Carters annoucement failure opinions

[WhatchaGonna Do]

Well, Dumb Dixie continues to make blunders after blunders. When TNA first appeared, I thought it was a fresh, entertaining product that was DIFFERENT from the WWE. Now, Dumb Dixie is trying to replicate the WWE instead of placing a product that is DIFFERENT from them.

Sure Dumb Dixie, keep Hogan, Bishcoff, Nash, Flair, Raven, Richards, Sting, Jarrett, Dreamer, Team 3D, and Vince Russo on your payroll. After all, they WERE stars of the 90'S, so they must be stars of today, right Dumb Dixie?

Paul Heyman... like him or not, would, at least, freshen a boring product that has no direction and MAKE stars out of the Jay Lethals, the Motor City Machine guns etc. He didn't run his own company in the right day-to-day business aspect but he DID make stars of no names and create excitement in the industry. He also did a great job with the new ECW with the restraints given to him by the McMahons, especially Shithead Steph! TNA needs direction and better TV production. These are things Heyman can make happen!

So in closing, Dumb Dixie, dump the aforementioned has-beens and do what you have to do to get someone with creativity. Maybe your ratings will increase and expenses will be lowered. Isn't THAT what you want?

 

[Sting's Bat]

I just wish she would shut up for a while, Im tired of all the "big" surprises that turn out to be mostly letdowns.

Really all it turns into is the owner who cries wolf which makes people not take her( and tna by extension) seriously, just twitter about ur pilates classes or something dixie cause ur hyping fails bigtime.

 

[ABMorales787]

The marquee says wrestling. I don't give a shit who's writing backstage, if it's Vince Russo, Paul Heyman or Michael Jackson's pet, Bubbles. I just want the action in the ring. We stomached the beginning of the Hogan/Bischoff regime, which was a huge clusterfuck featuring The Nasty Boys, The Band, Sean Morley, OJ, Ric Flair and more. I'm surprised The Godfather didn't show up. But here we are a few months later and things are starting to click. but there's a problem. The guys in creative are tired. Some want out, others have nothing to give. We need new people. Paul Heyman? OK. I somehow doubt he's gonna compose the entire creative team and fill the slot for Ferrera, Russo and other guys. He's just one guy. He's responsible for one of the biggest things to come to pro wrestling. Funny enough, he's also responsible for it's death. Twice. Just what kind of organization would spiral down to depend on the acquirement of one sole man? Because unless he's God himself, it's a bad business move for anyone. Dixie may not be all that smart for the wrestling business. But she's still a businesswomen. And a pretty successful one too. Many companies are falling, like apples from a tree. Panda Energy is still very strong. No way in hell am I gonna believe that a world recognized organization, would actually put it's hand's one sole guy. It's not marketable, its not viable, or believable. People make it seem like Dixie is a schoolgirl running a beauty store and just drools at her merchandise. No! She may be a bit misinformed on the wrestling, but she's still a successful businesswoman, bottomline. Whatever person gets so easily mislead by "reports" given by people who have zero connection to these companies, is probably "dumber" than Dixie.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

So Dixie Carter's big surprise announcement essentially turns out to be a big pile of nothing? Wow, what a complete and total shocker that is.

The only way that Paul Heyman would ever come to TNA Wrestling would be if he were given complete creative control and that was never going to happen. Russo is still going to be there as will Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff. Put those four in the same room together and at least three of them are going to be leaving that room in body bags. But, to be fair, it's not as if Heyman has shown himself to be a huge success when it comes to having complete control. After all, ECW did go belly up.

Heyman is off doing his own thing right now, he's busy with Brock Lesnar and all that.

 

[Derrtown]

Is this supposed to be about the Big surprise at Slammaversery? Because she never said she had a "big surprise" at SVXX. She said she had a "nice surprise" and that the major announcement will be revealed in the following weeks. I hate how people try to twist her words to bash TNA.

 

[WWEIsLife2]

Wow, if I had been your doctor at the time of your birth, I probably would have just thrown you back in.

Who says these things are a failure? The ONLY thing you can say is a failure was their attempt at Monday nights...the rest? Who says they are a failure? You? Are you now the one responsible for measuring success or failure for a wrestling company?

