best in-ring performer to debut in modern pro wrestling history. He was tenacious, determined and always did his absolute best to put on a good show for the fans, even when he was put into some shitty angle with a worker that wasn't anywhere near his caliber. From the early 1990s, Benoit won almost every major professional wrestling championship that can be found in an American wrestling company.
I'm not worried about the man's spiritual rewards or consequences, I'm not concerned with public reaction and outcry over it. It doesn't negate the contributions he made to pro wrestling. That being said, there's no chance in Hell that he ever will be placed into any pro wrestling hall of fame because the general public will having something new to bitch and moan about. Nobody here condones what Benoit did, but it does no good trying to pretend the man didn't exist and wasn't one of the best at what he did either.
Chris Benoit is arguably the best in-ring performer to debut in modern pro wrestling history. He was tenacious, determined and always did his absolute best to put on a good show for the fans, even when he was put into some shitty angle with a worker that wasn't anywhere near his caliber. From the early 1990s, Benoit won almost every major professional wrestling championship that can be found in an American wrestling company.
I'm not worried about the man's spiritual rewards or consequences, I'm not concerned with public reaction and outcry over it. It doesn't negate the contributions he made to pro wrestling. That being said, there's no chance in Hell that he ever will be placed into any pro wrestling hall of fame because the general public will having something new to bitch and moan about. Nobody here condones what Benoit did, but it does no good trying to pretend the man didn't exist and wasn't one of the best at what he did either.
Death-Magnetic
Dark Match Jobber
The guy brutally murdered his family. Of course he shouldn't. It would be like the NFL inducting OJ Simpsion into the HOF. It would look really bad on them for ignoring the terrible things he did.
Deexter Jorgan
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There are two schools of thought on this:
Firstly the achievement side yes he does because he has achieved so much in wrestling history, he has worked his ass off to be where he was and made a name for himself in this there was nothing he cared about more then anyone or anything then wrestling, he is a multiple time world champion, us champion, tag team champion and ic champion but the point still stands.
Secondly:
Benoit as a maniac needs to be taken into account and the fact that he was not in his right mind fucked his whole career up, he destroyed his career and his achievements by what he did to his family and if the WWE attempts to put him in the hall of fame they will get more scrutiny then any company world wide the media will have a field day...
So I have to say a solid No
Firstly the achievement side yes he does because he has achieved so much in wrestling history, he has worked his ass off to be where he was and made a name for himself in this there was nothing he cared about more then anyone or anything then wrestling, he is a multiple time world champion, us champion, tag team champion and ic champion but the point still stands.
Secondly:
Benoit as a maniac needs to be taken into account and the fact that he was not in his right mind fucked his whole career up, he destroyed his career and his achievements by what he did to his family and if the WWE attempts to put him in the hall of fame they will get more scrutiny then any company world wide the media will have a field day...
So I have to say a solid No
Henry Hill
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are we discussing wether or not chris benoit's career is hall of fame worthy or his crime? quite frankly at this point the line is blurred so much that it doesn't matter anymore. in my opinion he was one of the best in ring performers of his generations, and the man that did that was clearly mentally disabled and not the same person that we all watched on television. the problem is the interpretation of the general public and casual wrestling fans will always be that what is being honored is the murderer and not the man that brought so much intrigue and ingenuity to his craft, nor the man that entertained millions as was his job that he honestly did too much for. am i asking anyone to forget what happened? no not one damn bit, but exercise some sense in what we're talking about. no one wants to forget what he did, but at the same time no one should want to dismiss his career either.
Benoit should be in bar fucking none. This is a pro wrestling hall of fame. Benoit was a great wrestler. Better than half the people in that damned hall of fame. Benoit is one of the most well rounded wrestlers ever. he could go to the top rope, and have an aerial assault, he could destroy you on the ground, and his strength was very underestimated. Benoit was fucking strong. He suplexed people over his head 3 times at a time. Sometimes even more. The intensity he brought into a match was freaking great, and the way he applied the crossface, with so much energy and force it made it very believable.
The only argument about Benoit not getting in is the way he ended his family's life. This in my opinion is complete and utter bullshit. Benoit should be remembered and judged as a wrestler only. Not for his actions outside the ring, only what he did inside the ring, and if he is judged by that like he should be by everybody than fuck yes he makes it.
The only argument about Benoit not getting in is the way he ended his family's life. This in my opinion is complete and utter bullshit. Benoit should be remembered and judged as a wrestler only. Not for his actions outside the ring, only what he did inside the ring, and if he is judged by that like he should be by everybody than fuck yes he makes it.
Platypus Palsy
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He should be in but he won't. He had a great career but he's been completely ignored because of the double murder-suicide.
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