Bret Hart still has it. Hear me out

[HatchetMan84]

Maybe i'm too much of a mark, but I was AMAZED last night, at how Bret looked and moved in the ring.

Now i know it was only for a few minutes, and it was hardly a 5 star match, but compared to WM26, it was completely 180 degree turn from what we saw before. My only question is WHY didnt he do the same thing with Vince? Last night Bret in his short time in the ring told a story that he could still do damage and be effective. The moves looked clean, and crisp, and the crowd ate it up.

I think now that Bret and the WWE has settled his insurance problem with Lloyds of London, Bret now has the "Freedom" to do what he feels comfortable with in the ring. This is exactly what Eric Bischoff said before WM26, that Bret was planning a more normal match, but at the last minute Lloyds of London affected the match, leading to it almost being cancelled.

I think the day has finally come where Bret may have a normal match, based on what i saw last night. Now he may be careful with his head, which is completley understandable, but based on what i saw last night, he could still have a great 10 minute match in a hulk hogan style match, if thats what he wanted.

I say give Bret some kind of updated ring attire (he is bordering on looking like a slob), put him in a program with somebody he trusts in the ring, and let him have his "retirement" match that he's always wanted. (The retirement of Bret Hart as a singles wrestler). After that he can stick around like the other legends, do run ins and work a match here or there like the other legends do.

 

[Max Headroom]

I agree, when I seen him come out in his jeans and crap I was like "yeah he aint even getting in the ring tonight." But he done quite the good job when he got in there, and done some good moves. MUCH better than what I expected from him, the fact they sent him out on DQ was a good way to do it too.

Now, as you do say your too much of a mark, thats probably why you would like to see him in a normal good retirement match. That WOULD be good and all, but from what I hear, he has a really bad head, and has suffered strokes. So he can put on a good match, just can't take a bump on his head. Meaning if they did want to give him a sendoff, he would have to do what he done at summerslam and lose by DQ, just leave a lasting impression.

But personally, I think this was his last match, he looked really good in there, so I think he should leave it at that.

 

[greg_74]

I would have laughed at this title before last night because of what I saw at WM26 but I've got to say I was impressed with him in the ring last night. He actually used some moves other than just punching guys and although it's not the Bret that was even close to his prime he made it believable that he could have a match. I agree that he does need some different ring attire though. Cena in jean shorts is even we don't need Bret out there like that too.

 

[HatchetMan84]

I know the situation with Bret's head. But what we saw last night also backed up the reports from around january february that somebody saw Bret training in the ring, actually WRESTLING, and looking fine except for protecting his head.

Other than a brainbuster, i dont know of any move where you must land on the top of your head. A pile driver is banned, nobody would power bomb him, so every other move he could take on his shoulders, a la Ric Flair.

I think the biggest limiting factor was Bret's insurance. Now that that's out of the way, based on what we saw last night, Bret is NOT done, and may factor in some matches down the road. This storyline with Nexxus could go on to survivor series for all we know.

Bottom line, is Bret is coming around....I feel that he may have more matches left in him. He could do it if he wanted to, be like other legends and wrestle only a few times a year.

 

[Max Headroom]

I know the situation with Bret's head. But what we saw last night also backed up the reports from around january february that somebody saw Bret training in the ring, actually WRESTLING, and looking fine except for protecting his head.

Other than a brainbuster, i dont know of any move where you must land on the top of your head. A pile driver is banned, nobody would power bomb him, so every other move he could take on his shoulders, a la Ric Flair.

I think the biggest limiting factor was Bret's insurance. Now that that's out of the way, based on what we saw last night, Bret is NOT done, and may factor in some matches down the road. This storyline with Nexxus could go on to survivor series for all we know.

Bottom line, is Bret is coming around....I feel that he may have more matches left in him. He could do it if he wanted to, be like other legends and wrestle only a few times a year.

