Breaking Point - World Heavyweight Champion CM Punk vs. Undertaker (Submission Match)

[JBK2008]

If for some reason Taker doesn't win at Breaking Point, he'll win it at the next ppv in a Hell In A Cell Match. Punk may get DQ'd or something, but he won't survive Hell In A Cell.

 

[Baller]

Punk I think will be getting some help at Breaking Point. Punk does have a good submission in the Anaconda Vice, and if he gets help from somebody I think they will let the Undertaker tap. Now the question is who will be this mystery man?

I personally hope it is Matt Hardy and he is just pretending to be a good guy. He can say he is straightedge and never understands his brother for being on drugs and what not. Matt Hardy could be a great enforcer. Then have Undertaker vs Matt Hardy vs CM Punk in a Hell in a Cell, at Hell in a Cell

 

[TheGreatSPAMbino]

Well at Breaking Point we see two main events, each of which has a wrestler challenging for the world title, a wrestler that has a reputation for never giving up. I am of course referring to John Cena and the Undertaker. So Cena and Undertaker obviously won't and should not lose clean, so either they win, or we see some sort of controversial finish. I don't think we will see two dirty finishes in the main events and likewise i don't think there will be two title wins. So i have made the conclusion that there will be one dirty finish and one title win. Of the two of them it makes more sense for Cena to win the wwe title because Punk's reign basically just started.

Alright.

So that means the dirty finish is in this match: Cm Punk vs. the Undertaker. Personally, i would love to see the following occur. The Undertaker locks in his stupid ass submission move on Punk in the middle of the ring. Punk doesn't tap out but instead passes out and the match ends. Since Punk did not technically submit he still retains the title. But much like the controversial finish in the Jeff Hardy match a couple months ago when he "accidentally" struck an official, people would suspect whether Punk "faked" passing out in order to cheaply (is that a word?) retain the title. I dunno, i think it's pretty cool and it accomplishes a number of things:
1. It preserves Undertaker's reputation of never giving up, but keeps the title on Punk.
2. Its a unique and interesting finish that plays up on Punk's past (similar tactics employed in Hardy match).
3. Punk isn't exactly resorting to cheating as it would be debated whether or not he was legitimately passed out or simply faking it to fool the moronic ref.
4. Punk vs. Undertaker literally has zero storyline to it and this gives it SOMETHING.



How's that for some fucking over analysis.

 

[2012isbs]

Think Punk'll retain at breaking point by a no contest i.e. Punks hits the GTS on Undertaker off the top turnbuckle then falls off the turnbuckle hitting his neck on the apron knocking him out. Or he locks in the anaconda vice and we have a screwjob think about it breaking point is in canada, and I think it's even in Montreal, so perfect oppurtunity for screwjob #2. Or taker locks in the devils gate and Punk taps out or passes out.

 

[Pain2422]

I dont See any one commin out to help Punk try to Beat Taker. thus Meaning Either taker wins Cleanly or Punk makes taker pass out cuz i dont see punk winnin cleanly

 

[Jonnie Walker]

I see Punk cheating to win here.Punk will bring a chair in the ring,the ref will tell him to stop,Punk turns around,ducks a big boot,and Taker hits the ref instead.Taker turns around to a really hard looking chair shot.He may or may not hit him with the GTS afterward,but nonetheless he hit him with a chair.And then a few more chair shots while Taker's is down.Punk locks on some hold,maybe the Anaconda Vice(the Vice he was about to start talking about last night before Matt interrupted him),the ref is back up again,Taker's passed out,so no one looks weak and we further the feud into Hell in a Cell.

 

[Sandman18]

I totally agree with Vince Russos above post as it covers all bases...hopefully creative does the right thing for this fued and JoMo and Ziggler also

 

[It's...Baylariat!]

To be honest, it wouldn't make sense to put the belt on Taker at this point. It would make more sense for Taker to chase Punk with a major payoff. Hell in a Cell's PPV is coming up soon. I would build to a great Hell in a Cell match with them two in it. Talk about a payoff to a feud that could be alright given some time to develop. CM Punk is the hottest thing on Smackdown right now. His heat is off the charts, his promos are spot on, and he's playing the heel perfectly. To kill that with losing to the first real opponent he has would be damaging. Taker wouldn't be hurt by the loss, but Punk would be. I say Punk finds a shortcut to win. Hopefully.

 

[Mantaur Rodeo Clown]

Me thinks they'll break out the old Wrestlemania 13 finish, with the anaconda vice locked in for a good minute, resulting in Undertaker passing out, and maybe disappearing from the ring afterwards. Makes CM Punk look deadly and Undertaker doesn't tap.

Because we can all agree CM Punk NEEDS this win. We all NEED so desperately for him to be a credible champion. Thats how good he is at the moment. God I hope he keeps the title, I don't care if he cheats, because he dearly needs the title no matter how he retains.

