Chad Ochocinco v. Coach Lewis at Lockdown?

[Kenny Powers]

Anything is possible, but Ochocinco probably doesn't come cheap. He would probably align himself with WWE before ever coming to TNA. He was the guest host last year on Raw after all. If this does happen it will gain TNA some publicity, but do people besides Bengals fans even like Chad Johnson? He was more popular the last few years, but now that he and his team are pretty much a joke, I don't think the majority of people will care to see him in a match with his former coach.

I wouldn't buy the PPV. If this does happen I feel that it will get them exposure for the short term but then die out like everything eventually does. I don't think this match will drastically change the number of PPV buyers. I could be wrong, but there hasn't really been a wrestler or a celebrity in the past with TNA that can make me think otherwise.

 

[stupac420]

as a football fan and a wrestling fan I would really enjoy seein this go down. My dad even agrees with me he said he would order the ppv just to see that match ad he hates wrestling lol

 

[BuckshotBrian13]

Not trying to spoil anyone's hopes, but there is no way in hell this is going to happen. As much I would love to see these two square off in the ring, the NFL would never allow it. I see fines written all over this. The only reason Chad Johnson/Ochocinco (whatever you want to call him) was on WWE since it's targeted to kids now of days and the NFL wants the whole family watching to make it a family show. It was good publicity for them to see Chad have some fun with the WWE.

Now a cage match in TNA is a different. Here's some reasons why.

1. It's a cage match and not a special guest host. Your going to have Johnson and Lewis square off in a cage match on a tv-14 show full of profanity. Not going to happen.

2. The NFL would put a stop to this immediately seeing they don't want to ruin their image more that it is damaged with troubled players (i.e. Ben Roethlisberger and Michael Vick) and their most likely up coming lockout for next year's season.

3. I highly doubt that Marvin Lewis will even accept the bid. Johnson probably would in a heartbeat, but he is a star in the NFL. If Lewis accepts this, it will hurt his image more than it is now and cause him to get fired. He had only managed to get 2 winning seasons in Cincy in 10 years and you have Johnson/Ochocinco and QB Carson Palmer looking to trades. Lewis barely kept his job, and I highly doubt he would put it on the line for a quick pay check in TNA.

That justs shows you that there is no chance of this match happening. Period.

 

[Mustang Sally]

One of the Main problems that TNA has is marketing and getting exposure for the TNA brand. Ochocinco is a HUGE Personality and this could give TNA a ton of media exposure.

Your point is well taken, but shouldn't there be a question as to whether this is the kind of exposure TNA wants? Remember, when celebrities have participated in wrestling matches, there's always been a wrestler in there to guide the action. Dennis Rodman and David Arquette weren't left to fight each other; they had a pro wrestler to make sure the match was conducted in an orderly fashion, often allowing the celebrity to take the advantage and get some shots in.

Here, we're talking about two non-wrestlers fighting each other. Even worse, it's a publicity seeking jerk going against a 52 year old man. If they treat the whole match as a joke, TNA could come off looking like fools for booking it in the first place. But if they take it seriously, the whole spectacle could look even more ridiculous; and possibly dangerous. These men don't know how to work a match or sell for their opponent.

It's not going to happen.......and that's the best news for TNA.

 

[WolfNyte]

News flash Humanoids No one really cares about OchoStinko they care as much about him as they do his team mate Totally Over-rated. Its gonna be like showcasing Tom Arnold against Todd Bridges would any one really care ....Nope.

It might get a quick 5 second flash on ESPN but thats about it. Now if it was Tony Romo vs Jerry Jones ...Maybe some would show intrest or Brady vs Belichek. Sorry not even Cincinati cares about Ochostinko anymore.

Do you here that ...thats the sound of another nail being drawn for the TNA Coffin with a sigh of desperation.

 

[Wolfdemon]

This kind of shit makes it really hard for me to stay as a loyal Bengals fan. Johnson just wants more media and a nice paycheck in the offseason. I HIGHLY doubt that Marvin Lewis would agree to anything as idiotic as this. I don't even understand why Chad would want to risk his health for one "Grudge Match". This is an awful idea and would give a really bad name to all the Bengals.

As for TNA brining this match in it is a fantastic idea. This could get ppv buy rates through the rough. I really don't see this happening and for good reason.