If TNA is a failure, why are they still in business? Why has Spike continued to let them do just about anything they want? Why does TNA now command 3 hours every Thursday night (or is it 4 now)? SpikeTV considers TNA a success, and Panda Energy has kept them around, so who the fuck are you to say whether they are a failure or success?

See, it's illogical thinking like yours that make people in the wrestling business laugh at fans. Who says a 2.0 is the mark of success or failure? Hell, the UFC draws more PPV buys than every WWE PPV, with the exception of Wrestlemania (and they regularly draw equal to Wrestlemania) and do so every month...and yet, their weekly TV show doesn't draw a 2.0, or at least, it didn't (haven't heard in a while). So, if the UFC, who regularly kicks the WWE's ass in just about everything is drawing less than a 2.0, are they not a success either?

Your thinking is just asinine. The fact is that everyone who is responsible for TNA's existence is happy with the company...maybe TNA hasn't reached the lofty goals it set for itself, but to say it's a failure is just silly.


Which is why it's a great thing Heyman didn't go to TNA. Because he would have run the place into the ground, like he did with ECW. Everyone always talks about how great the original ECW was...bullshit. It was terrible. It never drew ratings, it never made money...if you're not making money, how the fuck is that good booking? It's not.

Heyman LIVES to book for the "smart" fans, he's no different than Vince Russo. However, Heyman will book his show and be willing to lose big money in order to make the smart fan happy. Why do you think the WWE never trusted him with ECW Reunion? Because they knew he wouldn't be able to handle it.


What misery? They get solid ratings that have stayed steady for years, they put on a weekly national television program, they take PPVs across half of the country...what the fuck is this misery you're talking about?

Well im glad you,SpikeTV,Dixie & Company think TNA is such a success because I don't see it. Yeah they have a National TV Program and do House Shows across the Country but they hardly go outside of Orlando for a PPV expect maybe once and awhile but are they drawing any Money? I haven't seen it and where on the PPV Buyrates?

If they can afford Hogan,Bischoff,RVD,Sting,Jeff Hardy,Mr Kennedy,etc why can't they do more PPVs across the Country except once every couple months? The misery im talking about is the lack of brains that Company seems to have when it comes to alot of things like Relying on Ex-WWE,WCW,and ECW Guys to get them Ratings and such. I don't hate TNA but when it comes to someone who hasn't the 1st clue about how to run a place and needs to Tweet Announcments and do Public Meetings on TV just makes them look inept.

 

[Slyfox696]

Well im glad you,SpikeTV,Dixie & Company think TNA is such a success because I don't see it.

You don't have to see it. You're opinion on whether TNA is a success or not doesn't matter. That's the point I'm trying to get across to you.

Yeah they have a National TV Program and do House Shows across the Country but they hardly go outside of Orlando for a PPV expect maybe once

It's cheaper to stay in Orlando than to travel every month for a PPV. They got outside for the big ones they know they can cash in on. It's called good business.

and awhile but are they drawing any Money? I haven't seen it and where on the PPV Buyrates?

You haven't seen either of them because they don't have to give that information. They're not the WWE, they are not a publicly traded company, they don't have to release that information.

And, as I said, even if they are losing money, that was the whole point in Panda Energy buying them in the first place, so they win either way.

If they can afford Hogan,Bischoff,RVD,Sting,Jeff Hardy,Mr Kennedy,etc why can't they do more PPVs across the Country except once every couple months?

Because you have no idea how much those guys make per show/year, and you have no idea how much a PPV costs to take on the road compared to staying at home.

And that's fine, I don't either. My point is that since you don't know, you really can't use that as an argument.

The misery im talking about is the lack of brains that Company seems to have when it comes to alot of things like Relying on Ex-WWE,WCW,and ECW Guys to get them Ratings and such.

As opposed to relying on ex-ROH and OCW guys? I don't get it. Every company has feeder talent, who cares where it comes from?

I don't hate TNA but when it comes to someone who hasn't the 1st clue about how to run a place and needs to Tweet Announcments and do Public Meetings on TV just makes them look inept.

Those things are designed to stir interest, you really don't think they have business meetings behind closed doors? No wonder TNA doesn't have more fans, if the fans they do have are as stupid as you.

