Bring Stables Back

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I was just thinking with the presence of the New Nexus and the CORRE on Raw and Smackdown respectively of the value that good well planned stables bring to the WWE. Im not a fan of either group but remembering the glory days when you had the Ministry of Darkness, DX, the Corporation and within them smaller factions like the Brood at war. With all the exciting allegiance changes, betrayals and matches descending into gangfights which this scenario created it makes me think that they definently add an extra dimension to the show. They are also great for promoting new young talent by mixing them with older more established stars and giving them the opportunity to partcipate in massive interesting storylines ie Orton and Batista in Evolution. I was just wondering if anyone else thinks WWE would be more interesting with a heavier emphasis on stables who knows it could even help reignite the tag division.
 
And the great factions of DOA, Los Boricuas, etc.

Problem is people complain about any faction that it's a "nwo" rip off.

I also don't want stables over running the show. 2 is enough right now. If you want to reignite the tag division, just put two guys together and put them in tag matches, make them credible, and push them.
 
The thing with this is there are too many stars that people want to see put over. Creating a faction would put them on the backburner. The leader of each stable will have to be somebody big enough to make the stable matter. And then the lackeys look week. However with the Corre, they are all "equals". Bullshit.

I think they are fine with the whole "one stable at a time" thing they've been working on. There's always been something. Corre, Nexus, New Nexus, Straight Edge Society, Edgeheads, Evolution, The Cabinet, etc.

I think it looks better with one stable on each show and having them destroyed either with-in (Evolution), or have one man take them all out (New Nexus and Randy Orton)
 
I agree 100% I love stables in wrestling and they have always made it great. Whether it be the Stud Stable, Horseman, Lod, NWO, NOD, Corp./Ministry, Brood, DX, etc stables always make things better. Look at Fortune in TNA they are the only thing worth watching down there right now in my opinion. As far as stars getting lost I actually think it helps some guys stay relevant.

Imagine if you will The Miz and John Morrison stayed friends and formed a stable with Alex Reilly and Jack Swagger. All these men have connections Miz/Morrison former tag team, Reilly is Mizs student on NXT, and Swagger has an amateur background that they could use to link him to Reilly. You keep Swagger and Reilly a good spot, Morrison can continue to grow as Mizs sidekick instead of getting bashed for not being in the main event, and it helps Mizs credibility to have a group to help him keep the belt.

I think the only reason WWE is against stables though is because if they get to over they gain to much power. Just look at the NWO, these guys did whatever they wanted because they were the top stars and they were banded together. Same goes for the Clique even though they were never on tv together.
 
They actually need to bring managers back for Stables to work. Remember the days Of the Hennan Family, Jimmy Hart was known as the Colonel, the Dr. of Style Slick....That's what is missing for stables to work...The manager was the main mouth piece and there was a main event guy, a mid guy, and a tag team. Hennan had Andre, he had King Harley Race, Haku, Rick Rude. Hart had the Honkey Tonk Man (when the IC title meant something) the Hart Foundation, Greg the Hammer. There are just to many agendas with stables main guy being a leader. It's just dumb.

Michael Cole should start a Stable leading Jack Swagger as a Main event guy, Alex Riley could be his mid card guy, and who knows for the Tag Titles. Maybe the Uso's. Then get a second mouth piece. Vicki gets a ton of heat. Use her. THere are too many talented guys that can't speak that this can be used for.
 
I would love for WWE to compose a stable with Vickie Guerrero as the Manager ala Hennan Family. They can even call it La Familia and they can add guys like Ryder,Beretta , McIntyre, Clay and Dashing Cody. She has the potential of being a great stable manager like Hennan, Hart, Albano & Blassie.
 
Yeh I can see your point about not wanting stables to overrun the show although i perosnally think two great factions going at it wuld be really entertaining. But even if they had one truly well put together stable mixing veterans with younger up and coming superstars on one of the shows. I mean i dont think we have had a truly great stabke since Evolution the Miz, Morrison, Swagger, Reilly stable would be a good idea i thnk and a good heel turn at the head of a dominant stable could be exactly what Morrison needs to make that main event push. I'd also maybe put a heel turn R-Truth in there for the muscle and a diva to manage them but my point is the storylines and animosity such powerful stables can create cab ve really effective. They also create greta opportunity to push faceswith the whole odds massively stacked against them stroylines I mean SCSA was arguably at his most effective as the lone renegade figure fighting the corporation and Ministry
 
I don't think i have seen a great stable in the WWE since Evolution. Ever since the stables have all had the same concept and plan. They come in, dominate for a period of time, finally get stopped or split, and then the guys become jobbers or mid carders. Evolution was long lasting and every member had a story line. HHH had the world title, Orton had his feuds and the IC title, and Flair and Batista did their own thing to. All the members of Evolution came out looking strong and all held belts after the split. These days with stables like Corre and Nexus are just dominate forces that only benefit one guy.
 