 

[WolfNyte]

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As for TNA brining this match in it is a fantastic idea. This could get ppv buy rates through the rough. I really don't see this happening and for good reason.

Ok so get PPV buy rates? Where in Bengal land? Dude really I mean great posting name and all but seriously. No one really cares about Stinko except Bengal land. Do you think areas like LA, NY or Dallas the larger markets give a crap about Stinko or if he fights his coach? Think realistically there would be no PPV Buy change except in the cinci area.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I see no real problem with this at all. Wrestling purists that seem to forget that pro wrestling is a business and that the goal of a business is to make money are going to piss and moan about this as if it's the end of the world.

My response: Take your head out of your ass, look at the world as it actually is and grow the fuck up.

Courting outside media attention is a good thing in my view. The WWE does it on a somewhat regular basis at times. Sometimes the media comes to them, sometimes they go to the media. It's all about getting your company exposure in an attempt to have it grow. It's not like TNA is going to sign these two and give them championship runs with the company.

I'm not going to hold my breath on this actually happening, but TNA is getting some media exposure with this and if by some miracle this actually does happen, it could potentially be a turning point in the company in terms of growth. Maybe people will watch that haven't watched before, will like what they see and stick around.

 

[Dean Winchester]

Why can't they have Chad Johnson instead fight a midcard wrestler from TNA instead of his own coach? Like have him be a heel and wrestle someone from the midcard. He could be apart of Immortal/Fortune for awhile like Dennis Rodman and Karl Malone was apart of the NWO. I dono who they could get fight Johnson but maybe someone like Amazing Red. A guy who is short and has same body mass as Johnson so the fight would look a little realistic. Plus with Johnson having Immortal/Fortune on his side it greater his odds. Now I have Johnson win the match but win dirty, like get a help from an Fortune or Immortal guy or both.

 

[SpecialFNK]

I'm not a big NFL fan and don't watch it that closely, but last I heard Chad Johnson was one of the best WR in football. I do know that name wise he is one of the biggest names. I'm not sure just how much buy rates would be everywhere, but the media coverage would be incredible.

could this be an idea that TNA could try in the future, if/when this Johnson/Lewis thing does not happen? could other NFL players get involved? imagine one of the games best WR(like Johnson) against one of the best defensive players, like Ray Lewis or Troy Polamalu.

even if TNA could want players from the NFL, is this something that could be allowed to happen from Roger Goodell?
maybe with a possible NFL work stoppage for next season it would be a greater chance at happening?

regardless of whether NFL players could/would/should get involved, bringing in celebrities could be a good idea for TNA. doesn't WWE use celebrities for Wrestlemania? I remember recently Big Show was in the ring against Mayweather.
getting athletes from sports could help a lot to get "TNA" name out more.

 

[shattered dreams]

This is just TNA trying to throw their name in the publicity storm surrounding the two. Smart move. It might lead to some sort of Chad Johnson appearance but Marvin Lewis isn't doing any of this. Worth noting it is conceivable Lewis would be his ex-coach by lockdown. Regardless, I doubt Johnson (who apparently is changing his name back) would be allowed to participate physically when Pacman wasn't even allowed to. Interesting to think about but this thing is never happening. It would be a marketing dream if it did though, purists be damned.

 

[Dean Winchester]

This is just TNA trying to throw their name in the publicity storm surrounding the two. Smart move. It might lead to some sort of Chad Johnson appearance but Marvin Lewis isn't doing any of this. Worth noting it is conceivable Lewis would be his ex-coach by lockdown. Regardless, I doubt Johnson (who apparently is changing his name back) would be allowed to participate physically when Pacman wasn't even allowed to. Interesting to think about but this thing is never happening. It would be a marketing dream if it did though, purists be damned.

Lol this would not be a marketing dream. Good publicity for TNA but not a marketing dream. Nobody outside NFL fans even know who Marvin Lewis is. People that do not watch NFL that may know who Chad Johnson may be. Promos most likely will be garbage between Lewis and Johnson.

 

[MB1025]

Lol this would not be a marketing dream. Good publicity for TNA but not a marketing dream. Nobody outside NFL fans even know who Marvin Lewis is. People that do not watch NFL that may know who Chad Johnson may be. Promos most likely will be garbage between Lewis and Johnson.