I know what your sayin' budd. But it don't have to be a brainbuster/piledriver type move. He IS oldish, and suffered many strokes apparently, so any bumb would be bad, except moves that lands him on his stomache. I'm sure he would be a bit worried to take a move that lands him on the back of his head, possibly giving him whiplash. I'm no doctor, but if I had as many strokes as he supposedly had, hell if I even had one, I would be a bit worried. Not to mention the age factor, which isn't a big deal but that + the strokes aint good for someone who wants to wrestle.

I say let that be Bret's last actual match, or big one at least. He went out lookin' real good, and that's what I think how he would want it.

 

[KevyKev469]

Last night Bret did a great job and the way they had him eliminated was perfect. But it did look like he was taking his time with some of the moves in order to make sure he was protected. I think Bret still has a few more matches in him and possibly if the Nexus angle continues (which it will) we will see Bret on a team at Survivor Series.

 

[TheFatManFromYoutube]

In my opinion he looked great. He hasnt wrestled(other then vince at mania but that wasnt really wrestling) in about 10 years. And also he has a lot of health problems. He looked better then half the wrestlers today. Seeing all the health problems he has, his age, and ring rust im very surprised with bret. I thought it was just going to be him to get the sharpshooter on wade barrett for the win his team.

p.s. I wanted him to come out in the pink tights lol.

 

[Stormtrooper]

Look, I love Bret Hart as much as the next guy. And yes, he did very well in his limited involvement in the match. However, there are a bunch of factors to consider.
1. He was involved for less then 2 minutes. He got the tag, and then 2 minutes later was DQed for using the chair. If you include the fracas at the beginning of the match, he was fighting for 2 mintes and 30 seconds.
2. he was totally gassed after said 2 minutes
3. It was a tag match, meaning he didn't have to do a whole lot of stuff, besides standing on the apron.

Again, if this guy gets gassed after only 2 minutes of wrestling, then you can't have him be a key piece to a match.

Bret can still be a useful piece, be it either as a super limited tag partner or as a corner-man who sees limited action. But he can't be a focal point of a match, and he 100% cannot do a singles match.

 

[HatchetMan84]

I saw the cardio problem...we still dont really know to what extent Bret trains. He's gotta be pretty confident after last night, so its possible that if he DOES have another match, he works on his cardio.

I think if he would have looked like that at Mania, people would be way more accepting of him after all that he had been through, instead of bashing him for what truly was a horrible match. But like i said, Lloyds of London is what most likely limited that mania match....

 

[neildittmar]

Bret should absolutely NOT make any type of sustained return to in-ring competition. Moreover, I think his involvement at Wrestlemania 26, not to mention Summerslam, was taking a big, big risk. Quite frankly, neither should have happened. Brets in-ring time should be over... he has so many other gifts he can contribute to the business. Said bluntly, he needs to permanently call it quits in regards to active competition.

Lets put this in proper perspective. Following that vicious kick to the head he took from Goldberg many years ago, he has had quite a number of seizures and at least one stroke. I'm sure none of these were "planned" and he certainly didn't see them coming. A recurrence of either of these is great. The chance of these occuring while he is actively competing is even moreso. The main thing is, Bret, his family, his opponent, or the WWE in general will never see it coming. Harts well-being is a ticking time bomb.

So lets say that Bret is willing to put his very life in jeopardy and compete again on even a part-time basis. We'll put aside what an impactful decision this could potentially be for his family as well, given that the chances of him literally dying in the ring are substantially greater than other in-ring competitors. We'll assume that Lloyds will "look the other way" and let Bret wrestle as many or few matches as he so desires.

How about WWE's relatively newfound PG image? Can you imagine the negative publicity that would occur if Bret Hart had a seizure in the ring? What about if he had a stroke? What if he died in the ring? Pro wrestling (er... sports entertainment) has a bad enough image in popular media as is. With all the recent wrestler deaths tarnishing this even more, a high profile star becoming paralyzed or dying in the ring might be the last nail that seals the casket shut.