I would love for WWE to compose a stable with Vickie Guerrero as the Manager ala Hennan Family. They can even call it La Familia and they can add guys like Ryder,Beretta , McIntyre, Clay and Dashing Cody. She has the potential of being a great stable manager like Hennan, Hart, Albano & Blassie.

I would agree with this, however there is one other person who would fit the mode and thats Michael Cole. If you think about it, he already has his 'family' in place and can be developed from existing storylines. His friendship with The Miz, Riley being under his wing rather than The Miz and Swagger as the sort of enforcer. WWE is sitting on a gold mine with this:

The Voice of the WWE
The Must See WWE Champion
The Best upcoming talent (stretching that very far with Riley)
The Best pure athlete in the WWE

You can add to that with the likes of Kong and two of the NxT rejects forming a tag team. Throw in DiBiase, a way to change his fortune.

Hell even the feuds are in place and ready made:

R-Truth
Natalya/Eve
Danielson
Whoever is WWE/World Champion for the Miz to go after
You could have a Swagger wrestling challenge, which would eventually lead to a pure athlete feuding with Swagger (if only they could get Benjamin back...)

Once more it works better because Cole is on both shows, meaning his 'family' could split into two and helping each other on the odd occasions so it doesn't have to be a one brand angle.
 
I guess I'm a traditionalist - I tend to like the idea of just having 1 dominate stable - a la original nWo or 4 horsemen. Just a group of guys kicking ass and no one can stop them. Give them all the gold and let them keep it for months, if not a year or longer. They can kick ass individually, but they prefer to do it as a unit. They pick on fans, etc. Do everything they can do to be hated. Then you build guys up by having them feud with the stable one by one until finally one of them beats the leader and wins the whc.

I remember WCW doing this in the early 90's with Rick Steiner against Lex Luger, and it really built Steiner up in my mind a singles wrestler. He never beat him for the gold, but game him a good run for him money several times.

I just feel like when all the factions were in WCW and WWE, it just watered down the product.
 
I would agree with this, however there is one other person who would fit the mode and thats Michael Cole. If you think about it, he already has his 'family' in place and can be developed from existing storylines. His friendship with The Miz, Riley being under his wing rather than The Miz and Swagger as the sort of enforcer. WWE is sitting on a gold mine with this:

The Voice of the WWE
The Must See WWE Champion
The Best upcoming talent (stretching that very far with Riley)
The Best pure athlete in the WWE

You can add to that with the likes of Kong and two of the NxT rejects forming a tag team. Throw in DiBiase, a way to change his fortune.

Hell even the feuds are in place and ready made:

R-Truth
Natalya/Eve
Danielson
Whoever is WWE/World Champion for the Miz to go after
You could have a Swagger wrestling challenge, which would eventually lead to a pure athlete feuding with Swagger (if only they could get Benjamin back...)

Once more it works better because Cole is on both shows, meaning his 'family' could split into two and helping each other on the odd occasions so it doesn't have to be a one brand angle.

I see your point, but Vickie draws massive heat and it looks like neither brand wants her, I can see her making a stable mafia style with guys that are being held back and since neither brand wants her she will find some type of lope hole to work both brands as a manager. She has this female weasel thing to her and she is a good mouth piece for wrestlers that don't have great mic skills. But then again I always wanted WWE to bring back managers and I can see Cole as a Jimmy Hart type Manager with a little slick in him.
 
I can understand 5 years ago someone saying bring stables back. But the last couple of years has had quite a few stables.

Also one of the main reasons for having stables in the late 90s was that there was a huge amount of talent and not a lot of TV time. In order to feature everyone they would group people together. These days there's much less talent and more tv.

TNA has an abundance of talent and less TV which is why they have to use stables. But as TNA have demonstrated, stables aren't automatically a good thing, you still need good booking.
 