And what good would Paul Heyman do in any of that? The only thing he'd do is make it worse. He'd get rid of the guys who actually do make money and put on a show with a bunch of vanilla midgets who can't draw a dime. We've already seen that once before in TNA, why would we want it again?

The plain and simple truth is that the only way TNA will see a surge in popularity is when they hit upon the next lightening in a bottle. That's it, it's really the only thing that will help them, whether it be a superstar or a storyline, they just need the lightening in a bottle. Until that happens, they're never going to get much bigger than they are now...

...but they certainly could do a lot worse. Which is why it's good Heyman's not running things.

 

[JackBurton]

Most of the posts regarding the rumored outcome of this "big announcement" are a fail. For one reason and one reason only:

All the worst things attributed to Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan can be attributed to Paul Heyman. Fact. All the people parroting this IWC bullshit about Hogan and Bischoff are the same who're claiming Heyman is the answer.

Why have Paul Heymans past indiscretions been forgiven, or conveniently forgetten more to the point, where Bischoff and Hogans haven't? hmm lemme think.... maybe because the IWC and its champions don't have an agenda against Heyman?

Proves my theory - as bad as TNA, or WWE is, people chose sides like some group of tribal little school girls with skint knees and will basically call bullshit on any, and every, muthafuckin' little thing to support their bias.

Dixie can say whatever the hell she wants. If its a bad move from a business stand point then why should she, as inexperienced as she is (its been pointed out enough) be held to blame when there are, what? At least, hmm, 15, 20? People who are experienced and should FUCKING KNOW BETTER. Why arent they telling her? Why isnt ANYONE asking this question? Well I just did - I'd like a response.

Dixie promised you a surprise? Heyman promised food on the table for countless workers and never delivered. Shes a cunt - he's a hero

Go figure

 

[shattered dreams]

Of course not. They're the ones that voted in the poll though. If TNA wants to make it look legit, then push the guy the fans ask for or don't have the poll at all.

So you admit the IWC fans are the ones that voted in the poll. You admit they are not the majority of "the fans." Yet continue to claim "the fans" asked for it. Something does not add up here.

Well let's see. There's the thing where they say WE determine the rankings. I'm sure no one implied that it meant anything at all.

There is also the part where when they introduced they specifically said it was merely a part of what determines the rankings. In fact on the page where you click to vote they specifically say what is involved in the "process." I guess their problem is assuming some fans can read or understand a two sentence explanation. Why are Khali and Hornswoggle not tag champs yet? The fans clearly voted for them to be pushed to the top and they have not even had a match since then. Those wwe bookers are outrageous ignoring us like that!

So they signed him to a year long contract and aren't going to push him past a month for fear he'll leave? Do you have any idea how little sense that makes?

What are you talking about. When did they stop pushing him a month into the company? Are you telling me the WWE has never stalled someones trip to the top that was new to the company. Or even had them lose a lot of matches? To suggest TNA is the only one guilty of something like this is crazy.

Jarrett being the main target of either the top or second heel of the companyw ould qualify as being pushed to me. If you don't believe the ECW guys are getting pushed you're an idiot. And yes, come see Jay Lethal: Senior Assaulter!

Yeah all Jay lethal has done is assault flair. Show your ignorance of the product some more why don't you. Is being on tv pushed to you? It sure does not seem to be good enough for a "push" when you talk about wolfe. If it requires anything beyond being on tv I do not know how the ECW guys could presently be getting a push. Sometime soon? Yes, likely. Right now? Not by my definition.

Not really.....

So now you speak for "many" of a product you obviously have quite a bias against at the moment? If you haven't been doing steroids I am curious how your head got that big.

That's true. He shouldn't be in the company. Much better.

Yep, getting rid of someone on Hogan's level of fame will surely magically cure all the problems.

Alas though this is getting woefully off topic so I'll throw this in and drop it there:

Given the way TNA is structured at the moment, if Heyman is going to come in and "fix" everything, they're going to have to hit a huge reset button which is one of the dumbest things they could do. The old guys don't need to go, but the spotlight needs to stop being about them. THey're more trouble than they're worth. Heyman isn't going to solve things and it's more amelioration by TNA rather than an actual solution.