 

[8five]

That was a ridiculously comical ending wow i at no point saw that screwjob finish coming not even after the restart i thought punk would just win. Very few times do they actually do something legit surprising at no point did I see a Long heel turn coming and a sequel to the montreal screwjob, I guess they chanted you screwed Bret so much that WWE thought they needed to give them something else to say

 

[Cracka Jack]

Oh God, a screwjob ending. Something told me this would happen, and in this match too, but I didn't want to believe it. Hopefully this can lead to a Vince-sponsored Punk as Champion, just for the sake of some extra heat. I actually wouldn't hate that.

 

[TheChampionOfTheWorld]

I like it... No, I love it... Punk comes out the champion and probably one of the most hated men in the WWE, Taker gets a rematch, perfect! Just hopefully they let Punk keep the title for a while.

 

["Cool Guy" Jensen]

This completely pisses me off. I am such a huge Undertaker mark, and even though I wanted C.M. Punk to have a long title reign, I would have loved to see Undertaker win the title even more. HERE'S TO HOPING THE UNDERTAKER WINS THE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP AT HELL IN A CELL!!

 

[Deego]

I knew this was going to happen, I just knew it. I'd actually forgot the significance of tonight being in Montreal until the "You screwed Bret" chants started. As soon as that started I realised. In Montreal, submission matches. There was going to be a screwjob. Although, of course, I wasn't really saying this to myself seriously, was just a thought. I am quite stunned at this in all honesty.

 

[hArdyPUNKmArk]

Wow, just read the results. I wanted Punk to win but I didn't expect another screwjob in Montreal (kayfabe) but still. This was a pretty good way to get extra heat on Punk and also give Taker another match. Great ending, I really like it.

The match itself sounded pretty dull though, I'll have to wait until I can download it to comment on the actual match.

 

[wbuqed]

well that ending was somewhere out of FAR FAR FAR left field. Yes I'll give WWE credit, out of all the screwy dirty finishes I could consider them doing for this match it never dawned on me that they could pull off "Montreal Screwjob- Part Deux" Personally like another poster said I think its a great ending because it gives CM Punk a push as an ultimate heel. Yes we all pretty much know that the rematch comes at HIAC but still lets give the creative team their due cause I think they got it about as right as possible. Is it a 10/10? Probably not but then again I don't think it's possible for that given the characters.

 

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

I actually watched the match last night and noticed yet another continuity error within WWE booking. Now a couple of people have said that Taker didn't get DQ'd at WM because he was facing a Raw superstar, so brand specific rules didn't apply. That's fine, but what about when Taker beat Big Show in the LMS match at Cyber Sunday? Taker applied the Hell's Gate to incapacitate Show, who then couldn't answer the 10 count, so technically he won with the Hell's Gate right?

Sunday, Taker is in another gimmick match which is No DQ and then has the decision reversed because of what hold he used.

Why was he allowed to win one No DQ PPV match with the hold, but not the other? Especially when the 1st time round, Vickie was still the GM of SD and it was her rule.

Well the kayfabe answer would be, not only was Teddy working with the ref and Punk to screw Taker, he was also going to make the rules up as he went to screw Taker, in case Taker beat Punk before Punk could lock in a submission.

The non-kayfabe answer is that WWE Creative don't remember anything they booked 6 months prior to the current month.

 

[Deadman Disciple]

I actually watched the match last night and noticed yet another continuity error within WWE booking. Now a couple of people have said that Taker didn't get DQ'd at WM because he was facing a Raw superstar, so brand specific rules didn't apply. That's fine, but what about when Taker beat Big Show in the LMS match at Cyber Sunday? Taker applied the Hell's Gate to incapacitate Show, who then couldn't answer the 10 count, so technically he won with the Hell's Gate right?

Sunday, Taker is in another gimmick match which is No DQ and then has the decision reversed because of what hold he used.

Why was he allowed to win one No DQ PPV match with the hold, but not the other? Especially when the 1st time round, Vickie was still the GM of SD and it was her rule.

Well the kayfabe answer would be, not only was Teddy working with the ref and Punk to screw Taker, he was also going to make the rules up as he went to screw Taker, in case Taker beat Punk before Punk could lock in a submission.

The non-kayfabe answer is that WWE Creative don't remember anything they booked 6 months prior to the current month.

When Vickie brought back Taker in revenge on Edge, didnt Taker use the Hell's Gate to win and vickie didnt do anything to enforce the ban then.

Also why didnt Teddy Long cut Undertaker off in his promo last week on SD, when Taker said Punk would tap to Hell's Gate, by stating the move was "Banned"

Conveinient if ya ask me?

 

[jwhunt]

I'm also a huge Taker fan & I'm pissed too.

I'm happy that he's 17-0 at Mania. After watching all this screwjob saga happening with them bringing back up his submit move being banned - can you believe it, he should've been 16-1 at Mania.

In the middle of that Mania match HBK that Hell's Gate move was applied for a little bit. Taker should have been disqualified.