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I don't know, maybe. I'll probably end up waiting until the cheap night at the local theater (5 bucks on Weds). Looks hilarious though, Michael Cera + Harold Ramis + David Cross = Fuck to the Yes. I could care less about Black though, I've only really liked him in maybe one or two movies (High Fidelity and...that's about it. The Jackal.)

I might go to the matinee on teusday (I think its like 5.50). only out of nothing-to-do-ness. Its not really a movie im in a huge rush to go check out, but meh. Its the kind I would definately take a date to, but wouldnt go out of my own way to go see.

I shall see if I can rally my roomate.






probably not.
 
Here we go. You can probably easily dispute my opinions here(they are largely based on opinion), but it's a bit of a meh for Taxi Driver and The Rules of Attraction.

...Especially for Taxi Driver.

More later...
 
Taxi Driver was okay, but the ending kind of blew it for me. It was like having sex with a girl that can't cum...which leads me into The Rules of Attraction.

Now, for both of these movies my dislike comes from the story, not the way it was put together(which was pretty awesome for both). In TRoA I got connected with Sean's character and it was one of the movies where the fact that shitty stuff happens actually turned me off a bit.

That usually doesn't happen.
 
Taxi Driver was okay, but the ending kind of blew it for me. It was like having sex with a girl that can't cum...which leads me into The Rules of Attraction.

Now, for both of these movies my dislike comes from the story, not the way it was put together(which was pretty awesome for both). In TRoA I got connected with Sean's character and it was one of the movies where the fact that shitty stuff happens actually turned me off a bit.

That usually doesn't happen.

1. i thought you were a virgin?

2. you shouldnt EVER let that bother you. thats her problem, not yours.
 
The point of the Rules of Attraction is that you really aren't supposed to like any of the characters. Same with the book, it's s character study of a generation of wealthy kids using their parents money to buy drugs that arose in the 80s (though they update the movie to a more modern setting then the book).

Really when it comes to both movies though Murf, the story is completely secondary to the message and the mise-en-scene. Both are masterpieces in my book.

Plus, Rules of Attraction has a fantastic soundtrack to boot.
 
Maybe I was just in a bad movie mood today. I get that these movies are about more than the story, but I couldn't really get into them.
 
X, how did you take Sean and Paul's relationship in the book? Clearly in the film Sean and Paul have no sexual relationship of any kind, but it's not so clear in the book. Bret obviously wanted us to come to the conclusion on our own (which is one of the many reasons why he's so awesome), and I was just wondering what you thought of it? Was Paul delusional, or did he and Sean really do everything he said?

Also, while I love the film to death.... there are a couple of things that bother the living hell out of me. First, Roger taking out the Cafeteria scenes and Sean's conversation with Patrick. It really pisses me off he didn't include those on the DVD extras. And since the film didn't garner a cult following like everyone hoped (at least thus far), there will probably never be a special edition DVD for it, so we'll never see those scenes, or Glitterati for that matter. As awesome as Roger Avary is, that shit really pisses me off.

But the second thing that bothers me is that he didn't fit Sean's flashback "Hippie Girl" scene into the script. That was my favorite chapter in the whole book, and I thought Roger should've found a way to get it in the movie, as there were plenty of moments for Sean to reminisce about it. I've seen a lot of fans bitch about Roger making Lauren a virgin and cutting out the Abortion stuff, but that didn't bother me as much as him leaving out the Hippie chapter. I really, really, REALLY wish he would've put that in the film.
 
X, how did you take Sean and Paul's relationship in the book? Clearly in the film Sean and Paul have no sexual relationship of any kind, but it's not so clear in the book. Bret obviously wanted us to come to the conclusion on our own (which is one of the many reasons why he's so awesome), and I was just wondering what you thought of it? Was Paul delusional, or did he and Sean really do everything he said?

I've always liked to think that they did infact have the relationship that Paul thought they did, and that Sean was just such a self-loathing and unreachable person that he'd never admit the relationship to anyone else.

Also, while I love the film to death.... there are a couple of things that bother the living hell out of me. First, Roger taking out the Cafeteria scenes and Sean's conversation with Patrick. It really pisses me off he didn't include those on the DVD extras. And since the film didn't garner a cult following like everyone hoped (at least thus far), there will probably never be a special edition DVD for it, so we'll never see those scenes, or Glitterati for that matter. As awesome as Roger Avary is, that shit really pisses me off.