Agreed this is it for me. Pointing out your ignorance and biases eventually becomes tiresome. Yet another contradiction. Hogan does not need to go but you just said he did two sentences earlier? In fact two more sentences later you claim he is more trouble than he is worth again, implying he should go.

The product in your delusion is entirely devoted to old people in the main event. You say they need both stop this trend and push the young guys, yet they are supposed to do this without making big changes. How is that even possible in your mind? I am beginning to think you are inventing situations where no matter what TNA does you can criticize them. At least have the decency to pick a side and give them a chance to meet it. You act like you know what Heyman would have to do. That is another ridiculously strong statement about something you have little true knowledge about. Give commenting about tna a rest if you are not going to be reasonable about it.

 

[klunderbunker]

So you admit the IWC fans are the ones that voted in the poll.

Did I ever say they didn't? Yes, the fans on the INTERNET voted in an INTERNET poll. I bet you feel like a big boy for figuring that out all by yourself.

You admit they are not the majority of "the fans." Yet continue to claim "the fans" asked for it. Something does not add up here.

Similar to your IQ not reaching a total of 1. The fans on the internet were the majority of the votes, likely because they were on the internet. Where the votes came from meant nothing at all. The votes were cast according to the rules TNA laid out. If D-Von had won in that same system, then TNA would have been stuck with him. Instead they just pushed Abyss anyway, making it seem like nothing at all changed.

here is also the part where when they introduced they specifically said it was merely a part of what determines the rankings

Yeah....the thing that they said AFTER Wolfe won the first poll. Wolfe won the first, I think Morgan won the second, and then they introduced the rankings with the fan vote being part of it. Sting was the first #1.

When did they stop pushing him a month into the company?

Well my guess would be a month after he came to the company.

Are you telling me the WWE has never stalled someones trip to the top that was new to the company. Or even had them lose a lot of matches? To suggest TNA is the only one guilty of something like this is crazy.

I know. Why would someone intelligent suggest that? I certainly didn't. I believe it was your idea that they were afraid he would jump so they didn't use him much.

Yeah all Jay lethal has done is assault flair. Show your ignorance of the product some more why don't you. Is being on tv pushed to you?

Being on TV when a large amount of the company doesn't get on weekly would indeed imply an investment in the character by the company yes.

do not know how the ECW guys could presently be getting a push. Sometime soon? Yes, likely. Right now? Not by my definition.

Yeah you're right. Just being on TV every week, being focused on every week, being talked about every week, having entire matches shifted to them and having their ranks growing means absolutely nothing. What was I thinking? They're jsut fans like anyone else. Not getting any special treatment at all.

So now you speak for "many" of a product you obviously have quite a bias against at the moment? If you haven't been doing steroids I am curious how your head got that big.

Sure I'm biased. I'm biased against a company that has shot themselves in the foot so many times there isn't much flesh left there. With everyone they've brought in over the last 8 months, their ratings have gone from about a 1.2 to a 1.0 rounded up. Yeah, they're great though. I'm told they're an alternative to WWE and yet they're the same thing just not as well put together. Yes I'm biased.

Yep, getting rid of someone on Hogan's level of fame will surely magically cure all the problems.

Less money spent, less backstage politics, less Abyss, less of a feeling like it's a company of old guys. I agree. A lot of their problems would be gone if he had never been there.

Heyman would be another Hogan in the end. he would be just another quick fix to the real problems the company has. Rather than building a product based on new people or relatively new concepts, let's just go get someone else that used to be something close to successful. Sure why not. This worked so well with Hogan so let's switch it up to Heyman who was such a genius before.

 

[JackBurton]

The product in your delusion is entirely devoted to old people in the main event. You say they need both stop this trend and push the young guys, yet they are supposed to do this without making big changes. How is that even possible in your mind? I am beginning to think you are inventing situations where no matter what TNA does you can criticize them. At least have the decency to pick a side and give them a chance to meet it. You act like you know what Heyman would have to do. That is another ridiculously strong statement about something you have little true knowledge about. Give commenting about tna a rest if you are not going to be reasonable about it.