Bret Hart may have looked good last night... I don't know as I didn't see the PPV. His moves may have been solid and there may have been a lot of entertainment value in those 2 and half minutes or so that he competed. And sure, nothing bad appeared to have happened last night. Yet everytime Bret climbs into the ring, he does so knowing full well that sometime, somewhere at least one doctor has told him that the right kind of shot could paralyze, completely incapacitate, or possibly kill him.

The last thing any fans of Bret should be wanting for him is a return to the ring, regardless of their love for him or Harts passion for the WWE.

 

[HatchetMan84]

Bret should absolutely NOT make any type of sustained return to in-ring competition. Moreover, I think his involvement at Wrestlemania 26, not to mention Summerslam, was taking a big, big risk. Quite frankly, neither should have happened. Brets in-ring time should be over... he has so many other gifts he can contribute to the business. Said bluntly, he needs to permanently call it quits in regards to active competition.

Lets put this in proper perspective. Following that vicious kick to the head he took from Goldberg many years ago, he has had quite a number of seizures and at least one stroke. I'm sure none of these were "planned" and he certainly didn't see them coming. A recurrence of either of these is great. The chance of these occuring while he is actively competing is even moreso. The main thing is, Bret, his family, his opponent, or the WWE in general will never see it coming. Harts well-being is a ticking time bomb.

So lets say that Bret is willing to put his very life in jeopardy and compete again on even a part-time basis. We'll put aside what an impactful decision this could potentially be for his family as well, given that the chances of him literally dying in the ring are substantially greater than other in-ring competitors. We'll assume that Lloyds will "look the other way" and let Bret wrestle as many or few matches as he so desires.

How about WWE's relatively newfound PG image? Can you imagine the negative publicity that would occur if Bret Hart had a seizure in the ring? What about if he had a stroke? What if he died in the ring? Pro wrestling (er... sports entertainment) has a bad enough image in popular media as is. With all the recent wrestler deaths tarnishing this even more, a high profile star becoming paralyzed or dying in the ring might be the last nail that seals the casket shut.

Bret Hart may have looked good last night... I don't know as I didn't see the PPV. His moves may have been solid and there may have been a lot of entertainment value in those 2 and half minutes or so that he competed. And sure, nothing bad appeared to have happened last night. Yet everytime Bret climbs into the ring, he does so knowing full well that sometime, somewhere at least one doctor has told him that the right kind of shot could paralyze, completely incapacitate, or possibly kill him.

The last thing any fans of Bret should be wanting for him is a return to the ring, regardless of their love for him or Harts passion for the WWE.

I agree with the risk like you have mentioned, but i really think this is over dramatic. I'm pretty sure that if there was a serious risk of him DYING in the ring, then Bret would never agree to do it.

You have to consider that Bret is WILLING to do these things, so the implied risk Bret is well aware of . It's not like the WWE is making him do this. He came to THEM about coming back, and somewhere around then, decided he felt well enough to "wrestle". Bottom line is that Bret is a grown man who should be able to do what ever he wants. Risk or not. He is the only one who can make that call. Not the fans, or the WWE.

 

[KevyKev469]

I agree with the risk like you have mentioned, but i really think this is over dramatic. I'm pretty sure that if there was a serious risk of him DYING in the ring, then Bret would never agree to do it.

You have to consider that Bret is WILLING to do these things, so the implied risk Bret is well aware of . It's not like the WWE is making him do this. He came to THEM about coming back, and somewhere around then, decided he felt well enough to "wrestle". Bottom line is that Bret is a grown man who should be able to do what ever he wants. Risk or not. He is the only one who can make that call. Not the fans, or the WWE.

I think that the WWE can and would make the call on him not wrestling. Even though i agree with you, if the WWE felt that there was a big enough risk of something happening to him they would not let him get in the ring. However, if Bret wants to get in the ring and compete that's fine with me as he knows what he is capable of doing and not doing in there. If he happens to have a stroke or a seizure in the ring it will be unfortunate but those can happen at any time. So no matter if he's in the ring or not he can have one at any time.

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

Shall I tell you why he was much better last night? Because he had more time, at Mania he had like 3 months to prepare, whereas after that, he had like 4 or 5 months extra, everytime he was involved in a brawl, in-ring segment etc, he got physically active everytime and it improved his movements...