Yeah I mean I absolutely adore the film, but it does have some flaws. Not many, but a few. I agree completely that he should have included those scenes, especially the conversation with Patrick. It wouldn't have taken that long and it would have been a real treat for BEE fans, but I'm guessing Avary didn't include it because most of the audience probably wouldn't have understood who the hell Sean was talking to, because the studio was definately trying to market the film as another teenager sex-romp like American Pie.

Avary is great though, aside from the countless great films he's helped write, he's also a very creative director as well. I just wish he'd do some more directing work, am I crazy or weren't there rumors going around that Avary was going to adapt another BEE book to film? I can't remember which one.

But the second thing that bothers me is that he didn't fit Sean's flashback "Hippie Girl" scene into the script. That was my favorite chapter in the whole book, and I thought Roger should've found a way to get it in the movie, as there were plenty of moments for Sean to reminisce about it. I've seen a lot of fans bitch about Roger making Lauren a virgin and cutting out the Abortion stuff, but that didn't bother me as much as him leaving out the Hippie chapter. I really, really, REALLY wish he would've put that in the film.

That's one of my favorite parts of the book as well, but there was just no way Avary was going to be able to include everything in the book. I can tell you when I saw it that I was extremely pleased though that he included the overdose scene, as that was always one of my favorite vignette's of the book, and he filmed it pitch-perfectly in the movie.
 
I've always liked to think that they did infact have the relationship that Paul thought they did, and that Sean was just such a self-loathing and unreachable person that he'd never admit the relationship to anyone else.

What hurts Paul's case, in my opinion, was when he says shit like, "We made love in the snow and then we would cuddle while Sean would tell me how much he loves me." That's not a direct quote, but it goes a lot like that and that's nothing I could ever picture Sean doing. If it weren't for Paul overdoing it at times like that, then I would think him and Sean did indeed have something going on.

Yeah I mean I absolutely adore the film, but it does have some flaws. Not many, but a few. I agree completely that he should have included those scenes, especially the conversation with Patrick. It wouldn't have taken that long and it would have been a real treat for BEE fans, but I'm guessing Avary didn't include it because most of the audience probably wouldn't have understood who the hell Sean was talking to, because the studio was definately trying to market the film as another teenager sex-romp like American Pie.

I don't mind so much that he didn't include it in the film (honestly, I don't want to see anyone ‘officially’ portraying Patrick Bateman unless it's Christian Bale, who was contacted for doing the role, but turned it down and I imagine had he took it, there's no way Avary would've left it out of the film); it's the fact that it's not an extra on the DVD. They get fucking Carrot Top to do commentary, but don't give us the deleted scenes? That bothers me. I just know those Cafeteria scenes are fantastic, because those have some of the best dialogue in the book.

Avary is great though, aside from the countless great films he's helped write, he's also a very creative director as well. I just wish he'd do some more directing work, am I crazy or weren't there rumors going around that Avary was going to adapt another BEE book to film? I can't remember which one.

He bought the rights to Glamorama, while in France shooting Victor's vacation there for The Rules of Attraction. From that point on, he tried his damnedest to get it made, but he couldn't find anyone to invest because of shit like 9/11 (there's a bunch of terrorist acts in the book, as I'm sure you know) and people not believing Kip Pardue being a big enough star to carry a film. And now with his Avary’s Manslaughter charge, it seems as though it’s never going to happen, unless his next movie (Return to Castle Wolfenstein, an adaptation of the video game) makes an unbelievable amount of money, which it most likely won’t.

I'm really disappointed it's not going to happen. That's my favorite book from BEE and I just know Avary's film adaptation would've been spectacular. Shit in my head it would have the chance of being the greatest film ever made. I completely believe 100% that Kip Pardue is the perfect person for the job to play Victor and I don't want to see anyone else with that role. And I just know there's absolutely NO ONE who can make this movie other than Roger Avary. Maybe David Lynch, but Lynch seems best suited to direct material he writes, not adaptations. I just know if the day comes when Roger sells the rights to the movie, it's going to get done with some shit writer/director, and star someone like Ashton Kutcher or some ****** from the Twilight vampire crap. I'll cry if that day comes.