Classic example of what I have come to realise about the modern "fan" (these days the defenition of a fan is; Someone who watches shoot interviews on youtube and thinks they know it all)

There are plenty of "whats wrong with wrestling today" or "the problem with TNA/WWE" threads. I'd say the fans are half the problem - wheres there thread?

I propose that the fans this applies to take a massive look in the mirror. You need it.

 

[Weems2k]

As soon as I saw that the article was written by Mark "Fat" Madden, I didn't even bother reading it. Whether Heyman comes in to TNA or not doesn't really matter to me at this point. I think he's a little overrated personally anyways. Dixie's problem is that she acts too much like a "smark" wrestling fan that thinks they know everything, instead of a president. If TNA wants to change forever, maybe they should go outside the box of bookers, and find a couple indy guys looking for a break.

 

[snoopy]

I find it real funny that a woman like Dixie gets labled a moron,With a college education and the smarts to speak two diffrent languages.It just doesn't add up,People seem to forget that ''TNA'' was going out of business until Dixie came along,She got them a national .TV. deal that without her, they obviously wouldn't have gotten.Despite what people might think of her knowledge for the business, she's smart for recognizing that she didn't know enough about the business so she hired Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff that right takes alot of smarts.Now for the people who want her to quit, Don't ask her to be a quitter just because you're one.She could have quit a long time a go but she's a trooper and is willing to take criticism and name calling from fans and critics that are obviously not as ''Smart'' as she is.''NOW THAT'S SMART''!

 

[LitasRevenge79]

Everyone is going to have setbacks. I'm not always the biggest fan of Dixie. Do I agree with what she does, no. Does she end up getting the job done? Yes. Even in a company like WWE, you will see the same type of politics being done as well. People saying Mr. A/Ms. B doesn't know this from that and that idea was terrible and the company will go down the tubes if you bring this or that person along. That being said, if TNA is such "TERRIBLE" place, wouldn't they be off the air already if Dixie was such a terrible person to have leading the way? She obviously does know her stuff despite my constant making fun of her decisions. I really don't see her going away anytime soon. So of course there probably will be some grumblings from people (possibly men) in positions below her who may have been used to being the ones in charge and calling the shots around the scene. But Spike TV must like what's happening since they are still on the air and wanting to add more to programming. Do I see it being bigger than WWE? No. Is that such a bad thing? No. There's been a long history of programs with their own cult following reaping benefits, and no doubt that the benefits of keeping it local will help increase productivity by keeping it in Orlando (more jobs for local persons), cut back on travel for those who live in the area, increased tourism. I'm sure there are many things that can be said that maybe help Dixie be a hero in Florida's eyes possibly.

 

[psykohurricane]

Here a opinions on Dixie carter failures over the years and why they happens. Personally i don'T think Dixie is a moron because she isn't, she a smart woman but having said that she doesn'T have the mental toughness to be a wrestling promoter. She want to run TNA as a family and it all right and good, if you want to be like Ring of Honor not if you want to be a big league like WWE.

But if you take that fact away, the other problem is that she always speelling the beans too soon. Just take last month announcement for exemple, the rumors were that she was suppose to announce that they signs Paul Heyman but they weren't able to sign him so they got stuck with Tommy Dreamer instead. No offence to Dreamer but it's not as big of a surprise as Heyman controlling the company.

The other problem is that she thinks they are moving in the right direction and are growing, when in fact they're still in the same place they were 5 years ago. The only difference between what they did five years ago and today is the ring and the roster. Outside of that it the same thing. I would even tend to say that they are going backward because last year they had 3 ppv outside the impact zone, the years before they had 4, this years only 2 and one is near the impact zone.

Dixie isn'T a wrestling promoter, she a wrestling trying to find somebody to teach her how to run a wrestling company and sometimes she might fell and sometime she might suceed but she need to learn that everytime a bad decision is made or a announcement fell flat that she going to be criticise for it because she is The TNA President and at the end of the day if TNA goes out of business, it'S going to be her fault.

 

[AnthonyM4]

I understand that Tommy Dreamer has been put on the creative team? If that's the case then that's the second best thing. He has a good mind for the business. Heyman really doesn't need wrestling and even less the headaches that would entail working with Bischoff and Russo. They killed wcw now they are killing the second version!