However, I think Bret shouldn't get in the ring to wrestle again, and I say this because of his health, you never know what will happen and when it will happen and for that sake he should call his in-ring career quits...I mean its too risky especially for him!

 

[daletango]

I think he was running on adrenalin, his mouth was hanging open gasping for air after 30 seconds. Though it was nice to see but Im not entirely sure why.

 

[WWEIsLife2]

I thought Bret looked great at Summerslam and was able to do more stuff than he did at Wrestlemania. He got on the Ropes,an Atomic Drop,and other stuff. I think he has a few more Matches left and maybe be involved at Survivor Series.

 

[Theo Mays]

I was impressed with Bret's in ring performance at Summerslam last night. He looked much better than he did at WM26 and I was proud as a Hitman mark that he looked believeable and went to town on Heath Slater. The DQ elimination was perfect, as Hart didn't have to take any bumps and such. As for returning to the ring I don't it should go down. I'm not even sure that I want Bret to ever wrestle again. Don't get me wrong I will always be thrilled to see Bret stay around, but wrestling more than a tag team match is a bit much. I'm not sure he can go more than 5 minutes nor do I think he is able to go in a singles match. I love Bret Hart and I think last night was the perfect way to send him out as far as in ring goes.

 

[Carpathian Florist]

It would be nice to see Bret wrestle in a limited capacity more, couldn't WWE always pick up Rikishi for a few dates with the USOs?
I think Survivor Series, Hart Dynasty vs USOs, Tamina and Rikishi would make a nice match, that would limit just how much Bret has to participate too. That could just end with a countout or something for him, maybe double count out battling with Rikishi.
(I'm pretty sure the USO's are Rikishi's kids?? If I'm wrong then just discount all that please)
Problem is overconfidence though, Bret did really well last night all things considered, if he gets too over confident in his abilities he may push it too far and end up getting seriously hurt or worse.
It's a tough call for a fan, seeing more of Bret but risking seeing the end of Bret completely?
Hats off to the guy though, he's incredible even after all he's been through.

 

[triple_b2k]

I love Bret but I hope he hangs up his boots really soon. He shouldn't become another old wrestler who doesn't know when to say when. Of course this is a different situation than Ric Flair or Hogan... It's more like Roddy Piper and Ricky Steamboat where they wrestle but rarely. Regardless, him on WWE tv is a win but I don't want to see him become one of those guys.

 

[lunarseed]

Bret should absolutely NOT make any type of sustained return to in-ring competition. Moreover, I think his involvement at Wrestlemania 26, not to mention Summerslam, was taking a big, big risk. Quite frankly, neither should have happened. Brets in-ring time should be over... he has so many other gifts he can contribute to the business. Said bluntly, he needs to permanently call it quits in regards to active competition.

Lets put this in proper perspective. Following that vicious kick to the head he took from Goldberg many years ago, he has had quite a number of seizures and at least one stroke. I'm sure none of these were "planned" and he certainly didn't see them coming. A recurrence of either of these is great. The chance of these occuring while he is actively competing is even moreso. The main thing is, Bret, his family, his opponent, or the WWE in general will never see it coming. Harts well-being is a ticking time bomb.

So lets say that Bret is willing to put his very life in jeopardy and compete again on even a part-time basis. We'll put aside what an impactful decision this could potentially be for his family as well, given that the chances of him literally dying in the ring are substantially greater than other in-ring competitors. We'll assume that Lloyds will "look the other way" and let Bret wrestle as many or few matches as he so desires.

How about WWE's relatively newfound PG image? Can you imagine the negative publicity that would occur if Bret Hart had a seizure in the ring? What about if he had a stroke? What if he died in the ring? Pro wrestling (er... sports entertainment) has a bad enough image in popular media as is. With all the recent wrestler deaths tarnishing this even more, a high profile star becoming paralyzed or dying in the ring might be the last nail that seals the casket shut.