Yeah the NFL fans who have been consistently breaking Monday Night Football records this year. Yeah that isn't a big audience at all. They eclipse WWE's audience by a ton. I love how some people are like no one outside of the NFL knows these guys like the NFL audience is a joke compared to the wrestling audience.

 

[FPSRussia]

If they're going to do this match, and Ochocinco/Johnson doesn't get in the ring with his coach, but an actual superstar, from a publicity standpoint I'd have to put him against a high-flyer, usually on ESPN and other sports media outlets they show mini-promo clips, and showing a few clips of high-flying flashy moves might catch the eye of some viewers and entice them to tune in.

 

[SpecialFNK]

unlikely Marvin Lewis would agree to this. Johnson started it on twitter. has Lewis made any comment at all?

could just Chad Johnson get involved with TNA in some way? maybe a current TNA wrestler could say something during Impact, something like why don't you leave the wrestling to the wrestlers. maybe Johnson could make a comment back. then Johnson could appear on an Impact and challenge this wrestler to a match(or vice versa). then you could have that match at one of the PPV? question is, what wrestler? maybe it would be better to have a heel wrestler, as Johnson being an NFL celebrity would probably have the crowd? also better to have a wrestler than can actually be good in the ring? maybe someone like AJ Styles? something like that could get Styles seen/known by A LOT more people than the regular viewers of Impact. ESPN would be all over it, Bengals WR Chad Johnson wrestling against TNA superstar AJ Styles.
if not Styles, who else could/would be good? I would imagine a face would not be a good choice. can't see someone like Morgan/Anderson/RVD making a challenge. if your going to do this, it would be better to use the exposure on a main event wrestler, rather than some mid card wrestler.

just throwing that out there.

 

[ABMorales787]

It better be a case of NFL going to TNA and not the other way around. If the idea comes from Chad and the coach themselves, then TNA has all the leverage to get what they want out of this opportunity. The media exposure obviously, and maybe even some more direct exposure to the wrestlers involved. With AJ Styles injured at the moment, he could be a likely pick to manage one of the guys. Having AJ pumping up Ochocinco and training him in videos could really make him get into the public eye.

But I gotta wonder what drove the two parties to negotiate in the first place? Did TNA reach out to them? Did the NFL player and coach suddenly decide to do it for publicity? And if so, why TNA? Did they see something in it? Was it Hogan? Maybe TNA is doing a lot better than we really believe and they took notice. Whatever the case, if it happens, great. An improvement over Eric Young vs Danny Bonaduce.

 

[Dean Winchester]

If they're going to do this match, and Ochocinco/Johnson doesn't get in the ring with his coach, but an actual superstar, from a publicity standpoint I'd have to put him against a high-flyer, usually on ESPN and other sports media outlets they show mini-promo clips, and showing a few clips of high-flying flashy moves might catch the eye of some viewers and entice them to tune in.

Yeah show the young superstars like AJ Styles doing the high flying moves and just show Flair and Hogan talking. But nobody will want to see Marvin Lewis fighting Chad Johnson. Just seeing that will be terrible on television or even in life person. Can imagine Lewis trying to take CJ down and thats laughable.

 

[dwith]

TNA as launched themselves everywhere in main stream mdeia with the offering's of a steel cage match to settle this situation with OCHOCINCO and the ref. It was just on FOX SPORTS, and several other sport's sources are covering it at least some. I think it's a brilliant thing for TNA to have done.

If this cage match actually happen's it would probably be the biggest buy rate in TNA history. The new's coverage following this whole situation up until the PPV would be great publicity for TNA, and launch them that much further into popularity.

Honestly right now I would have thought that VINCE MCMAHON, and the MACHINE as the WWE would have been jumping on something like this for WRESTLEMANIA, but TNA is IMO hungry, and there doing everything right, right now to get them some publicity where it might not usually be...

So what do you guy's think about TNA offering this steel cage match?

 

[MachoMadness1988]

I had a feeling just the offer would get them some media attention. I'm glad it's worked out a little so far. It will help make people more aware of TNA Wrestling and hopefully help make Lockdown that much bigger this year. Where would Wrestlemania be without celeb involvement?? I think celeb involvement, if done right, can be a great thing.