What'd you think of Glamorama, X?

And also, it was announced about a month ago that Lunar Park is being made into a film. No word yet as to who is directing, but as of right now, Benicio del Toro will be playing Bret. Benicio del Toro is a great actor, but that's a big miscast in my opinion.

That's one of my favorite parts of the book as well, but there was just no way Avary was going to be able to include everything in the book.

I know, I know. It's just James Van Deer Beek did such a tremendous job as Sean Bateman, I really would've like to see him do that scene. Fuck it would've been great. I'd probably cast Natalie Portman to play the hippie. :)

I can tell you when I saw it that I was extremely pleased though that he included the overdose scene, as that was always one of my favorite vignette's of the book, and he filmed it pitch-perfectly in the movie.

Yes, definitely. That scene, and also the unbelievable suicide scene, were the two scenes that really gave justice the book.
 
I loved Glamorama JMT, but I love everything BEE does. I've always thought Less Than Zero was his best work though, IMO.

Right now I'm watching Clockers. Without a doubt Spike Lee's most underrated movie, one of my favorites from him. Plus it has Keith David, who is the motherfucking shit.
 
Right now I'm watching Clockers. Without a doubt Spike Lee's most underrated movie, one of my favorites from him. Plus it has Keith David, who is the motherfucking shit.

I love Clockers. That along with Do the Right Thing, Malcom X, 25 Hour, and Summer of Sam are my favorite joints from Spike Lee.

And Keith David fucking owns. Dead Presidents was the shit, and They Live = Best Sci-Fi Comedy EVER. I can quote that movie all day long, and the fight scene between Keith David and Roddy Piper is fucking priceless.
 
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Just got done watching Steven Soderbergh's "The Limey". Can't believe it took me so long to get around to seeing it. I was totally blown away, probably his best film in my opinion. It's both haunting and beautiful at the same time, Soderbergh is such a genius in the way he utilized old footage from Terrence Stamp's 60s films and the way he told the story in fractured and nonlinear bits and pieces. The ending was wonderful as well and I was so happy Soderbergh didn't take the conventional way out.

Any opinons on The Limey? I'm sure JMT has probably seen it. I'm tempted to go out on a limb and give it a full five stars, but I'll have to give it another viewing before handing it the perfect rating, for now it's a 4.5/5 and one of the best films I've seen in a while. Fonda and Stamp are brilliant in it. I'm in a Soderbergh mood so I'm going to throw on his great remake of Solaris now.

We have GOT to get this thread stickied man.
 
My mom has worked at LSU since she was eighteen, and Steven Soderbergh actually took a class in the office where she worked, so she conversed with him on a couple of occasions. I always thought that was pretty cool.

The Limey was fucking fantastic. One of the most underrated films ever, in my opinion. It should rank right up there with all the other great neo-noir crime films out there, but it never gets mentioned in the same sentence and that's a true shame.

However, I'm not sure if I'd say it's Soderbergh's best work. I mean, this is the same guy that did Traffic, X.

And speaking of Steven Soderbergh, I cannot wait to see The Girlfriend Experience. That's going to be awesome. I'm not a big fan of porn, but Sasha Grey is gorgeous and I thought it was such a brave, daring move for Soderbergh to cast her in the lead of a real, serious film. Cannot fucking wait to see it.
 
Just got done watching Steven Soderbergh's "The Limey". Can't believe it took me so long to get around to seeing it. I was totally blown away, probably his best film in my opinion. It's both haunting and beautiful at the same time, Soderbergh is such a genius in the way he utilized old footage from Terrence Stamp's 60s films and the way he told the story in fractured and nonlinear bits and pieces. The ending was wonderful as well and I was so happy Soderbergh didn't take the conventional way out.

Any opinons on The Limey? I'm sure JMT has probably seen it. I'm tempted to go out on a limb and give it a full five stars, but I'll have to give it another viewing before handing it the perfect rating, for now it's a 4.5/5 and one of the best films I've seen in a while. Fonda and Stamp are brilliant in it. I'm in a Soderbergh mood so I'm going to throw on his great remake of Solaris now.

We have GOT to get this thread stickied man.

you had better wanna make babies with me after all of this
 
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