Bret Hart may have looked good last night... I don't know as I didn't see the PPV. His moves may have been solid and there may have been a lot of entertainment value in those 2 and half minutes or so that he competed. And sure, nothing bad appeared to have happened last night. Yet everytime Bret climbs into the ring, he does so knowing full well that sometime, somewhere at least one doctor has told him that the right kind of shot could paralyze, completely incapacitate, or possibly kill him.

The last thing any fans of Bret should be wanting for him is a return to the ring, regardless of their love for him or Harts passion for the WWE.

^ THIS ^

Also... the people saying "I think he has a few more matches in him" or postulating on who he could face- it's like the most selfish friggin thing I've ever heard from these posters. THE MAN HAS SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUES. Oh, maybe we can bring heenan back on the announce team too. These are probably the same people who were complaining a year ago about the lack of new, young talent in the company.

Listen, Bret Hart needs to stay out of the ring PERIOD. Everything in the above quote should be considered the only answer for this thread, and the end of the conversation.

 

[ForzaItalia]

I must agree that Bret "The Hitman" Hart is back. He showed in this match that he is truly the best there was, the best is, and the there ever will be. Bret was on fire in this match. He did quite simple moves, but they were still enough to get me to go out of my seat and say wow this guy still has it. After watching Bret do what he does best, I really want to see him vs. Y2J now. I mean imagine how great this match would be. Have it at the 900th RAW. The only thing I did not like at SS was that they made Bret look stupid when he hit Slater with the chair and got himself disqualified. But I guess they did not want him to get pinned by a rookie to lose his reputation.

 

[XXbrandonXX]

Bret was absouletly amazing last night. He kept me on the edge of my seat when he wrestled, and for a 50 year old stroke victim, he did excellent. There was actually at one point where he looked like he was going to just collapse, after the scoop slam, he was so out of breath. I could tell he was thinking something. But anyway, after that Bret still has IT.

 

[ultraviolence]

I must admit, I was over joyed to see the Hit Man out there dropping some elbows and doing a body slam, and for the record, I think having him get eliminated by DQ was genius. His part in the match made him look tough almost dangerous, that should be his send off. He will never look cooler, it was done well. Call it day man, you've got nothing left to prove.

 

[WweBreezybre]

Look Bret has had his time in the ring I Admit him match at Summer slam proved he has at least 1 more match in him but you can probably say that about a ton of guys you fans and the Wwe itself need to let his wrestling career die and his legend live on.

 

[Rammsteinerteen]

It was better then wrestlemania 26, but only by 50%. I mean, the man can't make anymore technical match ups. He can`t go on the top turnbuckle and do his famous elbow drops. He can`t use flexibility during his ground game. The man was only in the tag match for 2 minutes and thats it. He should move on, even bret hart said that he didn`t want to look like an old timer. I agree, I loved Bret Hart, he was my favourate wrestler of all time. I was even Canadian, and went to all the shows in Toronto back in the 90s. But ever since his retirement, I only wanted him to confront or visit the wwe as guest host. I didn`t want his character to be ruined, not even as a gm. These kids will never understand him. So my answer to your question of putting back in the ring is
NO NO NO NO NO. THe man had one career ending concussion, he had 2 STROKES, he gained weight so WE DONT WANT TO SEE HIM IN ANY KIND OF PRO WRESTLING RING ATTIRE. The man should only be the best there was,the best there is and the best there ever will be. He has so much hart (pun intended) for giving his fans his last shot in the ring, but it`s time for him to go, and people will always call him a legend. He does not ever have to come back.

 

[Dre Guevara]

IMO, the only 2 people who know 4 sure about Bret's health concerns in the ring R Bret Hart & his doctor(s). as a fellow Hitman Mark, I'm glad 2 see him back in the WWE, however, like alot of U guys have stated, I don't think he should make it a full time deal, I'd like 2 see him in a managerial postion with the Hart Dynasty 4 the most part....& maybe one more match, that is if the WWE could find a way 2 bring Hogan back, because that's the ONLY guy I'd like 2 see Bret take on.