 

[Dean Winchester]

I rather see Raw Lewis and Chad Johnson wrestle midcarders from TNA as apart of Immortal/Fortune. Thats the only way to go in a situation like this I mean seriously Marvin Lewis will be terrible on the mic and wrestling. CJ atleast will be good on the mic talking leading up to the big fight. I think they should just have a couple of the NFL big names come in if they have an NFL lockout and get into the big storyline going on with Immortal/Fortune. Some of them can join Fortune/Immortal while the other guys join the TNA Resistence.

 

[LSN80]

I rather see Raw Lewis and Chad Johnson wrestle midcarders from TNA as apart of Immortal/Fortune. Thats the only way to go in a situation like this I mean seriously Marvin Lewis will be terrible on the mic and wrestling. CJ atleast will be good on the mic talking leading up to the big fight. I think they should just have a couple of the NFL big names come in if they have an NFL lockout and get into the big storyline going on with Immortal/Fortune. Some of them can join Fortune/Immortal while the other guys join the TNA Resistence.

This isn't going to be part of a main event angle, whatsoever, nor should it be. The idea of doing so would kill the credibility TNA does have. If it does indeed happen, it will be a one-off match, nothing more. It doesn't matter if the quality of the match is terrible. That's not the point. The goal would be exposure, and this would surely bring a boatload of it.

Sure, it’s a blatant publicity stunt. But it's a great one at that. It meshes perfectly well with Chad’s mastery of publicity.

Indeed, Chad is a lot smarter than most of us realize, as explained during the monologue portion of his Wednesday interview, where he stated he wanted to fight Lewis.

I think TNA should jump all over this if both parties are willing. It has a storyline that virtually writes itself. For the past eight years, Marvin Lewis coddled, cuddled, and enabled Chad's boorish behavior. It’s "wrong" for Lewis to have done nothing for years and then to all of a sudden snap as he did.

This is already getting a ton of mainstream attention, and nothing is close to official as of yet. That attention would be astounding if something like this actually took place. If I were TNA, Id pay both whatever asking price they wanted in order to make this happen.

 

[Dean Winchester]

This isn't going to be part of a main event angle, whatsoever, nor should it be. The idea of doing so would kill the credibility TNA does have. If it does indeed happen, it will be a one-off match, nothing more. It doesn't matter if the quality of the match is terrible. That's not the point. The goal would be exposure, and this would surely bring a boatload of it.

Sure, it’s a blatant publicity stunt. But it's a great one at that. It meshes perfectly well with Chad’s mastery of publicity.

Indeed, Chad is a lot smarter than most of us realize, as explained during the monologue portion of his Wednesday interview, where he stated he wanted to fight Lewis.

I think TNA should jump all over this if both parties are willing. It has a storyline that virtually writes itself. For the past eight years, Marvin Lewis coddled, cuddled, and enabled Chad's boorish behavior. It’s "wrong" for Lewis to have done nothing for years and then to all of a sudden snap as he did.

This is already getting a ton of mainstream attention, and nothing is close to official as of yet. That attention would be astounding if something like this actually took place. If I were TNA, Id pay both whatever asking price they wanted in order to make this happen.

I guess if they can get them both it would proably work out. But I just do not see Marvin Lewis doing this I mean the man is 52 years old and already on the fence to getting fired and this would be it.

 

[MoneyMack]

I dont even wanna read thru 5 pages of comments. It's not worth the time.

Anyone that thinks Marvin Lewis would do this, is honestly on f'n crack!! The guy is a NFL head coach! He will never step foot into a wrestling ring while he's employed by the NFL. Even when he's retired...I dont see it happening.

Chad wanting to do it doesnt suprise me in the least. He's a pub ****e to say the least. Marvin on the other hand...No fuckin way!!

 

[BJM0703]

TNA just wants to do this match to get mainstream media attention. Also TNA should not be wasting money by signing Chad and Marvin for this match. If TNA has money to sign Chad and Marvin for 1 match only how come they dont have money to pay what Goldberg wants to work for TNA?

 

[Notorious718]

SSC pretty much already nailed it. What TNA really needs is mainstream exposure and this is probably the best way to do it. CJ is one of the biggest personalities in the entire NFL and will more than likely garner many PPV views for Lockdown. Hey, any publicity is good publicity. Even if it pisses off many hardcore TNA fans (which it probably will) and the wrestling is gonna be shit (which it probably will be), it will get TNA the publicity it really needs right now. It's good for business so I'm okay with this.