I can understand 5 years ago someone saying bring stables back. But the last couple of years has had quite a few stables.

Also one of the main reasons for having stables in the late 90s was that there was a huge amount of talent and not a lot of TV time. In order to feature everyone they would group people together. These days there's much less talent and more tv.

TNA has an abundance of talent and less TV which is why they have to use stables. But as TNA have demonstrated, stables aren't automatically a good thing, you still need good booking.

Yeh true there has been a lot of stables recently but none really incorporating top level experienced superstars alongside younger future talent the last i can think that really did this was Evolution. Also I realise for stables to be succesful they have to be booked well but thats what i mean well planned booked out stables contribute to some awesome stroylines i mean power struggles between top level superstars flanked by new talent enabling more of the younger stars to get pushed and makes for good tv in my opinion. I suppose its just down to personal taste like everyting though
 
Yeh true there has been a lot of stables recently but none really incorporating top level experienced superstars alongside younger future talent the last i can think that really did this was Evolution.

You realize that La Familia had Edge, Vickie, Chavo, Hawkins, Ryder, and Bam Neely, right? The only two experienced superstars (one being top-level) was Edge. That faction ended not even 2 years ago (summer 2009).

The WWE has constantly kept at least ONE stable around, whether you realize it or not.
 
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No, I don't think the WWE should focus on stables to create tag teams from them, they should just start focusing on the actual tag teams themselves. If Nexus never happened, WWE could have easily have brought in Slater and Gabriel and teamed them up eventually, perhaps not so fast after Barrett won because that would have made Barrett winning pointless at the time.

One of the main things about factions/stables is whenever stables are created, they are always compared to NWO pretty much and I think if WWE wants to solidify some wrestlers, they should just put them into seperate tag teams and have them feud with each other. If they keep making stables where people can compare them to NWO, then they should just let it go for a while.

I think after Nexus and Corre are done, then they should not worry about anymore stables for another couple of years. Stables, in this time in wrestling is just over done.
 
WWE has definitely missed having a proper stable since Evolution. I thought the Nexus was gonna have that similar effect when CM Punk joined, but they've just got it all wrong for me. They don't look dominating, and apart from Punk, the other members seem interchangeable. I love the idea of Michael Cole heading a faction including The Miz, Riley, Swagger and another more established wrestler (Ziggler maybe?). 3 potential champions in there, would be a sweet dominant force.
 
I agree with some of the other poster we need managers like Heenan and Jimmy Hart, to help fix the tag-teams and make them more relevant.

Cole would be a great manager. Vickie would be ok too, but how about Big Sexy Kevin Nash, good on the mic and he doesn't necessarily need to wrestle he can also help the younger stars learn how to use the mic and put on a decent show.
 
I'm gonna make this short and not so sweet. If WWE doesn't care about the tag team division, why in god's name would they care about stables? I'm surprised these groups are still semi-relevant. But with that said, Mason Ryan will break up Nexus at Mania, and the Corre will fall shortly after. Calling it now.
 
I'm gonna make this short and not so sweet. If WWE doesn't care about the tag team division, why in god's name would they care about stables? I'm surprised these groups are still semi-relevant. But with that said, Mason Ryan will break up Nexus at Mania, and the Corre will fall shortly after. Calling it now.

I disagree because stables have become a way to get cheap heat in the WWE. The crowd will hate you because you beat up their favorite wrestler, happens all the time. Stables aren't made these days to develop talent imo at least not in WWE, they just want to get heat that's it. A tag team requires good booking and effort something the WWE doesn't do these days. I think they are building Ryan to be a heel at least that's the way it looks, so why would he break up Nexus at Mania.
 
Colonel, I do agree it definitely is a way to get cheap heat. It always has been and always will. I mean if you look at the era after the Corporation and DX and whatever else, there have been stables. However, it's only been one at a time. I nearly came to the point of not watching Raw anymore this year for the simple fact that I was tired of seeing the same thing done night in and night out. John Cena promo, John Cena beat down, lights out. Seems pretty redundant if you ask me. And as usual it was just creative team not being to pick where to go next, but that's an argument for another time.

Would be interesting if they were able to bring two or three stables with big names and see them feud and run the business? Absolutely. I loved DX. I loved NWO. And honestly, who didn't enjoy J.O.B. Squad? With that being said, I think right now the New Nexus and Corre have ruined any chance of it happening right now.
 

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